I see LN2 in Ian's future... It's generally easy to find at welding gas supply houses etc, and you can often bring your own Dewar or rent various sizes, so you can get just enough for the testing, plus all the cool things you can do with it with your kids! Look up some Fun with Liquid Nitrogen videos on YT and see what the possibilities are. I was also impressed with the bee handling confidence and gentleness of the Mad Scientist, and his general knowledge and skills. The fact both of you ended up in Armour tells me the girls must have gotten quite unhappy lol

@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog

3 жыл бұрын

No, the bees were good, I always wear a suit and because Derek was handling a -200 degree Celsius liquid, he decided not to encourage any distractions lol

Yay shout out to Marla she taught me beekeeping here in MN! We’re lucky to have her!

Ian, you can use a cardboard cut-cut rombus for 100 cells placed on the comb and pin-prick the cells. I used it in the selection of drone and queen breeders, its just another indicator method amongst many, we all have to use now.

@patrickwalther1074

3 жыл бұрын

@@sinisterhipp0 and very fast! ;-)

I had this done with my bees last year. It sure feels good to know you are breeding with the best of your stock.

What a cool test. I will definitely wait and watch for the results. I'm a new bee keeper and I'm learning as much as I can't I've always loved honey bees and want to make a difference.

Very well done video, lots of detail. Thanks!

That was awesome. I can’t wait to see you our results

Super cool. Looking forward to you sharing the results with us

Nice to finally see some testing. I started off with Saskatraz stock and they were very hygienic with many near %100 removal results. Now I selecting for low mites. Had one colony recently that had 0 mites in a sugar shake, 0 mites in worker brood, and 0 mites in drone brood. This coming out of 2 winters without treatments. I will be grafting from her this Sunday. Meanwhile I find hives not doing so well. I can remove the drones (and most of the mites), and not allow that hive to reproduce.

Yes Ian your friend Brad at Faith Apiary posted that he had the same procedure done a few days ago on which you commented. Great information and very interesting stuff! Looking forward to your results 👍👍

Next level!!! This is incredibly cool!

Ian with my 4 colonies this is way beyond me.But I love watching you're videos keep keep up the great job and love your sense of humor about Derick the mad scientist.

Wow how cool. Can't wait to watch and learn. Peace from WV USA

In german we just pic the cells with needles assembled to an stamp like thing, same effect without external and expensive help...

@stefanm.7649

3 жыл бұрын

Great. Unfortunately, not everyone can get liquid nitrogen so easily. Still a great way to do a hygiene test. I don't want to advertise and I don't get paid for it. Maybe interesting for one or the other. The site is in German but you can get a PIN tester here. Just check it out. pin-test.com/shop/ Greetings from Germany to the bees family / community. Bee Happy

@researcherAmateur

3 жыл бұрын

We use that test in our operacion.. and i think it's much better for finding varroa sencitive bees. One pin hole in every cell.. in a romb formation on the frame. Doesn't kill the brood the way ice does.. It's an imitation of varroa in the cells and diferent brood pheromone because of it.

@researcherAmateur

3 жыл бұрын

@@stefanm.7649 thanks. I wrote my at the seme time. But your explains it. I think it's a better test

@villainousssb533

3 жыл бұрын

Yes fair enough. But you miss the point. The idea is to find an excuse to play around with liquid nitrogen. It’s all about the joy of being a big kid at heart.

@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog

3 жыл бұрын

LOL finding an excuse to use liquid nitrogen ha ha indeed

Cant wait to see the results

Thanks for the knowledge! You should try the BeeScanning app for detection, find the varroa mites with your camera and AI! Works great!

@abdelatifzaim2332

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing the app

LMAO, when you said you'd ask the technician when he gets here I truly believed you meant when you put on your technician hat!

ما نوع الاختبار والاختبار لمن ؟؟

Heartless people 😱😱😱 i wonder how do those baby bees feel

Interesting, I have seen that done before on hives. Hygin BEEs i do not see a problem or havnt with mine. They seem to keep the hives cleaner then most do their own houses.

I love learning like this. Keep up the great work. I can see this video is older but how are the girls doing now and have you changed anything since this test?

You could do this yourself, Ian. In Canada, Home Depot, or a plumbers merchant will stock Artic Pipe Freezing Spray. (I'm in the UK) It comes in a can with a straw nozzle. Put a small hole in the lid, put the lid on the comb, and spray enough to freeze. It will cost you pennies, and you can do it in the field yourself. 👍

@blackdoghoneybees

3 жыл бұрын

@@sinisterhipp0 It's used in plumbing applications and sold without any warnings or concerns. It's safe to use, with obvious care.

@MinnesotaBeekeeper

3 жыл бұрын

I had to look up Tetrafluoroethane. Wiki-For its medical uses, 1,1,1,2-tetrafluoroethane has the generic name norflurane. It is used as propellant for some metered dose inhalers. Very interesting.

Can you make more videos about this method please

👍 good test

So many cool things can bee done with liquid nitrogen

@CastleHives

3 жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same thing.

@MinnesotaBeekeeper

3 жыл бұрын

Making ice moonshine?

😂😂😂 now I saw almost everything. Hmmm... how do we do that testing for hygienic behavior? Simple, cost-effective and precise! We use drone comb, basically empty frame for bees to build drone cells and queen lay drone eggs in it. When bees close comb (and varoa in it), we pull out frame, shake bees, and put frame in fridge for 24h. Then we return it into the hive and mesure time and percentage, needed for bees to detect dead combs, open them and clean them. Winers are those colonies with 100% in less of 12h, and The Stars are those who needed only 6-7h. Game over. 😁😁😁 Keep It Simple S.... 😉

Very interesting Ian. . My Queen rearing this year is on hold, next year hopefully I will graft. Breeding the more hygienic stock makes perfect sense. How often do you test your breeder stock, once per season or does it vary?

@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll have it done on my Breeder stock once per year on my selected breeders. l want to keep choosing hygienic as one of my selection criteria

Interesting thank you 🐝🐝🐝🐝

Is there a do it yourself hygenic test that can be done without using Liquid Nitrogen?

If you want to do is in future Ian Co2 also works the Co2 can also used to kill the bees that is inline with ethical treatment practices

1. Freezing brood for a hygeniec test goes way back farther than Marla.. 2. We did over 290 freeze tests this year on our own hives looking to find the most Hygeinic bees for breeders. At about year 15 of doing so hard core. Ended up with over 12 gigs of Data. We Invested over 300 man hours into the whole process. Not cheap but the queens we've been kicking out are pretty sweet.

@yacinesadam7670

3 жыл бұрын

Nice job

@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely following in yours and others footsteps. One step closer to more hygienic stock !

@MinnesotaBeekeeper

3 жыл бұрын

Not shit? When did you start freeze testing? Come to think of it Dr. Sivaks U of M propolis study was a follow up from one done several years earlier, forget who did it. What made you think to do such a test? Did you publish your data?

@wishicouldspel

3 жыл бұрын

@@MinnesotaBeekeeper Google.... Rothenbuhler, 1964

These are iropa bees or another?

so cool

Ian: This is completely cool. (All puns intended). So what percentage would be considered VSH?

@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog

3 жыл бұрын

VSH is a separate test, but they do claim relationship

@unclebobsbees4899

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Hi Ian, I don`t understand why the age of the pupae makes a difference? Pat

@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog

3 жыл бұрын

Good question It has something to do with pupae odours

Is there anyway this kind of test could be utilzed to determine weather a teenage will keep their room clean?

@drewt3210

3 жыл бұрын

As an "expert" father of two girls, I feel confident telling you they will not keep their room clean...despite having the best genes, of course!

Amigo podrías poner subtítulos a tus vídeos ? Saludos!

Con una aguja cuesta menos, no te compliques

Hello, my problem is that I understand French more verbally than English. This is how to kill a butterfly or a Varro

You do not need two ' testing areas ' in one frames. One is enough. You are practically destroying a very consistent amount of brood in the frame. Second you do not need to use so much nitrogen, IT IS TOO MUCH. A simple 'tee spoon' of liquid nitrogen in one area,, is more than enough to kill the larvae's. You can do these tests in a smaller scale and the result is as reliable as the result of your method.

That was freaking cool!!!! Of course liquid nitrogen is. Lol!

Does the brood die out on the opposite side to?

@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog

3 жыл бұрын

Actually no

Is there a relation between hygienic behaviour and number of brood frames (number of bees)?

@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure I understand

@zarkobojanic2141

3 жыл бұрын

Hive with 20.000bees will clean it faster than hive with 15.000.

@sleepyowl910

3 жыл бұрын

The same concern here... There has to be several factors contributing to how fast the bees engage in hygienic activity. Size of the colony, queen health, forage availability, worker age distribution, mite infestation level, where they are in their seasonal cycle, brood nest size, where the frames are in the brood nest, age of the frozen brood -- to name just a few to scratch a surface. Not really informative without appreciating all the variables.

@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog

3 жыл бұрын

Everything is on an even playing field. All variable are about as controlled as they can be

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“This is cool” Liquid nitrogen, of course it’s cool, downright freezing

Super! I want 100% cell cleaning result )))

@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog

3 жыл бұрын

Ha! We will see

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Ne amaçla yapıyorsunuz

do you know chestnut honey.I have some chestnut honey.i want to sell to canada.can i do.Can the canadians buy

Did you pay to have this done?

@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog

3 жыл бұрын

A fee

@towerjokey

3 жыл бұрын

Please show us the out come thanks.@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog

СенцОв , переведи 😎

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Парни кто-нибудь Переведите что это за хрень что они делают

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жалко пчелок:')

Что никто по-русски не может объяснить что там происходит Ладно я савок древний старый уже, но вы же современные про американизированные, или у вас по eгэ нету иностранного языка в обучении

если будут субтитры на русском или на украинском т подписчиков будет 600тысяч. отож

@grisha8084

3 жыл бұрын

Согласен, Илюха переводит, но не все видео.тут и так всемпонятно.через сутки считают сколько вскрыли и выкинули.Если 97-100% то nice )))можно брать личинки на размножение!

@user-zq9ud9wb2h

3 жыл бұрын

@@grisha8084 если 100% мне не понятен тест для чего их кипятком

@grisha8084

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-zq9ud9wb2h это азот, он замораживает расплод, и пчела понимает, что в кружке расплод мертвый, они вскрывают крышечки и выкидывают.если через сутки вычестят все.будет 100%.супер гигиена.значит и клеща сможет РАСПОЗНОВАТЬ, в закрытом расплоде и вскрывать его и выкидывать.тем самым борется семья с клещем!а мы берем у таких личинки и размножаем такие семьи!

@user-zq9ud9wb2h

3 жыл бұрын

@@grisha8084 дякую я пчелами более 30лет занимаюсь об азоте первый раз узнал

@fedan6496

3 жыл бұрын

@@grisha8084 Спасибо

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I'd say first but I hate to be lame.

These millenials drive me nuts with their emphasis on the last sylaBBELS. It's like backwards speech. "In 24 hours I'll come back and pull THOSE FRAMES..." I'll never understand where this pattern developed. Oh well, neat process on the brood check.

It all sounds like a waste of life for the sake of overzealous geeks.