This is one of the best interviews I've heard with Heather and Bret. They're both so strong here -- topics discussed brought out the best in them. Thank you.

@VaughanMcCue

2 жыл бұрын

I wish I could give this 100 votes as it is compelling listening. Thanks to all. Subscribed to Dark Horse. I am astounded that 12K views and only 400 likes. What gives yooz pees? 22;00 GMT Sep 18

Happy you hosted them. They are always open to rigorous inquiry and debate.

Someone needs to do a Last Week Tonight style supercut of Shermer saying "My wife's from Germany and moved here for me - I think she made a mistake!"

@chikkipop

2 жыл бұрын

@Cmon man Can the commies be any worse then the Trump Cultists?

@drts6955

2 жыл бұрын

@Cmon man Where exactly in Europe? I haven't seen any

@Raydensheraj

2 жыл бұрын

@Cmon man Social Democracy is communism? I assume you have never EVER been in Germany.

Thanks for having us on Michael :D

@taylorroth2258

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you ☘️

@evankunkle6602

Жыл бұрын

First Time hearing Real People in business and History

Thanks for inviting Heather and Bret! Listening to them is always a positively enlightening and joyful experience. We need more of those brave in-depth conversations.

It's always great to see/hear people speak honestly and open about interesting topics. Looking forward to reading their book.

Amazing...how polarized people are by them. "Unsubscribing?!" Gimme a break. Do you people saying I'm "unsubscribing" do that to everyone who you disagree with? Don't worry about the hate Shermer. You've got a fine podcast with a huge variety of people. Cheers

@byronbevensee5723

2 жыл бұрын

Is expressing an opinion via the subscription system. Is not hate, is not cancel culture, and is not polarization. This being a channel that promotes skepticism and critical thinking, looses credibility when a charlatan like Weinstein comes in to promote his book and further his career as a pseudointelectual. Fault is bigger when it does it in an uncritical way, and not press on the subjects Weinstein is broadly infamous for. Is at odds with everything that Skeptic and Shermer holds as a value. I unsuscribed because I dont want to contribute to the subscriber count to a channel that serves as a platform for uncritical conversations under the banner of critical thinking. I think the polarized reaction was yours, taking it personal and jumping to generalizations.

@marcelmarceau2526

2 жыл бұрын

@@byronbevensee5723 how is Bret a “charlatan”?

@bidhrohi12

2 жыл бұрын

They subscribed because he sells himself as a courageous skeptic. They're unsubscribing because he's demonstrably NOT that - he's a hypocrite and a charlatan. They're letting him know that there's a bit of distance between what he advertises himself as being, and what it is. You're butt-hurt.

@_nebulousthoughts

2 жыл бұрын

People have lost the ability to hear a critique of their opinions. They only hear an attack now.

@bidhrohi12

2 жыл бұрын

@@_nebulousthoughts And who is above that observation? Not Bret, for sure. Nor his fans. They come here to hear what they already believe be told back to them. To be told what smart little munchkins they are.

You can be libertarian and against porn. People always confuse libertarianism as being accepting of everything. Libertarianism is more like the acknowledgement, in this instance, that you don't have a RIGHT to force anyone to not watch porn. This has nothing to do with viewing it as good or fine necessarily. You can be libertarian and believe no one should watch porn anywhere and that it's evil. The idea libertarianism is seen "permissiveness" is reflective of the authoritarian, paternalistic dichotomy in which people seem to see everything: That everything is somehow "being controlled" or "not being controlled"

Thank you Michael, Heather and Bret🥰

Thank you for having these kind folks on. Just received my book…so darn interesting!

Thank you for this wonderful discussion! I respect all of three of you a lot! I especially appreciate the discussion on parenting and school!

39:55 This demonstrates how easy it is to mold a valid scientific concept around a belief system. I love how Bret responds at 40:22

Really enjoyed the conversation. Thanks a lot

Great interview! It's a sad indictment of our times when simply talking with people who have heterodox ideas (as do I) is considered offensive and worthy of cancellation. In fact, we can learn a lot from those who think outside the box.

@Raydensheraj

2 жыл бұрын

Religious systems have done this for....since the beginning. Now the same people attack Critical Race Theory, Abortion rights and vaccines.

@larky3487

2 жыл бұрын

it is sad, but they scream the loudest, more emotional. Liken it to the bratty child at check out, the louder they yell, kick, and scream the more they get their way,,,,this entitled behavior began in childhood, and for some they never out grew the temper tantrum stage. I would imgaine they were ignored at home, or at the very least, accomplishments were not acknowledged. (curious why the cancel culture types are mostly white, lib, women?)

Im really bad at school, my ex has Parkinson's and my daughter would stress him on purpose till he passed out on the floor. A full years effort to avoid 2 months of dittos

Fantastic conversation. It's refreshing when most media arenas appear to be saturated with the political nonsense back and forths that keep us all in the muck. Glad we're starting to have the real systemic conversation about the long arch of time, not who's currently in power and the webs sewn over our eyes by those that benefit from our infighting and ignorance and blunt tools

This was a great chat! Thanks for hosting - currently listening to their audiobook

Great conversation.

Wonderful to see three people with such integrity, who are grounded in evidence, consequence, logic, and reason over ideology and groupthink.

33:02 sound bite! lol

Understandable but predictable reactions from those appalled by Bret and Heather’s recent controversial stances not being brought into the conversation. Meanwhile, I’m sitting here enjoying a wonderful and enlightening conversation like a retiree in a hot tub in the French alps. 😌

@EvanJHagen

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaronclarke7732 Thanks for the comment. I would have appreciated some discussion. There is a responsibility with a successful platform (similarly, and much more so, with Joe Rogan's quality yet often destabilizing show), but responsibility must also be placed upon people' ability to think for themselves, which it seems is not commonly taught or practiced enough. I myself as a fan of theirs have been confused, but I remain confidently skeptical of everything, despite my biases, and have been vaccinated etc. It's tricky, and it's a tricky world. Have a great week!

@ryrez4478

2 жыл бұрын

@MasterOnion North they are pushing ivermectin instead of the vaccines when clearly it should be reversed. they know how to read studies. they have spread hours of misinformation for months and months.

@jbu89gb

2 жыл бұрын

Their publicist is making it a condition of their book tour podcasts.

@ryrez4478

2 жыл бұрын

@MasterOnion North then you simply didnt listen to their claims. they are claiming the vaccines are dangerous and that there is already reason to opt out of taking them. they are crying long term side effects and pushing anti vaxx talking points that arent backed by any science whatsoever. they are suggesting treatments that have no scientific support over the ones that have mountains of it. their dangerous claims were not ever about a waning effectiveness in the vaccines.

@Marklar3

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryrez4478 I think you're misunderstanding them, which is understandable because you likely don't listen to their podcast and probably mostly hear about them second hand or through short clips. They aren't telling people take ivermectin or not to take vaccines. People might cite their discussions are reasons to do so, but they aren't telling people what to do. I know they see that there is scientific support for Ivermectin, as they've cited the meta-analysis by Tess Lawrie. The fact that we don't know the long term effects of either vaccines or the virus is simply true. They don't say that to convince people to not to take the vaccine, they say it because it's a factor that should be considered. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it misinformation. On the rare occasions they make mistakes they correct them.

A Hunter Gatherer's Guide is a terrific book that has confirmed, for me, many of my own theoretical musings regarding the inheritance of culture. Also, I disagree with Bret one issue: Government is NOT a necessary evil. It's a necessary good.

As cycles repeat, the voids underneath the social foundations ring buried truths that have stagnated evolution, brain percentage, dna percentage.

1.07 . "You are still in the business of educating people" Most definitely .

*people have too much to lose. ive been shocked: but i think most people (who think about it at all) get somewhr in the ballpark of **_"it isnt THAT dangerous - sure, maybe more dangerous than covid in nearly all cases, but not my hill to dxe on. sure, pharma is scamming money, dont they always."_* not good enough, but that appears to be what hapns. career. medical degrees are too expensive. years are long. not my hill to dxe on; im saving *differrent* lives. _JC

When did the hypernovelty start? Declaration of Independence? Batch schooling? Smart phones?

The system is dependant on this, not the other way around.

Just bought the book. Don’t agree with everything, but enjoy the thought provoking nature of these two thinkers.

@bidhrohi12

2 жыл бұрын

They're not thinkers. They recognize the utility of jargon and scientism to promote conspiracy theory, to seduce retards into becoming devout followers. They're making money off their followers literally dying from following their lies. They're cold blooded sociopaths.

@guitardeez

2 жыл бұрын

@@bidhrohi12 you're either a master troll or a complete narcissistic sociopath yourself.

@kdemetter

2 жыл бұрын

@@bidhrohi12 Your post is merely evidence that you haven't watched their shows, you merely believe lies peddled about them. If you had watched their shows, you would know that they present their data using studies all the time. If they make a mistake, they'll often correct it on the next show, and they often correct each in other directly in the live stream as well. And they criticize badly done studies, even those that would support their point of view. In fact, Bret's problem has been that he will not tolerate any form of dishonesty and so he gets in trouble that way. But the truth has a way of coming out and exonerating him. This will be no different, even if its scale is larger.

@gb7418

2 жыл бұрын

I like these guys. It’s comforting to have surefooted guides to help get us thru Modernity.

@gb7418

2 жыл бұрын

@@bidhrohi12 damn, sir and/or ma’am, you’ve been had I’m afraid

great interview !

Great interview. Many interesting points. I’m surprised at the negativity of several of the commenters. Sounds like some people have their minds made up and aren’t interested in hearing anything that brings their viewpoints into question. I thought all discussion was reasonable and valid. There are some points on which we must continue to search for data and be ready to adjust our viewpoints as determined by emerging evidence.

@bidhrohi12

2 жыл бұрын

It's funny how unintelligent, ignorant people have been trained to sound thoughtful. What you just wrote has no connection to why people are objecting to this video. "Brings their viewpoints into question"? Their viewpoint is that he should have asked them about the misinformation campaign they've been pushing that had been based on debunked fraudulent data. A campaign that has caused people to harm themselves by neglecting legitimate medical advice, and procuring chemicals from animal stores. Is he "challenging" peoples perceptions by agreeing to not ask questions about the thing that has many people criticizing them?

@WhiteRussianBC

2 жыл бұрын

The negative comments aren't about this interview. They're about Bret's medical opinions, which he has shared on his podcast, but were suspiciously absent from this interview.

@drts6955

2 жыл бұрын

I think the problem with B and H is they are often full of shit, though I like them. Their ideas about male-female sex seem to ignore almost everything we know about tribal and historical societies. Which is really weird when they go on so much about how the "software" level is so important and monogamy (or apparent monogamy) and mate choice were culturally enforced in throughout history. People pair-bonded because they had to, not because of biological sex differences (though of course these are real too). I wonder how they argue can something so silly

@oceania2385

2 жыл бұрын

@@WhiteRussianBC Brett's medical opinions are well founded.

@larky3487

2 жыл бұрын

@@bidhrohi12 they are true to their Pro-Choice beliefs. I appeciate that for you, fear has allowed you to abandon that hard line. But to still infer one of the lesser choice as a chemical from an animal store is weak. Like Benadryl there is one for animals and one for humans. Rather than making fun, why not question why something that is still in very expensive trial stage, therefore none of the offered jabs are FDA spproved, with a very short durablity rate is the mandated choice. Rather than the cheaper, FDA approved, many decades of success, not even allowed to be part of the discussion. Because of big pharma, and sadly people actually dont want choice

Good conversation.

Consciousness starts with seeking food. No matter how intricate, consciousness is food seeking.

@jessgarza88

2 жыл бұрын

What if it's pleasure seeking, what if consciousness is fundamental, how could you possibly prove your assertion

@davetaitt1528

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessgarza88 can I not assert a belief?

@davetaitt1528

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessgarza88 all theories begin with an assertion to be disproven.

Galactic Astro chart. 1/21/80 6:10 pm Englewood NJ

“Screen time plus algorithms” what is meant by algorithms exactly?

@buryyourdraws

2 жыл бұрын

An algorithm is just a set of instructions. Usually you're talking about a computer program when you use that word but it could just as easily apply to the instructions on how to assemble the new table you just bought or even a recipe etc. Every time KZread or Facebook (etc.) is recommending you the next thing to look at, it is based on all the data they've collected on your previous viewing habits. This raises the likelihood of recommending something you'll click on, i.e. keep using the service, i.e. keep staring at the screen.

@jadebayliss9388

2 жыл бұрын

@@buryyourdraws thank you!

@_nebulousthoughts

2 жыл бұрын

A mathematically derived set of rules that are set up to get you to spend more time on a platform, usually by taking the data of what you watch and serving you more stuff like it.

Awesome episode !

What's political about diet and sleep?

Thanks for the interesting conversation amongst first principled thinkers :)

Hello: I Inspire your Before Century Evolution History Books

Who would have thought a Paleontologist had the last word on evo-psych?

@Raydensheraj

2 жыл бұрын

Clearly you don't know much about Sociobiology aka Evolutionary Psychology to think this is the "last word"...geez.

@modvs1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Raydensheraj I was alluding to S J Gould's "just so stories" epithet.

I guess, Günther Anders was more in depht in 1956...

Do you know how to read a galactic birth chart? They have been farming and harvesting me and trying to harness and even kill me for a very long time.

I get so upset when Elle stresses her teachers. The teachers get older and starts hating their jobs. A bad teacher can ruin education for life for a student.

Bret & Heather = Great guests...

People don't listen to me, they don't perceive what I do, so im apparently lying and delulu, id be so happy to share the intersecting spiraling faceted perception with you guys. Broken chains and cycles,

Are they Ronin professors?

Reaction to Bret referencing abortion being new. Abortion isn't a new technology. It's explicitly mentioned in the original Hypoctatic Oath. Obviously it was around before that. To be fair in the context of prehistory as opposed to the 5,000 years of history, abortion may relatively new. Do any contemporary hunter-gatherers do intentional abortions?

A Montessori school..? WTF !?!? Lol. You are in for a shock, mate.

Im being chased down aand harvested and brood parasite bait and sswitched if i don't have allis. That affects everyone.

I am of the opinion that anyone who can't communicate in any indigenous African language should desist from associating his initials with us ..and yes this includes our melanated brothers!

@Francisqolito

2 жыл бұрын

@@guyincognito8440 how?

@Francisqolito

2 жыл бұрын

well the term "Europe" has no basis in the natural world but rather an outcome of the most preponderant human tradition, that of communicating ...there is no other basis even for the specific group you claim ..I think now you can appreciate the fact that to be African is to communicate in an African language.

@Francisqolito

2 жыл бұрын

@@guyincognito8440 well either that or your capacity to cogitate and understand is less than impressive. I don't think any sane person would put their money on a. I don't even think it is worth it but let me just throw out a recommendation of a book by an Italian Philosopher that tells half the story "Documentality - Or Why Nothing Social Exists Beyond the Text" by Maurizio Ferraris.

Appreciate Heather and Brets take on things. Thanks for having them on.

And if women stayed home with kids the labor pool would be twice as valuable over night.

@gb7418

2 жыл бұрын

Or men?

@EMO_alpha

2 жыл бұрын

@@gb7418 I mean.. i guess, yeah. But i don't think both sexes are equally as valuable in the home and the workplace. Especially in the early stages babies need moms alot more than they need dad. When they start to get older dad becomes alot more useful. If i understand correctly. I haaate working i would gladly stay home and take care of kids. But lets be honest, really succesful women want a more succesful man not a dude that wants to stay home lol

Im working on making a completely different currency. Carbon biological pulse is humans like me as zero point.

Bret is the embodiment of skeptic. So much so that sometimes the skepticism goes a little too far. But I admire him for that and ofc his integrity during hard criticism. He remains humble to the truth and that's what matters. Also, people keep saying he literally killed people by asking pertinent questions even if he didn't get the right answer. These are exaggerations that only prove the point. Rational debate should never be stifled, EVEN during emergencies.

@WhiteRussianBC

2 жыл бұрын

Being a skeptic doesn't mean you question authority. Being a skeptic means you question EVERYBODY. Bret is more of a contrarian than a skeptic.

Would there have been circumstances for women to engage in sex without commitment? Maybe... If after a war, there where few men around. Wouldn't it be better to have sex than not to have sex for the lack of a partner?

I love hearing Heather Heying speak. What an amazing duo. Loved this discussion and have ordered their book.

Stronger In Numbers

Here Be To Remember Graduation

A really WEIRD discussion. I know plenty of men who had sex with many women in their 20's, got married in their 30s, had kids, and I've never heard a single man discount his sexual experimentation. I have heard regret in regards to alcohol and sex.

@ellengran6814

2 жыл бұрын

When we humans say : People dont adapt, people has to much sex before they are married etc, we normally say a lot about our own believes......but often less about other humans.

You are likely to disbelieve this I understand that however this is true in a certain State of mind not typical of mine States in the fall of 2019 in Arizona near the Mexican border I recalled and memory of being a fish on a world where there was not yet any dry land and let me tell you something it wasn't terribly pleasant not because of the lack of dry land but because of the competition for nutrients and air H2O oxygen but you can imagine it's inside your brain somewhere too.

We Split Pairing…

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Wow 😳, this comment section. I like to hear different ideas but it seems looking at the comments that some folks don't. You don't have to like everything you hear but at least respect their right to say it.

@gingerbill128

2 жыл бұрын

Yea , these posters are on a team and if you aren't on there team they hate you , simple as that. That's the modern world :(

@dranreb1118

2 жыл бұрын

They obviously missed the point on being a scientific skeptic. Skeptics like Shermer are there to challenge emerging ideas. The new ideas have to fight for their right to be considered by presenting evidence. The commenters are not taking the task of challenge ideas. They're trying to attack the people who presented them.

@politicalfoolishness7491

2 жыл бұрын

@@dranreb1118 Exactly

Pluto in Aquarius next 20 years.

In The Millions..

Isn't it nice when a husband and wife get to work together

@bidhrohi12

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. And Bret is a very good wife.

@jffryh

2 жыл бұрын

@@bidhrohi12 Heather is the wife. Why are you misgendering people

@bidhrohi12

2 жыл бұрын

@@jffryh Whose wife? Does Bret know?

@willmercury

2 жыл бұрын

@@jffryh Oh, lighten up; that was funny. "Misgender?" Creepy jargon alert!

Love all three of you - thank you for this. School utterly failed me, but I have found my path as an inventor in-spite of it.

Nich video

Uttar Pradesh

I though I'd hear some back and forth between the two regarding Bret's outspoken views and opinion on vaccines and treatment...I'm not mad, just disappointed.

@danielm5161

2 жыл бұрын

They just pander to an audience that wants to hear that.

@TOLLEYBT

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielm5161 Right... I suppose that's just your gut talking?

@electricmonk500

2 жыл бұрын

Bret and Heather will never take responsibility for their views on vaccines and treatment. They are just going to stop talking about it and pretend it never happened. They can't admit any mistake, well, they'll admit a mistake while claiming that it wasn't actually their mistake, you know, there were extenuating circumstances, etc. They're just narcissists.

4 minutes into him speaking with Bret and Heather, I would make the argument that he definitely didn’t read the book.

@TheShootist

2 жыл бұрын

there is only one "t" in Bret

@rick15666

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheShootist edited to fix, thanks

Its weird seeing them talking about something thats actually in their wheelhouse

@mattturner5429

2 жыл бұрын

Did you know that people can form their own educated opinions on subjects without getting PhDs in those subjects? And did you know that even "experts" can be mistaken/corrupt? Just because some "experts" tell you to do something doesn't mean you should surrender your ability to think critically. Never forget: Every media source today (and maybe always throughout history) has some degree of politically motivated agenda, and never forget that all events, including the appearance of a new virus, can (will) be politicized, weaponized, and distorted so certain individuals can gain power.

@doseferatu

2 жыл бұрын

They call their analyses as being "through an Evolutionary lense" because everything they talk about is analysed that way. When you say "outside their wheelhouse" you're referring to their COVID stances, but the main claims they have made pertain to their wheelhouse.

@ryrez4478

2 жыл бұрын

lol

These guys make a lot of sense

My god this is the worst comment section iv seen in a while. Good job folks your successfully lowering the bar even further. lul

It's only a matter of time before something creepy comes out about Bret.

@f10mrh

2 жыл бұрын

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I used to listen to their show all the time - the first 40-50 episodes. Then they went all ivermectin-y and vaccine "questioning". Both are deal breakers for me, so I left them behind. D.A., J.D., NYC

@fatslapper49

2 жыл бұрын

@Bob Charles ROFL that you think these two are actual skeptics. Blind leading the blind!

@rick15666

2 жыл бұрын

They actually dropped that whole thing like a lead balloon. I agree there were several episodes that were wayyy to heavy on the ivermectin thing (to spread awareness about potentially life-saving information that was underreported), they had an episode get banned from KZread, it was a whole thing. Then, like a flip of a switch, not a peep about it OR vaccines, to the point where if a PAID question comes across to them, they’ll read the question, and won’t answer it (example: should I get the vaccine because xyz?), they just say sorry there’s a lot of factors and we’re not going to be making recommendations on that.

@robertschriek1353

2 жыл бұрын

Same thing happened to me, don’t understand how they got into that rabbithole, now I wonder if i can take the rest of what they say seriously. Shame since i do find the evolution angle very interesting and have actually bought this book!

@ryrez4478

2 жыл бұрын

@@rick15666 they should be correcting their misinformation instead of dropping the subject entirely.

@rick15666

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertschriek1353 I too have bought their book, it’s on my bed now (preordered). I actually bought the audiobook version as well, after learning the authors read it, and remembering that I don’t read books. Much prefer to listen. Lazy I guess. Only made through 3 or 4 chapters. It’s good, but I wish the read slower. Reminds me of reading philosophy, or physics, there’s SO much crammed into just a handful of sentences, I could ponder every couple paragraphs, take time to digest it. I don’t really have an answer to that other than to pause it often, listen to it more than once (which will be a must for me anyway, I tend to tune out here and there), or, having it in book form, might be nice to follow along and get a chance to see and profess the paragraphs. Not sure what my point is with this comment other than to say I’m a huge fan of theirs, I think what they have to say is largely well-read and important, and despite the brief ivermectin rabbit hole, like the “Unity” 3rd part candidate idea Brett had, they’re worth a second look at their podcast. And hell, their book is literally a decade in the making, and these are some smaaart folks, so I think if you read the book, you’d get a lot out of it. Just my opinion though. Huge fan of Brett’s brother Eric as well. Near Genius-level, the both of them, if you ask me. Heather is also on another level. Just pop on any podcast some time and see for yourself. I always come away from them 1. learning something, 2. gaining diverse perspectives allowing me to question the status quo, or identifying a blind spot of mine, or my own logical fallacies. Best wishes

I think you are all way overthinking the porn. It is natural, and the market (when it used to function before the 'e-Public good (my term) failure by the free-rider/free copy problem) caters for all. It is like drama/action TV and movies and most music lyrics and the like; it is not real, it is art. If you live like you watch and read you would be very odd, and lonely.

You need to read the Antifederalist Papers, which is the lifeline to the times we live in today. The spirit of the Federalist Papers (centralization of power) is what led us here.

Circa 28:00 I don't get what's the difference between porn and high-calorie food. Seems to be an awful of Jerry Falwell-style moral shaming going on today regarding porn, without much real cause other than "eewwww, we disapprove". Just give people tools to moderate their consumption, don't make it forbidden, any more than cookies are forbidden.

@ChollieD

2 жыл бұрын

Also, there's an awful lot of vanilla sex out there in porn-world. I'm again unconvinced that this needs more regulation than does (unhealthy) fast food.

@josephpatterson2513

2 жыл бұрын

I thought he was being inconsistent on that topic as well.

@DivertingTales

2 жыл бұрын

Where did they say porn should be illegal? They said it isn’t good for you just like junk food and should be avoided.

Shermer, it's pronounced W(einstein) NOT winesteen

@thetruthwillsetyoufree9209

2 жыл бұрын

Dr. Shermer to you

*4:30** T_T no1 ever buys me dinner.* - JC

Look at all these skeptical people criticizing the skeptics with PhDs. This podcast and especially its viewers are rather fragile and pathetic.

@bidhrohi12

2 жыл бұрын

Appeal to Authority Fallacy. You're easily duped by cheap jargon. I'd ask you to read the actual criticisms of Bret and Heather, but clearly you don't read.

@polderrican

2 жыл бұрын

@@bidhrohi12 yawn. I dont really even care for bret, but its obvious that the fact hes completely disregarded by the MSM and every lefty academic or lol "skeptic" youtuber can't judge this man's findings on the merits shows hes onto something.. And authority fallacy coming from the kids who watch this show?? Lol ok guy.

@polderrican

2 жыл бұрын

@@bidhrohi12 your comment is 3 assumptions none grounded in reality, try again

@infinitemonkey917

2 жыл бұрын

But I'm skeptical of his claims that Ivermectin is good for covid and vaccines are dangerous. He is a Biologist but he isn't a physician, epidemiologist, physiologist or pharmaceutical chemist. So he has some credentials on the subject but he is not an expert.

@ninjaskeleton6140

2 жыл бұрын

The whole skeptic movement is pathetic, all they do is parrot orthodoxy.

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Why is it a problem if Southern States ban abortion, unless you live in one of these States I don't understand what the problem is. And if you do live in one of those States, move. If you can't move, address whatever is holding you back, and move. It would seem to make more sense for the minority of people who disagree with the majority of a State to leave instead of having the Federal government force something like abortions on an entire population whose majority opposes it. It wouldn't just be the South banning it, but you would also probably see States where they each decide varying term limits, so the creeps in Virginia can do post-birth abortions again if they like, and you could choose a community that is closer to your own personal beliefs, rather than this black and white, all or nothing, left and right false bill of goods we are sold every 4 years.

@oliviamaynard9372

2 жыл бұрын

Cause civil rights don't work like that

@dakkagaming671

2 жыл бұрын

@@oliviamaynard9372 You don't have a right to elective medical procedures, they are considered a privilege that is subject to laws and regulations, availability, affordability, etc. You don't even have a right to be guaranteed birth control, but only the right to be guaranteed that organizations can exist that offer affordable birth control and contraceptives, and upon a doctor's recommendation you can receive a prescription for said birth control. You have the right to not be denied life-saving treatment in an emergency situation, but even that is conditionally interpreted. You have the right to not be discriminated over immutable characteristics such a race, sex, age, gender, religion, etc, when it comes to being considered for such medical interventions, however that doesn't guarantee unconditional access to such things. If Texas wants to ban abortion, it is for the citizens of Texas to decide, and it is not the responsibility of the other States to influence or interfere with another State's legislative process or decisions. To be honest it isn't any of your business anyway, so again I ask why does it matter? It doesn't effect those outside of Texas, so just leave Texas if it is a problem.Texas isn't imposing abortion bans on the other States, their laws only effect their territory, so pro-choice activists are just going have to deal with it and set up shop somewhere else, there isn't any room left for discussion. You can claim sexism or misogyny or whatever trendy slogans and stances all you want, people are tired of the Left's authoritarian claims of morale supremacy, they no longer care when you cry "wolf!" instead they mock and ridicule your narcissism and fragility.

@oliviamaynard9372

2 жыл бұрын

@@dakkagaming671 We have a right to body autonomy and property or we don't have rights at all. If one can't evict an intruder in their body they aren't free. This is called equal protection under the law and states do not have the right to beprive basic liberty. Also, yeah you have the right to pay for medical care silly.

@oliviamaynard9372

2 жыл бұрын

@@dakkagaming671 I live in Houston. I am talking about my own liberty under the constitution. Texas has no constitutional right to violate individual liberty in violation of equal protection.

@dakkagaming671

2 жыл бұрын

@@oliviamaynard9372 Intruder, quite the loaded term. Conflating property rights and bodily autonomy is shortsighted and dangerous as it will lead to unforeseen consequences that I feel you haven't properly taken a moment to appreciate. Have you ever heard of eminent domain? It is part of the 5th amendment and outlines the government's ability to take private land, and convert it for public use, as long as they properly compensate the owner. They also get to decide what exactly qualifies as _proper_ compensation. Just food for thought. Putting that aside for a moment, neither the 5th amendments due process clause or the 14th amendments equal protection clause offers the sort of protection you might think it does, because I think you are conflating what are sometimes known as "negative" and "positive" rights. Negative and positive don't mean good or bad, but describe polar opposites of a spectrum used to describe the varying degrees of severity for rights, how they are rankordered, the application of this ordering upon greater society, and whether or not any of these actions are justified or mandatory. Negative rights are what would be called unalienable, universal, or natural rights. The right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which don't need justification as they are widely considered prima facie. Positive rights are rights requiring ethical analysis and are subject to law. Abortion is a positive right, one that isn't subject to the equal protections clause of the 14th amendment. So no, it doesn't matter what other States do, Texas can do what it wants regarding abortions. We are the 50 United, Independent, States. The beauty of that, is that if you don't agree with Texas, move somewhere that is more in line with your personal beliefs. If the majority of the population disagrees with you, they are under no obligation to appease your beliefs as an individual, so move to a place that doesn't have to appease you because they already agree with you. As for having the right to pay for medical care, when you pay for something in return for a service, that is a transaction, not a right. The right is that they can't refuse giving you life-saving treatment if they are able to, it isn't a right to have to pay for medical care, that is insane.

Delegation. Bad.

One word... IvErMeCtIn?

Not a fan of the interviewer

The name of the channel is Skeptic, and yet, this couple is spreading bs about Covid. Funny.

*dark horse podcast is a lot of fun hey.* i mean your one is fine. everyone needs a podcast, or no one can take them srsly. at least 1. i feel like ive watched you grow up sheermer. it's good.

No time to watch at the moment but was there any critique of the guests’ overuse of adaptationism or even mention of their pseudoscientific claims around their fav miracle drug for covid?

Subjective/objective perspective necessitates a “faith based” reality. No way around it. Call biology or science what you want, all knowledge is faith based. Empiricism is not possible.

@MrGrumpyGills

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, that might be the case in your parallel dimension. Here, in reality, there actually is empiricism. Example: It's not necessary to believe in gravity for it to exist. It can be proven without a doubt.

Heather and Bret do not invite people who disagree with their interpretations. They block Twitter uses who critique their arguments. They only go on shows that praise them. So we KNOW they only agreed to go on Shermer's show if assured he wouldn't challenge them on their ivermectin misinformation campaign. And he demonstrably agreed. He's lost all credibility as a skeptic. He's just another hypocrite who is great at remembering rationality and skepticism when it comes to his enemy.

@martifingers

2 жыл бұрын

@Singularity That may or may not be true but are Rebels' substantial criticisms accurate?

"In humans we call it gender". No, you call it gender lol i am totally fine with sex roles.

@EMO_alpha

2 жыл бұрын

@C K How do you mean?

@EMO_alpha

2 жыл бұрын

@C K Gender is essentially a meaningless category. And the word gender doesn't even make sense the way it has meaning ascribed to it. I think the entire gender construct thing is a non starter. There is sex and then there are sexed roles. Besides that its all silly religademic woo woo.

@EMO_alpha

2 жыл бұрын

@C K Well.. I don't believe in gender so an adult female human. With some leighway for age and context but definitely restrict to the biological female sex. Do trans women exist? Yeah i guess. But its kind of like asking if indigo children exist. I mean i guess .. but only within a specific ideological lens. I think an adult should be able to do whatever they want for the most part. But you can't force language on me that presupposes a religion/faith/ideology i don't subscribe to. I am not a post modernist. just like i would never let you make me call masturbating a "sin". That is language that presupposes an ideological doctrine.

@EMO_alpha

2 жыл бұрын

@C K I didn't see this one earlier. No not everything is reducible to biological factors, but sex is by definition a biological category. And i believe in free will. You taking my words and drawing conclusions that are outside what i am saying.

@EMO_alpha

2 жыл бұрын

@C K Yes, your wrong. You asked my definition of women later. I said style, persona, and personality in reference to words that better categorize what is usually labeled as gender.

I don't get it .... on DH #97, Bret and Heather said Shermer/Skeptic fanboyz (and critics of B&H) came out in doves to chastise Shermer for having such "anti-vaxxers" and anti-establishment guests on Skeptic. But I see mostly positive comments ... and far more LIKES than DISLIKES in this video. WTF are they yappin' about? Ah ... it's the drama factor ... JUICY!!

@iangoddard5915

2 жыл бұрын

Ya, I'm scrolling and scrolling and not seen one negative comment yet. But I see lots of comments about "all the negative comments." Huh?! So it tends to seem like the negative comments vanished.

"We barely remember governance that isn't fully malignant" WTF is Bret talking about? I thought Shermer was a sceptic

I was expecting a divorce halfway through this!

@pallab1234

2 жыл бұрын

lol

I am quite frankly embarrassed on your behalf. You're an advocate of scientific rigor and the publisher of Skeptic magazine and you are entertaining these two conspiracist circus clowns?

These people are clever Bubble People Never take advice from Bubble People

I've followed you as long as Sam Harris and others going back to the Beyond Belief 2006 conference, this interview was a fucking disgrace

@alaskansummertime

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like someone needs a nap.

@kieranspalding8553

2 жыл бұрын

Sir you need to calm down

@guitardeez

2 жыл бұрын

why?

What is there obsession with "the religous"? Hahaha get out of your straw house guys your smarter than that. Even the Westboro friggin Baptist family all have law degrees and the father was a civil rights dude.

They don’t deserve this platform after propagating such irresponsible misinformation. Disappointing Shermer…

@mattturner5429

2 жыл бұрын

Seeing as this is Shermer's show and therefore his platform, looks like they do deserve it.

@bidhrohi12

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattturner5429 In which case, he doesn't deserve an audience who takes him selling himself as a skeptic, seriously.

@bidhrohi12

2 жыл бұрын

@Bob Charles On behalf of Jesus, I tell thee you can listen and watch whatever you want. But I'm not obliged to respect anyone who listens to these people and don't see the grift.

@gb7418

2 жыл бұрын

If I owned their book I’d burn it - like I burned my copy of Harry Potter once I saw what was going on in that story.

@jimharrop9818

2 жыл бұрын

@@gb7418 What did you see?