I have a brass stacker mount on my 43 Ishevsk 91/30. Solid construction, came with easy instructions. It lifts the scope up a few inches, so you have more of a chin weld than a cheek weld, but can still use the iron sights.

I love my 91/30! I cut mine down to 16 1/4", re-crowned it, slimmed up the stock a bit, painted it, mounted a scout scope and she is GOLDEN. Shoots 147's, 180's and 203's with equal accuracy and vigor. Love them.

I use my mosin 91-30 for all my hunts up here in Alaska. Taken caribou, moose, bear and sheep. Got my muskox permit, can't wait.

@dwarncke

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Lesemann thank you so much for watching and for your comment. They are very capable weapons. I hope you will check out my many Mosin deer and hog hunts on my channel. Thanks again!

@Akhazmat907

6 жыл бұрын

Dustin Warncke I have they are pretty informative

That means so much to me. Thank you! I thought it was rather long but seeing that this is my most popular video, I guess people liked it!

Good point on the bolt. Forgot to mention that. Head-space and firing pin gauging was what I really wanted to spend time on for safety. Thank you so much!

The Best video I have ever seen on the Mosin !!!!

Great vid, I sent this vid to my daughter and her boyfriend, who recently bought a Mosin, and this vid covers everything well...!,,,thanks

Getting ready to go on a gun hunt with my newest 1933r mosin with the Jmeck scope mount. Love this gun and that mount!

@dwarncke

10 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Thanks for watching!

@bobbarker3929

10 жыл бұрын

Dustin Warncke Self absorbed haha

@dwarncke

9 жыл бұрын

Dustin Warncke Awesome. Thank you so much for watching. I would love to see if your hunt if you film it.

Really like this video. Very informative and helpful. Love my Mosin and love learning all that I can about them.

Well said, sir! Thank you. Many people discount these but they are among some of the finest rifles ever made. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I love em! They have everything a rifle needs!

Thank you guys so much!

Thank you for making this video it helped me alot in buying my mosin.

@dwarncke

6 жыл бұрын

Alecia Ross thank you so much for watching. I am grateful for your comment and that I helped you. I hope you will check out my other videos hunting and shooting with the Mosin.

Thank you so much for the great feedback. I had no idea this would be so popular of a video!

BEST REVIEW OF THE MOSIN EVER.. Thanks so much.. funny part is that i have the same 1943R.. This video made me grin from ear to ear.

Lots of vids for removing cosmoline from MN 91/30. I bought a jug of degreaser, completely disassembled rifle, soaked & scrubbed metal parts in degreaser, rinsed off with hot water, put in oven at 200 for an hour to remove moisture, and then sprayed all metal with light gun oil. The stock, all I did was wipe and rub hard with paper towels until the grease was gone. When the stock heats up, you will have more grease leach out of it.

I am grateful for your compliment. That made my day, sir!

nice vid. i have 2 91/30's i sported one with ati stock rock solid bent bolt and rain the other is left original real sweet shooters.

Excellent presentation and much information presented. Best explanation on YT. Awesome job!

Good point. Thank you for the correction!

Thanks for the message. This is a good question. Most of these parts should interchange but I would certainly recommend checking the bolt protrusion with one of the issued gauges and head spacing just for safety reasons. A bolt could have been changed out during or after the guns time at the Ishavek, Tula, or other arsenal.

I am 24 and this was the first gun I shot I was a bit concerned about recoil. I have found it not an issue. My girlfriend also shot this as her first gun. She is 5'3" and 120 lbs. Proper shooting technique will help, I had the stock a bit off my shoulder when I shot it the second or third time and I will never make that mistake again... The recoil is noticeable, but straight back, so hold it tight and against your shoulder and you'll be fine.

Very good and helpful video Dustin. Just subscribed.

Thank you for this video.

Just to clear up my previous comment, I don't mean to disrespect you or your video, which I actually thought was very well made, (without a lot of crap that a lot of people make up when they talk about guns), you speak very clear with no distracting noises or radios playing in the background. I hunt with my 1943 Izzy ex-sniper with a J-Meck scope mount and a generic 3X9 powered scope. The rest of the rifle is in original configeration, but am thinking about sporterizing another 1942 Izzy I have.

Thank you. It was a long video already, espcially by YT standards! There are so many other things we can go in to and that is a good point!

Very good video!

Rock Solid Ind. makes excellent sporter bolt body/handles for these. Also they make the best scope mounts for these I've seen but they do require drilling & tapping 3 holes.

This is one of the most informative and well made Mosin Nagant videos I've seen yet..learned a few new facts about them. I personally think they are great rifles and much more accurate than most people give them credit for assuming you pick one up with a good bore..to answer a question somebody in the comments asked, the 7.62x54r is excellent for hunting just about anything in north America, a 203 grain soft point will knock them in the dirt all day long

I like the oven or trash can/natural heat method. I have even used steam using a steamer or an iron and wet wash cloth to pull out the cosmo. It all depends on the severity of how bad it is caked in there. Many forums and websites have great ideas for cosmo removal. Thanks for watching!

Good research. Thanks man!

ATI makes the best aftermarket receiver drill/tap kit. The last gun I showed has this mount and a regular mounted scope. That being said, I would advise you to find a mosin already drilled and tapped rather than an original. Cost is one factor, Collector value is another. Many fellow Mosin-addicts like the guns without the sporterization. A Savage or even a Mossber ATR are good choice alternatives for modern low cost guns already drilled/tapped for regular scopes if that is a better option.

ATI makes a good scope mount kit. I would personally have the bolt bent by a gunsmith but the cut-off and drill in bolt they have would work. Their kit is under $50 and I have one installed on my sporter mosin.

Thank you so much!

Cosmo removal ....get yourself an 8" PVC pipe about 10" longer than the rifle. Get two end caps. Put rifle into tube all the way in. Drill three holes about the size of a meat thermometer in three places on top of tube. Other end have a heat gun is hot air in and monitor temp by a meat thermometer through the holes you made , its a nice little oven set up that worked for me very well

Good point. Finding matching numbers is harder these days indeed but not all of them are electro-penciled. I just bought at hex receiver 1933 Ishevek that has matching numbers. The M44 is force matched as is the sporterized Mosin but you can usually make a better case for good fit and function if every part has original matching numbers. Headspacing is always important.I agree with your point but I disagree that almost all are force matched.

Thanks for the comments guys! Head spacing has to do with the room between the bolt head and cartridge. Do a google search on it for more info. It is important to consider in older guns and bolt action guns for sure.

Great Vid. You speak very well!

Nice! I am a card carrying member of the Cult of Mosin and I approve this message.

Good questions and glad we are here to help. 223 is a good choice for light recoil. The Mosin is a full power gun and recoil, especially with a steel butt plate, will be considerable. First, the 91/30 is a better choice for recoil consideration vs. the carbine version. A shoulder pad or aftermarket recoil pad will make the recoil very manageable and I am not bashful to say I use one when I shoot these to help manage recoil and maintain the best accuracy.

Sure! I would check out local area gun shows as well as online at places like GunsAmerica . com or GunBroker . com. I just got on Gun Broker to check on this for you and they are still there. A little expensive in some cases but still available. The gun market all over the place has shot up. Keep checking with J/G Sales. They usually always have stock on 91/30s and should soon again. Thanks for watching!

Thanks for the Info!

All good points. Inherently, the longer rifle versions are more accurate than the carbines. Johnny, you are correct on the refurb square/slash box on the wood stock. I thought I mentioned this but possibly not. The 7.62x54r is similar to the 30-06 or .308 in power and ballistics and can be used on anything that walks in North America for sure. The round is just not as common as American staple rounds but popularity is growing. This video is good proof of that. Geez guys! Lots of views!

Bolts are interchangeable with just about all models so this is not that big of a surprise but matching bolts with the rest of the gun usually increase overall collector value. Thanks again and for watching our videos!

The ATI has been solid. Not a huge fan of drill and tap receiver mounts in case the drilling has already been done but ATI is only of the leaders in the market in that realm. I would love for someone to come out with a sturdy scout mount that would extend over the receiver for a regular eye relief scope one day. Many shooters I am around tell me that the scout mount set up is too different for them. But each to their own I guess.

I have heard it said both ways. In any case, cleaning with some 50/50 ammonia after shooting before the normal cleaning process is not a bad idea. That being said, I have shot hundreds of Silver bear, Wolf, and other commercial ammo and cleaned my Mosin's normally and have not seen a bit of corrosion. Someone also commented on my SKS video about foreign commercial ammo being corrosive. Your milage may vary. I know these guns well and use them to hunt and target shoot regularly.

Heard of it. Looks cool!

Sure. The NcStars have worked well but I have heard excellent things from Bushnell and Leupold pistol or scout scopes.

The surplus ammo in the spam can tins or brown paper wrappers still represent the best value. But remember my mantra...CLEAN after shooting with ammonia or another method to neutralize the corrosive salts. Gun shows and many gun stores should still have a decent supply of surplus ammo out there.

Very true. You can certainly get away with doing a scout mount and pistol scope for under $100 bucks on one which are how three of mine are set up. Sporterizing used to be the cheapest way but I agree that it is cheaper to just get a Savage or Mossberg rifle for the cost of building a custom one like mine. The point is that if you have it and what to do it, the upgrades are still affordable compared to some custom rifles.

You are an excellent speaker. Well done. So tired of vids where people dont even know where their next sentence is coming from.

The K should be on the receiver or bottom part of the butt stock, I belive. Please correct me if I am wrong on this, other Mosinites. That is something I have heard but hadn't researched. Thanks for your comment and question!

you should mention brass stacker, they make tons of mosin accessories.

Be sure to take the bolt apart to clean the firing pin, it does get dirty. There is a vid. On 91/30 bolt cleaning on another channel. Helpful tips here , thank you.

Sure. Sorry for the delay in response. Yes. I found out a couple of months ago that Darrel has stopped production. Second choice would be the S&K mounts. I have one on the M44. Find them online at scopemounts . com

Only the M44's to my knowledge, were sighted in with the bayonets attached. Many hunters use the Mosin with open sights in shorter terrain so you should be fine. Check out my hunting videos on the Mosin and my new video on the Jmeck scope mount I just put up as well. I just use scopes as I hunt at longer ranges and enjoy the aid of modern day optics.

It's a pretty cool old rifle. It's not as loud or accurate or as powerful or long distance as you think. I was thinking more along the lines of a 98K Mauser 8mm when I first shot mine. Still a fun rifle for a $100.

I heard you mention several times about the 91-30 having a 31 1/2 inch barrel. 91-30's have a 28 3/4 inch barrel.

I wish these were still $125

@dwarncke

9 жыл бұрын

Adam Kushner Thanks for the comment. Yes, I do as well. I bought a few to stash away because I knew the price would go up eventually. Keep in mind when I made this video, they were still that low price. I have seen some in the $175 range lately. Thanks for watching.

@timmykkgb

8 жыл бұрын

I got the m44 for 200 dollars a few years ago. It's such a great rifle for so cheap it's ridiculous

Really love the wood finish on your model. Did you re-finish it yourself?

Guys get your slef a Mosin ! They are fun and cheap. The bullet will drop anything on 4 legs in the US. Simply built and utterly reliable. Any ammo you put through one will likely be corrosive, windex works best for cleaning up corrosive ammo, and use any gun lube when you're done. DO NOT expect a 2 inch group at 500 yards it will not happen with this rifle. You get center of mass shots all day out to 300 yards with or without a scope. It's a good rifle to have on hand.

the barreled action is tula and bolt carrier, etc. is izhavek, but all numbers seem to match and the floor plate is a crossed serial number and stamped to match with the numbers on all the other parts. idk...

The reason why the 7.62x54r ammunition makes the gun like boom sticks, was that the ammunition changed from being powdered/grain for vanguard/line firing to long distance marksman rifles and automatic machine guns or said caliber. ammunition dating before 1940-60 were lower power.

I just bought a M44 with an original M44 war production stock barrel is mint so is the bluing no refurbish marks, counterbored, has brass capped upper handguard and a lot of unknown markings on it like A LOT cant find any the same it also has a stamped name from someone on the side I think it may have been a captains rifle it doesnt fit a refurbish or unused rifle

you can actually take the complete rear sight off and buy high rise scope rings, then you don't need one of those rails to mount your scope.

good vid. what happens if you dont use a fixed power scope? I want to do a scout setup but dont want to be restricted to short range shooting. You ever look at brass stacker mounts?

It depends on what kind. 91/30's are still in that lower range. Chinese Type M44 Patterns and the other Carbines are higher in cost due to demand and availability on the market.

Wow great video, Dustin. I've been looking into putting on a scout mount on my 91/30 for this season. I picked up 5 boxes of that Silver Bear 203 SP a couple months back, and you're right it's great stuff. Do you have any suggestions for a nicer scope that would work well on this gun?

How about cleaning with Hoppes #9? I've been doing that and it seems to work, haven't had any rusting or anything happen to the bore or bolt head.

Yes, indeed. Just being general. Different strokes for different folks.

Do a quick Google Search for Head Spacing. It hard to explain in a short reply but basically it has to do with the tolerance, or room, between the front of the bolt and cartridge. Headspacing beubg too loose can be dangerous in bolt action rifles.

Before you guys decide on upgrading the Mosin do the math- $60-$70 for a new stock, $30-$40 for a bent bolt, $30-$40 for a scope rail, $40-$50 for a scope + at least $100 for the rifle, you end up spending at least $300 if not more for a 70 year old rifle not including labor! It's fun though :)

What do you experts suggest for an affordable, under $0.50/rd. hunting round for the mosin? Soft point? Open tip? Modifying by cutting cross into ball ammo?

What do you think about the Brass Stacker Mosin scout mount?

what happens if the numbers match, but the bolt parts are made in a different factory then the barrel and receiver?

Can you please provide links for the scout mounts that you mention in this video? Darrell's doesn't appear to exist any longer, or is no longer in business. Thanks in advance

Hey dustin, other than a bigger fireball on the m44 vs the 91/30 is he m44/T53 just as accurate as the the 91/30?

Yes, you can certainly use something else and I have not heard of the brass stacker mount, just stay away from the cheap Chinese scout mounts at all costs! You can go variable on the scope but I would buy a different brand. I hit a NcStar variable one time and it blew out the gas and everything went to crap after that. Just my experience. I like having range options too but that was my experience.

I own a M44 that I have hunted Coyote with using Silver Bears and I also own two M38's. Now I need to get a 91/30... or ten...

for cleaning? did you mix the ammonia yourself, or do you buy it mixed somewhere?

I know you said you hunt with the Silver Bear, but (ethical considerations aside, and in a theoretical sense) what are your thoughts about using the basic surplus ball or light ball ammo for hunting?

@dwarncke

7 жыл бұрын

cooljcadetman good question. For hunting you typically want expanding bullet/soft point ammo to make an ethical kill. Being that military ammo is all typically FMJ, I would only use it for predator control at the very most as lighter predator like coyotes are easier to kill than something like a deer. Does that make sense? My preference is still only going to be to use hunting loads for hunting.

thats what i was looking at first but i don't have a lot a power tools so i cant really use that but thank you very much . but on good deed deserves another : i have recently found an interesting no gun smiting mount ( this is realy a no gunsmithing mount all you need to know is how to take off the stock and i little wood) its called a j-meck mount its supposed to be extremely durable and hold a good zero it, loos like a pickitiny rail on hose clamp but just as the ak its ugly but works ! WOLF.

in the video you're saying that recoil alone can destroy a variable zoom scope?

i have a cppl of them just for s & g's about corrosive ammo and take out the guess work..just clean the darn thing when your done shooting~ lube it it up and ta da your done, no worrys..why make a mountain out of a grain of a grain of sand..clean it good each time ..happy shooting !

i just purchased one and it was caked in grease! so far all i did was kinda wipe off most of it with a dry paper towel. have you had this problem when you bought yours? if so, what did you do to initially clean it, or what would you suggest?

i'm 15 and i'm thinking about this for my next gun .how is the recoil on this rifle the largest rifle i shoot is a 7.62x39 sks I'm 4'8 and i'm worried i't will recoil so hard that i would't be able to use it. what i'm gettin at is it sutible for a fairly short person to shoot confortabley for a wile or should i save a bit more and go with a savage axis in .223 ?also what is the cHAEPEST AND MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO PUT A REGULAR STYLE SCOPE ON A MOSIN I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF SCOUT SCOPES.THANKS

what is head space?? Also I guess it is u tube problem but I almost didnt finish your vid because of my antivirous kept blocking some one from showing comercials.

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Have you had any problems with your ati scope mount?

Google youtube mosin cleaning. There's a long process you have to go through to clean a Mosin Nagant due to the cosmoline slathered on every inch of them. You can take it one step further to sand and refinish the stock. Mineral spirits and steam helps.

What method did you use for cosmolene removal?

hmm i figured it'd drop a few things on two legs as well

Just as a little tip. even though the silver bear and many other 7.62x54r ammo products say non-corrosive on the box... they are still corrosive. Till this day there is still no non-corrosive 7.62x54r made. I do not know why but that is the sad truth. If you think im wrong look it up at pretty much any Mosin Nagant forum, you will find your answer there. other than that great VID!

Great video! But doesn't Hoppes 9 neutralize the salts as well, since it was formulated back when corrosive primers were the norm?

@dwarncke

9 жыл бұрын

Kevin Smith Great question. Thanks for watching. From my understanding, the "old" recipe of Hoppes #9 would nuetralize the corrosive sales but what you buy today from them will not. I clean with Hoppes all the time but still clean with hot water or ammonia to be on the safe side. Having dealt with a Russian SKS that was caked in rust due to the previous owner not cleaning it properly after shooting corrosive ammo, I am extra careful these days. Thanks again for watching and feel free to check out my other work at www.dustinsprojects.com.

@kevinsmith6826

9 жыл бұрын

Dustin Warncke Awesome! Thanks for the quick reply! I'll make sure I add Windex to my range kit when cleaning the Mosins. Its not like its expensive or anything...lol!

@bntaft5133

5 жыл бұрын

@@kevinsmith6826 I always use Windex. Works great.

I've found a $10 rubber butt pad and a very tight grip help alot. Put 50 rounds through it each session, get a little bruising but not sore. Pull it in tight like a lady, it won't kick as hard.

Barely manage ? Hah! my Sks feels like a 410 to me now so recoil is no real problem any more . the sound though eh, not that bad but its the only thing that keeps me from shooting it all day. but an a scale from 1-10 how bad is the recoil compared to the sks ?

i recommend trying to shoot a .308 and see if you can handle the recoil. if so, then you should have no problem handling a 91/30. i personally would only hunt with this 1) if you are lucky and get at good shooter and dont have to do any or very little work on it 2) if you plan on using iron sights. I say that, because by the time you add a mount and scope on it, you will be at about the price of a new hunting rifle.

If you shoot corrosive ammo with the bayonet extended, don't forget to clean it or it too will rust.

Awesome video Dustin! I had a 9130 that functioned flawlessly . Wish I still had it ! Traded it for a Finnish mosin which did not function as well and rounds jammed in the modified finnish magazine which drove me crazy . So traded that in for a 1944 m44 because I always wanted the carbine version , but ! It does not function that well either . It jams rounds in the mag . I think it has to do with the sping thing in the mag , I forget the name . I will cycle the bolt and the rounds stay down . Very much a pain in the butt .. Ever seen this and have any ideas for a fix ? I think it will also get stuck when driving in a round to the chamber , where the round will not go up the feed ramp . Very dissappointing ! I think the original 9130 was from the 30s but cant remember , but that one function like a champ !!!!

@dwarncke

6 жыл бұрын

joe smith Thank you for watching my brother. I hope you are doing well and you are having a great week! That sounds like a frustrating set of experiences. In Making sure the feeding is working right, be sure you are loading the ammo correctly using a stripper clip or round by round. Be sure the rim is seated against the back of the mag well correctly.

@joesmith-fi1sx

6 жыл бұрын

Dustin Warncke do u think I need to loosen the interrupter spring ?

@dwarncke

6 жыл бұрын

joe smith possibly. It might help. I might consider taking it to a gunsmith to get it looked over as that has not been a common issue I have had or seen others have and I have 6 Mosins. Thanks again for watching and for your question and comment.

But is this a good all-around hunting load as well? Has anyone used the ball effectively on deer-sized game?

@kevinmencer3782

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a Mosin Cultist, so I spend an inordinate amount of time watching Mosin-related content... including hunting. Depending on load, I've seen people take down feral swine, deer, coyotes, and more.

Do a KZread search for ARCHANGEL MOSIN NAGANT STOCK. Coming in Mid- to late- March of 2013. Great stuff !