The hip fire activation exotic bows have always thrown me off due to having the muscle memory of freely transitioning between hipfire and ADS without a perk activation occuring.

Locking crafted exotic traits behind time gating should have died with the exotic mission rotator being put in the game. We stopped locking seasonal upgrades behind time gating. Leave the player retention to the weekly challenges, seasonal story, and people actually wanting to play seasonal activities, ritual playlists, and endgame stuff. When people want to play they will and when you actually FIX the core issues in the game more than your core fanbase will play constantly so the population won't be an issue anymore. More on topic yea the bow feels slow now but I like it. Can't wait to be able to use hatchling on it because the dungeon bow REFUSES TO GIVE ME MY FUNNY ROLL

@syu9572

6 ай бұрын

im fien with it on new exotics, but yeah i agree with the old exotics not having it anymore

@denilsonthomas

6 ай бұрын

Whats the funny roll? Offhand?

@Real28

6 ай бұрын

Y'all will complain about the silliest shit.

@scarletnoct5807

6 ай бұрын

I could care less about perks being locked, that's whatever but FUCKING BOWSTRINGS??? AT LEAST LET ME MAKE IT FEEL GOOD

@NomTheDom

6 ай бұрын

​@@Real28you're missing your brain stem don't muddy the gene pool please

I think the bow has a certain skill ceiling. Yeah it does feel quite slow and bad to use at times but it will only get better over time with strings etc, but I’ve gotten about 1000 kills with it and suspending thunder crashes is hilarious

I know titan isn't a great class for bows but the strand barricade suspend deals 31 damage and the bow deals 182 to the suspended target so you kill all resil levels with a single shot. This is kind of loop-able in 6v6 if you use the aeon gauntlets(sect of vigor) and the fragment that gives class ability energy when killing suspended targets.

@kyanmatena3948

6 ай бұрын

if you enjoy strand titan with this i can send a dim link with my build, pretty sure its as best as it can be

With foetracer you can one shot suspended people, don’t know if there’s a resil cap though

@ylerian8878

6 ай бұрын

It one hits all resilience levels

@mythe6669

6 ай бұрын

And it ohk on a body shot as well. Have been playing around with that and an orb build for utility kickstart. It's fun. The only trouble I have is the long drawtime and that when I try to hipfire the trap it doesn't always go off. Idk what I'm doing wrong with the hipfire.

I think once its fully crafted I'll like it more, but I still enjoy it now. With Foetracer it can also 1 shot any resilience after hitting them with the dive. (10 dmg from the dive which activates foetracer surge for a crit of 193) Ive missed so many kills by firing off my arrow a little too early with the current draw time though and not doing full damage. Honestly my biggest problem is the trap being on hip fire, it also doesnt do damage if you hit a target with the trap arrow. If the trap was on an alt fire instead it would be wayyy better imo.

The annoying thing with the gimmick is that, for one, the trap shot doesn't do damage so you essentially need to shoot 3 shots to kill someone. And two, if you want to one shot someone, you'd want to suspend them with a grenade instead of the trap. So your individual TTK utilizing the exotic part of the exotic is either slower than normal or requires a whole grenade

@Bloodhurl67

6 ай бұрын

I mean I sort of agree? Although it gives you another way to suspend without having to sacrifice a suspend

@NemSumeragi

6 ай бұрын

@@Bloodhurl67 yeah for sure. It just takes like, so long if you don't have things to kill. Like I'm imagining scenarios where some shit has gone wrong in a hard activity and now you're forced to play this slow ass game off running and hitting 6 shots for 1 stack. Alternatively they could just let you shoot the trap at 3 stacks for a weaker trap 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yooo that reload idea for alternate bow modes is such a great idea. Hope they take that

reload button is crucial on titan with a bow, sometimes the bow doesnt even auto reload after shooting arrow on any bow especially if you are sprinting. a bug since forsaken and they still havent fixed it.

@RequiemL34

6 ай бұрын

I don't see how this is specific on titan, yet the exotic interactions are holding the button, not pressing; so you would still keep your normal reload like nothing changed .

@zipper125snowputty

6 ай бұрын

Thats because you cant sprint and reload at the same time

@OmegaDerrick

6 ай бұрын

@@zipper125snowputty only tends to happen on titan. Never had it happen on warlock or hunter. Would also happen standing still or strafing.

merry Christmas hynra

Is there any reason why you aren't using a swash biting winds for your strand build?

Its a nice bow to "play around with" and then throw it into the abyss. Either way im happy they added another exotic bow (thats craftable to some extent aswell) 💪

seems like it has potential

Bungie made charged and uncharged melee binds a thing. I think it’s time they do the same for bows with alternate fire modes. I’m constantly wasting Verglas perk as well by hip firing. Or make it so you have to alternate firing mode like loading x4 izzy shots or something.

@Real28

6 ай бұрын

Thing with this and Verglas is that if you happen to just let go of the ADS 1ms before you pull your shot, it counts as hip fire. It would be more complicated but they need to engineer some kind of buffer. Like a 5-10ms delay on when you release ads, till when it counts as ads. I'm sure you could do a ton of testing and find a nice e sweet spot that would eliminate 90% of the false shots.

Updated strand hunter build, need that

Seems more like a PvE weapon, I can see myself running it on an Abeyant Leap Titan when I'm constantly Suspending things so I'd be getting the increased damage and drawtime pretty much at all times, with the trap being yet another source of Suspend if my Shackle and Barricade are both on CD. And I definitely agree that the bow altfires should be a "hold reload" to activate them so you have more control on when you use them.

Love u hynra

How do you feel about bows in checkmate? Can you still use them the same way? Ik rn they’re getting hated on a lot more, but I’ve only seen passive wishender and le monarques

@Revadike

6 ай бұрын

You can use them normally, just hit your headshots

@thechunkmaster8794

6 ай бұрын

Ticuu’s Divination is great in Checkmate. Hip fire to mark enemies and then headshot to instakill them. I got a WROM yesterday by using this method.

@mythe6669

6 ай бұрын

Yep, Ticuus is a lot of fun. Gave some people bunching up in a well a nasty surprise with the sacred flames 😈

Does it one tap woth surges?

I've been using it on strand warlock, I love this bow. But 684 is just too slow in today's bow meta, you'll always get outclassed by something faster.

If you go full suspend build then this is pretty good but mostly a PvE weapon

Hynra should use the diddler.... fel tarradiddle is just too slept on and hynra could go crazy and diddle lobbies with it XD

One thing i didn't hear you mention, shooting at suspended targets always scores a crit, even on bodyshot, doesn't contribute to the perk tho

@HynraCanFly

6 ай бұрын

its not a crit despite displaying yellow numbers, if that's what you're after

@Edski10

6 ай бұрын

@@HynraCanFly It brings up the damage to a crit is what i meant, yes

Are you with a cold?

cannot stand the hip fire activated perks

TLDR: bows not meta in pvp. It is good in countdown however for locking down bomb site after planting

R u Indonesia?

The key is foetracer for those 1-shot kills.

Foetracer cough, cough

At this point we need a PvP bow tier list from you

this type of lobby is so not fun to play, i wish can be skill yet not tryhards