Congrats from USA!!!

@mrbaab5932

14 күн бұрын

Lol

We have to remember that SpaceX has a long history of rockets blowing up or failing to land and they just kept working at it until they got it right. There is a tendency for politicians and the public not to tolerate failure which tends to steer these projects into a more conservative direction where they go with safer proven technology.

@zinjanthropus322

14 күн бұрын

Unlike the falcon 9 this is not reusable so the money is being wasted.

@DaveP-uv1ml

14 күн бұрын

@@zinjanthropus322 , it’s not entirely a failure at least it preserves their strategic goal of maintaining an independent EU launch ability. Their mistake is understandable since at the time that SpaceX really started to come into their prime they were already midway through developing this thing. And meanwhile, the vehicle was set to retire so they didn’t really have any other options. Now that it is done, they can turn their attention and resources into developing reusable technology like the Chinese are busy doing. I suspect in five years from now, everyone will have the same technology and no one will remember those few years that Europe and everyone else was behind. In a way it mirrors a lot like what Tesla is going through now as its competitors are catching up.

@Bushodai

14 күн бұрын

@@DaveP-uv1ml because SpaceX shared their patents… No way they could have done it themselves. By the time they have implemented that tech it will be antiquated. SpaceX has a record of near perfect efficiency once the product is past the iterative design phase. The iterative design process is why they’re able to develop technology at a much faster rate than everyone else that gets hung up on possible failures whilst designing their technology. Best of luck with these costly one and dones though. I can’t see there being much of a market for them other than possible military and reconnaissance satellites that will also be 2nd tier. This seems more like a vanity project more than anything.

@DaveP-uv1ml

14 күн бұрын

@@Bushodai , interative design process? What is novel about that, everybody uses it. And patents? How are you going to enforce that? these aren’t companies these are sovereign nations, and they aren’t going to consent to that lawsuit.

@Bushodai

14 күн бұрын

@@DaveP-uv1ml in terms of rocket development iterative design is novel. What lawsuit? SpaceX gave it up of their own volition. Only sue origin and ULA play that crappy game. SpaceX didn’t have to though. I’m suggesting that the E.U. Isn’t innovative they are playing catch up and until space becomes a priority and serious changes are made they will always be a step behind.

Great news for the EU! 🇪🇺🚀Ariane has an amazing reliability 🫶 Next stop - reusability!

@zinjanthropus322

14 күн бұрын

If only it wasn't immediately thrown away after single use.

@Elusive_Chicken

14 күн бұрын

​@@zinjanthropus322SpaceX until now hasn't been able to demonstrate that reusability of the booster makes rocket launches cheaper. Think about it, the rocket can carry less payload per launch, if it needs to save fuel for a soft landing. With the huge cost for every kg deployed to space this is a massive downside. As far as we know right now, reusable rockets are a gimmick that looks cool and is great for marketing, but doesn't offer real advantages.

@zinjanthropus322

14 күн бұрын

@@Elusive_Chicken Sure let's ignore that they charge the lowest prices for a space launch and instead argue about semantics

@1ndragunawan

14 күн бұрын

​@@Elusive_Chicken Ariane 62 price per flight €75M = $82M. It can launch 10350 kg to LEO or 4500 kg to GTO. Falcon 9 costs $28M per flight, and they sell it for $69.75M. It can launch 17500 kg to LEO and 5500 kg to GTO both in reusable mode. SpaceX can always undercut Ariane's price. When Starship is operational, then Ariane will get orders just from Europe. Ariane 6 is not even competitive to Falcon 9, it sure won't be anywhere competitive to Starship.Ariane 62 price per flight €75M = $82M. It can launch 10350 kg to LEO or 4500 kg to GTO. Falcon 9 costs $28M per flight, and they sell it for $69.75M. It can launch 17500 kg to LEO and 5500 kg to GTO both in reusable mode. Falcon 9 has the payload capacity and price advantages compared to Ariane 6. SpaceX can always undercut Ariane's price. When Starship is operational, then Ariane will get orders just from Europe. Ariane 6 is not even competitive to Falcon 9, it sure won't be anywhere competitive to Starship.

@lhommeaudacieux

14 күн бұрын

Ariane 6 does not stand a chance in the free market. It's more than 60% more expensive to launch than Falcon 9 and multiple times more expensive per ton than starship. As a European I am ashamed we are pouring money into this hopelessly outdated Gucci rocket.

What’s with the weird sound effects

We need to probe Uranus for gaseous emissions.

@mrdarklight

14 күн бұрын

Uranus jokes. So childish, yet always funny. :)

@TomTom-cm2oq

14 күн бұрын

New reports out of NASA that Uranus is toxic to humans.

@mrbaab5932

14 күн бұрын

Lol

Congratulations Instituto Superior Técnico 👏🇵🇹🔝

4 billion euros in develeopment. For a little bit of upgraded ariane 5 damn

💙

💖🇪🇺💖

The newscaster is attracted to the space journalist 💀

@BlueIvory4

14 күн бұрын

He is very handsome

We should ditch Ariane 6 fly spacex and use the money saved to develop Ariane 7, preferably developed by a European startup and not a bloated, inefficient French government company like Ariane Espace.

@Hans-gb4mv

14 күн бұрын

No, we shouldn't. Keep the money in Europe instead of making the richest man on earth richer, sending money to the US instead of investing it in Europe and ensuring that we keep a capability within Europe to launch instead of depending on foreign powers that could start increasing the price or even deny access at some point all together.

@Bushodai

13 күн бұрын

@@Hans-gb4mv the funny thing is this sort of thinking is going to keep make Elon money.

@patriksteffan2060

11 күн бұрын

@@Hans-gb4mv Both options will make SpaceX money. Also, why would SpaceX deny rides on their rockets? Its a private company which will try to attract customers, not the other way around. I wouldn't worry about that. Them offering rides to a competitor with satellite communication makes it even less probable they would deny them rides as well as significant price hikes. Even with those they still could be cheaper.

🤔

Lol. New rocket but already out of date 😂

I don't believe it will cheaper than spacex, too conservative, not reusable and old School production methods

@Djamonja

14 күн бұрын

No one said it would be cheaper

@Hans-gb4mv

14 күн бұрын

It doesn't have to be. The money stays within Europe and we keep an independent launch capability.

@aanandika9975

11 күн бұрын

@@Hans-gb4mv so, you have no business, most will ride on SpaceX, Chinese or Indian

Falcon 9 is still more affordable for getting European satellites up there.

@davidgreen5994

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, but is an American private company.

@Bushodai

14 күн бұрын

@@davidgreen5994 most European companies don’t care. Profits matter more than national or regional pride.

@Just_another_Euro_dude

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, let's give EVEN more EU money to the USA. Cause MOUNTAINS of euros for the LNG, F35s, Patriots, HIMARS, etc. weren't enough.

@Hans-gb4mv

14 күн бұрын

Almost the same price for a launch.

@Bushodai

13 күн бұрын

@@Just_another_Euro_dude welp what do you except when you’re still partaking in the horse trade of Space lol. Even China makes the ESA look like a joke.

Arianne 6 seem more like a politically motivated backup plan. In my opinion, Europe will not achieve its space goals with such a slow cycle rocket. ESA should pay European private enterprises to develop a reusable rocket system, as NASA is doing.

🫡🫡🫡

A DW News episode without the mention of climate change? What is going on here?

This same company's CEO laughed at the idea of reusable rockets a decade ago. Europe is too conservative and slow.

@seanoneill9130

14 күн бұрын

LOL Europe is Civilisation.

@zinjanthropus322

14 күн бұрын

@@seanoneill9130 It hasn't been so for a while.

@Bushodai

14 күн бұрын

@@seanoneill9130 was*

@Just_another_Euro_dude

14 күн бұрын

Where is the Large hadron collider? In USA, China, Russia? Or in Europe? Europe created 95% of the things worth mentioning in this world.

@zinjanthropus322

13 күн бұрын

@DutchFR1908-rj2jz If you weren't so afraid of moving fast and practicing test-to-failure you'd also have a rocket that wasn't a decade late and outdated.

This will be left in the dust by SpaceX

Nothing will ever come of it.

but still European companies for their satellitelaunching they depend on China and India

@Just_another_Euro_dude

14 күн бұрын

No. They don't. Lol 😂😂😂😂😂. How desperate are you?

useless.. & blame richard..

SpaceX is far more advanced, and far less expensive. Why not just continue using SpaceX?

@randbarrett8706

14 күн бұрын

Because that leaves Europe dependent on USA for space access. Maybe Europe doesn’t want to rely entirely on foreign rockets.

@Jeev354

14 күн бұрын

Because Elon bad

@kreb7

14 күн бұрын

If I pay elon the money come out of EU I pay Arian stay in EU

@mrbaab5932

14 күн бұрын

Because they are so far behind they have to do multiple steps to catch up. The next step will be more of a copy of SpaceX.

@MessiForever-q9l

14 күн бұрын

because for GTO orbit launches Ariane 6 is better than F9 F9 is fantastic but has lesser payload capacity, so Ariane has clear value proposition

its a copy of longmarch 5

@1ndragunawan

14 күн бұрын

No, it's a cheaper version of Ariane 5.

@r3dpowel796

14 күн бұрын

@@1ndragunawan Noo its a copy of Longmarch 5 you can tell from the design

@1ndragunawan

14 күн бұрын

@@r3dpowel796 using your logic, Long March 5 is a copy of Ariane 5. Long March 5 uses Kerosene fuel. Ariane 6 uses Hydrogen fuel. Two entirely different rockets.

Space INDEPENDENCE DAY??? This is just a "return to flight". Or "resumption of launch capability". "Independence" implies someone was tyrannically OPPRESSING Europe and artificially preventing the European space industry from making progress. This gap in launch capability is 100% the fault of Europe's own mistakes and failures to innovate and compete, just like it was America's own fault it lost the global market for commercial launches to Europe in the 90s & 2000s. Europe got lazy and complacent with Ariane 5's success and stopped paying attention.

@davidgreen5994

14 күн бұрын

So, when you become independent financially from your parents, you get liberated from oppression by your logic.

Late and obsolete.

@InquisitiveBaldMan

14 күн бұрын

Commercially it's not competative but strategically its important.

@zinjanthropus322

14 күн бұрын

​@@InquisitiveBaldMan Why? Have the Americans ever refused to transport European satellites and astronauts?

@DaveP-uv1ml

14 күн бұрын

@@zinjanthropus322 , I’m in the US and I don’t think even here we should rely totally on SpaceX given the reputation of its CEO. I’m sure fans of that guy will overlook it, but the rest of us can’t do that.

@bennie1138000

14 күн бұрын

The problem is Musk will have the Starship Enterprise flying and making profits long before Europe catches up with reusability and increased launch cadence

@DaveP-uv1ml

14 күн бұрын

@@bennie1138000 , OK if he produced the starship enterprise, how is he going to fuel it? I guess he’ll have to ask the Europeans if they can spare the tiny bit of antimatter they are producing in the super collider currently the world’s largest source of it, which isn’t even enough to move the thing if it were real.

Good to EU.First step decouple with US.

@Bushodai

14 күн бұрын

Say hi to Pooh Bear for me.

@ritaawudey4451

14 күн бұрын

Hello Bot, Europe and the US will always be allies.

This isn’t competitive at all! Europe space industry is weak

@Just_another_Euro_dude

14 күн бұрын

Educate yourself better. MUCH better. ESA made many things that were first in history of the mankind.

Nothing to worry... Russians will not shoot down this one... For now! 😂😂😂😂😂

@mutkaluikkunen3926

13 күн бұрын

bwhahaha.. ruzzian aa systems can't even protect themselves.

Nothing to worry... Russians will not target this one... For now! 😂😂😂😂😂

Total waste.