HUGE DOMESTIC BATTERY STORAGE INSTALL - Electrician Life
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Join Jordan, Sam and Cory as they install a 11kWh Domestic Sonnen Eco Battery Storage System to enable our customer to store solar energy from their roof and use it at night when the sun is asleep! We previously installed 6KW of solar PV panels here and now this is the icing on the cake for them to have the full renewables package!
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00:00 Intro
01:10 Where the battery is going
02:01 Jordan and Sam get cracking
02:18 Discussing the U.K. energy crisis
04:09 Unboxing the battery
05:57 Mounting the wall plate
09:00 Adding the battery modules
11:20 Jordan’s lunch
11:59 Cinematic salad b-roll
12:44 What’s lunch like up north?
13:04 Dressing in the CT cables
14:22 Tool of the day - pass through RJ45 crimper
17:31 Cory planned ahead
17:55 Installing the Sonnen battery inverter
19:55 Configuring the inverter
21:08 The glow!
21:58 Sonnen configure assistant
22:46 Battery integration with MyEnergi Zappi
24:18 Testing the installation
24:39 Putting on the front cover
25:06 Job summary
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Excellent installation and explanation by sam.He's an absolute credit to his company, any customer would be very happy to see such a knowledgable and professional guy turn up on a job.
More battery installs please, especially what needs to be changed in the consumer board and what other important things you´d need to know.
@jimsouthlondon7061
2 жыл бұрын
Wait till it catches fires
@nigelmorse3909
2 жыл бұрын
Yes more installs please, as a retired sparky I would be interested in seeing them
@VenomInMahEyes
2 жыл бұрын
@@jimsouthlondon7061 really???!!! How many times your phone or laptop burned down because your battery burned down???!!!
@titmando1199
2 жыл бұрын
@@VenomInMahEyes tell that to Samsung I think it was the S9 that had that controversy where the batteries were faulty off the factory line and exploding in people hands and bags, KZread them. I agree with you though, batteries rarely do catch fire there are a lot of safety mechanisms built into them to prevent it, the only way its going to explode is if there is a design flaw or physical damage.
@VenomInMahEyes
2 жыл бұрын
@@titmando1199 It was Samsung Galaxy Note 7. The reason it exploded was because of the design flaw of that phone. Out of billions of phones in use, it is the only phone that caught fire because it wasn't designed properly and that is the reason it was recalled. That reply was for the guy who thinks every battery catches on fire. If you have a flaw in anything, that product does not last, just like Note 7.
It’s a few months since you posted this video but the intro chat about fuel costs is massively relevant! Great video guys.
@offgridmgtowhomestead2520
2 жыл бұрын
Just wait if our western leaders dont learn from their mistakes. Double down on stupid, and we get really stupid
Wiring is so clean compared to my nightmare system. I went diy, 58kw, 3 4p16s banks for 171kwhs. I have 2 - 12kw inverters, 8 scc, 2 400 amp breakers, 4 1000 amp bus bars in a 3 by 3 room. I think battery storage should be a priority for most installs.
Best part of this video seeing a sparky clean up his cable ends off the floor man that used to annoy me when installing kitchens 😂😂
There is a lot of cost and energy inefficiency in this system - 2 separate inverter systems and that Sonnen battery setup costs a fortune as it's designed for retrofit to an existing system. If you knew the customer wanted to add a battery system later it would have been far more cost efficient to install a good hybrid inverter upfront, of which you could directly link batteries to with far less complexity, cost and space requirements. This Sonnen system is for retrofit to existing PV systems, and has it's own 2 way inverter. You have a setup here now where you get PV DC energy, convert it to 240v AC, then Sonnen system converts it back from 240v AC to DC to store in batteries, then converts it back from DC to 240v AC when needed. Each conversion stage, especially DC->AC->DC, has an efficiency loss, and just generates heat. A hybrid inverter would have just taken the PV DC and done a single efficient, DC-DC voltage conversion for battery storage and not actually feed the grid tie with excess power as AC. On top of that there is more expense and complexity as you require all those current probes and metering systems for it to work out what power it can grab from the grid tie. I bet no calculations have been done on total system efficiency when you are using PV energy stored for later use from this in-out-in-out (shake it all about) system. There is going to be at least a 10% efficiency power loss, possibly more....and no doubt £1000's in upfront financial costs vs hybrid inverter and simpler direct connect battery.
@munirshafi2647
5 ай бұрын
Yes but with a hybrid setup you could never get the high levels of discharge into the house that an ac coupled system in conjunction with a battery would give you. Can be up 6kw battery plus pv.
Great video. I did notice it looks like there is even a spot to store the handles for the inverter on the side of the inverter. Nice touch.
Oh god, he said glass heads again. Triggers the network tech inside me 😂
@jondonnelly4831
2 жыл бұрын
There should be a short course for electricians to learn basic networking. The amount of new builds with coax, phone and alarm run all over the place but no cat6a is alarming.
@timwoodhams958
2 жыл бұрын
@@jondonnelly4831 I agree. Trouble is, if the customer has no idea what they’re going to want in the future, how do you decide what cables to run where? Currently if they have no specific requirements I run 1x cat 5 to each tv point and if it’s a bigger house run in a couple of cat 5s for ceiling mounted access points
@jondonnelly4831
2 жыл бұрын
@@timwoodhams958 I think that is a really good plan. I'd fit a poe switch and call it sorted. Cat6a is higher guage and can deliver more power as well as bandwidth. 40Gb is extremely well future proofed.
@joshuapowell4132
2 жыл бұрын
@@jondonnelly4831 I 100% agree as well, in my head technology/networking and electric’s are very similar so a short course would be excellent. Nothing beats a cable to this day. I have a saying, if it moves it uses WiFi, if it’s static it’s cabled
@shilks8773
2 жыл бұрын
@@timwoodhams958 Shouldn't you be thinking of running at least Cat6 now ?
Thanks very much for a very helpful and informative video. I’m getting my Sonnen 16.5kw battery installed in October after waiting over a year from ordering it. I’m sure it will save me a lot of money but your videos are so reassuring.
Very professional installation with highly knowledgeable techs. Enthusiastic and competent work practices. Joy to watch.
great install guys Sam , Jordan and Cory
its refreshing to see some high quality technicians. Good install fellas. Great thinking about how to setup the EV charger.
@Lanfang_Technology
Жыл бұрын
Hello friend, we are a lithium iron phosphate battery factory from China. If you are interested in cooperation, please let me know. We are looking for distributors in various countries around the world.
We just had a Tesla Powerwall 2 installed with our Solar Edge inverter and 6.4kW solar with DC Load Optimisers. It's interesting to see the differences, in particular this seems to integrate the power management whereas the Tesla system has a Gateway box for that.
Did a similar instillation years ago using old traction batteries from a forklift truck , they worked fine for about six years & were still working even when I splashed out on two massive 6v batteries from rolls
@Lanfang_Technology
Жыл бұрын
Hello friend, we are a lithium iron phosphate battery factory from China. If you are interested in cooperation, please let me know. We are looking for distributors in various countries around the world.
Sam Featherstone is the bomb when it comes to solar and batteries for the home. ❤ love it guys!
Awesome battery unit. Superb installation 😃👌👌👏👏👏
Blimey Jordan it is a lot to learn about solar battery installations looks very complex indeed good video keep safe bye for now michael
I set Zappi to eco+ for day solar excess, then schedule charge overnight if required, but set batteries to charge at same time so not to discharge to car but also covers low sun for day use.
The irony is that it is better off people who go for these things and save money. I only heard of this idea to day and will be looking into it tomorrow. Watching this just shows how talented these people are.
@andriikolesnyk279
Жыл бұрын
It will take those "early adopters" a couple of decades to pay off the price of equipment and the installation price. Please also note that the battery also degrades from time as well as from charging cycles.
Great job good to see Sam again.
Great to see some of the your more interesting installs.
Excellent video.. very interesting indeed. Thank you.
Those two handles goes to the top of the unit (those four holes on the top of battery "Brain").
Finale more solar and especialy battery storage 😎🤩💪 Please make a follow-up video of the settings for my energy and Sonnen to work effecience together 🙏
That is a nice little crimp tool! Might have to add it to my collection, haha. It's the most frustrating thing when you try to cut the cores off straight and it's everso slightly wonkey and they end up not going all the way to the end so you have to start over.
The UK is massively committed to renewables, way more than we should be and we've shunned nuclear which has left us dangerously exposed (luckily the government seems to have now figured this out). The truth of what happened last month is we don't have nearly enough gas storage in the UK so medium-sized spikes in wholesale prices feed through to consumers very very quickly. Looks a nice system with the backup addon for if grid power goes down.
@nigelparkin
2 жыл бұрын
These kind of systems normally won't operate if there is no voltage on the grid for safety reasons.
@z00h
2 жыл бұрын
@@nigelparkin That's not the case anymore. There are options which allow these systems to kick in during power outages.
@bigmacntings7451
Жыл бұрын
@@nigelparkin wrong. This sonnen system, and the tesla will automatically change to backup battery plus inverter once the grid "beat" is not detected. What you are describing is a weakness of the grid tie inverter. there is a cable to synchronise the inverter output to the mains supply. if the mains supply phase is absent,the inverter completely shuts of as a safety measure,,,,2 reasons being that you don't want to be sending electricity back out of phase(your equipment will be getting 400v instead of 230v and will catch fire)), and you don't want your systems still live should the power network guys need to fix in your area.
A quick thought, for cheap energy storage from solar. You can get hot water immersion heater diverter using excess energy from solar; but it requires a hot water tank with immersion heater of course. This allows you to divert excess electrical energy from solar into heated hot water with good efficiency, and with a capital cost about £300. You get about 8 kWh of energy storage and means you can turn off a gas boiler in summer - no electric pump checking for demand - no pilot light. I would certainly recommend this cheap route to store excess solar energy before installing batteries.
@shilks8773
2 жыл бұрын
The days of Combi boilers having a pilot light are long since gone. Auto ignition on demand. The sooner Hydrogen gets put into the Gas Mains the better. Get rid of the current "Natuaral" Gas and remove all the CO2.
@Tom55data
2 жыл бұрын
@@shilks8773 1) By definition it cannot be a combi boiler has you require a hot water tank. 2) The discussion on removal of gas from homes has a interesting issue associated with it. CCGT for electricity generation is around 35% efficient, by law a gas boiler is >95% efficient. Which do you think the government should concentrate of getting rid of first ! 3) Replacing home heating with hydrogen is stupid since the government is pushing for blue hydrogen (the rest of the world calls this brown hydrogen). Brown hydrogen comes from petrol production - about 95% of all hydrogen is created by the petroleum industry. So you can see why hydrogen is being pushed so hard - it retains the status quo. Of course, you will argue, you will use green hydrogen (from water splitting), but that is not that efficient, and getting governments to not be lobbied by the oil industry to recolour brown hydrogen as blue hydrogen will be "difficult". Careful what you wish for, and be careful for the actually efficiencies of production and storage in the push for "green-washed" energy.
@johnwarwick4105
Жыл бұрын
Had mine for a good 10 years heats all the hot water in summer. Very rare that the boiler kicks in. Even installed a second cylinder for more storage. Such a shame most houses use combi boilers now. If gas stays high it would be worth putting a pressurised cylinder in the loft if you have solar on your house
For the ethernet CAT cables...I use the "B" color order as well for my local intranet and internet cabling. I was an early adopter and use the EZ-RJ45 connectors & crimping tool from Platinum Tools...really good quality crimper! The cover panel on your system looks awesome...really nice install :)
@thomasbonse
2 жыл бұрын
The specs were supposed to be 568A for residential and 568B for business. And you only really needed to use both for a crossover cable before MDI-X. Now, if there's existing cabling, match the existing installation standard for the site, either A or B. If it's completely new, just build out using the B wiring standard. Also, when using shielded twisted-pair, the cable ends need to be the shielded variety (metal).
@gregorythomas333
2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasbonse I only use 568B...the cables & connectors are both shielded.
@thomasbonse
2 жыл бұрын
@@gregorythomas333 The point about matching the existing site standard is so that the site is consistent. This way you're sure to not inadvertently introduce a crossover cable that will only work at 10/100 or cause someone else to do so in the future, if a jack needs to be replaced. Of you're going to reterminate all if the existing jacks too, then by all means, change the site standard to 568B. Just don't mix standards at a single installation site.
@gregorythomas333
2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasbonse Ummm...I'm not changing anything...I said that I use "B" for both my intranet & internet cabling.
Amazing Job looks great!
Oh man how i wish you lads were in France... Cheers for the great content
I'm working on installing my sonnen core right now. Hopefully I have everything done and can get the inspection this week. I really want to get my panels turned on! Thanks for the install video. Good to see more than just the book before I go do my own.
Wow seeing Jordan get warm enough to take off his jacket..
An interesting and informative video. A smart ( in all senses ) installation
@Lanfang_Technology
Жыл бұрын
Hello friend, we are a lithium iron phosphate battery factory from China. If you are interested in cooperation, please let me know. We are looking for distributors in various countries around the world.
It would be really helpful if you gave even a ballpark figure for how much an installation like this would cost.
@coolmonkey619
2 жыл бұрын
Came straight to say this. Glad I'm not the only one. Perhaps another electrician could
@gino2465
2 жыл бұрын
I would love to know what this system cost. Don't get me wrong if I had the money I would have it, but I know it would not pay back the original investment made for many years then the issues of failures after warranty periods. More costs added then to original costs that most people don't acvount for.
@stevelongden7368
2 жыл бұрын
I saw a video recently (EVM) who had an 8.2kwh battery fitted for a total cost, inc battery, of circa £3,900. Hope that helps
@gino2465
2 жыл бұрын
@@stevelongden7368 that's not a bad price.
@gino2465
2 жыл бұрын
@@stevelongden7368 in the new year I am going to try a d invest in fork lift battery's but 4 packs at 48 volts. If I make it lol
Must be the first time ive ever seen a sparky clean up their clippings! ... come to think of it clean up at all! haha looks ace good job
Excellent video. Thank you.👍👍👍
Sam is supper awesome he defo knows his stuff
Never seen those CAT5 passthrough heads before, great idea!
@G7OEA
2 жыл бұрын
They are a little more costly than the regular rj45 but the wastage due to bad wiring in the plugs soon makes up for it. plus with the wire sticking out of the end of the plug you can verify the wiring before you crimp. Very handy when you have to make a non standard cable.
@Lewdacris916
2 жыл бұрын
pass through RJ-45 connectors are the way to go, they are so much faster than regular ones. you dont have to worry about getting the wires trimmed to the perfect length, or cutting them too short and starting over.
Cut the cat6 cable at a diagonal it makes it a bit easier to install in the the rj45
A and B are completely interchangeable, as long as you do both ends the same. B has slightly better crosstalk rejection, so it’s preferable, and it is what most people use. You should also always measure your cables, preferably with a certification tester, to verify that everything is correct, as you might have gotten a dodgy roll of cable, water ingress etc. Also, it’s a good idea to add a strain relief boot to the connectors when crimping them. And it’s not called a glass head, it’s an 8P8C connector, in layman’s terms it’s called an RJ45 connector.
@G7OEA
2 жыл бұрын
Love it when sparks try to do data. If any contactor came on any of my sites to install data cables and called an RJ45 a glass head they would be off site. I have been known to follow behind them with my cable tester and test random cables.
@johnratcliffe6438
2 жыл бұрын
@@G7OEA Those long winter nights must fly by in Liverpool Phil.
@G7OEA
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnratcliffe6438 they do indeed.
@Lewdacris916
2 жыл бұрын
Do you actually work out in the field? Whats your profession? you sound like a desk jockey lol
@henkondemand
Жыл бұрын
@@G7OEA I'm always surprised how contractors will not test data cabling. I wouldn't be able to leave a site without proper testing of everything I install.
Nice install, looks great. would be good if you could do a follow up in 12 months if the customer is willing...
Great video production quality guys. Maybe add some bacon to that B Roll!
For rj45 crimping I like to remeber them as a song ( orang white/ orange, green white/ blue ,blue white /green, brown white/ brown ) if say it few times you will always remember them after that.
I use 2 ev chargers at my property and my nissan is the 62 kw battery so one charger is only used for solar with 2 seperate leads one limited to 2.8 kw for winter use and another the full. Out put. So to save confusion its easier to have 2 leads rather than keep having to go to settings to change output, the other ev charger is used solly for economy 7 charging and normal if I need to. I will be adding another ev charger for second car but both will use solar charger in summer. Free charging in summer using solar is fantastic.
Your information is good and useful
Yeah we are all trying to get systems in place to lessen the blow - I will be in contact with you soon to arrange something for us
Glasshead 😂 … adorable 😋
Reason we can't go 'All Solar, Wind etc' Is the kinetic energy needed in turbines , when theirs a requirement for more power you can speed up or slow down, you can't do that with "Renewables", Which is why we should invest in Nuclear more, cleaner than Gas/Coal, more reliable than all the others and safer in almost every aspect.
@the_real_hislordship
2 жыл бұрын
You can't just speed up a generator. Then you go beyond the grid 50Hz.
@OvalRenewables
2 жыл бұрын
Battery storage will help to balance this out. There isn’t one answer to the energy transfer however my personal opinion is that we should be cautious with nuclear due to the waste and risks if it all goes wrong.
Hope their Internet security is well looked after!
The cat5 A wiring standard is used almost exclusively in US Government networks. Everyone else uses B
@cereliafeiyin2560
2 жыл бұрын
Not B but E.
@elminster8149
2 жыл бұрын
@@cereliafeiyin2560 What? It's definitely B.
@shilks8773
2 жыл бұрын
@@cereliafeiyin2560 Your confusing Cat5e wit the A / B wiring scheme for the Ethernet plugs/RJ45's.
What a great system. I know every home is different but what sort of ball park figure?
Not sure if I missed it, but how much was the complete kit and install? Waiting for the new double garage to be built and will have a system put in c/W battery. This is mainly to cut down out electric bill and be a selling point for the house in the future. Can this system have a wind turbine attached? Very windy where I live. Great informative video this one, I watched the first then popped across to this one. Very neat job.
Lol I'm literally waiting for parts to come in to fix a Sonnen that's burned up inside I was called to. Sonnen sent me the parts to fix melted part, but that's not what's broken. They just don't want to hear it. Sonnen is like the Bentley of batteries.
Great video! If you can’t get a cat cable back to the utility meter for grid ct can you use a Lora transmitter?
Interesting video. The question it always seems to come back to is how much do battery units cost and how long would that money last if you just paid for power at the higher rate. Would it be cost effective to charge batteries on low night rate electricity and use in the day time if you had enough batteries or couldn't charge fully by solar. Unfortunately solar companies just seem to want to jump on any one showing an interest :( looked good though.
And I’ll supply you with all the tea/coffee and outstanding food you can handle!
Great video as usual guys.
@artisanelectrics
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
very interesting video!
Could unit be mounted higher up the wall, say to be nearer the ceiling, which would allow greater usable length of the garage floor to be occupied by the car.
Hi, first time here, will comment through video, something for you to think about, does flooding occurs in area? I would put electrical or batteries at least .5 metres above ground, just incase, even if there has been no flooding in area.
Hi how much does it cost to use solar panels and to be connected to the grid , I believe solar is the best option at present obviously the initial cost is quite a bit but once it’s installed,you have free power and an instant saving, great video tidy install 👍
Very interesting. It’s good that battery is sitting on the floor instead of being supported by bolts in the wall on the newer models as he said. Thermalite blocks are terrible to fix to and resin is the best option, not plugs and screws.
@Lanfang_Technology
Жыл бұрын
Hello friend, we are a lithium iron phosphate battery factory from China. If you are interested in cooperation, please let me know. We are looking for distributors in various countries around the world.
This makes the Tesla power wall look so much better.
@carholic-sz3qv
2 жыл бұрын
Nope 👎
So after three, multi day power cuts this year I am thinking a battery storage system may be the way to go. We don't have solar as don't have the right orientation to pick up the Scottish sun. Could a system like this be installed to take advantage of night time electricity charges and then be used to run the house in a powercut. All my neighbours are using petrol generators to keep essentials like freezers going. Be interested to know the likely cost of this system. I have an idea of price for petrol generator but this looks a more tidy solution?
Love to get an idea of cost Jordan. Looking at the battery unit price online it looks reasonable. Go on give us a ballpark figure
Givenergy do a 8.2kw Battery storage system for under 3k i believe in conjunction with Octopus energy. With the soaring energy costs and other battery systems on the market I think that’s quite a good price , not sure that’s for the whole system though.
Wow amazing! Great job! What is the final cost of this?
Would be great to have info on battery chemistry and prices and pay back time
We just hung 2 of those batteries from Sonnen at a clients house
It would be nice if you gave an approximate estimate of cost for this kind of install, and information like whether the battery can be used in "island mode" during a power cut?
@whatever_12
2 жыл бұрын
Any battery can provide power during blackouts, it all depend on the inverter look for a good inverter like vitron Quatro and it will handle everything for you, if power goes out it will automatically switch to battery so fast your pc, tv etc won't even turn off.. This vid system is awful value for money .. Look for unaffiliated companies and ask them about off grid system (15k to 20k pound for solar panel, inverter, battery will be sufficient for a good setup to power your ac charge a car etc.. ) i don't know about installation cost but budget another 5 to 10k
@novatime3214
2 жыл бұрын
£3.50
@bramcoteelectrical1088
2 жыл бұрын
most inverters can do islande mode...the issue then comes down to loads you require backing up... I dont like to backup everyone's and also ypu need to concern yourself with the earthing arrangement when in island 🏝 😒 mode... TT earthing it with a earthing relay when on island mode as the inverter normally is a IT battery inverter arrangement and requires careful thoughts on the earthing in island mode... also need to take loads in island mode into concern
@James-zu1ij
2 жыл бұрын
I have the 14kw Tesla £7500 fitted. It has taken over 4 times since November and powered the house in a power cut. I would advise getting the biggest battery you can. Since here in the UK we have one sunny day and then it's cloudy for a week. I am a low electric user, so a bigger battery could (2X Teslas) get me to that next sunny day. Fortunately, I can plug my car in to get all the excess solar; I hate exporting. I will be getting a Sunamp heat battery soon too. You will find that there is more than enough energy to be stored from a sunny day, even on an average solar system.
Why does these installs NEVER show what the grid is pulling, Most homes have smart meters.. Given most battery systems the difference between them isn't really KW it's more how the inverter will discharge itself. Solis inverters for example cannot read the grid correctly and IHD units will show 40-60w grid pull (1-2kw a day) Given the price of these units you'd think it would be first thing to show off. Before and after on grid pull.
I'm trying to get my head around all this. Is it feasible and cost effective(3,200kWh/A electricity) to go 'off grid' (no grid supply/smart meter) and no internet. Answers or links to sites where I can find this out welcomed.
But it's a wicked high tech system you installed. Love tech.
Very interesting & informative video. Drax is not a gas turbine, it is coal and biomass fired! Those case fixing screw locations is a bad design choice, little thought put into it. I hope the rest of the unit isn't similarly compromised by design.
Great watch guys.
@OvalRenewables
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Theres a massive gas store under liverpool that would power the whole uk for another 100 yrs +... its a choice to make the prices so high!
Pass-through RJ45 connectors are a dream!
@funkymonkey1198
2 жыл бұрын
Just use a switch.
@Rainbowhockey
2 жыл бұрын
@@funkymonkey1198 what?
My questions are to work out payback with warranty time, as if any part of this system fails outside warranty and payback has not been reached then the cost increases and payback is longer.
@hondaguy9153
2 жыл бұрын
Unless your electricity is very expensive, or your utility doesn't offer a good credit on solar back to the grid(which is my situation. They give .66kWh bill credit for every 1kWh I put back on the grid) a battery won't ever pay for itself IMO. For me, the battery gives me peace of mind and a little more independence. It's not about saving money.
would you fit out a new build NZEB in Northern Ireland with PV and batteries?
Hi, Great video. I'm thinking about installing a battery storage system at the minute. I've got an EV and currently on the Octopus go tariff (currently 7.5p/kWh) so I'm thinking i'll charge the batteries at night on the off-peak tariff and use the battery therefrom throughout the day, minimising my peak tariff usage and ultimately energy bill... I'm keen to understand if there are any concerns with storing the battery system in the garage with no frost protection? Also, I've seen a combined unit by Voltacon which reads well and wondered if you'd had any experience with their products.
Wouldn't it make more sense if the battery had more capacity, was portable and also multi-use? Solution: Get a used EV with V2G or V2H (house) option. (Probably would be cheaper too)
@astranger448
2 жыл бұрын
Company parking lots should be covered by solar, so your car charges while you work. When you get home in the evening you plug your car into the home, and run the home from the car. Makes sense and the technology isn't overly complex. It will require bi-directional infrastructure, which is basically the only thing that makes sense.
how does the supply swap from the grid to the battery supply?
Does a battery require an additional G98 / G99 DNO notification / approval, or can this be avoided somehow with DC coupling to the existing inverter?
@bramcoteelectrical1088
2 жыл бұрын
the inverter has the approval not the battery..
My payback on my system has not been achieved yet, but when my battery fails again it will be out of warranty. So if I get to 8 years trouble free fantastic it will have been cost effective. But a battery failure now would add a £2300 extra cost to my aging system. I have decided if this happens I will not replace the battery, I will invest and add an extra 8 kw of solar ground level to improve winter months.
Bit worried about 2 tiny little feet holding all that weight for 25 years, especially that type of brick wall, is that your system or you are installing the system of their choice? What do you think of this system, cost?
How do these Sonnens compare with the Tesla Powerwall 2 these days in terms of performance?
Those inverters are for grid tie setups, off grid is a total diff beast this stuff is easy to setup the inverter does all the work with its BMS, battery charging and inside working. Solar is hopeless in the winter sun anyways.
@shilks8773
2 жыл бұрын
Depends how much Solar is installed and what you can get in the Winter / How far North you are.
Quick question for you, when you’re installing EV chargers. Are you recommending fitting a SPD. Ive fitted a couple now for the company I work for , & was thinking should we be doing but the only problem is we will price ourselves out of the market
@bramcoteelectrical1088
2 жыл бұрын
💯 💯 absolutely
So that's what Dan Biggar does in his spare time 🤣🤣🤣
Can this system be used for your central heating? Would you need electrical boiler. My hot water is generally served by my solar diverter
How about a wiring diagram of the system so we can see what on earth is going on and what each device is capable of and how it's used, and how it relates to the overall system?
RJ 45 wiring, A is for Almost nether, B is for Bog-standard
@coolmonkey619
2 жыл бұрын
Almost never
I am very intrested in this tech, my 6 year old system has a 5kw battery and 70 days a year my dedicated South facing 4kw solar charges this battery, but 70 day a year it averages at 29% charge so it never goes over so not fully charged, and a calculation 30 days a year max charge to 58%. My year is from 1st September. Then the remainder this battery charges to 100% every day. My question is is all of this install solar charging this battery or is it split. Is this system connected to economy 7 to charge these battery's in cheap rate.
drax isn't a gas turbine power station, it's mostly imported wood pellets and some coal Also presume you meant to say the battery is 11kWh rather than 11kW ?
@effervescence5664
2 жыл бұрын
I thought Drax shut down the last coal fired units back in March and was now 100% "green wood" pellets.
In Australia, there is a national battery testing center.........they ran simulated, 3 bedroom home, draw down and recharge, daily cycled loads for long term testing over some years. They tested systems provided by suppliers like Redflow, Tesla Power wall, BYD etc. What they discovered was that in their final report the Lithium batteries, lost 15% ( BYD best performer) to 30% (Tesla Power wall etc) were the worst in the first 4 years. Australia has also experienced problems with Lithium battery fires in storage applications and changed the install code to mitigate fires. The findings were, that Lithium batteries, have lifespans of about 10 years.......given that capacity degrades continually over that time. The devil is in the detail, and explaining all the costs, is a step towards transparency so that people know how this all adds up........but, the full story of LIFESPAN is a significant aspect of cost per kw/hr over time.
Jordan, you should make a video on Man v Food. That was a right fork full 😝😝 A great video on battery storage 👍
@artisanelectrics
2 жыл бұрын
🤣👍
02:49 Drax burn biomass (wood pellets) and coal.
@anonymous.youtuber
2 жыл бұрын
Drax … reminds me of a James Bond villain. 😱
He is always ready for it to piss down
That's a nice install. It's similar to a Tesla Powerwall, they have a battery and inverter combi unit. I see that you've left in the solar inverter, so I assume there are two inverters? It's a shame you didn't share the math, I think a lot of people don't know how to do the equation's to know what they need and there are alot of sales and marketing that's misleading. I think that would do alot to ensure better knowledge to the public. The battery being a based Calc, then everything else on top. So as you've done this a little backwards, how did that work out? Is the solar current/power matched?
This is a Sonnen eco battery. Why are Sonnen hybrids typically used for new pv installs? Do they all have the same functionality?