My man falling for Cocogoat, just like the rest of us.

@gankeat577

3 жыл бұрын

When's her rerun comin Im saving for her

@owo4470

3 жыл бұрын

Oui

@Indivinity

3 жыл бұрын

@@gankeat577 potentially 2.1

@nainex52

3 жыл бұрын

Waiting for Amos Bow rerun; maybe in a few mths time :')

@Indivinity

3 жыл бұрын

@@nainex52 good luck with the pulls

I also like her personality *Camera pans under Ganyu climbing*

@natsucooks

2 жыл бұрын

simps lmao

@rainynight8385

2 жыл бұрын

Careful that cake can choke a monster to death lol

@dizlimyui8887

2 жыл бұрын

Then pay please

@Renvi

2 жыл бұрын

She doesn't have much of a personality anyway, so... hard to showcase LOL.

@sunnylangthasa7301

2 жыл бұрын

Man of culture

As a Free-to-Play player, I enjoy playing without spending a single cent.

@user-fs3ch6cc3j

2 жыл бұрын

right? I don't see any use to pay in games unless you want to support the game. However, It gets tiring when the game is just, full on pay to win. If I enjoy it though, I play it regardless :)

@dreadsupreme

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I actually get turned off from games that are over crowded with whales, there are aspects of games I enjoy where you can get items from watching ads. Over the years its only gotten harder to be a free to play player!

@bricolenbenjamin9860

2 жыл бұрын

Everybody know the true goal of gacha is to win it without spending a single cent

@JsonicGD

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah skill matters the most. THE BEST FEELING is that when the enemy says your noob then, the tryharding kicks in and you destroy them and make then eat their words and laugh in chat

@idagonchannel5681

2 жыл бұрын

Mod enjoyer & only whale a game that I want to support here. I'd rather to cheat than to pay a game that I don't wish to pay tbh. Coz there are a lot of ways to gain an item without paying and without banned. Which is some mods that you can do it easy & low profile. Still the highest spending I've ever done is at genshin tho, by 3000$ (but it's all a good pay for me, considering that genshin saved my life for sucidie attempt) P.s: blame kokomi for my 3000$ spending 🤣

this is why i think paid games are generally better than f2p games, you're just going to buy it once and then play for pure enjoyment, while the f2p ones are mostly just cash grabbing games where it's almost predatory.

@Roy-ig2ue

2 жыл бұрын

What sucks though is that paid games have started adding pay features. I remember the first ones (for me) being in like CoD black ops 3 where they started adding new weapons in loot boxes. That sucked.

@natan380

2 жыл бұрын

Most paid games also have microtransactions though, especially if it's an online game

@annaairahala9462

2 жыл бұрын

@@natan380 No, most paid games do not have microtransactions lol many online games do, but many online games aren't paid games

@farrelramandha7949

2 жыл бұрын

@@annaairahala9462 tell that to assasin creed odyssey

@annaairahala9462

2 жыл бұрын

@@farrelramandha7949 Yet still the majority of the assassin's creed odyssey franchise does not have microtransactions If I were to give examples I'd generally lean towards the non-AAA games. While a decent number of modern paid AAA games have microtransactions, however having microtransactions on a paid non-AAA game is almost unheard of. Also, just so this is clear in case this were to come up as well, mobile games work a little differently when compared to the rest of the game industry.

the only thing i learned from this is that you should simp for ganyu

@Corridorcrawler

2 жыл бұрын

Frick yeah

@harveysantiago3757

2 жыл бұрын

Your ganyu will be irrelevant years from now.

@agni3377

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@ryoid6001

2 жыл бұрын

Ayaka supremacy

@LunarEdge7

2 жыл бұрын

@@harveysantiago3757 That's being kind to them. Knowing MHY and how they did Honkai's meta, it'll just take under one year, maybe 6 months

actually most game doesn't require you to spend money, those money spent are just for showoff skins.

@RonLarhz

3 жыл бұрын

And most of the time,just grind n you'll eventually get some nice skin or rares. I'm 99%free player

@penguin1714

3 жыл бұрын

For mobile games this isnt really true. Very pay to win...

@malakatan3235

3 жыл бұрын

@@penguin1714 You can grind, but with money you get strong very fast

@eilois

3 жыл бұрын

Lords Mobile does require money if you want to be competitive globally.

@RonLarhz

3 жыл бұрын

@@penguin1714 My ldoe i have 4-6 creates of guns and 1/2 done with stoning my walls in 2 yrs. VS people spending hundreds n thousands in 1-3mths then realized new zone is not that simple,skills required. Or they feel repetitive and stop. Money flushed down the drain...lol... Often i see ppl complain on digimon and boruto voltage that they didnt get any ultra rare adter spending hundreds. While me only playing for 6 mths and having 4 A rank,10+B rank with 3 ultimate awakening jutsu FREE... while my free gem in Digimon gave me 2 x antibody,1ultra,other random mega.

man...back during my time, the gacha I play is really physical gacha.... puting 50cent into the gacha machine to obtain a capsule transformer toy..... the rare drop of these toys was a stealth bomber transformer.... I always burn my 50cent savings to obtain that toy......(which I never got...my friend got it instead =( ..) Also those 20cent card dispenser..... Ultraman cards, dragonball cards lmao.... time sure have change so drastically...

@posadasmark

2 жыл бұрын

Oooooh the OG NCH

@hajimerou

2 жыл бұрын

that's the real gacha, you pay for what you get. basically the reward has same value, just seems different for every person self preference. While these days "gacha" which is actually loot box gamble named as gacha, you are NOT paying for what you get, your money can be wasted for some cheap garbage or a slim chance to get a jackpot, that's basically gambling.

@redwanmarashli6496

2 жыл бұрын

Omg! You reminded me of picking all the rare cards and brag infront of my friends about how lucky i was to have them. Now im looking back... I guess children need more attention and care.

This is 100% true! If you have ever played mmorpg in SEA or ASIA server you'll get it. Some might say whales spend 1-3k USD in the game but I can assure you (also met some) real whales spend a MINIMUM of $10,000. They play the game for roughly 3-5 months, get tired of it then play another new mobile mmorpg then whale again.

@juliane5632

2 жыл бұрын

lol theres now a similar mmorpg game that make you crypto money and gamble in the game. Such game is progressing, now your not only addicted pplaying it and whaling it, you might end up as a investor or a gambler maybe both

@JayDzay

2 жыл бұрын

@@juliane5632 Some of those games are free to play but also play to earn (MIR4). The one that you are probably talking about is Axie Infinity and that is not just a game but is an NFT with some gaming aspects to it. The main thing on axie is earning, not the gameplay.

@tikuzmati7311

2 жыл бұрын

i know someone who spent $100k+ on a mobile game haha

@cadraf

2 жыл бұрын

where people get this amount of money?!?

@link-kun5974

2 жыл бұрын

@@cadraf Parents money, their own job, or sometimes scholarship money for student.

That one guys : i pull because i love her voice and personality Me: he true gacha player😂

@KIDASU

2 жыл бұрын

Most important aspec when choose the main dps tho

@xryanxdxgaming4925

2 жыл бұрын

Im a gacha player

@natsucooks

2 жыл бұрын

he just simpin kekw

@noobmasterchief4314

2 жыл бұрын

He's being KZread friendly but we all know why he swiped for Ganyu. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@oceanicmage

2 жыл бұрын

@@noobmasterchief4314 Hey man, I aint no Masterchef but I do be a Master at simp

I play genshin and other gacha games. And yes we do gamble in this game like in genshin where we have 50/50. but honestly gacha games has taught me another thing as an F2p budgeting and saving.

@-tbhihu-

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes Genshin:”)

@buildersoflegends7106

2 жыл бұрын

Genshin "Impact" on my money.

@bensonplayzyt

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I spend on welkin every month to get extra spending power and it's not much to pay for so I'm ok

@natsucooks

2 жыл бұрын

tbh its kinda easy to get primos and stuff in genshin as f2p if you grind enough

@marklunar4509

2 жыл бұрын

@@natsucooks it's not if you're end game player. No other resource for primos other than events and spiral abyss.

You literally don't have to pay on these types of games. Just have patience. Most of them are just either, hard to obtain (Paying makes it easier) or it's just a skin (Literally a virtual cosmetic). Paying once in a while is fine but don't let people get addicted

@unknownbystander7812

2 жыл бұрын

in maplestory its kinda you have to in later parts unless its reboot and even then if you dont ever get a event that gives you a free pet in reboot progressing is a chore especially for all collecting quest where you have to physicaly pick like 200 of 1 thing of the ground filled with stuff.

@twisterrrrr

2 жыл бұрын

Cosmetics is like half of the reason why most of us play the game. I've played all the games in this video a lot and paid for cosmetics etc for years it's a huge deal lol These games make most of their money from cosmetics for a reason

@kuromaki6226

2 жыл бұрын

@@twisterrrrr Cap xD, Depends on what game or what's your interest. Skins don't get me hooked on a game. The game does it. Skins are just some additional features 😩

@froggy6078

2 жыл бұрын

@@kuromaki6226 There are also games like Genshin Impact and Cookie Run where you rely on getting certain characters with in-game/actually buyable currencies to make your team more powerful? It's easier to enjoy the game with better characters + yes skins/appearance help to if you make them pretty ofc everyone wants them.. quite the rabbit hole tbh

@kuromaki6226

2 жыл бұрын

@@froggy6078 Games like genshin making teams more powerful, However those aren't really required as it's a PvE and you don't need that strong of a character to win the game. It's not that hard really unless you don't have that patience Note : I played gacha games for 6 years by now from old line rangers, Honkai day 1, genshin day 1 as well all for free xD

That's why I'm f2p in Genshin, I have most of the event 5 stars since I've started playing in may (I don't have Klee or Ayaka) but I save and it works. No need to waste money.

@thenightcorereaper

2 жыл бұрын

wa- how do you have all while being f2p... cap

@diaochan7506

2 жыл бұрын

@@thenightcorereaper One answer lucky.

@yoon2917

2 жыл бұрын

@@diaochan7506 yeah. i have a friend who got kazuha, ayaka, yoimiya and diluc all within under 60 pulls lmao 💀

@haseo52000

2 жыл бұрын

@@thenightcorereaper ⌚& 🍀

@annonymousgal8987

2 жыл бұрын

@@thenightcorereaper Some of us just have luck.

Step 1: Become a content creator. Step 2: Stream your gambling habit online. Step 3: Expense your loot boxes purchases as Business expenses. Step 4: Profit. That's how you do it kids. Gamble with tax-payer's money.

@aloysiusoh7220

3 жыл бұрын

S t o n k s

@Kajjxsa6222

3 жыл бұрын

Tectone?

@Kajjxsa6222

3 жыл бұрын

Ehe te NANDAYO

@Gabriel-nf8gy

3 жыл бұрын

Underated

@douknodawae7805

3 жыл бұрын

Stonks

Instead of blaming the game, maybe these kids should be taught the wonderful concepts of "Budgeting" and "Saving".

@therealthatcatstabe360

3 жыл бұрын

That's right. I even managed to budget myself to a max amount of money spent is $80 on my google account

@iicustodianlaw

2 жыл бұрын

Yea only virgins say blame the game

@therealthatcatstabe360

2 жыл бұрын

@@iicustodianlaw and what do chads say?

@RENch.7359

2 жыл бұрын

This tbh. I've been playing gacha for years now and i never spent more than 100$ in a game, just need some self control or be broke like me XD. Unless you're the collector type then you can't get every sh*t without spending a dime

@PerryKobalt

2 жыл бұрын

Lol even I can't spend $1 to gacha But it saved me from Bankruptcy, _unlike my friend spend $900.000 USD just for _*_*"Waifu"*_*

Hell yeah, as a maplestory whale, customizing your character in that game is addicting.

Genshin is one of the more forgiving ones since there is a pity system, there is an increased chance to get a 5 star character after the 75th wish and a guaranteed chance at the 90th. This means there's a maximum you can spend before getting what you want.

@akutomo9080

2 жыл бұрын

Unless you want constellation 6, then you are forced to pay up to 2000 USD.

@steffyxx

2 жыл бұрын

Agree, im a high enough Genshin player to say free play is completely possible.

@natan380

2 жыл бұрын

I can't really think of a gacha game that doesn't have some sort of pity system

@jdmb2749

2 жыл бұрын

@@natan380 In fact, most games with the gacha mechanic don't have one. FGO and Cookie Run Kingdom are popular examples. A lot of the well known gacha games have one, but most of the ones that aren't known as gacha games but still contain the gacha/lootbox mechanic don't.

@annaairahala9462

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of gacha games do have a pity system due to Japanese law now Genshin isn't too forgiving because its currency is so expensive. On average, each 5* costs a few hundred dollars. You can be f2p to an extent, but there is a limited amount of primogems as dailies and spiral abyss do not give enough to sustain wishing on new characters.

I speak from experience with having spent over $1500 in genshin impact alone and I truly regret it

@leehongjin6884

3 жыл бұрын

Yea don't whale on gacha games it ain't worth it. Also those people at Mihoyo earned enough in the first 2 weeks to recoup development expenses so be f2p all you want.

@Shuwa217

3 жыл бұрын

I balance between f2p & paying accounts so here's my tips: 1. Count how much of the premium currency you need to spend to get the character you want 2. Convert the premium currency into real money, you will be surprised how much is spent to get just that reward you desire at full cost 3. Check if the real money is above your budget, more often then not some of these rewards will return at a later date so you could skip it for now & save up for when it comes back 4. If the cost cannot be defined as a certain number then my advice is to try the 3rd market, a fixed price is always better than recklessly spending

@adis.g6569

3 жыл бұрын

Me $4k. I shouldnt have played

@vilester

3 жыл бұрын

@@leehongjin6884 did you get the character you wanted?

@catherine4077

3 жыл бұрын

Rise of empire, truly regret it that I started to try RTS mobile again after climbing out of CoK,CoE pits. Although it's enjoyable.

Bruh that dude could've gotten ganyu for free if he saved.

@goldwingamer5766

2 жыл бұрын

I know right.. this video is too bias without in-depth research on each game.. Genshin although is gachs base but the content is absolutely beautiful and stunning.. plus they give player guaranteed pulled after a certain amount of pull being made.. hence there is a cap to the amount the player is spending for a certain character.. I could have easily get the character that I want for free but just to support the developer hard works.. I would spend $5 on their Welkins once in awhile..

@potatopotato9308

2 жыл бұрын

Behind those games exist employees who work hard to bring us quality entertainment. It's just gacha games have different business model than conventional games. Genshin is the most lenient gacha games and it still has guarantee over payment, unlike other gacha which are totally random.

@joydeepscorpio

2 жыл бұрын

he wanted to c6 her . That is the only logical explanation . Also maybe an Amos?

@richcast66

2 жыл бұрын

That is what I did. Baal cost me nothing, just a few months of saving diligently

@Mark-dy9pc

2 жыл бұрын

@@richcast66 "a few month" but there's new characters every patch. Maybe he want them too. Like me🤧 with welkin, you can get one 5* per month. But there's come the 5050😭

The first time i spent money on a game (like an extra item, not like a game itself) I was like 18 and it was one of those rythm games and my favorite song was behind a paywall so for the first time i asked my parents for their card and payed them in cash, like a month later the app straight up disappeared from app store forever and I'm still bitter about it

@kutsara_tiyan

Жыл бұрын

as long as you did not spend more than 10 dollars on that then that's alright.

Oh imagine a world where we could buy Genshin characters directly

@abrahamalviarez5870

2 жыл бұрын

Or the gear

@bootlegryn5765

2 жыл бұрын

well, technically there's a thing in Honkai where you can buy them in bp as well as their signature weapon and gear

Well for me it was the opposite, Gacha games taught me how to spend my resources wisely....

@kennethlow2642

2 жыл бұрын

same, classic, whatever little trinkets they give every month is saved , whatever items that could only be bought with premium currency is for simpletons true gamers play on hard mode, no iap, just grind

@arzelle2952

2 жыл бұрын

@@kennethlow2642 Ah yess the F2P ways

@user-cp1lj3bn3b

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and also learning how to enjoy the game the f2p way. Games like genshin has so much lore and things you can do without the best characters or weapons. You can spend a good deal on it and have a lot of fun without speeding through it.

@king.canute21

2 жыл бұрын

I never pay for gacha games

@BeastOrGod

2 жыл бұрын

Pfffff, you learned that by losing money on a mobile game?

Most disgusting is that a girl would ask their boyfriend to fund their games and once she got what she wanted then they call it a quit. Smart

@condorX2

3 жыл бұрын

Lol! Mission accomplished

@cozmic0

3 жыл бұрын

well the boyfriend better get what he wants too from her then all is fair 👍

@jeanneann3545

2 жыл бұрын

I did this once, but its because the dude is 26 or something while I was 15. I realised that the relationship is not right, im underage and hes like, just one year off from being literally ten years older than me. Since he bought me a lot of stuffs and most of them cant be traded back because its bound to the player, I offered to stop playing and gave my account to him. Years later I logged in again as an adult and I find out he didnt take my account. 🤷 Edit : No, this is not romantic. I was too childish back then, I was being toxic to him, and I was so ashamed, coupled with me feeling very wrong about our age difference, I ended it all.

@NickyNightShine

2 жыл бұрын

Well you don't know if the guy get the poozy in exchange

@lidanhannasvily3564

2 жыл бұрын

Typical henehoe

For my opinion, i called this "The Dark Ages of Gaming". Why, cause games this present doesn't see you based on your skills and ability on playing the games, but instead, see you on how much money that you spend, which they called "dedication", and divide the Players on two sides, F2P and P2W, which for me, games now are not as challenging as before and for me, it easy to get bored.

@alfredofernando9599

2 жыл бұрын

But yeah, people have their own tastes and opinion based on how they played this present day games, but for me, older games still the best.

This is something non gamers can never be related. The feeling of getting something cool and flashy is totally satisfying. Especially in RPG game. And before you noticed, you ended up spending almost 1000$.

My mom denying me credit card use my whole childhood saved me from gacha hell. That didn't save me from steam sales tho

@SmileZero

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, I used to hoard games from steam sales because it's cheap and not even play it. Now I only buy game on sale if I plan to play it immediately, save me heaps of money.

@YouGotTheCob

3 жыл бұрын

so real

@Anon-cv7ru

3 жыл бұрын

Steam Sales is just outright purchase.. that is more akin to adult lady buying multiple pairs of shoes and handbags that they could ever use.

@HelloThere-lo3qi

3 жыл бұрын

@@SmileZero same.. i ended up playing like 5 out of dozens almost a hundred game i bought lmao

@rinreborn7364

3 жыл бұрын

Steam sales is fine, bought SP games like horizon zero dawn and you gain all access up to 100 hours of game time. Gacha on the another hand is just garbage.

well, gambling is powered by the 7 deadly sins.. 1st pride: bragging skins, costumes, damage and how strong you are. 2nd greed: you want it, you get it, coz you can. 3rd lust: almost same as greed you feel good at having skins or collecting or the characters 4th envy: you're longing for what others have 5th gluttony: you just feed into your addiction 6th wrath: getting angry for not dealing enough damage or not good enough on game 7th sloth: bored farming material or grinding for sets in game this is why i see many people falling for it. there's to many reason to trigger gambling addiction.

@dharami4450

2 жыл бұрын

Super agree

@joshuakoh1291

2 жыл бұрын

Well put indeed. 100% agreed. And its funny when u said that with ur username.

@adolffranz9502

2 жыл бұрын

lol i quit this game, because it suck up my valuable time i tried to grind as hard as i can but it seems like the game just want money i'm a competitive gamer(E-sport), paying to win is not for me

@invertbrid

2 жыл бұрын

Stopped at no.2 coz i mostly f2p in almost all my gacha games lol, spending $5-10 per month at most in some. Ppl need to learna bout saving and content with what u have. Altho if u can afford it and have lot spare money, whalong also good option.

@jake9854

2 жыл бұрын

@@dharami4450 but girls dont play games... i dont know y yall lied

I love how one of them did used the term euphoria as this holds the easiest yet best definition of most players spending on loot boxes. That euphoric feeling you get is really relaxing and fulfilling, but not in a long term sense.

@csffee6093

2 жыл бұрын

true

@ewejinyeap

2 жыл бұрын

Just like drugs.

I can relate to this so much, during COVID I started playing a free mobile game and before I knew it I got so deep I had to pay just to be able to even compete. There was no winning it was always on and worst of all you could make a mistake and lose everything while you were offline. Accounts could be sold for the price of a small car. I tried to be f2p but couldn’t do anything at a certain point until I paid for in game resources. Eventually after so many friends quit I started playing wow classic and with a regular subscription fee found I saved so much money in the long run. I still have friends that play that mobile game and wind up buying accounts for thousands of dollars only to sink more money on them just to play.

The best kind of feeling is when you are a f2p player and you get the skins that you want, with all the fragments/tickets you saved up and just brag to your friends

@grimmiekazuma2979

2 жыл бұрын

Also whisper to their ear: *f2p btw*

@rinne7244

2 жыл бұрын

@@grimmiekazuma2979 lmfaoo

@Nobody-fd8qj

2 жыл бұрын

John is this you? OMEGALUL

@blankspace7801

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nobody-fd8qj the only F2P player you would know ;) (with good luck)

@Nobody-fd8qj

2 жыл бұрын

KEKW

Those with not enough self-control while having a stable income should NOT come anywhere near these games! If you can restrain yourself, here's a free game. If you can't, here's a game that just dangles carrot sticks in front of you. Honestly, it's tough to find a middle ground even if you have the self-control 'cause in the end... You are paying them with your own time. Be it through grinding, daily logins, event participation, etc. If it ever feels like you are just checking in, step back and ask yourself if you are even playing the game anymore.

“she has a very nice voice…and personality” **proceeds to show a scene of ganyu climbing** mmmmmm

hardcore vet f2ps: look at them wasting their money and cards for in game currency when you could just play the game normally to get enough for some pulls. new f2ps: but dont they get all the stuff they want? Hardcore vet f2ps: yes, but at a great cost. new f2ps: what is it? hardcore vet f2ps: an addiction and not wanting to accept defeat when they lost the soft pity.

@idagonchannel5681

2 жыл бұрын

And guy who obsessively aim for 100% achievement: I don't give a F with the characters

@I_forgor705

2 жыл бұрын

3:44 …

@xenioralad3159

2 жыл бұрын

cosmetics are a complete waste of money in all honesty.

@Menace-To-Humanity

2 жыл бұрын

@@xenioralad3159 in some games, paying a small 5 dollars for some drip aint that bad in my opinion. but once you start spending heavy buck is where the problem begins.

@xenioralad3159

2 жыл бұрын

@@Menace-To-Humanity lol you can get skins in most games for free if you play enough so why spend.

2:18 "BUT TO GET CHARACTERS LIKE GANYU YOU HAVE TO PAY-" F2P: when?

@yongquanwu3921

2 жыл бұрын

F2p: o rly

@LurpakSpreadableButter

2 жыл бұрын

Memento Mori

@seraphiinef

2 жыл бұрын

Kekw

@richcast66

2 жыл бұрын

It's partially true. If you are f2p and either didnt save enough or got unlucky with pity, then you would have to pay before the banner ends

@haryanwar1263

2 жыл бұрын

@@richcast66 just wait for another banner, it's nothing if you are F2P to the core

9:41 She's right. Imagine getting your parents into Genshin and they get addicted to the gatcha as well so you be like : Understandable , have a day nice 🙃

@ggukiemonster

3 жыл бұрын

f2p me : sadge

@Anon-cv7ru

3 жыл бұрын

Genshin is actually quite a time sink.. so not everybody can commit to it...

@Raterex

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Anon-cv7ru Dun need time sink, just see waifu yolo only =p. Brb gonna play Genshin now~ . . . . . . joking, please dun yolo when see waifu, real life more impt ^^

@condorX2

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of those gamers are pretty young and I actually played all the games this video listed lol. They remind me when i was their age. My first memorable game was the arcade Street fighters 2 when I was 12 and I always need them quarters. Once I've learned the glitch with Guile invisible throw, I was unstoppable. I later moved onto the console gaming, pc gaming and now mobile gaming. PC gaming was the most memorable for me because I get to play my first 32 multiple players match call Team Fortess at a computer lab with the fastest connection. I think email and the world wide web was fairy new. Fast forward.. I'm on a quest to see how far I can push without spending a dime on mobile games. I'm like: "why spend the money knowing you'll quit one day and you can never take anything with you but regrets"? I know every games have an expire date and all end up getting repetitive doing the same daily quest everyday. The game developers already has your money and they'll always be laughing all the way to the bank. My way of supporting the dev is playing their game. That's the greatest honor imo. And finally, mobile games are vast and I believe nobody should stay with one game. I dare to say the same for marriage hence people had to cheat/divorced their spouse. / random 2 cents.

@twinkleegpieplayer5002

3 жыл бұрын

Me playing this because I was curious then I like abyss mage for joke and waiting cocogoat to rerun because I have enough pity: sed 😥

Genshin impact player: "i'm gonna pretend i didn't see that one"

The worst part is... when the services close then your 'investments' are gone

Finally, we have a media company willing to do a report on this growing problem that no one wants to talk about

@Raan03

3 жыл бұрын

it's not a growing problem, the problem is already here for at least a decade... it started "small" and met negative response (paid small dlc) and then somehow people started accepting it and allowing more and more... Season passes came and people got conditioned to that as well... It came to a point where you get a stripped game and need to buy double base price for the game as intended with zero day dlc's and other "cut" ingame content... and it goes further and further... lootboxes and play-to-gamble... Need for speed was a very bad example with their car upgrade-cards for example. I'm glad the backlash was big enough that they will put that plan into a fridge for at least one and a half more years before trying to condition again :')

@ohamatchhams

2 жыл бұрын

@@Raan03 The problem is still growing though, Genshin Impact's success has lead to avenues of more bigger AAA companies to recently reforming their marketing strategies with even more "live service" digital gambling formats If the government doesn't ban this, at least makes it extremely regulated that it's cut the microtransaction values at fixed prices and extremely cheap or giving pity rate of it's gambling system to the point that it's just giving fixed prices

@Zvroth

2 жыл бұрын

@@ohamatchhams the industry has been moving towards live service long before genshin.... Anyways I don't see why people single gaming out. What about these young people who spend thousands on newest iphones or uni students that buy luxury designer clothing and bags. We live in a capitalized world, there are draws for us to spend money everywhere you look. People will need to learn to manage their own resources regardless.

@kiattim2100

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zvroth did you just compared getting an actual physical stuff like Iphone or University fees to gambling for digital in-game items that worth practically nothing even when you sell your account.

@Zvroth

2 жыл бұрын

@@kiattim2100 first of all when you buy the newest iPhone, you buying into the brand value and marketing, I.e. A lot of non-tangible value too. The fact is most people don't actually need the newest iPhone in their life at all. Also you might be surprised how well some of these digital goods hold in value. Couple years ago I sold all my dota2 items and got like $5000 in my steam account, more than I paid them for. Last but not least, you do realize that money and the whole economy is just a non-tangible human construct right. The money in your bank account could also very well depreciate in value, which is why people invest in properties gold etc. The fact is we live in a capitalized world and there are traps everywhere we go, everywhere we look. It's a little stupid to single out people who spend money on games when every one of us falls into the trap in some degrees. It's just that long standing industries and corporations have better control over our govt and our legislation so their interests are well protected and are no longer questioned by public.

Loot boxes are a form of gambling... and especially worse for people without adequate self-control or have that gambling streak in them...

I totally understand this, I don't play those games in this video but other mmorpg and some fashion game, I spent so much that I'm afraid to look at the purchase history, I try to limit it now but once in a while I just can't help it

When i saw 'gamblers' and 'lootbox' on the title i was sure genshin is gonna be in here. And i wasn't wrong

I have played countless Gachas, haven’t spent a single cent and am still able to compete with paying players. It’s all luck, you spending money and you not spending doesn’t make a difference Also, gacha rates have not been touched. Some games have just outright bad rates to the point where it’s almost impossible to pull them.

@blankshorto

3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree with you. I been playing honkai since 2019(account created in 2018) and I'm doing well competitively. u can literally be completely free to play and still able to hit top ranks

@AynChat

3 жыл бұрын

@@blankshorto true, just study more on the game mechanism, usually, even low-rank unit can score reasonably well, maybe it can‘t one-shot but it sure does the job. Unless the game is all about the stat and stat are related to premium currency only, then run as far as you can.

@RENch.7359

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, f2p just need to micro manage their resources to keep up with spenders, plan which unit to pull, save up resources as much as possible etc.

@DEEZ_N4T

2 жыл бұрын

Compared to games like Love Live and Bandori, I’d say that Genshin has the best gacha rates I have ever seen, especially the Pity system, in Love Live and Bandori you only get a limited step-up before the character gets added to long list of characters in the standard gacha rates which decreases your chances of getting your favorite card, in Genshin you get guarantees

@blankshorto

2 жыл бұрын

@@DEEZ_N4T I seen better rates in other games tbh, I myself play honkai and honestly the rates there are better than genshin. there isn't a 50/50 for characters so the rate up character is always guaranteed. but yea genshin definitely has better rates than other games like u said, adding on fgo which I heard there isn't a guarantee system

This is a good issue to touch on. The fact that they brought in National Council on Problem Gambling is an eye opener. I like as well what the counselor said: Parents shouldn't say "Stop this!" etc. Understanding the game that the kids are involved in, understand the reasons would help more.

when I was a hardcore genshin player, i always buy the monthly pass and battle pass but after experiencing burn out, i become a casual player and stopped spending money in the game. maybe the key to not spending money is to not have too much attachment to the game

to be fair for games like genshin its perfectly doable to finish endgame as an f2p

@kittenmimi5326

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it is. Perfectly f2p friendly although resource does get a bit scarce in late game. Spending is just additional stuff cos some ppl are impatient (it takes what, a year for a char to rerun)

@eightex9437

2 жыл бұрын

@@kittenmimi5326 childe.

@rachmatzulfiqar

2 жыл бұрын

the problem is, they are not even trying to make people pay, and yet, they have the most revenue of all mobile games, this means their way to make people to pay for this game is effective enough. it is actually scary

@kittenmimi5326

2 жыл бұрын

@@eightex9437 True, Mihoyo's favorite child. Even if his sales ain't that great he gets rerun, rerun, rerun. And a shiny new weapon. Meanwhile xiao? Hmmm. First rerun is next year still, no dedicated artif, has BIS weapon but cmon its defo not as shiny as the new weapons;-;,

@kittenmimi5326

2 жыл бұрын

@@rachmatzulfiqar true, it's pretty shady like making raiden just bad at c0 XD. Making thoma have problems so you can fix him with constellations etc. But if people fell for it its still their fault and their choice.

I'm a mobile game developer myself. Yea, can't deny this is an easy money industry.

@BlueHaste

2 жыл бұрын

Money Laundry

6:25 For adults who play gacha games- Genshin Impact offers primos through in-game events to do wishes for characters. You just need to save it all up and not get tempted to collect every darn character since you get guaranteed character at 180 wishes. So plan ahead! Especially since they offer character re-runs every few months. And you don’t even need these characters to clear all the in game content. It’s called having the patience to resist temptation and not fall into traps lol bruh. This guy has absolutely no self-control, I guess. Also, surprised how they didn’t cover gacha games with worse rates like Dragon Raja.

@acatindisguise

3 жыл бұрын

exactly, you put it really well. genshin is definitely not as bad as gacha games because there is a guarantee (the pity system) and you can be f2p and have a few 5 stars if you do the events and save primos for the banners you want. they also don't do gacha for separate parts in a set like some other games (meaning you would have to roll for multiple things to collect the full set). might be because that kind of gacha is illegal in japan and genshin is quite big in japan. plus genshin is genuinely just a good game, you can definitely enjoy all the content with just the starter team/free to play characters. they give all the great content (graphics, story, etc) for free already

@saoifchannel3352

3 жыл бұрын

agreed, but the problem is the people.....most of them have no self-control and blame on the system....

@nix294

3 жыл бұрын

Genshin even offered us a 5 dollar monthly subscription, a bargain that won't even hurt people's finance so that we won't overspend. It's not the game most of the time, it's also the person's discipline.

@blobloblob

3 жыл бұрын

yes exactly! it still baffles me how a high quality game like genshin is totally free and also incredibly f2p friendly. obviously you can't be f2p and expect to get every character but that's not even necessary, it's just hilarious how people seriously complain about genshin giving them a gambling addiction. just say you have no self-control at this point!

@titanus2310

2 жыл бұрын

if they had any self control they wouldn't be on the show lol

so many children proud of their f2p play, i also still remember when i was 12 y/o having all the time in the world to grind on games

This is why I'm F2P in genshin.

@kittenmimi5326

2 жыл бұрын

I used to be but the welkin temptation is too strong. Still crystals are so expensive so i would not spend on that...

@valasador9439

2 жыл бұрын

You still spend money on internet, food, and alot of time

@jvgace6883

2 жыл бұрын

@@valasador9439 so food is unnecessary now

my pc gaming days where pretty different back then. Diablo 2, heroes m&m 3, deus ex, c&c red alert, half life, hitman and guild wars. It used to be so simple and straight forward with plenty of variety, no such crap as lootboxes or timegating nagging screens nonsense, content is filled to the brim with yearly expansions aka 'dlc' with actual content and best of all you pay ONE time only ONE time to experience everything the game has to offer

@nycoolj3

3 жыл бұрын

Ok boomer.

@Jonathan-Pilkington

3 жыл бұрын

I hope lootboxes will be banned in more and more countries. It is completely out of control.

@nycoolj3

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jonathan-Pilkington lol good luck with that, they make these game companies billions a year

@dhrgkbqxtjr2743

3 жыл бұрын

@@nycoolj3 Boomers are more successful and financially secure than you will ever be. Enjoy going broke during each timed event, zoomer.

@nycoolj3

3 жыл бұрын

@@dhrgkbqxtjr2743 lmao ok whatever you say boomer!

Sadly f2p most likely couldnt fight the bosses they would like to fight. However one way the government can help to combat loot box gambling is to force game dev to release probability distribution of loot box. This may deter players from attempting to open loot box

@NupplesRampage

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. That doesn't help at all. Maplestory just released the odds of tiering up your gear via Cubing. Maplers are still throwing their money despite knowing how pathetically low the percentage are.

@kaizen7195

3 жыл бұрын

@@NupplesRampage well since u play maplestory, u should know about the compensation event that was given by kms. It was required by law in korea to disclose any event that involves odds in game. So kms did a check and realise they fked up. Should there be no government intervention, people would have just happily cube/tier/roll inner ability for an expectation that would never occur. And also in gms marvel machine, they release the odds of getting bod etc. What abt maplesea? They did nt release anything as u can see in current gacha. At the first few gacha, people realise it is a scam cuz of the number of garbage that is in the gachapon. By releasing all the information, players are then able to make an informed information. Now of course there are whales out that and they have more than enough money to throw. But releasing information do help people who are emptying their pocket to play the game.

@GameFuMaster

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaizen7195 I think the other guy means they should do more. Maybe like max lootboxes to receive an exact item. i.e. open 50 boxes, and you will definitely receive skin X if you didn't already. Kind of what Ubisoft has done with alpha packs in R6 siege.

@ying1296

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't this what the CN govt did, and also forced guarantee pity to be a thing there

@Liza_F2P

3 жыл бұрын

Why don’t they just add a pity system. All the gachas I play have a pity system be in be bad or good

The most terrifying thing is *THESE GAMES ARE RATED FOR CHILDREN.* I don't care if adults gamble, their own fault. But children have access to this game, they won't read terms of condition or warning labels. Parents thinks its ok for children, because it's rated for children. They don't know what gambling addiction is!

What bothers me is that these companies and games could suddenly end. Everything that was invested would be lost.

I am very happy to see a video on this serious issue.

There are many influencers like youtubers making video on how fun it could be when you spent money on games.

I was heading this direction with saint seiya awakening when I realized no matter how much I spent on it, there were always people stronger than me, and pve adjusted accordingly as well, what is worse is that it actually became less fun cause the higher you go the more restricted the amount of characters you can use.

Sad part is that 10 to 20 year later the server goes out all your investment goes down the drain. Lol this why I going back to console and retro games playstyle. 20 year later my save files are still there. "Fun fact" old gams just work when you pop it in and no need to pay to get whatever your looking for.

This video is hugely underrated. One of the players in the game I play (Hero Wars) spent $8000 in 5 minutes in loot boxes (while all teammates got 1/10 of what he got which was how I knew the amount he spent). Perhaps he is from a very wealthy family that do not really care about the money he spent, but it could be a deadly incentive for some people tried to compete with him (which not from wealthy family) This "Loot box" tactic is a "grey area" in online gaming that no many people want to talk about. Because for gamers, you got to taste of thrill of gambling with the game you are playing; For game developers, you could extract "unlimited" amount of money from the gamers. Seems like a "win-win" situation which really is NOT. The game developers just took advantage of benefiting from players with one the deadly human nature/sin that called "greed".

@Melcor2304

3 жыл бұрын

Many people don't talk about it because they know better. They can just find a game worth their time and salt, and just play that instead of being forced to spend on that game.

@DjayTriple8

2 жыл бұрын

Very wealthy family teach the value of money... I am from one. If I spent unnecessary money i would have to work under my dad for minimum wage until I can pay it off while also contributing to rent and the electrical bill (30% and 8% of my wage would go to it) while at the same time being lectured why i just wasted the money. A lot of rich people in my age group (20 - 30) don't spend money unless they make money. Those who spend their rich parents money with no caution don't last very long in the family.

@LeranWang

2 жыл бұрын

​@@DjayTriple8 Very nice point. :) In addition, I think there could also be a possibility that the person I mentioned actually knows how to build wealth, but just decided to use a "tiny amount" (to most people are a lot of money) for "fun" (leisure activity). Which could misleading people who still in the "rat race" to imitate the "spending" without consideration of the other perspectives (as you mentioned) and suffer the consequnces.

My friend was a drug addict until I recommended him maplestory XD

@satorukaisen2559

2 жыл бұрын

Well not exactly a good way out but yeah it works

@ethankoh6851

2 жыл бұрын

My friend was an alcoholic before I recommended Bleach

@kingex3

2 жыл бұрын

@@ethankoh6851 You are talking about the anime right? Not the clorex Bleach.. right?

@oceanicmage

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingex3 ….right?

I've spent close to $4000 opening boxes with nothing to show for it. I know how gambling gamers feel.

@MrCmon113

2 жыл бұрын

That's like a decade of beer.

I live in Belgium, no loot boxes banned here, can still go crazy in hearthstone (1600 euro account already...)

The third guy Just explained spending money in a game in a nutshell "A way to show off"

it's gambling, pure and simple. I'm a gamer and i don't mind, but this scrutiny was LONG over due in Singapore, with many countries already looking at this legislatively 2 years ago.

@Anon-cv7ru

3 жыл бұрын

They should have pick up on this when EA Star Wars Battlefront 2 was in the media...

@JinrohDFLL

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anon-cv7ru Exactly, and that game had Belgium banning lootboxes in 2019. Same year, a bill to ban lootboxes was tabled at the US senate (no progress).

I'm worried for the future of gaming and people's future too. Many kids will grow in a era where mobile gaming it's full of gambling mechanics and it could ruin their lifes forever, they could grow with gambling addiction losing a lot of money trying to get their digital character or chosmetics from a videogame that have lootboxes/gacha mechanics.

It feels good to watch even handed coverage on this topic. There was representation from the users, councilors, and developer, and it wasn't used as a hit piece to condemn any one party for the problem.

$10k on gacha... meanwhile I'm sad when I see my investments losing several hundred.

@superpenguil

2 жыл бұрын

Different bro. Gacha u know the money for sure gone. Investment u hope to increase

Me everytime i ran out of the complementary money in the game: alright time to uninstall 👉

two words: self-discipline.

I used to remember Maplestory Cosmetic was really dumb, you get to keep your accessory until 3 months later and lose it. Plus those who are meta type of people will always lose more money than gaining money.

@cloudywood4197

2 жыл бұрын

It's even worse now...but i still love that game

The Loot box is the scourge of modern gaming

this is why i dont spend for random chances in game..only for guaranteed stuff

oh man the maplestory cash shop. As a kid I used to spend hours in the cash shop trying on different things I couldn't buy

As an adult gamer, I seldom use my phone, but when I do I'm impressed and concerned by the play to win aspect and how it influences kids. Leave it to Asia to show us the results years in advance.

Jokes aside: why is this news make it like it's such a big deal? Not all people spend money on games and those games are still playable even if you don't spend anything in it. It's just an over exaggerating to say that lootboxes is a dangerous. Most people who play games are already work to get money anyway

@SpacedogD

2 жыл бұрын

The game developers need to be held accountable. They are creating a virtual casino and specifically targetting those with potential gambling addictions to spend way above their capabilities. Its basically a casino on your phone without the regulations surrounding it to protect these people with gambling addiction. This applies specifically to the 0.1%, but it is this 0.1% that the developers are actually targetting. And this is dangerous, especially on minors. As a long time gamer, the rise of mobile games and lootboxes disgust me, especially with the tactics that are implemented.

@_xadrnx_6371

2 жыл бұрын

I think they over exaggerate it to prove a point like how smoke weed, cigarettes, and drugs. I think this one is to cater to children since most adults already know how to budget. kids however is a different story

@klaviergavin5401

2 жыл бұрын

mmmm i smell an addict

@equil2337

2 жыл бұрын

It's sad to see comments like this. When lootboxes were just becoming a thing, all there was was outrage and disgust about it. Now there's plenty of people saying "They're not that bad". It's confirmation that the standard has been successfully changed, people are now accepting what was previously unacceptable and these companies will continue to exploit that as much as they can. They rely on your exact mentality of acceptance to continually push the envelope to make previously unacceptable practices acceptable and have no regard for how said practices effect the end user, as long as it rakes in more cash.

As for me, I feel more satisfied when I got the item/character that I want without spend anything in the game. It also will be less painful if I lost 50/50 in the rate up.

@kittenmimi5326

2 жыл бұрын

Well grinding for a month to only c1 qiqi is still pain but yeah at least its free...

MAPLESTORY ❤️ my entire childhood. That game is older than WoW.

I can relate to this still during the old ways you need to know a seller who sells top up cards to purchase premium item. With this inconvenient for being left behind i stop playing. Right now its easy to transfer money on your favorite game.

Just treat it as an expensive lesson and move on. Usually such things need to be experienced by oneself, it's very hard to educate those that have not found themselves in that situation. Better to learn now than later.

genshin impact was my first ever garcha game and I've been enjoying the experience with it by spending around $5~$10 per month as it seemed reasonable amount to support the game. One thing I truly regret is that the banner I've wanted to roll on happened to be released on the day I was hella depressed; spent $400 impulsively. This gave me one hell of a wave of guiltiness as I've never spent such money on a single game before (I've always been a free-to-play player and only spend on games I truly enjoy (usually $10~20) . I've stopped spending money completely since then and have been free-to-play for around 5 month now; I don't intend to spend money on this game ever again and I'll make sure this will be my first and last gacha game.

@tukangojek1335

2 жыл бұрын

$400 over single banner? Bruh are you pulling weapon or aiming for c6?

@xyoopridex

2 жыл бұрын

@@tukangojek1335 nah it was weapon banner that had both staff of homa and wolf's gravestone and I was trying to get both lol. The regret is still lingering there but I've overcome my impulsiveness and haven't spent a dime for 5 months and plan to keep it that way.

ngl i spent maybe 10 dollars on genshin but after not getting that much satisfaction with the pulls i vowed never to spend again and ive been doing great so far it doesnt even feel like im progressing slow that much but i do agree it’s very tempting and something needs to change

I think the best thing would be to know how to manage your money properly, like just take 10-20% from your income or allowance to spend on the game, etc. and when you have spent it, don't use it anymore I mean I spent like $100+ on games and I don't really mind cuz like it made me some new friends and let me have fun and giving me euphoria getting onto the servers top 100(although I stoped playing some games that I have spent money on)

"That's hell you are walking into"

f2p for life

@maxayam8268

3 жыл бұрын

Time = money

@max3334441

3 жыл бұрын

Wise decision

@RonLarhz

3 жыл бұрын

Yea. I laugh at those who spent hundred n thousand but didnt get the rare digimon or card in a digital game when My free coins gave me quite a good deal even tho there were wasted coins.

@davidliu2243

2 жыл бұрын

Brawl Stars!

Back in the day, my first game that I addicted to play was 'social empire' in facebook game during 2008 - 2011. But never spend single dollar in it even though there was sort of loot box (chest), where you might able to get a stronger character (heroes/soldier/dragon) in the game. Its a fun game and I enjoyed it.

I used to be like Jen with Maplestory. But over time, the hard realization is that the happiness is short lived. With free to play they promote more spending than buying a game. I was lucky to get out of that vicious cycle of spending and to free myself from the mentality of free to play. I rather buy a full game. The only time I buy DLC is if I absolutely adore the game. I played thousand of hours on Fire Emblem Three Houses and got the DLC because of my enjoyment. I never buy DLC if it is not worth it aka Pokemon Sword and Shield. I think the only free game I played is Scrabble because no need to spend on that.

In my day, you see more than two birds on a wire, and the whole school start betting in which one flies off first. Those were the days when Singapore had overhead powerlines and telephone wires. We even bet on the exact time the teacher will enter the class by betting on the closest five second blocks. We even bet on the number of times the teacher says particular words in a period. Boy, did we have fun gambling.

The most invest I ever had with a game was COC and i have never even spend any money before quiting it, nowdays my fav games are chess after watching queens gambit😂 which literally cost 0$ to play

Such an important topic, that are not discussed enough, me myself was a victim, but luckily the habit did not inflict to me in real life. Imagine all the young gamers in the late 2000s who grew up to become a gambling addict just because of that.

@sko1beer

2 жыл бұрын

and look at how old many of them are i was down at my local bookmakers betting on real dogs and horse by the time i was 12 the world has gone mad wasting real money on game items

A few years back when I was younger, I spent almost 10k in one year on one game and it’s not even on myself, 80% of it was to help other players from poorer countries.

@kittenmimi5326

2 жыл бұрын

Waiiit how to even spend on other players?

Loot boxes is a gambling mechanism, regardless of any fancy explanations from game developers. Worst culprits are mobile games. This should be regulated if not totally banned

The golden rule of F2P games is: You pay you loose. It's all just a method of dopamine addiction digital virtual version.

Spent all of her money on a mobile game and then asks boyfriend for money so she can eat? He should've left her right then. Major red flags.

I know that CSR Racing 2 has a kind of ‘loot box’ mechanism called ‘Rare Imports’, like you win cars and rare parts, including Stage 6s. I started my own account in late May, and I won every single high stakes challenge in the storyline, including The Tempe5t ones.

@officialrevxd65channel62

Жыл бұрын

Like the cars and Stage 6 parts in CSR2 portray as characters and weapons respectively in gacha games in the loot boxes.

x50-100 pulls for guaranteed SSR unit seems fair until u realised developers are releasing new characters on weekly/bi-weekly basis :(

ain't no one blaming that guy, 'cause we all did fall for the ice queen Ganyu. lol

You have to mention stamina based games also. Where they make you wait hours to progress any further or pay for more stamina.

@reflectlight1368

2 жыл бұрын

funny how genshin is both. gacha and resin. truly fucked up system for a game that is so good otherwise.

@katiebrice1894

2 жыл бұрын

@@reflectlight1368 to be fair you can use fragile resin and transient resin from the sirenatea pot

@bltzcstrnx

2 жыл бұрын

@@reflectlight1368 IIRC these system are developed by Japanese. A lot of Japanese Mobage have both gatcha and stamina system.

My rule of thumbs for gacha is to never spend real money for more draws. I could pay for a monthly pass if it's a good deal but more is just not worth it. And if I don't get good draws I delete the game and either make a new account or play another gacha game. I also save up my draw to wait for characters that I like and not draw every banner. With this strategy I'm able to get everything I want without spending money on draws. Gachas I've played: princess connect rd, bang dream, cookie run kingdom. Gachas I've deleted: genshin, illusion connect

Great video CNA, now make a video on how this same thing happens in the stock market and the economy (you won't because an ultracapitalist society doesn't work without the irrational optimism of gamblers)

Everyone is a f2p, free to play --> force to pay Genshin is worth my money, gimme them husbandos and waifus

@imretarded4841

2 жыл бұрын

More like force to play

@MrCmon113

2 жыл бұрын

You're not forced to do anything. Those games are just like TCGs, lotteries or sports bets.

I've almost never spent money on gacha. The first time I spent money to open a loot crate many years ago was also the last time I opened a loot crate. During this time I was also learning Game Theory (not the KZread channel but using math to develop strategies) and came to the conclusion that loot boxes are much worse than blackjack. You can count cards in blackjack but you will never be certain what's inside a loot box.

i was never allowed any sort of bank account until recently so I was always a free 2 play player, and until now I still stand by the fact that you DONT need to pay games to get good stuff. Sure you can pay games to support them if you have the money for it, but if its just to try your chances to get some rare skin or cool aesthetic, especially with gacha systems, you can do it without paying, it just takes longer. so I would say paying for gachas aint exactly worth it.

@tobiyouu

2 жыл бұрын

yep this. i learned this the hard way cuz i spent $2,000 when i was young, because i didn’t know i was actually spending real money on a gacha game. now as i grow up it’s actually not bad being an f2p, it’s better for me at least to work for something i really wanna get instead of blowing my dad’s credit card the second time ;-;