HP EliteDesk 705 G4 Mini PC Discrete Graphics Upgrade
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It is a nice surprise when you have something and realize you can expand the product's functionality.
Such is the case with my HP EliteDesk 705 G4 Mini PC, which I purchased a few years ago. I was looking through my KZread feed and found a video about an AMD Radeon RX560 discrete graphics card with 4 GB of RAM. Yes, I never downloaded and read the manual when I purchased this PC, at which point I would have known this two years ago.
Again, surprises are nice. So I purchased a card and double-checked my power supply to meet the requirements. Yeah, it's a 135 Watt Power SUpply! (On the safe side, I purchased a 150-Watt power supply when pegging over 130 watts during testing.)
If you have this mini pc or are considering purchasing one, I hope you find this an informative video.
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Table of Contents:
00:00 - Introduction
00:53 - Opening Titles
01:03 - HP EliteDesk 705 G4 Review
03:41 - EliteDesk 705 G4 Internals
04:40 - Quick look at the Radeon RX 560 Card
05:14 - Installing the discrete graphics card
07:19 - Task Manager
07:46 - Unigine Heaven Test
08:37 - Unigine Valley Test
09:09 - Geekbench 6 OpenCL Test
10:03 - Geekbench 6 Vulkan Test
10:22 - DaVinci Resolve Test
11:49 - Handbrake Test
12:30 - Conclusion
Пікірлер: 100
It was brought to my attention that the Unigine Heaven numbers weren't correct as the resolutions for each test differed. I reran the test at a 1600 x 900 resolution and graphics improvement was 44%. The discrete graphics test showed the FPS was 45.3 and the score was 1893. The built-in graphics showed the FPS was 31.3 and the score was 1311.
@J12RQ
23 күн бұрын
you are a very underated youtuber, i hope your channel blows up later!
For anyone wanting to rush out and buy an Elitedesk G4+. Triple check with the seller. As not everyone has the MXM connector for the GPU on the motherboard.
@heywhatisnext
29 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. I appreciate your comment and information.
@Yandarval
29 күн бұрын
@@heywhatisnext I have a stack of Elitedesks of various kinds. Later versions can even have 2.5GB NICs as their Flex IO card option. Sadly not for a G4. Flex IO is the name of the port you took out to install the GPU. You will want version one if you go looking. As v2 and v3 will not work for you.
@leondeco4835
25 күн бұрын
35watt models havent
@marcusgurley9495
22 күн бұрын
@@Yandarvalthat might solve my problem! My 705 G4 DM won’t recognize the HDMI FLEX IO I installed
dint know this was possible amazing video
@heywhatisnext
26 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. Glad you linked the video.
I wanted to see this for a long time
@heywhatisnext
10 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching.
i love the g1-g4 market on ebay for these things, one day ill eventually buy one for batocera or somthing for fun, thanks for the upload.
@heywhatisnext
8 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Another important thing to consider is the top bezel cover. I bought a 705 g4 with the 2400GE with the goal of doing this. However, my unit came with a solid top. For optimum ventalation, you should try finding one of the mesh tops that are on the 65 or 90w models. The tops from the 800 g4s will work, but if it's not a g4, don't bother. It won't fit.
@heywhatisnext
19 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and providing this information.
hello I have a 705 G5 model will this modification work? G4 looks the same inside there is also a connector. But won't the bios block the start?
@heywhatisnext
4 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. According to HP’s website, it does appear that it should work: support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06461848.
I have one doing nothing at the moment. I was debating on getting the gpu for it and install Bazzite OS and see how it does. Its currently running W11, with the help of rufus, just fine.
@heywhatisnext
29 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. Yeah, I should have clarified that there is a way to run Win11, but maybe another video for later :-)
@NetrunnerAT
14 күн бұрын
@@dctaken BazziteOS OS Run better with AMD GPU's at the Moment. Reason is BazziteOS use Wayland and Nvidia GPU's are Not Well integrated. FSync make troubles. Create Micro stucks. Also Valves Gaming Mode isnt full supported. This means ... If you Look at Lenovo 1L PC's every AMD 75w is a good choice. 12V Rail isnt build to Support more Power. Also Intels A380 with A340 cooler Work in 1L Case. One thingiverse you can also Download a Case Mode for two Slot SFF GPU's.
Very interesting
@heywhatisnext
23 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching.
Does anyone have pinout of this connector ? Can I use it as additional pcie slot ?
@heywhatisnext
27 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. Yes, I’d like to know as well.
I installed archlinux on mine, but still uses the vega 11 and it works great and quite snappy If you do don´t forget to install the vaapi for amdgpu. Thanks for the video.
@heywhatisnext
Ай бұрын
Thank you for watching, and the input on the Linux front. I’m thinking of running Mint on a separate partition.
@swemac
23 күн бұрын
@@heywhatisnext just do it and install it with EFI bootloader / works best
I just bought this little beauty last week. I love how easy it is to work on, unlike other OEM pc models. The only thing I would like to know is if this can be upgraded to a Ryzen 5 2600.
@swemac
Ай бұрын
Its not possible the bios does not support it
@swemac
Ай бұрын
however i removed the powermangement in bios and cpu boost even higher
@heywhatisnext
Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@swemac
28 күн бұрын
@@sphericalcow5258 i did not remove it just disabled it
I didn't read the tile correctly and I thought I could get one for the HP Prodesk 600 G3 mini.
@heywhatisnext
23 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. That’s a bummer.
I’m wondering about emulation, my stock one tops out at ps1, will this run ps2 & Xbox or higher?
@heywhatisnext
27 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. Honestly, I don’t know but willing to try. If anyone else knows, let us know.
@NetrunnerAT
14 күн бұрын
@@butterbagboy AMD RX560 isnt realy fast. Its 2,5 Times slower compare to a SteamDeck. This means ... If you Play emulated Games ... It Work fine. 30-60 FPS bottleneck is more the CPU If you use older Gen Intels.
Would have been useful to see an FPS test in graphics hungry games. I always thought you couldn't buy graphics cards for mini PCs like that, how did you find out it could be upgraded and how did you know what physical dimensions of card to look for? Is this the only card available for it or are there other choices? Where can we buy the cards other than Ebay?
@heywhatisnext
24 күн бұрын
Thank for watching. I do plan a follow-up video exploring game. I'm not a big gamer, but I'm willing to give it a go. How did I find out? A video appeared in my KZread feed about this topic. I had no clue this mini PC had that feature. Yes, eBay is the place to look. This appears to be a card only HP makes. Check out the links in my video description.
Would you suggest a G6 or G5 over this G4 if I copy the same upgrade?
@heywhatisnext
26 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. In short, I guess it depends on what you want to do. The HP Elitedesk 800 G6 has a recent Intel processor and a discrete Nvidia graphics card option. As I stated in the video, I create interactive, online training and online help systems. For me the G4 works fine, and two years ago the price was hard to beat.
I would like to see what this does to a Batocera machine running on one of these, could be a nice small dual boot Batocera gaming machine/Windows media center PC.
@heywhatisnext
24 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. Yes, I'd like to do a follow-up video related to retro gaming, but it isn't something I normally do. But this channel is the opportunity for me (and hopefully others) to try new things and learn along the way. Stay tuned.
@michealdionne5456
23 күн бұрын
Runs well. My Bartop arcade is powered by an elitedesk 705 g4 with the ryzen 5 pro 2400ge
@Yuriel1981
23 күн бұрын
@michealdionne5456 I would have guessed, I have done a couple of the G3s for family members. Their igpus are good even up to PS 2/xbox/GameCube emulation fairly well. I was more interested in what it could handle at the top. Like PS3 or XBox 360 emulation. I am currently running a ryzen 3100/3060ti setup for my Home Media Center/Batocera system. It handles most everything pretty well.
Does MGPU work with this set up?
@heywhatisnext
26 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. Following the online instructions, I do not see the MGPU option under Gaming > Graphics > Advanced. I’m guessing this isn’t support with this setup.
Will this work in the 800 G4 too?
@heywhatisnext
10 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. I don’t know about the 800 G4. The sellers website does state the 805 G4 is supported. Hope that helps.
Are you using the Larger Power Supply?
@heywhatisnext
27 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. During the video, I used the 135 watt power supply that came with the unit. I purchased a 150 watt power supply off eBay. Honestly, the mini pc runs about the same; no noticeable additional power consumption.
You can update this to Win 11. I have 3 of there units and just recently installed Win 11 on one of them without a problem. On another note - I have the 35W versions and I was having issues with 2 of them where the fan right from the start spins up to max RPM and stays like that forever. It becomes terribly noisy at that point. The only workaround is to remove CMOS battery, then fans behave normally then, but only until you have the device connected to power, after disconnection the problem returns. The problem is known and described over the internet as well. I was wondering - have you ever encountered this? Can you also post what RAM modules you have?
@heywhatisnext
13 сағат бұрын
Thanks for watching. I haven’t experienced the issue you mentioned regarding fan noise and high RPMs. Regarding RAM, I have a pair of Crucial 16 GB modules. Here’s the info: CT16G4SFRA32A.M16FR; 16GB DDR4-3200 SODIMM 1.2V CL22.
@XaFFaX
12 сағат бұрын
@@heywhatisnext Thank you! 👍
Not sure if it's been said, I'm to lazy to read through the comments, but if you do this, make sure you buy the 150W power supply, the 65W isn't gonna cut it. Also.... getting Linux running on this particular machine was a HUGE pain. so if you don't know much about it, stick to windows.
@heywhatisnext
19 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and reiterating the need for the higher wattage power supply.
@Messy_Marv
16 күн бұрын
How was Linux hard to install?
@Solar_and_Security
15 күн бұрын
@@Messy_Marv Edit: Also.... getting Linux running on this particular machine was a HUGE pain. to > Also.... getting Linux running on this particular machine "with the graphics card" was a HUGE pain. Forgot for a second that people love to comment *Pounds on chest* ugg ugg me brain is bigger than yours "how was this hard, it wasn't for me, I can't understand....." Messy, did you even install Linux on this machine with the card installed? Thanks for contributing nothing of value to the conversation. Back under the bridge troll.
I have an HP EliteDesk 705 G4 SFF, can I play games on it? 8GB RAM, A10-9700 CPU
@heywhatisnext
2 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. I don’t have access to that PC, but I looked up the specs and benchmarks. Out of the box, I would say older titles might be okay, but nothing too graphics intensive. The CPU Geekbench numbers were 646 single-core and 1574 multi-core. For retro gaming, you should be fine up to PSP, and even then you might be stretching the limits. Anyone else want to chime in?
Did you exchange the standard power supply?
@heywhatisnext
15 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. I did upgrade to the 150 watt power supply even though I had the 135 watt unit. Honestly, I haven’t noticed a different in wattage between the two.
Probably better off with a EGPU connected via oculink.
@heywhatisnext
13 сағат бұрын
Thanks for watching, and thanks for the input.
Vega 11 is quite fast by the integrated standard. 130W with a discrete.. ouch that is a LOT vs max 65 on IGPU and CPU combined. Also watch out for the 35 vs 65 w models. I think that the internal GPU will only work for the 65W models. Also the price of the card has now risen to $75 USD.. and to ship this to my country is another $75 USD.. lol..
@heywhatisnext
20 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching.
At the very least, it'll free up some RAM.
@heywhatisnext
Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
I have one of those elitedesk, how about your temps?
@heywhatisnext
29 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. I ran some tests using Geekbench 6 and Cinebench R23 to capture temps. For the CPU, the minimum was 54°C and max was 94°C. In Geekbench 6 graphics test, I saw 60°C. Hope this helps.
I see Davinci Resolve, i click like
@heywhatisnext
18 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!
Interesting, the built-in graphics are that good that a dedicated gpu wasn't a big upgrade. At least now, with the dedicated graphics, you are not taking up some of your ram.
@heywhatisnext
Ай бұрын
Yeah, I was surprised. With the discrete graphics, I noticed temps on the CPU were less during graphics testing I did off camera. This was to be expected. Still loved tinkering with this mini pc :-)
@metamon2704
Ай бұрын
well it's not a very good discrete graphics card so that is why!
@Croga
Ай бұрын
For about 2 years I ran a system based on the Ryzen 5 3400G as my main gaming system. It wasn't very good at first person shooters but World of Warcraft and Diablo3 ran pretty decently. Even on the 3840*1440 screen. IGPs have become pretty powerful over the past couple of years.
Wow, I don't know about external graphics card to HP G4 mini. I have two, and I am funboy this computer :). Thank you for movie.
@heywhatisnext
24 күн бұрын
Thanks for your watching.
Test with Batocera
@heywhatisnext
10 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. I’ll look into testing this.
AMD 3400G B-450 , 16 Gb 3600 Ram, 1Tb M2 and an AMD 6400 HDMI2.1 4k 120hz, Noctua 9 cm Downdraft cooler. Max power usage is 121 Watts
@heywhatisnext
Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@afrowitchdr
28 күн бұрын
someone sure is proud of there pc specs to be spouting them off in a random videos comment like this lol
Lenovo M720Q is better. You can use a standard Graficcard. I use a M910X with i9-9900T and a RTX A2000 with 64gb RAM and 4TB NVME with BazziteOS and PS5 Controller.
@heliosf9592
15 күн бұрын
And how much does it cost?
@NetrunnerAT
15 күн бұрын
@@heliosf9592 m720q you get sometimes under 70€. A2000 around 200€. CPU is expansiv But i wana it 210€ But you can use also 50€ Gen 9 Intel in a range around 35-45w TPW. CPU ... you need add Microcode in BIOS.
@heywhatisnext
15 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. That does sound like a better unit.
@NetrunnerAT
15 күн бұрын
@@heywhatisnext read how to make CPU Microcode Updates with Coffeetime. Also how to use a SPI Prommer to flash Firmware in circuits. After that you can use Gen 9 Intel on a Gen 7 or 8 mobo.
I don't support HP (Hyper Proprietary) products.
@heywhatisnext
20 күн бұрын
😂 Thanks for watching.
Not worth it if you don't live in the USA. The shipping is as much as the card itself..
@heywhatisnext
17 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching.
Cant be worth the extra power and noise.
@heywhatisnext
Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, and overall, I would agree with you. If you’re a gamer, I could see a benefit if you already have this EliteDesk PC.
I got sick & tired of hearing "go ahead"after less thzan 5 minutes
@heywhatisnext
15 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching what you could. Wow! I do say that more than I should. I appreciate your feedback.
@berniesutton7277
15 күн бұрын
@heywhatisnext you're welcome. Apart from the repetitious phrase, it looked like a good video. That phrase is excessively over used by many Americans and it does get tiresome hearing it, especially as it is usually completely unnecessary in the context of the commentary. Yours has been the most intelligent response to my comment like this . I'll have another look at your videos
Useless gimmick product
@heywhatisnext
18 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. By today’s standard, I can’t disagree.
@lonewolfsos
18 күн бұрын
@@heywhatisnext Might be good as some sort of server with linux but there's cheaper and better alternatives. Great video though