Using hydrogen to run ICE is really great 👌

Given the sort of heavy machinery that JCB builds, EVs simply aren't powerful enough to cut the mustard. This is part of the reason why they have developed the hydrogen combustion engine. Hydrogen is the long term answer.

H2 has been available the entire time. The most plentiful energy source in the entire universe... And it is renews itself...

@mb-3faze

9 ай бұрын

Did Jesus tell you that? 'Cos last time I checked Jesus was neither a scientist nor an engineer. Hydrogen gas is profoundly rare on Earth. In our solar system, God has put nearly all the molecular hydrogen in the Sun (a sensible place), far away from Earth's atmosphere where it has a habit of reacting explosively with the very gas His children enjoy breathing.

@whocares264

9 ай бұрын

you do of course know that you need to extract hydrogen , are you sure it is the most plentiful energy source in the universe...

@timothyterrell1658

9 ай бұрын

@@mb-3faze there is a reason for hydrogen gas not being around. It combines with oxygen very freely making...water. Look around,we have water all over the place. If you release hydrogen it will find itself some oxygen very quickly. That is what happened to the Hindenburg. They had a leak.💥😵🙄

I do HOPE it's hydrogen/electric--- with hydrogen operating the electric motors on each wheel like trains. That would gove FAR more mileage, longer wear, moire power, and much less fuel used at all and the ONLY output being WATER.

Finally I stopped the video as it is more a blatend commercial for JCB then an actual review of balanced pro's and cons of hydrogen as fuel. I could have know within the first 4 seconds of the video as there already a misconception is launched but I wanted to give the maker some slack. Hydrogen as meant these days is not a energy "source". It is a transport method for energy. Hydrogen has to be made using energy. So it is only green energy when it is made by environmentally friendly sources like solar panels and wind or water turbines.

@IMGreg..

Жыл бұрын

And you're point is? The objective is zero emissions at the tailpipe. JCB is a company so of course like Tesla they're promoting their achievement. JCB makes heavy industrial equipment that needs to be decarbonized and batteries can't solve their unique problem. Their Hydrogen "Diesel" engine can be the answer for immediate change to industries that want to go green but have no alternative. Ships, trains, tanks, trucks, dozers, excavator, farm equipment, mining equipment, and diesel electric generators all have duty cycles that can't be serviced with batteries. So your complaint is what, that they were first to do something about it or how they mischaracterised the function of hydrogen? Gas, Diesel or Hydrogen all require the use of energy to make, refineries aren't run on magic. They received no government money, they're not known to the consumer market and need to promote to sell but their customer base is small so a mass ad campaign won't be economical. Name one thing you buy that isn't advertised, even vegetables make the weekly flyers. They'll use their dealers and sales reps and trade magazines but the potential for their technology goes far beyond their typical market. It takes content providers to seek them out and inform John Q Public on what they are doing. When was the last time you saw an International Harvester ad on TV 1970 what? They don't use TV because their buyers are working during the day, probably get up during evening commercials and they need more 15 to 30 seconds to sell their products.

@computerjantje

Жыл бұрын

@@IMGreg.. My point is that an advertsiment video is not the good place to gain information about something as there is no balance. For some reason Americans lost that concept completely as they are so used to commercials that even videos presenting as informational videos are received as 'normal' while the only goal of the video is selling a product.

@namesurname4385

10 ай бұрын

And how environmentally dirty is the battery manufacturing process?

@griffint6637

10 ай бұрын

Hydrogen can be made fairly easily with gen IV nuclear reactors

@computerjantje

10 ай бұрын

@@griffint6637 nuclear power is not environment friendly. It is a blatent lie. The waist is stored underground in the "hope" it will not leak radiation within 30.000 years. I have seen seldom a more stupid deny of safety as storing nuclear waist in concrete underground and just hope it will stay closed. Hydrogen should be made by solar power, wind power, hydro power but not with nuclear power

Hydrogen power is also a way of retaining a real car (i.e. with a proper engine rather than a battery operated 'E vehicle ') for motoring enthusiasts

@mb-3faze

9 ай бұрын

A hydrogen vehicle is an even better way to die in an accident compared to a standard friction engine vehicle. A fossil fuel leak and combustion will give you plenty of time to realize you're going to die, where as with hydrogen, you will be with your maker in the blink of an eye (along with unfortunate bystanders - to whom you will, for all of eternity, have to apologize, for your ill-considered transportation fuel of choice).

@timothyterrell1658

9 ай бұрын

@@mb-3faze finally! Somebody with atleast a small amount of good sense. You have just proved you have more then that. Now if we could persuade others that just because someone can do something it doesn't mean that they should do something Like that accident they had with the demon core and a screwdriver. That was really stupid.

@KKandEV

9 ай бұрын

That’s BS… you would not be able to do anything modding wise or to make it go faster. You will have zero control.

@namesurname4385

9 ай бұрын

@@KKandEV Still a proper ICE car always better than battery powered

@neilburns8869

5 ай бұрын

It is.

What do you think of JCB's Hydrogen Engine?

@IMGreg..

Жыл бұрын

The possibilities are enormous beyond their core business if it configurable for other manufactured equipment. Trains, tanks, ships, grid electric generators, portable electric generators, trucks, harvesters. Their engine technology could be an entirely separate wing if it is adaptable. Imagine being able to go after Cummins with a rival hydrogen engine. But they better move fast. lol

@painting_parlour

10 ай бұрын

Great

@namesurname4385

10 ай бұрын

Hydrogen power is also a way of retaining a real car (i.e. with a proper engine rather than a battery operated 'E vehicle ') for motoring enthusiasts

@timothyterrell1658

9 ай бұрын

A brilliant engine design....and a really stupid fuel choice. Hydrogen is a very unstable fuel source. Prone to catastrophic detonation. Try building a car around a surplus 500 pound bomb (with the TNT still in it) then add the impact fuse just for fun... how's that going over. Add a few thousand more to the picture.🤨💣💥🪦

@timothyterrell1658

9 ай бұрын

@@IMGreg.. diesel fuel is a very stable fuel source. Hydrogen on the other hand is an extremely unstable fuel source. That alone is reason enough to never use hydrogen for motor vehicle use.

Stan Meyers would be happy.

If you believe that, you'll believe the moons made of cheese, with Elvis living in a bus thereon.

Used to laugh about putting water in our cars then , electrolysis was worked on, burning the hydrogen works but from water the oxygen gets dumped but i wonder if it could be route also to the engine so no need for air-intake and no nitrogen then no nox ??

No it will not. After the first explosion they will get rid. It’s also way behind Electricity when it comes to personal transportation. It might survive as only a fuel for very large plant vehicles (expensive) or to create Electricity .

This technology will dry up the Mother Earth. Same as what we see in futuristic movies.

@timothyterrell1658

9 ай бұрын

That's the only thing that won't happen ,as hydrogen burning recombines with the same amount of oxygen as it had before as water. They call it new water, because it is vertually new water.

6-stroke, diesel based, H2 fueled ceramic engine...

I think it would be much better than ev.

thermonuclear bomb, also called hydrogen bomb, or H-bomb, weapon whose enormous explosive power results from an uncontrolled self-sustaining chain reaction in which isotopes of hydrogen combine under extremely high temperatures to form helium in a process known as nuclear fusion.

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There are no 'fossil's' in fuel. Hydrogen is clean. Remember the guy in his dune buggy, running on water.? Using electrolisis.

Destroy the EV industry? There are currently 140,000 EV charging stations in the US. And 150,000 gas stations. MORE in Canada & Mexico. How many H fueling stations are there? California has the most with 17. And those were built by the state government. !

@mb-3faze

9 ай бұрын

16 now, in CA, now that the Bakersfield refueling station blew up (stranding all the other ill-considered, million dollar, busses).

@iainwares6361

9 ай бұрын

60,000 public chargers in the UK and over 30 million homes plus work premises. 12 hydroden stations. JCBs engine is for a niche of big machinery for operators who will need to have a Hydrogen storage facility. EVs are simple, cheap and getting cheaper. Vehicles with fewer and more reliable working parts. Why would anyone wabt a complex andd expensive 'new' ICE that you can't fuel? Why use energy to create hydrogen then transport it to distribution points of which tens of thousands would need to be built? Nonsense, Hydrogen engines aren't going to take over anything.

@mb-3faze

9 ай бұрын

@@iainwares6361 Exactly. There are now so many glossy, fossil fuel industry funded, videos being published now, all starting off with visions of wind turbines and PV panels and then the cut to a big shiny H2 container sitting in a field of grass. It's utter propaganda. The absurdity of using wind and PV electrons to create H2 (wastefully purified, compressed, cooled and transported for using in expensive precious metal fuel cells) or even worse, compressed and used in a ICE, is breathtaking. It needs to be called out every single time.

Hydrogen, the last desperate attempt to keep you going to the gas station FOREVER.

Yeah right ! hyperbole on steroids

yes it will its the future hydrogen no way electric can surply enough power to all electric vehicles

@EXSKIN

9 ай бұрын

And how much leccy do you need to make Hydrogen.

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I'm tempted to give a thumbs down for the lie in the click bait title. It will not destroy the EV industry, but it is an interesting use of hydrogen for niche applications like heavy machinery.

@namesurname4385

10 ай бұрын

Hydrogen power is also a way of retaining a real car (i.e. with a proper engine rather than a battery operated 'E vehicle ') for motoring enthusiasts

This will never fly until politicians get their cut...

Or not…

Time to buy stock n Hydrogen power , distribution, stations . Something!

Natural hydrogen “is in the pipeline,” and has a very real chance of reaching less than $1 per kilogram . At that price, the distribution infrastructure will be put in place.

ICE Engines ? They are done compared to Fully Electric motors ? Hundreds of moving parts that can brake compared to Electric only having 3 that are good for hundreds of thousands of miles no oil changes no spark plugs no airlifters . ?? Though There in my opinion a place for Hydrogen , to generate electricity to charge the batteries on EVs 🙂

@namesurname4385

10 ай бұрын

And how environmentally dirty is the EV battery manufacturing process? Hydrogen power is also a way of retaining a real car (i.e. with a proper engine rather than a battery operated 'E vehicle ') for motoring enthusiasts

@EXSKIN

9 ай бұрын

@@namesurname4385 Does it go broom broom like a V8, thought not.

@namesurname4385

9 ай бұрын

@@EXSKIN It depends, if the hydrogen combustion engine is in a V8 high capacity I can't see why not but the combustion is always better than a battery operated

@namesurname4385

9 ай бұрын

@BillBadMule Batteries are ideal for toy cars not for real world long term needs. Even so they need to be disposable otherwise your kid wil play for a few minutes and spend hours crying waiting for them to recharge!

First of all we want Hydrogen on Demand!! not government-controlled hydrogen fuel? We can make or own fuel as i drive one now and quite happy with it. I Save between 30-37% on fuel. with more technology this can be greatly increased. Hydrogen on demand kits are easy to install to any currant ICE's 🙂

@griffint6637

10 ай бұрын

But doesn’t hydrogen take more energy to produce than what you get in return as a fuel?

@mb-3faze

9 ай бұрын

It would be worth you looking into this. The answer will disappoint you but you'll learn a bunch of physics.

@timothyterrell1658

9 ай бұрын

Please keep that thing far far away from me!!!

@jerrypeal653

9 ай бұрын

Are you talking HHO ?

@jerrypeal653

9 ай бұрын

@@griffint6637 nope not necessarily, renewables like wind and solar can produce it .

Fuel cell is a better option. The hydrogen engine needs compressed gases, a leak, even a small leak is catastrophic-ie explosive! and they are putting this on construction equipment which are notorious for impacts and scrapes...Yeah, good call...

@wynoose66

9 ай бұрын

yep, because no equipment runs on compressed gas, except our forktrucks used in our Propane company that fills thousands of Propane cylinders per day. Good thing they don't power construction equipment, trucks or automobiles with that explosive gas or heat peoples houses with explosive gas.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 when the finally figure out just how to get Hydrogen for less energy put in to get it ! This is a promising idea but Destroy ??? Not likely But it’s good click bait! That is your goal right!!