I would love to see this test done again with the 180 ELD Match in your 7PRC builds.

I'm telling you guys, since finding this channel my reloading has stepped up a notch.

This is great stuff. Testing at the lower velocities is exactly what I wanted to see after the first video. I’d love to see more of the same type of videos with other rifle bullets. Maybe stick with the 6.5 for now to keep it consistent and comparable, but it would be interesting to see if there’s any difference in 30 cal.

Best comprehensive bullet test to date. Keep it up. Thank you

I’d definitely love to see the bullets passing through BONE before entering the gel. That would be quite interesting to see if y’all can work it up. Thanks for the videos!

This is your best video yet. Been watching a long time. Lots of good videos. But this type of stuff is very interesting, at least to me. Thanks

Interesting stuff. I only hunt with ELDMs and they've always killed really well.

@user-gl5vh9hk7n

2 ай бұрын

meat spoils a lot compared to ELD-X?

@rossauce12

2 ай бұрын

What the hell does that mean?

@boogiemangarage6345

Ай бұрын

What caliber are you shooting?

I was very surprised the EldM didn't expand more at 1800 fps. Very interesting. I like what you guys are doing. Keep up the good work

Very interesting test results. Thanks for doing the tests.

Great info and very well done video!! Looking forward to more of your testing.

I really like your methodology in testing and reporting. It would be interesting to see a comparisons of various bonded bullets and monolithic bullets. (Hammer vs Barnes) Round nose vs pointed SP from Hornady or Sierra would be cool too! Keep these videos coming!

@bryceanderson553

2 жыл бұрын

Monolithics please! Barnes vs the world, but specifically fan fav Hammer bullets.

@RichardCranium321

2 жыл бұрын

i love barnes & underwood has some nasty offerings too, got some max expansion 458 socom that look nasty, trying to plan a hog hunt now...

@chrisp556

2 жыл бұрын

Check out Simple Minded Fella channel. He does low velocity testing in gel with all sorts of bullets

This is the best testing ever. Please more more more of these!

Great content!!! It’s always a pleasure to get the notification of new videos.

Great video. It is a well known fact among long range hunters that the older A-Max bullets and the newer ELD-M bullets perform very well indeed at long range. I use the 147gr ELD-M in my 6.5-284 at a muzzle velocity of 2900ft/s and get reliable expansion out to 700m on springbuck. The same with my 338 Win Mag with 285gr ELD-M with a muzzle velocity of 2500ft/s. However Berger 250gr Elite Hunters in 338cal gave me pin-hole penetration (zero expansion) at impact velocities below about 2300ft/s on light game. What I really would like to see in a next video is the performance of the Nosler Accubond Long Range bullets (6.5cal 129gr or 142gr) at impact velocities down to 1800ft/s.

Excellent data guys! My go to hunting bullet is the 147gr. Eld-m at 2900MV out of my 6.5 Swede.

Great work! keep going with the testing.

Love the thoughtfulness of your tests. Would definitely like to see the impact that bone has on deflection and expansion. You guys are really dialing in on setting a hunter’s expectation for realistic hunting ranges. Spot on with your point of ethical shot placement. Would be interested to see comparisons of monolithic bullets. (Because my Grandsons are now eating game meat, I have moved away from hunting with lead core bullets.) Therefore I’m shooting lighter bullets at higher velocities and keeping my target ranges under 250 yards to ensure best expansion.

Thank you for the share, gentlemen. Wonderful information

Notwithstanding this is great and time consuming work to the benefit of all. So many thanks from uk

These videos and tests are awesome. Thanks for all of your hard work. As a California hunter I’d really like to see the same tests with non lead bullets.

Very interesting. Would love to see this with supersonic vs. subsonic expanding .300 Blackout, for a deer hunting situation.

Good start for an old bullet construction (lead), it would be interesting to see how some of the Nosler or the new replacement for the Hornady GMX would perform?

excellent series. the comparison of match Vs hunting bullets for hunting.

Love the testing methods...excellent data here! It'd be fantastic if you both could do the same for muzzleloader at full tilt and simulated 100-150yd velocities w/ the popular (Eg. Mono-Flex, PowerBelt, BoreDriver, etc) bullets. There's alot of conflicting stories out there with results on large game, so you'd definitely have a home-run Vid with this for the hunting community. Keep up the great work! 👍

Fantastic guys! You answered that question. Keep it up!

Great test with good controls. I know this is obvious but the ELDX has a significantly thicker jacket but much softer core. The idea is for expansion to happen after entry vs at contact. It is very interesting, that penetration was similar based on the design intent. You would imagine the drag on an expanded bullet would result in less penetration. I have hunted all over the world and harvested many animals, including most of what North America has to offer. The ELDX has been a bullet of choice for many years. What I have noticed is exactly what was found in this test. They often do come apart and result in bad penetration. This is often countered with shrapnel acting like a shotgun blast inside the animal. This has been on clean vital shots and shoulder shots. I have also experimented with ELDM loads in both a 6.5PRC and 300PRC. Last summer I took a caribou at 350 yards with an ELDM in a 300PRC. The bullet did not penetrate well at all but liquidified the vitals causing instant death. Personally, I would prefer a bullet that stays together, as it typically stays on path. I’d rather get both lungs than one. As such, and from my own experience, I’d chose the ELDM over the ELDX for a hunting round. I know the engineers at Hornady would totally disagree. I just know, I have had to follow up with good placement with ELDX’s due to poor bullet performance. I would also add - my shots are typically 300-600 and larger game. If it was a Texas whitetail, I wouldn’t care at all.

Thanks for all your time, effort and Knowledge!!!

Your results have mirrored mine very closely. Well done. Have a look at the Cutting Edge Raptor, Lazer, and Maximus bullets. They are designed for controlled fragmentation and perform identical regardless if they are going 3000 fps or 1500. When velocity starts dropping down below 2000 fps a bit of controlled fragmentation really helps to maintain disproportionate to caliber wounding.

This is a good series. It can help hunters realize actual maximum range - not necessarily how for the shooter is capable at - but how far the rig is capable to. I think sometimes the two are conflated.

Great video as alway, keep it up! I think many of us would like to see more head to head bullet video's. Like AccuBond LR versus Federal terminal accent/TLR. I enjoy studying bullet construction and how well they work in the field.

Excellent video , very interesting 👍

I think your on track for good bullet comparison’s. Something to consider is bonded bullet like accbond long range construction and monolithic construction like new hornaday cx bullets or Barnes lrx vs current cup and core jacked bullets like eldx with lock ring design. From speaking and listening to a lot of bullets manufacturers on weather to pass through game vs drop as much energy as possible depends on animal being hunted and what environmental factors are you dealing with along with local restrictions.

Love to see a video like this with Federal Terminal Ascents they have been the most accurate bullets in 2 rifles I own.

Wow. Great job. Was not expecting that thank you.

Please test the Nosler Accubond Long Range, it will do much better at low speeds and is a superior bullet. Some of Federal's new long range offerings are much better than anything Hornady puts out as well. Would like to see you include the Sierra designs as well but they are likely to be similar to the Hornady loads.

@gerry6.8

2 жыл бұрын

@Travis Fox Awesome, hope you do! I have had excellent results, as have many others of course, with the regular Accubond and Ballistic Tip and would love to see you compare them as well.

@chaddfry5345

2 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I was going to suggest too.

@phantom4941

2 жыл бұрын

I also support the idea of testing the ABLR, I want to try loading some but haven't seen alot of stuff about them truthfully. Just want to see more before I pull the trigger so to speak

@njgrplr2007

2 жыл бұрын

I've tested the 142g Nosler Accubond LR on coyotes at 20 yards and the 210g on Moose at 250 yards. They work great.

@Chato4570

2 жыл бұрын

Here to throw my vote in for ABLR as well

Great stuff guys! I'd like to suggest testing some monolithic hunting bullets, Hornady's new CX bullet looks interesting.

Great work once again, you guys are providing such valuable information that actually has some proof to back up the numbers that we just take for granted. I would have expected better expansion at 1800 fps and will be keen to watch the 2000 fps test, as I believe it may well become the excepted minimum ethical hunting velocity with either of those two projectiles. Once you have those results then 2000fps could be the best velocity to test the performance of various manufacturers and even other calibers and be more efficient than going through all the velocity ranges again.

I would be interested to see what the constancy of the bullets performance is with this test. Take 3 or 5 shots in Gell with each of the same bullets and see if there is any consistency in their performance. Great videos Gavin I really enjoy all of them, Travis is a great addition to your team.

Outstanding video. Towards the end you made mention of guys using .22 centerfires down southeast on deer. They do tend to be smaller. I have routinely used a .22-250 (55gr SP) here in SE Nebraska and out to 250 yards the performance has to be witnessed to be believed. It'd be great to see you guys do some "science" on this cartridge.

@jameshagerman7681

2 жыл бұрын

A 22-250 with a well constructed bullet is nothing to scoff at. I prefer a bit larger but if I had a deer tag and a 22-250 I wouldn't hesitate to fill the tag

Awesome video! More! I wanna see solids vs the hunting and match at these same velocities to see what the difference is. And then somehow simulating bone as well. No idea how you’d manage to do that in a reliable consistent way. But awesome video again Keep it up!

One of the best low velocity expanding bullets I've used is the Sierra tipped Matchkings. I've had them expand down to 1600 fps, the tip is about 3x as large as an eld

Long range hunting Group has some good videos on match bullets for hunting. He has a lot of time invested in testing and researching this.

@toddparker5966

2 жыл бұрын

I agree they use 300 win mag and 300 prc at 3000 fps muzzle , 215 grain berger hybrid match for elk with excellent terminal performance. Also 230 grain 30 cal berger works good . What about the berger 30 cal 245 grain at 3200 fps from the 300 terminator?

Very interesting test! Would love to see Nosler Accubond LR and Norma Bondstrike perform in the same test. This will be a good bonded bullet test to compare to the regular jacket bullets you just did

Awesome video guys keep it up! I started watching these videoed mainly because you chose the ELDX bullets which I have had horrible experiences with on elk and deer. I shot a elk at 550yrds with a .30 cal 178g ELDX three times before he died and all shots were lung shots, while dressing him out I found the ELDX bullets had all fragmented. The large mule deer was also shot at 550yrds using a 6.5mm 143 ELDX in the lunges twice, the deer walked away from both shots and I tracked him for 3 miles before loosing him onto private land. I have since switched to Nosler accubond bullets and shortened my shot ranges under 300 yards with great success on a bull elk this year and white tail buck. I’m very excited to see you guys test other brand/style bullets and calibers!

@rkwjunior2298

Жыл бұрын

Not having alot of experience. I definitely think 550 was too far for any 6.5 to kill ethically. Thats the trade off using 6.5 for hunting. Many people say it's really not the best hunting caliber, especially with bigger game at longer than average distances.

Very good. Very well done. Thank you gents. I set up a 7mm RemMag for elk but didn't make it out west this year. I chose 162 ELDX. So I worked up a lower velocity deer load @ 2825ish. I have only taken one deer so far with it. It was just over 100 yards. So a good bit closer than desired. A high shoulder shot slightly quartering away. Dropped where it stood. Pretty harsh impact. The exit was large as well. I was surprised I didn't loose as much meat as expected. Accuracy is really very, very good with all the loads I have worked up. But it is better suited for elk I think. Looking forward to that 2000fps test.

@Nick-sx6jm

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I took a big Wisconsin 8pt last year with some factory 162gr ELDX in 28 Nosler at about 350. The bullet would have impacted at about the high 2600's which would be nearly identical to your shot at 100. The exit on mine was devastating as well and the buck dropped right there. The eldx is a pretty soft bullet that is basically just a rebranded match bullet marketed to hunters. I think any of the premium bonded bullets or A frame style would do much better at still dumping a lot of energy without blowing out a 2+ inch exit. Been trying to get my hands on some 175gr ABLR's but they have been impossible to find for almost a year.

@Lure-Benson

2 жыл бұрын

On animals the size of Elk it's absolute stupid to use any lead cored bullet because the bullets will slip the lead cores causing more bullets to be used or not even finding the Elk is possibly a problem. I am 63 years old grown up from childhood with a hunting family in the Pacific NW hunting Roosevelt Elk. We always had problems with Elk not going down - not finding them or finding the Elk even miles away from being shot with lead core bullets then came the Barns x bullet that was a game changer, then came the Barns TSX then using the Barns bullets every Elk shot dies in its tracks! The most common loading this the family is a 7mm Rem mag shooting a Barns TSX 150 grain bullet kills then every time.

147 ELD M in 6.5 prc velocities? Awesome info and interesting the match bullets held together.

This is awesome, great job! In my experience, I will always pick a bullet that will exit if possible. Also, I would like for you to point out that you need to find your velocity in your rifle to know this. Most folks read the back of the ammo box or what’s listed on a website. But most hunters are not using the 24” barrels that these are tested at among other variables. This information is excellent, but if folks use skewed info it’s not as helpful. Thanks again.

Thanks for the info! I am glad I chose to go with the 140gr ELD-M for both practice and hunting. Don’t seem like it is worth the effort to switch between ELD-M and ELD-X.

Hey guys great job!!!! Super interesting results. Also thanks for acknowledging the valid points other members brought up. I’d be really curious to see how the 156 Berger does. I’m in the decision process of trying to decide what the best hunting round for deer and elk would be for a 6.5 PRC. Now you’ve got me wondering, is the eldm a better choice now? I’m excited to see how the bones play into this. Keep it up!!!!!

Love to see 6.5mm 95gr VMax & 90gr Varmageddons in gell at 100m velocity! Love your channel!👍

Much Respect for taking the Constructive Criticism and making this content better.

We really need Part 3! Please.

Just found these videos trying to get a feel for ethical hunting distances with a 16.5” 6.5cm. Very cool and would love to see what it looks like at 2000 FPS as well!

Bravo guys! Very interesting, it would be good to observe these effects when the jacket is welded to the core (interbond, accubond ...) follow this path, thanks

I would like to see a test with the Nosler AccuBond LR (ABLR), and Barnes LRX. ABLR is rated to 1300 fps, and the LRX is rated to 1600 fps just like the ELD-X.

Great job!

Gunwerks uses a bunch of the ELD-M bullets for hunting and in the past Berger Hybrid bullets, your results weren't a total surprise, but reassuring for hunting. Thanks

Thanks for completing these tests. Many of us hunted at longer ranges with the A-Max and jumped across to the ELD-M when released. This confirmed what many of us knew, match bullets (at distance) preform better due to the reduced velocity and jacket thickness. Shot placement is super important and know when you can take animals at distance. Thanks again for taking on the feedback from the last video!

Im impressed yet not that suprised. I love the ELD's. The 120's with PP Varmint shoot lights out in my 20" Grendel setup.

Excellent content and right when I am debating bullet design and selection. My primary hunting platforms are 6.5 PRC and 28 Nosler, so I'd like to see similar testing at higher speeds (3100 fps) as well as the 2000 fps already planned. Understanding bullet construction differences at the higher speeds, combined with the true minimum velocity expectations, will help us in our shot placements to ensure we are making the most ethical shots based on our platform capabilities! Thanks for all the great reviews and providing true test cases. Please keep it rolling!

@Nick-sx6jm

2 жыл бұрын

Last year I took a big Wisconsin 8pt with some factory 162gr ELDX in 28 Nosler at around 350 which would have an impact speed in the high 2600's. The buck dropped right there and the exit was devastating. The ELDX is a pretty soft bullet that isnt bonded so I think if it hits much above 2700-2800 its going to act more like a varmint bullet. You will be better off using a good bonded bullet or A frame style. In my experience the accubonds and fed fusions are the best higher bc hunting bullets and the partitions are great as well. If your hunting with the 6.5 PRC and 28 nos I wouldnt worry about min expansion as much. Been trying to get my hands on some 175gr ABLR's but havent seen them in a year for less than $2 a bullet.

@stephenmarone1020

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nick-sx6jm What's up Nick? I agree and what I didn't say I had a similar experience on an elk a couple years back. I shot a cow at about 230 yards with a 175gr ELD-X. Muzzle velocity with my loads is right at 3150 fps, therefore velocity at impact was over 2800fps. While it was an instant kill shot, one entire quarter was trashed. Seeing what the bullets will do in gel will help determine the proper placement for various distances (based on bullet construction). The reality there is no perfect bullet for all situations, seeing testing like this will help all of us with proper shot placement in at various distances.

Great content! Thank you. Would love to see other brands of match bullets gel tested. I have been loading 140 gr Match Monster HPBT in 6.5 mm. These are really Nosler custom competition bullets packaged in bulk. You can't beat the price. Currently I only use them at the range. Would love to see what their expansion potential is at different velocities.

The ELD-X actually performed as expected. It is designed to mushroom over a large speed range and provide deep penetration. To do this, it is designed to start opening at relatively low velocity with thin jacket walls at the nose and a plastic tip acting like a wedge to start peeling the lead back into a mushroom. The jacket gets thicker, but is carefully designed to fold back in a progressive manner. This is so when the bullet hits at higher velocities, the thin jacket from the nose peels completely back and some of the lead from the tip is abraded off. This keeps the mushroom from growing so large that it acts like a parachute and prevents deep penetration. In other words, the ELD-X deliberately sheds some of the lead from the initial expansion mushroom at higher velocities in order to keep the frontal area (mushroom diameter) small enough to maintain deep penetration over a large impact-speed range. If you watch gel tests of other bullets over a large speed range, you will see that the penetration of some of them is markedly less when shot from fast, magnum cartridges. That is caused by the "parachute effect" from the rapid formation and retention of a large mushroom (expanded frontal area) which causes rapid slowing of the bullet. With those bullets, a hit at lower velocity often gives significantly deeper penetration because the mushroom never got very large.

You might consider setting the test block on top of another block so gel expansion isnt restricted as much on only one side. Another thing to consider is a bullets working range of penetration. These bullets at 23" of penetration would have passed through most deer and possibly elk too. Obviously the permanent wound channel is a good indicator of where a given bullet dumps the majority of its energy. Good work guys!

@kevinh4631

Жыл бұрын

Good point I was thinking the same lines physics dictates that the table or board is cancelling out the shoch waves to the bullet is circling toward the bottom of the bagel

exceptional content, gents. your efforts pay real dividends to those of us who are scientifically inclined but also like to save $$$ :)

Hard data, just what I want to see whether it’s what you want to see or not. thank you gentlemen!

This is great info. Along with 2000 fps. I’d love to see with bone. Also other bullet construction (Nosler accubond, barnes ttsx, Berger hunting)

Loving these videos, really great information. Would all ELDX bullets react the same at the same velocity but in different calibres? I’m running 300win mag 200 grains and it would be interesting to see how that performs.

Thanks for a very interesting video. I'm considering using Nosler 168 grain HPBT .308 Win loads for Mule Deer hunting this fall. Long before I had ever seen a chronograph or laser range finder, I shot a bull elk with a .270 Win 130 gr Bronze Point at about 30 yards. Of course, the Bronze Point was designed to perform well for longer shots, but the elk dropped in his tracks and when I dressed it I found that the bullet had completely fragmented into many pieces but still got the job done. Jess

Came across this video while reloading 6.5 147's and 140's and we wondered how the M would do hunting. Awesome job guys. Only thing i would love to see, and its just me being lazy, is what distance is that bullet that gooing 2200/1800 fps, cause that gives the shooter an idea of the effective range of the cartridge.

I really appreciate your evidence-based thoughtful video reports! Could you (perhaps you have already?) do some investigation and reporting on more mundane combinations, eg. 30'06 150 or 165g Barnes reloads with different velocity loads? Thanks!

Interesting results and thanks for the testing and sharing. The more information we have about our loads makes us more informed to make good ethical decisions in the field. I have always abided by the 1000 lbs of energy rule for an ethical shot on deer. I am loading the 147 ELDM which puts me at 1750 FPS and a max range of 750 yards at that 1000 lbs mark. I now know that that is probably not an ethical shot even if I could put one in the boiler room at that distance. Your research tells me that 2200 FPS is 1600 lbs of energy and a max ethical range of 350 yds... crazy. I am interested to see how the 2000 fps test goes.

Great experiments!!! Being 100% honest with you, I have killed a lot of whitetail deer with the 6.5 mm hornady 147 eldm-m with great success with retaining velocities just above 1600 fps. The key to the success at this velocity with this bullet has been shot placement. Shots through the deers shoulders is the key and the environment and the day are always considered before taking a shot with a velocity as low as 1600 fps or just above this speed. Again, the environment and the day will totally dictate taking a shot at an animal with this bullet and with this low of a velocity !!!!

@timsmith5837

2 жыл бұрын

I to have taken many deer sized animals with the 6.5CM w/147eldm with great success.

@NorthRiverGuide

2 жыл бұрын

I also use the 147gr, one thing that was said and is notable is the rotational force pulling material outwards that they couldn't factor into this test which makes a fair difference in minimum expansion velocity.

Thanks, makes me confident in my elk round.

To address the simulated range and spin issue, the idea I have is to download to match the spin at range (not velocity) and then see if there is a ballistic gelatin composition that will match for expansion and then adjust the width of the video to correct for penetration. In fluid dynamics, a Reynolds number is used to quantify the results of reduced scale models and different test fluids. If you find a formula that works for big and slow, big and fast, small and slow, small and fast and middle of the road like 30-30, that would be a pretty good general test like standard ballistic gelatin is for pistols and rifle at close range.

Very cool how you guys downloaded the loads rather than bumping the range out super far like most of the other tests on KZread. Can you guys run this same test with some monolithic bullets? Say Barnes LRX and the Hornady CX?

I'd like to see these bullets in something like a 26 Nosler or 6.5-300 Weatherby. Both have potential to see impact velocity well over 3000 fps. I'd also like to see either of the Swift Bullet options tested.

@richardc-ex7rt

2 жыл бұрын

That would be cool, and even 6.5-284 Norma.

@nateh2652

2 жыл бұрын

Id imagine the ELDM at 3k+ would be like a dang frag grenade. Lol, i hope they take your suggestion and give it a shot

We could be watching bullet testing videos for the next 15 months . Start the testing fellas 😃 , it’ll be interesting to watch .

Id really like to see you guys add the A-Tip to the lineup

Testing them at a higher velocity like a .26 nosler or PRC muzzle velocity would be interesting to see if the creedmoor’s mild velocities are keeping the target bullets from coming apart.

Good info, I look forward to the 2000 fps test and with bones. Any SMK 30 cal bullets would be interesting vs ELD-M

Great Content I'd like to see the ELD143X vs ELD 147M

I always figured a match would retain more weight less expansion due to thicker copper around the lead

@cpreit8862

2 жыл бұрын

@Travis Fox so hornady is opposite of Berger

@Nick-sx6jm

2 жыл бұрын

@@cpreit8862 Bergers are match bullets as well (even if they are not marketed as that) and also have pretty thin jackets.

@cpreit8862

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nick-sx6jm yeah I get that but hornady match is their target bullet eldx is hunting. Berger is vld target and vld hunting and their hunting has a thinner jacket. So I assumed target bullets had thinker jackets and that's why they don't recommend hunting with them. For the lack of expansion and punching a little hole straight through.

Good vid . I wouldn't be surprised if they come off the same machine into different boxes .. may be a heavier tip ?

If you listen to the hornady podcast.. they said that their competitors that the wouldn't name (that do not have ballistic tip bullets) had serious expansion problems and did not open up at range. I think it would be really beneficial to see the comparable Hornady and Berger bullets head to head in a similar test.

Would love to see the upper and lower velocity range tested for more bullet types eg. Barnes TTSX/LRX, Berger, Scenars Matchkings, Gamekings, Accubonds etc...

Great content guys. Thanks. One thought: would this test warrant shooting more than one sample per load into the gel? This may eliminate any isolated outcomes - perhaps the penetration changes and or expansion behaves differently on average over a larger sample base?

These are so good.

Great video! Just out of curiosity, I wonder if the trajectory of the bullets might rise through the gel if the barrel had an opposite twist rate.

Thoroughly enjoyed your match vs hunting videos. I’m a match user, have been for quite a while both Hornady AMAX, ELDM and now ATIP. Also using the Sierra TMK. I would have preferred if you had used either the 7mm or .30 as these have a much larger hollow point behind the resin tip. Using both these slightly larger calibers and their larger hollow points I think the velocity cut off of the ELDM is extended into the 1500fps and possibly lower range. The 6.5 while very popular at the moment is less terminally effective at the extremes.

I saw a video here on KZread where a gentleman was shooting at a metal target at 600 yards. He was shooting the ELD-M's and the ELD-X's. You can see in the video where the ELD-M's where getting desintegrated or in pieces after impact. The ELD-X's where not "flying" in several pieces.

I would like to see these velocity tests with the nosler partition vs accubond

Interesting that Hornady rates the ELD-X at a minimum velocity of 1600 fps. Looks like 2000 fps might be more realistic. Curious what Hornady has to say about these results.

@DSMattitude

2 жыл бұрын

Hornady always over sells and under performs.

@sancharino4672

2 жыл бұрын

@@DSMattitude How about advertising lot to lot consistency with brass. Simply because every lot has a acceptable tolerance about four times that of other brands. Talk about manipulation. Check out the 6mm AR. And tell me where the 6mm ARC. Came from. I could go on. With that said. I do use there bullets from time to time. Original Interlock's are a pretty good deer bullet. And there caliber universal seating dies come in handy. But there marketing dept. They are one of the worst. Theres nothing new under the sun. As they say

@milesn3173

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, that remoldable gel is notorious for under-expanding bullets and creating smaller wound channels than 10% FBI gel. Convenient for the ability to re-use, but the mix&cool one-time use 10% Gel is, in my opinion, more representative of live tissue. I've shot quite a few ELD-X's into 10% gel towards the bottom end of the envelope and I'm pretty confident what we're seeing here is from differences in test media. We've seen similar things with pistol caliber tests, too, going from one gel to another. Expansion testing done at Hornady is in 10% FBI Gel. V/R Miles Neville Project Engineer Hornady Mfg.

@derekeasley5894

2 жыл бұрын

Barbourcreek has already done these tests. Conducted with 20% gel with deer shoulder bone inside and covered with the hide.

@rexmorgan72

2 жыл бұрын

@@derekeasley5894 I just watched that video. That was a well done video.

I find it comical how some people swear that you cant use a match bullet for hunting. I always refer them to your videos. They were taught that you cant use a match bullet for hunting, so thats what they preach. Im glad you are doing these tests. I accidentally grabbed a box of A-Max for my .308 and shot a deer. I didn't realize I used that A-Max until I was putting my gear away and saw I grabbed them instead of my Eld-x. That deer ran less than 10 yards before it was on the ground. Shot placement is key.

Really enjoy these videos. Would like to see the 127 LRX at low velocity since Barnes claims 1600 fps minimum.

Great video. I would like to see the same diameter bullets compared from different manufacturers. Please include Nosler Partions as it’s a standard for many hand loaders. I personally would like to see this info for 338 bullets. I’m about to start an AR-10 build in 338 Federal.

I would like to see you test Hammers in a couple short mags and a high velocity like a 28 nosler

Awedome thank you guys so much

I am going to get the daved tubb nose ring tool. love to see what happens in ballistic jel match vs hunting. I have a 25-06 1-7 twist shooting the 135 match and the 133 hunting Berger bullets.

@derrickfletcher8835

2 жыл бұрын

@Travis Fox yes it is.

I think it would be great if you could test some Berger VLD Hunting rounds against the Hornady ELD-X rounds. Preferably in 6.5 PRC, 6.5 Creedmoor, and 243 Win. Thanks for the awesome video. Very helpful!

It's a crazy world....3 shot group inside a 2.75" target...Bergara b14 hmr 6.5 with Winchester deer season....400 yds. I'm tickled, saves me a ton on ammo..