Hay that is exactly what they said in the mid 60s

Thank you from 'H2 Innovation Lab' H2IL - technology for a green sustainable hydrogen future.

I'm interested in seeing the utility monopolies having their grip on our necks broken, I live in NY state where electricity is more expensive than most, if not the rest, of America.

i always find these videos interesting - touting hydrogen as the new smarter alternative. The worst part is they never tell me why i should not use the energy to charge some kind of batteries rather than go through first making hydrogen, then storing and filling and then use it back to create electricity in a fuel cell. This seems nuts to me. I feel better will be to invent some new battery technology.

@SystemsPlanet

7 жыл бұрын

Saptaswa Charan Rakshit. Batteries eventually wear our and have a hidden future disposal-fee attached to them.

@chrismuir8403

6 жыл бұрын

Fuel cells wear out as well, do they have a "hidden future disposal fee" too? Well, no, but neither do batteries. Both can be recycled and the valuable elements reused.

@jaishetty8586

6 жыл бұрын

plant solar panels, electrolyse water to get hydrogen in your backyard. 1KG / day = 1 gallon of gasoline.

@jaishetty8586

6 жыл бұрын

better still, make the roads electrically conductive. the tires can pick up the voltage, and zoom along.

6 жыл бұрын

Palladium will store 900 times its own volume in hydrogen. This material is called palladium hydride, and it is an alloy of hydrogen and palladium metal. This means you can use it for hydrogen storage. That then means that you can store energy.

The greenhouse gas ( CO2 ) otherwise known as Plant Food. By all means put time and effort into finding renewable energy sources but we are wasting time right now by NOT building Nuclear power plants.

then we will have to improve methods of electrolysis then, if thats the case.

Does it work in below zero , and what would the effects be if everyone switched to hydrogen. I'm curious what the effects would be. Is it possible it'll rain more or effect the weather.

@98898685894

6 жыл бұрын

Wei Zhao you're probably right, but still curious to see the possible effects.

@taiwoolaleye6333

5 жыл бұрын

if you get in a car crash, the amount of energy that will explode by the smallest of sparks or linkage could be devastating

I want Research in this project.

4:38 let me guess , i also think it would be uv!!

Super explain about hydrogen gas, we will make hydrogen from sea water, we have more water in our earth 70 percentage of sea water covered our earth We need more water for more hydrogen, we will get from sea water I have idea about hydrogen stove using electrolysis method

Why use all the energy etc to make synthetic gas, when the Hydrogen used to make it can be used directly?.

@Mr.Man.Q.x

4 жыл бұрын

Because storing hydrogen is the smallest molecule and needs extremly low temperatures or high pressures to be stored. If you calculate this energy it becomes inefficient. So its better to integrate it in a more stabil molecule structure like methanol or other sythetic gases.

You should also mention the cleanest fuel , which is also much safer and more convenient ,H202

They need fresh minds to oaur each scientist with, so that they can teach on the job to stimulate their insight and hopefully inspire eureka.

I feel this is ridiculous to pursue for transportation vehicles. After driving an electric car for some time I would never consider anything built in the style of an internal combustion engine. You still have all the oil changes all the wear and tear and maintenance cost as a standard gasoline engine. This energy and time should be spent developing better and safer batteries and not wasted on a dead end transportation model such as this

It may has high amount of energy density then petrol but has less amount volume then petrol.

C. butyricum could do it. Doesnt it produce hydrogen sulphides?

whay it i dont understand

I have faith in humanity! Come on world!!!

@dougiequick1

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously? LOL

Petrol can be stored and transported in 'bean can', the technology for safe storage and transport of hydrogen has to make a huge leap. Battery technology/hydrogen technology, who know which will win!

All the stars run on H, even our sun, a universe gas station, it is.

I guess this video's future projection didn't take into account the current pandemic!

a recyclable hydrocarbon gas and a closed-loop cycle gas engine/

Sunshine is the biggest energy on earth❓ What do you know about scalar waves❗️ What is light❓

Will should continue using crude oil

@dougiequick1

4 жыл бұрын

Crude thinking

OK the convert power to gas. Hydrogen? Then put it in a natural gas pipe network. But the appliances in homes do not burn hydrogen. Did I miss something?

I see no difference between a car battery and a car radiator in this system and its purpose is to regulate the car combustion system. Can anyone tell me why this isn't any different.

@chrismuir8403

6 жыл бұрын

Batteries and radiators do not "regulate the car combustion system", that is done by engine controls, fuel injectors, ignition system, and catalytic converter. Radiators simply expel waste heat to prevent overheating. Batteries store electrical energy until needed, such as engine starting or running security systems when the engine is off. Battery electric cars have NO COMBUSTION, thus no "combustion system" to regulate.

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Why the Swedish place absharkh so, hydrogen cylinder to provide gas to citizens by 40%

Electrolysis may take a relatively lot of energy, but the gains makes it preferable to making Hydrogen from fossil fuels. We already have a country and a Scottish Island that uses excess renewable energy to split water to use the Hydrogen in HFC that they also use the heat from. Making it a Combined Heat and Power Fuel Cell ( CHP-HFC). Anyway you say Steam reformation of Fossil Fuel is more efficient, but I bet the energy and resources to get the gas isn’t factored in! At least with Electrolysis it is all made and used locally!.

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Hmm. Nuclear reactors blow up when the Zirconium encasing the fuel rods heats up and produces large amounts of Hydrogen. Anybody see a connection here?

@chrismuir8403

6 жыл бұрын

Simple. Under the right conditions, most metals will react with water to produce a metal oxide and hydrogen. In most cases, that means high temperatures, or use of corrosive chemicals to break through the oxide film that normally protects the metal from water. BTW, iron reacts with water to form iron oxide (rust) and hydrogen, but it is a very slow process.

@dougiequick1

4 жыл бұрын

@ Simple as mass producing old Delorian cars and flux capacitora so that everyone simply drives either into the future or the past where either way today's problems do not exist .....duhh and BTW entirely financed by simply importing thousands of hoverboards from the future which absoulely will sell like hotcakes in present time continum! ....duhh! rich people will pay pretty much anything for their kids to have the same or better toys than the other neighborhood rich kids...do I have to do ALL the heavy lifting brain work around here? Gets old ya know

hydrogen may be used to produce electricity instead of fossil fuel, to generate electricity for cities.

@richardclark6113

6 жыл бұрын

Iron Hand Umm no!!! Lol You need energy to make Hydrogen in the first place. The second law of thermodynamics says that making hydrogen results in a net loss of energy. This is because of heat, sound and the energy required for Electrolysis. This is it basically: 100% solar energy = Smaller amount of Hydrogen = Smaller amount of energy afterwards. You might as well skip the step and just use solar energy and batteries.

6 жыл бұрын

RX doesn't understand hydrogen. He doesn't understand that directly using the energy doesn't allow you to store the energy. RX wants your batteries to continuously be charged and hold that charge in that shape. He doesn't think about that. Hydrogen is there as an intermediate, as feedstock for chemical operations. Lots of things require hydrogenation, and theoretically you could make fossil fuels by building them from carbon and hydrogen. These are your "batteries" chemically, and you can use them for something else than just things powered by electricity.

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Advances in battery technology will make this obsolete before it even hits the market.

@jaishetty8586

6 жыл бұрын

Battery technology has hit a roadblock . it ain't going much further for a long long time .

Fact... The world is greener with CO2

@richardclark6113

6 жыл бұрын

Not if we take down tree’s to burn.

Not true anymore Solar Hydrogen Trends is the cheapest and most effective way to make unlimited hydrogen on-demand with low energy input, solar works fine

bottled cow farts are our only solution. just admit it

@blackturbine

5 жыл бұрын

*Eats beans* *phone ringing* Hi Elon I found a way to turn humans into rocket engines You can send money through VISA

@dougiequick1

4 жыл бұрын

THAT idea STINKS! Just a SHIT idea! Admit THAT

Hydrogen is using the logic of combustion engines. Hydrogen can get better range than battery vehicles BUT it’s more expensive, requires more storage, requires more energy and it’s practicality is being slowly eradicated by Tesla powered batteries which are solar powered, efficient and cheap. The solution for Tesla lorries and trains is more frequent charging stations. Seeing as how Solar seems to be the favourite solution. Solar systems will have a large surface area meaning lots of potential charging stations everywhere. Tesla can input Mega chargers and Super chargers with solar panels next to them. This therefore makes Batteries the winning technology. Batteries and solar has the shortest A to B from energy source to energy output. Hydrogen may be useful for rockets or long distance flights. This is perhaps the future for hydrogen.

Good grief you make Hydrogen which is perfect for HFC, but want to mess with it wasting more energy/resources and add Carbon. Forget it just make Electrolysis more efficient. The late Stanley Myers achieved amazing success with Electrolysis, well worth checking him out on yt!. He’s got Patents for his work and had the interest of the military.

@henryjanicky4978

3 жыл бұрын

Stamly Meyer's achieve what's we try to do today. As long as we split water into hydrogen and no carbon full then my biggest compliment.

@n.g.s1mple29

3 жыл бұрын

You have no idea what your talking about do you ? Hydrogen is hard to store for long periods so it is easier to convert right now

The problem with your solar energy is, solar is only part time / overcast days and night time, answer? back up with natural gas.

Pilipino first inventor water fuel running car using hydrogen claims other country because Philippine government no attention for hydrogen fuel .

@chrismuir8403

6 жыл бұрын

Um, no, that "water car" scam predates that Filipino dude by several decades. And it is a scam, as it always takes several times more energy to extract hydrogen from water than one could ever get by burning that hydrogen in an engine. The so-called "water cars" are actually fueled by a cleverly concealed fuel tank, not the cheerfully bubbling hydrogen generator.

6 жыл бұрын

Chris thinks every water-powered car is fueled by hidden fuel tanks.

Stop misleading people and then finally leveling with them after you got them hooked by using the misconceptions, and half truths. Hydrogen is an energy storage and transfer system and not a primary form of energy.

"KISS" method: "Keep It Simple, Stupids"!!!

Huge elephant in the room? The.great big super explosive hydrogen tanks installed all over the future world? No matter how safely engineered for normal use would they not also become lucrative targets of opportunity for terrorists? ...no? Well placed small explosive charges near tanks especially ones located in high traffic/high density areas? BIG bang for small bomb netting many dead people not to mention potentially massive infrastructure damage in some key locations?....Even MORE stuff that must be heavily guarded 24/7/365?? ....Seems like a big duhh...no? Hope that is being considered along with other issues?

This going wastes tons of naturale clean water

@SystemsPlanet

7 жыл бұрын

Ernesto Ruiz Hydrogen produces water when used as fuel.

@blu7855

7 жыл бұрын

we can always use sea water too you know, we have a whole bunch of it lying around

@richardclark6113

6 жыл бұрын

Sea water isn’t a solution. 1) Setting up at sea is difficult. 2) You have tides to contend with. 3) Sea Water is full of stuff which would first have to be filtered. 4) The salt from the reaction would have to be taken away. 5) This is very costly. Now compare this to Solar and Batteries. 1) Set up solar panel. 2) Energy goes into battery and point of use. 3) Energy gets used or saved for later. You can see why Battery tech is superior. Once Batteries routinely go 1000 miles per charge. This will kill the other renewables. FYI - Batteries don’t even have to improve to get to 1000 miles of range. This could even be a breakthrough with carbon nano tubes or other materials which reduce the weight of vehicles thus increasing the range. Hydrogen is only good for long range flights and rockets. That’s it in my opinion.

6 жыл бұрын

R X is totally biased. 1. Setting up at sea is not difficult. 2. Tides don't matter with proper plumbing. 3. Not different from anything else that uses seawater. 4. Irradiate with UV and sell as cheap hydrochloric acid. 5. It's less or as costly as other ways to deal with energy, and you're implying making tons of batteries isn't expensive and wasteful? mate you're missing the point of hydrogen the point of hydrogen is to be able to replace shitty battery technology by storing the energy chemically. technically hydrogen technology IS battery technology, but you wanna be all 1 sided and think your side is better.

From the very first line, this video is BS. Hydrogen is not a source of energy. It is irrelevant how much of it there is, or how much of it is in each of us. We have no hydrogen reserves--nothing, zero, nadda, zip, big goose egg. To use hydrogen, we have to first manufacture it, which requires energy from another source. And currently, most hydrogen used is made from natural gas, so it isn't even a path off of fossil fuels. As an energy carrier, i.e., energy storage, it has value, such as for airplanes, because of its exceptional energy to weight ratio. However, for everything else that we do every day, hydrogen is a boondoggle and a scam.

@UnidentifiedAerialPhenomena0

7 жыл бұрын

you didnt listen to the hole video dude

@theevermind

7 жыл бұрын

You sure? 6:55 Photosynthesis is around 8% efficient. Mass-produced PV solar panels are already over 20% efficient and research panels over 30%. 7:50 These guys' efficiency is now at 1% but they hope to get to 10% or 20%, which is still worse than already existing PV panels. Furthermore, there is the inefficiency of converting H2 back into useful work. Putting it in an engine extract only ~33% of the stored energy while commercially available fuel cells are ~40%. NASA's fuel cells are near 50%. Compare that to having access to nearly all of the electricity produced by a PV panel. In other words: capture 20% of sunlight (at best & at some magical time in the future) * 40% for losses converting the H2 back to usable work * 85% (est) due to losses from pumping / leakage / etc. = 6.8% of the sun's energy at best. Compare that to 22% of sunlight (as already exists on the market today, ignoring any future improvements) * 93% for losses in electrical systems & batteries * 100% because electricity is already in the form you use to generate work = 20% of the sun's energy, or 3x what they could possibly get out of their process. That sounds like a boondoggle & scam to me. 9:25 Liquid hydrogen?! That popped up out of nowhere. Liquid hydrogen is barely above absolute zero and is difficult to create as it cannot be formed by simply compressing the gas from room temperature. You must first create other liquid gases, like liquid nitrogen or oxygen to get it cold enough to then compress into a liquid. Even mentioning it as a possibility for replacing existing fuels is BS. 9:30 It tends to "evaporate"? Hahahaha, that's called boiling, and it happens at -250 deg C, so yeah, you got more issues than just keeping it under pressure. 9:38 Synthetic gas or 'syngas' is not viable as it has all the problems of hydrogen, because it's really just hydrogen with impurities. "Same easy handling" as natural gas or crude? OK, those two things aren't handled in any way similarly. Syngas is a gas, so it can't be compared to a liquid like crude. Furthermore, consisting of mainly hydrogen, it has the same handling issues such as leakage and embrittlement that natural gas does not. 10:00 yep, still energy intensive (high cost), so it's not exactly a viable replacement (note they say "a catalyst *could* change this" which means it doesn't change the high energy consumption needed to make the fuel.) 10:30 They want to convert CO2 into CO, never mind CO causes smog & poisons people. Smog has been linked to asthma & cancer. But his explanation is pointless since it's the same as before--take solar power and use it (inefficiently) to create chemical energy. The video just tacks on the "use it with hydrogen" at the end as a throw away comment. Again, making hydrogen is wasteful, AND we need to waste more solar power to to make the CO for syngas, too? How bad of a system can they design? 11:20 "When this theory becomes reality" it will still be an inferior energy system than current solar technology. Go back to that 3x inefficiency factor. If it's unreasonable to put up enough solar panels to provide all our power, how reasonable is it to put up 3x (minimum) as many solar devices to make this fuel, not to mention the additional infrastructure for capturing, storing, transporting the gas? How will that be cheaper than adding to the already built electricity infrastructure that solar simply plugs into? How will syngas be more universal than electricity? (We don't have fuel cells, and engines have to be converted to run on hydrogen. But just about everything already runs on electricity.) How will it be more "environmentally sound" than solar, which again, takes one-third (or less) as much sunlight to produce the same results? 11:28 If we used syngas to power our cars, yes, it creates a closed loop, but so does solar, and syngas/hydrogen takes 3x (at least) much sunlight to power those cars. From a Toyota fuel cell car review, I calculated hydrogen cost per mi to be ~$0.28/mi. An equivalent gasoline car is ~$0.10/mi. A battery electric car is ~$0.04/mi. Hydrogen stations cost several million dollars to build. Electric charging stations already exist in nearly every garage (they're called "outlets") but a charging stations like Tesla's only cost a few thousand, i.e., the real estate is more expensive than all the charging equipment and their installation. 12:10 "The team is highly motivated." Good, because physics cares about you being "hyper-motivated" and how much time you spend together. This segment is pure filler because the video producer doesn't have enough real content to include. 13:47 Again, hydrogen still won't be our energy supply. It is merely an energy storage medium and is inferior to batteries in performance and cost. Even as hydrogen comes down in cost, so will batteries. Hydrogen will always trail. 14:07 The toy is too expensive; cars are too expensive; the fuel is too expensive, but the technology would be suitable for daily use? Only in Bizarroland. 14:50 That would be an electric "motor," not engine. 15:45 "In principle" it's more efficient than an ICE, as consumer fuel cells are ~40% efficient compared to ICEs at ~33%. (For comparison, batteries are over 90%.) Hydrogen has a high energy density (1 kg H2 = 1 gal gasoline), so it seems like it's doing really well, but per the thermodynamics, it's not that big of an improvement unless it's in a plane, drone, or other flying machine where performance is highly dependent on the weight of the fuel. Efficiency of comparable vehicles are: gasoline ICE ~30 mpg, FC: ~60 mpge, battery EV: ~100 mpg. 17:00 Hydrogen will not take off in 2025. Car makers will meet "zero emissions" through battery EVs with hydrogen being a small outlier. The price of hydrogen fuel cell cars will still be too high, there will still be too few hydrogen stations, the cost of the fuel itself will still be too high, and any hydrogen sold at those stations will come from natural gas which does nothing to reduce total CO2 emissions, i.e., boondoggle. 17:30 "costs are competitive" - Perhaps in the EU if they strip all taxes off hydrogen they can get to parity if they use natural gas as the source, but then they lose all their tax revenue and they don't reduce CO2 emissions. In the US, hydrogen still costs 3x as much as gasoline per mile based on current real-world cost data--and that's again with natural gas (and its CO2) as the feedstock for hydrogen. Frankly, I think the guy is lying. 18:06 FCs are not starting "mass production." They are still a tiny, boutique segment, and they still cost double of a comparable battery EV. Even with tech improvement & volume manufacturing efficiencies, batteries will still be cheaper. Hydrogen will never catch up. 18:38 "But there must be a greener way for this energy source to conquer the near future" Again, not a source, and the greener way is to not pursue it. Again, combining existing electricity with hydrogen throws in the garbage the majority of the electricity you just generated. Combining wind/solar/etc. with hydrogen means you have to build 3x+ as many wind turbines, solar panels, etc., to get the exact same usable energy. That's a stupid-ass failure, not a smart solution. 19:19 Yes, excess wind power can be used to make hydrogen, but that requires all the costs of making fuel cells. You can get better total cycle efficiency with pumped hydro and compressed air, and to reclaim the stored energy, all you need is a turbine. Yeah, let's use hydrogen because it has lower total-cycle efficiency and higher cost! Investors will love it! 19:59 The video doesn't even bother to explain whether what she's talking about is wholly re-purposing the natural gas infrastructure to be for hydrogen. But regardless, sealing hydrogen and hydrogen embrittlement are a different than what natural gas equipment is designed for. It's the same reason you can't re-purpose oil pipelines for ethanol. This conversion probably would work, but it won't be as simple/direct as implied. 21:04 Yeah, you were probably laughed out of the room because it was a lousy idea. Note how the video doesn't even bother to explain what "power to gas" means. The video even says it has an "expensive setup." Sure, it will get cheaper, but will it get as cheap as electricity? Doubt it. 23:15 "Hydrogen is the future" It's always been the future, it will always be the future. It will never be the present. The rest of the video is just the sales pitch. I'll give them planes, but no significant portion of the rest of our transportation needs will involve hydrogen. This video is a "hole." It's all vaporware.

@alirezafallahi1577

7 жыл бұрын

wooow .what a long description !!!!! what's your idea about biohydrogen ???? I mean producing hydrogen (e.g.) from dark fermentation or .....

@theevermind

7 жыл бұрын

Alireza Fallahi"what's your idea about biohydrogen" - In general, using waste to produce fuel, such as non-food grade grains to make ethanol, using garbage to make methane, waste food products to make biodiesel, etc., are worthwhile. The source material exists anyway, and often the process of making the fuel does, too. You have to pay to dispose of the waste, so why not spend that money to turn it into something valuable? But biofuels aren't just converting waste to fuel. Growing something, like corn, to make fuel is usually a bad idea. (I do think algae will work since it grows so much faster and requires much less energy input.) If we have to farm, plant, fertilize, exterminate pests, cultivate, harvest, etc., a crop to make hydrogen, I don't think it's worthwhile. Another problem is where to use the biohydrogen? A hydrogen economy is not practical. I don't want to devote resources to make something that's not worth using. If we have a bio-source, I'd rather use it to make natural gas.

@alirezafallahi1577

7 жыл бұрын

you' r right....these days hydrogen-economy area doesn't seems well. honestly I wanna do research about producing biofuel such as biogas, biohydrogen , etc from anaerobic digestion ( fermentation) & I'm really confused which one is more practical. Is it logical ,first, produce biogas & then by cracking process produce biohydrogen????

Hydrogen is so stupid for storage. Electrolysis first and then hydrogen after. Surely batteries beat this for efficiency.

@haydenarchambault2927

5 жыл бұрын

Lithium mine pollution.