When developers say *sustainable development*, they really mean "*sustaining profits*," rather than creating communities that won't exhaust natural resources.

@holykissme

2 жыл бұрын

SDG means 55gal/capital per day will be reduced to 45. and monitored. and fined for violations. They're right. no grass. no Garden. no pets. no washing your car. a 3 minute shower with barely enough for laundry. until there is none left.

@tedartdobyns2048

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@jctr4559

2 жыл бұрын

@@holykissme Sounds just lovely. Agenda 21 - Agenda 30 (United Nations and WEF agenda). “SUSTAINABILITY” Meaning, live in misery.

@scottbrenham1341

2 жыл бұрын

In the north eastern region lots of major construction going on. We are lucky it's not the desert.

@mustangracer5124

2 жыл бұрын

They will be long gone to Fla or Texas with the cash for new mansions..

To all those who live in the Phoenix-Tucson area. The FACT that this guy said, "We can handle a million more people" says everything you need to know. When your house is worthless and you can't move--remember this program. When you can't move and you have no water for showers, laundry and drinking--remember this program. When the area has an AVERAGE summer temperature of 105 degrees and you can't leave--remember this program. Until then...Don't Look Up!

@evanmitton5007

2 жыл бұрын

And Birds are not Real, ha ha doing the back stroke in the river denial 🤣

@theupsndowns8161

2 жыл бұрын

💯

@jjano2320

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know how people could buy a home knowing a crash could be comming.

@garygrinkevich6971

2 жыл бұрын

Another chilling warning for the deregulated states, AZ lost its ground water rights to the city of LA over 100 years ago for a bag of marbles and a sarsaparilla in the great rober baron poker game/horse race of 1849. play stupid games win stupid prizes.

@valerierogers9609

2 жыл бұрын

The elephant 🐘 in the room - TOO MANY PEOPLE

You can hear the discomfort in the developers' voices during the interviews. They're making it up as they go along. They're in it for whatever money they can pull out of it, they're in deep enough that they've got to see it through, get some units sold. Borrow water from here, steal it from there, truck it in. The situation is dire enough that this shouldn't even gain any traction, these projects should be halted, profits be damned, but King Dollar beckons. What do you do years down the road when you owe big bucks on a house with no water? Sell it to whom? For pennies? Further, does it bother not ones conscience that your new, unsustainable developments are robbing water from others? Many of whom have been in place prior to the present, 20+ year drought situation?

@MrMacky-co6zn

Жыл бұрын

I remember my incredulity while watching senate hearings about tobacco, as a tobacco executive said that cigarettes were no more addictive than a morning cup of coffee. Industries turn their employees into self serving liars

Developers and city bureaucracy just don’t care as long as they get their money on the front end. They don’t care about the long term consequences or who suffers as long as it isn’t them. You can’t tell me they didn’t see this coming a decade ago. WHY building permits are still being issued under these circumstances is beyond comprehension. Greed at the cost of the environment is all it amounts to. It’s all it has ever amounted to.

@utistudent099

2 жыл бұрын

This metro area has been trampled by greed for decades and this greed is increasing as the water supply dwindles. I can not even imagine how it will feel to live in this place in 2060. It will be a horrible quality of life for sure with severe water restrictions and heat well beyond 120 f as already predicted by several scientific models

@diankreczmer6595

2 жыл бұрын

Real estate developers and construction will get their money from people buying their homes. But the fools that buy these homes will run out of water!

@sammitorn5326

2 жыл бұрын

Vote.

@diankreczmer6595

2 жыл бұрын

@@sammitorn5326 vote for who? Who is specifically saying they will solve this probkem?

@kenyonbissett3512

2 жыл бұрын

Homes need to be more water efficient. Roof water in cisterns. Shower water and laundry water need to be cycled for toilets. No new private swimming pools, existing pools need to use roof water to recharge and use plastic ball technology to reduce evaporation. No top load washers. Businesses need plans to decrease water usage 5% a year or more. Greater energy efficiency.

It isn't about sustainability it's about the money, they develop so they can make exorbitant profits for sardine crammed developments. They do not care about the future, they care about the profit.

@danieldaniels7571

2 жыл бұрын

You're close. They're actually unsustainable sprawling developments, which is even worse.

@kathyerb3134

2 жыл бұрын

bring in water by helicopter, trucks like u do for milk trucks or to fill up swimming pools , to dry areas. another idea, in a desert, u need to remember, there is no real water. so in my mind, dont build on desert. same ideas as in buildi😢in areajs of high flooding. dont build there.

@bennysapien4148

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@muffs55mercury61

2 жыл бұрын

I'm originally from Phoenix (left in 1990) and we were saying that in the early 1980s that there would be a severe water crisis in the future. Developers built, took their millions and high tailed it out of there back east or wherever they came from. I'm told many of those houses have suffered serious issues for a long time (water leaks, kitchen cabinets falling apart and much more) Yep they took the money and ran.

@danieldaniels7571

2 жыл бұрын

@@muffs55mercury61 Phoenix and Maricopa County water and flood management has actually improved by leaps and bounds since the early '80s. Sure, many developers are just in and out to get their profits, but SRP is on it for the long haul and takes water management and conservation very seriously.

Tough choices?. Like telling a development company they have NO right to make billions, like telling people they don't really have the right to move here, like deciding that AZ is supporting as big a population as it can. Like those hard choices.

@efgarizona950

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@cbrashsorensen

2 жыл бұрын

thanks you very wise words. I live in Santa Fe. A study was done about 3 years ago indicating there was "adequate water" during a multi-year drought for 50,000 people. When you add in the American Oligarch's who have set up homes and other growth factors we are at 80,000. Next spring we will put our house on the market to escape this madness. Dying pinions, dying juniper, super water cost increases, forest fires, washing car restrictions. Nah...we are leaving. The smell of money is just too much for the corrupted in our state and local government to turn away.

@garygrinkevich6971

2 жыл бұрын

But how will they attract "job creators" from California? The whole sales pitch of red states is "Are you tired of paying/caring about where you live? Move here so you don't have to!"

@jeremyhorne5252

2 жыл бұрын

Re: the developers? The word "criminals" comes to mind.

@tonymouannes

2 жыл бұрын

@@garygrinkevich6971 phoenix will soon be as expensive as LA, not sure why everyone comes to the desert and willing to pay as much as in a nicer climate.

Stop! Just stop building! We can't sustain the amount of people that keep moving here! More asphalt and concrete, the worse the heat bubble. This means no more rain. Monsoons, nothing but wind and dust. No water. Stop it!! Az native and it's sad to see what's happening.

@tomgaffney1035

2 жыл бұрын

Time to move to Maine....

@alexzabala2154

2 жыл бұрын

Time to sell and leave

@mommo2727

2 жыл бұрын

I did leave the valley. Still have family there. They're the ones paying the price.

@steveeddy6876

2 жыл бұрын

Good point assfault does reflect and store a lot of heat!

@cdawg9149

2 жыл бұрын

Eventually human greed will be our downfall. We will all be vaporized with a big fat bank acct. Thats important to have before we die.

Recycling their tears after realizing how stupid it was to buy a house in a place that has no water ?

@steveeddy6876

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm how about Recycled Piss?

@danieldaniels7571

2 жыл бұрын

More efficient to recycle their piss

@garygrinkevich6971

2 жыл бұрын

The whole thing is a burrito of comedy: golf courses, lawns, feeble retirees - "But what happens when the climate change they lived they're lives denying comes to their home town, staring Rob Schneider"! - Gold

@secondact7151

2 жыл бұрын

I watched a report about pine Arizona. Rich people whining cause their water supply failed after forty years of warning. One lady drilled 750 feet to hit NO water.

dont build towns in such hostile places

Arizona is being ruined with crap like this. Growing up in AZ was awesome but as I get older I feel more and more that the state I grew up in will be unrecognizable in a short while😪 I miss the days where I could go swimming almost everyday of summer in a river or lake, ride my go kart in a wash or get home from school and watch Steve Nash go off on (my 45). Too many people that dont like our way of life have moved here 😪

@steveeddy6876

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm yes I heard a lot of retired folks move there well old people don't drink much water

@Rubenclub23

2 жыл бұрын

@@neverthree_putts3655 you the one bringing up illegals bruh not me🤷🏻‍♂️

@dianejensen3420

2 жыл бұрын

Same thing has happened in Colorado - don't recognize my state anymore....

@randallsmerna384

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rubenclub23 illegal aliens are another large factor.

@diane8038

2 жыл бұрын

I grew up in AZ too. what I remember from the 80s and what it's turned into is horrifying. Nature has been replaced. It's so sad.

Projects like this in the southwest are unsustainable. The greed of planners and politicians will be the ruin of cities that might survive if we all start acting responsibly now.

@t.c.a.3335

2 жыл бұрын

So who was it that voted in the DEMOCRATS?... LMAO...

@georgebrummer3038

2 жыл бұрын

@@t.c.a.3335 that has nothing to do investor speculation greed .

@t.c.2776

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgebrummer3038 Really?... then how come it's mostly Democratic run cities that seem to screw the people and the population and then scream environmental climate change?... LOL... Politicians are speculators and corrupt... Dems are worse...

@howardaltemus9814

2 жыл бұрын

Too late!!!

@RichardFStripeRendezvous

2 жыл бұрын

We needed to start acting responsibly 50 years ago. We're all just along for the ride at this point.

Developers like this should be tried by jury, and if convicted, jailed. Greed at the expensive of human lives isn't a crime for some reason?

@mikedegregorio9113

2 жыл бұрын

And who are the brainiacs that decided to sell them the state land?

@stevemcraemanager7119

2 жыл бұрын

This is capitalism you sound like a communist.

@michaelellringer5600

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikedegregorio9113 They have 2nd homes in TX and FL, in case the water runs out, even the Governor of AZ and legislators and the politico's in Nevada.

@videoettaceo8900

2 жыл бұрын

Quit voting QOP.

@cdawg9149

2 жыл бұрын

Cmon man. We humans are a greedy little lot. Dont pretend your not.

Their Planning department should be held accountable (FIRED) for this mess

@muffs55mercury61

2 жыл бұрын

Management or planning of all kinds has never been their specialty or something they're good at. Glad I've long since left that mess.

@MrTweetyhack

2 жыл бұрын

Hanged

Man, who would of thought that it would be difficult to get water in the desert?!

@Thinker0822

Жыл бұрын

I know right?!?! Look at Saudi Arabia or Kuwait...

As someone who grew up in Phoenix, I was always amazed that the golf courses get so much priority for water. I get that its $$$ for the area but the amount of water used for the golf courses is crazy.

@steveeddy6876

2 жыл бұрын

Golf is more important than washing your dishes 😉

@danieldaniels7571

2 жыл бұрын

Golf courses use reclaimed grey water

@cdawg9149

2 жыл бұрын

@@danieldaniels7571 I know. I helped add to the reclamation this morning at around 8 am.

@garygrinkevich6971

2 жыл бұрын

when those golf courses go the retired population of az will riot en mass.

@Greeneggsandham123

2 жыл бұрын

Water is water whether it’s reclaimed or not. Where does all this massive amount of reclaimed water come from? Don’t you have water treatment facilities that clean all the water that is flushed, washed, bathed, laundered down the drain? Does all water goes to septic systems instead of water treatment facilities? Sounds more like something golf courses tell people so they can keep wasting water and get away with it.

Greed drives it all! I'm up in the inland northwest, but same thing happening here ... people moving in like crazy. We have the water, but it's sad to see extremely fertile river valley land turned into houses, then realize how much we are depending on places like Mexico for our food. No one seems to care about balanced approaches, only dollars!

@shortattentionspangarage1312

2 жыл бұрын

Go cry about it... Thanks to Boomers and immigration we have a substantial population increase and thanks to the Information Age some places make more sense to move than others. In 30 years they'll be called "Climate Refugees" and they'll be flooding the northern Midwest.

@jayb6291

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@arch3088

2 жыл бұрын

The current trend is to pave over good farm land for housing/cities and farm the desert.

@user-rn3rn6nl3h

2 жыл бұрын

Population control

People move into the desert and complain about not having water is like someone moving next to an airport and complaining about noise.

No new developments should be made at all through out arizona and no tech companys using crazy amounts of water need to be being built here. We need to fix up the areas we have that are falling apart.

@yowsers6475

2 жыл бұрын

💯

@woodfamily5229

2 жыл бұрын

I love you. Please run for office.

@randallsmerna384

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, won't happen because it's just too damn sane.

@TheWillvoss

2 жыл бұрын

Blame your elected officials that make it alluring to developers to come to your city. And take bribes. Also its the entire party that does this nation wide. All sides. Ill wait.

Anyone who buys a home there is missing common sense ! There is no way I’d buy a home there !

I live in Queen Creek and it’s revolting how much this place has changed from a small little town to just another city full of traffic and it’s going to get hundreds of times worse before I have a chance of getting out of here. If people like city life so much there are plenty of cities west of here for you to move to. I don’t understand.

@smokeyxdaxbear97

2 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure if you own a home in QC you can sell it and move anywhere else in the country and have tons of cash left over to spare…

@dwizzleusa4202

2 жыл бұрын

Big cities = more government control

@jeremyhorne5252

2 жыл бұрын

The whole southwest is in a drought, and it is going to get worse at a faster rate.People simply can't move to these areas.

@muffs55mercury61

2 жыл бұрын

I used to go thru there often in the early 1980s and it was all farms and few people. Most of the main roads east of Alma School Rd or south of Elliott Rd were still dirt back then. My cousins lived for a few years in Gilbert when it only had about 2000 residents before moving to Colorado. I left the Valley in 1990.

@viewfromthehillswift6979

2 жыл бұрын

When I lived in Phoenix in the 1970s it was apparent that the Valley's major industry was its own growth, which (obviously) couldn't go on forever. Looks like nobody there has figured out the end game yet.

Arizona native here. This used to be a great place. Some development was needed. It was never meant to handle this many people. Over development has ruined AZ. I hate to see what it has turned into

@Somewhere-In-AZ

2 жыл бұрын

I was born 35 miles north of Phoenix. Now it’s border is 2 miles from where I grew up. Change was expected, just not this fast. Wow! Our well went dry decades ago. Too broke to move.

@edj3377

2 жыл бұрын

Every vacant lot or nook and cranny they are squeezing in homes or apartments.. I love Az but I dont see why so many people moving here.

@mcelroychandler6267

2 жыл бұрын

Me too, lived hear since 1961,starting to look for greener pastures. Az has been over run with too many people and not nearly enough water to sustain it.

@coffeepandacat

2 жыл бұрын

This is a desert. It wasn't sustainable building cities in a desolate wasteland to begin with.

@mcelroychandler6267

2 жыл бұрын

I have seen incredible growth in Az since I moved here in 1961. By mid 80's it reached a good population level and unfortunately had just exploded population wise. It's not going to long befor the rural areas are going to be sacrificed by feeding their water rights to the Phx metro area. When the CAP largely runs out I think you are going to see a mass exodus from the state after whatever groundwater supplies are gone because there will be no more water to keep Az going. This state runs on unholy amount of growth for now which there is just not any water to take care of in the long run. Even if the drought ends, Az is in trouble.

We used to live in Gold Canyon, we move out due to overcrowded roads and daily road rage. All Pinal County can think about is build more houses. Developers make millions and crowd in more people.. Does anyone have a concern about highways? Hwy 60 has been overcrowded and a mess for years, nothing ever mentioned about building new roads, just bring people and more traffic.. Not to be negative, but for residents in the east valley it would be a blessing if this got shut down due to no water supply.

@TheCattledog2

2 жыл бұрын

They are building a freeway from us 60 to I10 by elo. & us 24 that will run east & west also. Its all ready funded. & 400 million 8s going to I10 from phx to casa grande. So yes they are building roads. & interstates. Now your informed enough to do your own research. & stop rudypooing stuff you obviously have no clue about.

@counterculturevulture1917

2 жыл бұрын

North AJ here. While we're fully developed on this side of the 60 (for the most part) I worry about how this is going to effect traffic, weather, etc. We barely get rain as it is but let's keep building more concrete jungles.

@TheCattledog2

2 жыл бұрын

@@CarportCarl than he can complain with facts behind his complaints. Instead of complaining with his opinion. Which is so uniformed it's scary to people that actually know the facts.

@craigevan9649

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been in GC since 2017. From a SoCal native’s perspective, East Valley is far from being crowded, ruined, congested, etc. If anyone should have a tale of woe, it’s us SoCal natives that saw our wonderful location completely overrun by everyone coming from literally all over the world. Be happy - many GOOD people from CA have, and are coming.

@timmick6911

2 жыл бұрын

The reneasance festival traffic is horrible too!

Don't move to AZ. Stay away

@michaelmullin7941

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto for Texas.

@dianejensen3420

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto for Colorado.

@AGhostInTheMachine

2 жыл бұрын

As long as people keep breeding, producing more humans, their offspring have to live somewhere, each wanting a slice of the planet of their own. Realize this is the true source of the overall problem, and ask yourself did you contribute to the problem, and are you just a hypocrite complaining about the problem you helped create.

@taxthesocialist2602

2 жыл бұрын

Don't move to Pennsylvania. I'm sick and tired of city punks destroying every inch of free land with more housing!!

This is insane…. I cannot believe this is life

Anybody know a petition to sign to STOP all these New communities happening all over AZ.

@satanbirmingham911

2 жыл бұрын

Yes please. I will happily go door to door

@GalileonPrime

2 жыл бұрын

Too little, too late. Need to cut back population to sustainable levels. If you really want to save Arizona, move away. Alternatively; you can hang on till the taps run dry THEN move away, being unable to sell your home as a consequence.

@randallsmerna384

2 жыл бұрын

Call your Congress people. Call the governor's office.

@steven4315

2 жыл бұрын

Arizona is a very pro development red state. Your petition will give them a chuckle.

@CamGiaCrixus

Жыл бұрын

Sad 😔 it's called " Move back East"😜

I bet they won't disclose the lack of water to potential buyers

@jackiej5319

2 жыл бұрын

True that, but I can't imagine anyone NOT knowing about the shortage.

@jgmgreen01

2 жыл бұрын

@@steven4315 Las Vegas too

@XenusMama

2 жыл бұрын

@@steven4315 why? How are you profiting from this unwanted growth? Are you related to the developers?

@steven4315

2 жыл бұрын

@@XenusMama I was speaking in jest, nobody trust developers or politicians.

@steven4315

2 жыл бұрын

@@XenusMama I deleted my post and modified my answer to you.

Why do y’all keep insisting on bringing people to Arizona? There’s enough!!!! We get like 2 inches of rain and y’all wanna use valuable water that we don’t have!??

@Anthony-hu3rj

2 жыл бұрын

It's greedy (and sick) developers working hand-in-glove with Republican lawmakers who for immediate gain sell our future. What a state.

@heidireaves5363

2 жыл бұрын

No Arizonan wants more people. The backwards government wants more money so they support growth.

@philosopher8888

2 жыл бұрын

But think of the GDP and the interesting food!

@heidireaves5363

2 жыл бұрын

@@philosopher8888 they have good food everywhere. What GDP? Arizona is a desert state that people treat like it has water.

@philosopher8888

2 жыл бұрын

@@heidireaves5363 I was the mocking the world view that the only thing that matters is GDP and various interesting restaurants.

If Southwestern United States wants unrestricted water rights they're going to have to tap into an inexhaustible water source like the Pacific Ocean to fulfill their needs.

@adancer3592

2 жыл бұрын

They better start working at it faster

@malibustacy3606

2 жыл бұрын

Expensive but doable.

@harleyv1969

2 жыл бұрын

Desalination creates the super-toxic Brine which then must be handled and stored carefully.

@malibustacy3606

2 жыл бұрын

@@harleyv1969 Desalination is a "caring for the needs of humans" solution....period.

@jabreck1934

2 жыл бұрын

Santa Barbara Desalinization plant opened 30 years ago

Fact is, they won't. The aquifers are drying up, along with the Colorado River. There most likely won't be enough water for basic necessities such as drinking, bathing, etc. And to build something like this is incredibly irresponsible. Fortunately for me, I live very close to the Illinois and Mississippi rivers...

A million people living in a desert with no water. What could go wrong?

Why continue to develop? Just pure greed? If water is so scarce just stop the constant development. It’s getting so crowded out here in the east valley and QC area there needs to be a building slowdown or stop to preserve the remaining quality of life.

@golden.lights.twinkle2329

2 жыл бұрын

People keep breeding orcoming over the southern border, 5000 per week, 2.5 million per year. They all have to live somewhere.

Have these developers taken a trip up to Lake Mead? The Colorado River is drying up. Hope they aren't seriously counting on the Colorado as the water supply for a million more people.

@pedro72246

2 жыл бұрын

It's drained every spring. Fake emergency. Go see it in 3 months when it is 50' higher ok karen

@leerogers8881

2 жыл бұрын

Lake Mead is dropping annually and is almost about to have to shut down the boat ramps and close entirely. Large sections are now land locked and just mud as the water is all gone.

This is crazy. No matter how they spin it, unless each structure is designed with roof-water catchment systems. I live in Tucson and things have to change. Now.

@michaelellringer5600

2 жыл бұрын

Thank God Tucson is anti-growth! We're a bit smarter here in Tucson!

@jeremyhorne5252

2 жыл бұрын

It puzzles me why these canals are not covered. The evaporation must be millions of gallons daily. Every summer it gets up to 120 degrees or so.

@fernandgamboa2848

2 жыл бұрын

Not a bad idea , but in order for them to work , rain has to take place otherwise is just nice decorations up in your roof

@buckroger6456

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelellringer5600 anti growth?! Um they are building like crazy in Tuscon, just not at Phoenix levels of crazy.

@michaelellringer5600

2 жыл бұрын

@@buckroger6456 I would love to see proof of that! Perhaps Marana, but not Tucson.

the real question is.....what people would build their house on a desert?

@Anthony-hu3rj

2 жыл бұрын

Where do you live?

@deadringer2349

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anthony-hu3rj in the city

@golden.lights.twinkle2329

2 жыл бұрын

People who hate rain!

And didn't we just lose about 80 million gallons of water with the pipe break on the Superstition Fwy! Our golf course in Phoenix is dead because we have no water! We need to get proactive about the present and worsening water shortage here in AZ.

@lossmitigationcollectorper9725

2 жыл бұрын

Agree! But people are walking around in La La land and have no clue of what’s going on

@heidireaves5363

2 жыл бұрын

Even though golf courses use grey water, that can be used elsewhere.

@garcjr

2 жыл бұрын

The pipeline break does go back into the aquifer. But the aquifer itself is not a sustainable long term solution.

@efgarizona950

2 жыл бұрын

@@garcjr Oh, I did not know that, thank you.

@steveeddy6876

2 жыл бұрын

Whaaaaaat no water in the Desert I'm Shocked!

Focusing on the infrastructure is important…not building in a desert is too. Greed doesn’t “think”!

@schmittyconstanz

2 жыл бұрын

Greed doesn't care

I used to live in Arizona decades ago. Do the houses downtown still have flood irrigation for their yards? Ah, the good old days when there was plenty of water per capita. Crazy that such a project would be considered these days.

@mewtwo255200

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t know about downtown, but Mesa has it.

@heidireaves5363

2 жыл бұрын

The state only cares about growth, which means money.

@danieldaniels7571

2 жыл бұрын

My neighborhood still has it.

@muffs55mercury61

2 жыл бұрын

They did as of 2014 but I haven't set foot in that area since so don't know. There are very few houses downtown anymore. So much of historic Phoenix has been razed for high rises & so-called redevelopment. I moved 32 years ago.

@jctr4559

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, In the Arcadia neighborhood and central Phoenix (it’s in sporadic locations). We still have it and pay an irrigator to turn on the water flow, if you don’t want to get up at 3:00 in the morning at times.

My spouse dream has been to live in Arizona since 2000. So we went to Bullhead city to see some houses. One was build on top of the high elevation mount and has no tree around to cover to cool the house. The temperature was 118 F at midday. I looked around. Nothing can grow on that soil. No water source accessible. If electricity goes off for long time, you are cooked. Now 2022 he still want to live there.I told him he can divorce me and go live there. I already see that it is not sustainable.

@muffs55mercury61

2 жыл бұрын

Bullhead is often one of the hottest towns in the entire state (and Lake Havasu City is a close 2nd) The heat didn't bother me but all this growth did so I left and never to return.

@koreyb

2 жыл бұрын

Good for you! Someone has to tell people to stop moving to Arizona. It is unstainable.

@crazychicken7125

2 жыл бұрын

good or you

@fernandgamboa2848

2 жыл бұрын

118 degrees and no shade why does he wants to live there ? If in 22 years he hasn't change he isn't going to change soon

@coffeepandacat

2 жыл бұрын

Whats so good about AZ?? It's really not that great I don't see the appeal, it's ugly. There are better states with sun

AZ resident since 2013 here. Tucson first and now Phoenix. Farming water intensive crops in a parched desert is what consumes the most water. It's 59 times more than residential use. It's absurd. Also, I think we should cover the canals with solar panels to cut down evaporation loss and make power at the sane time without having to do environmental impact studies or use up new land.

@koreyb

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, true, and good ideas, but still way too many people have moved into Arizona for it to be sustainable. I don't think there is currently a solution that will work long term in Arizona. There is no legal way to force people to move away from Arizona, but that is about all that would work. It will happen eventually voluntarily when it becomes a nightmare for people to live there. There will be millions of refugees fleeing Arizona with nothing more than the shirts on their backs.

@Intentspunk19

2 жыл бұрын

That's a lot of solar panels. Smart thought though if possible.

@vijayanchomatil8413

2 жыл бұрын

You aren't a resident yet, you are just a visitor being here for 9 years, and yet you want to tell us how to manage our water?

@Intentspunk19

2 жыл бұрын

@@vijayanchomatil8413 drop the pride, be open to ideas.

@nicklockard

2 жыл бұрын

@@Intentspunk19 Yes it is, but it can be done in a piece-wise, modular fashion. By that I mean we could just start with the parts of the canal nearest to a sub-station to minimize hookup costs and add more panels later. We could also do an A/B experiment where we try a floating array (supposedly more efficient because they run cooler) versus an overhead array , in literally the same location. Then after a year or so. we could analyze the total running costs (including CAPEX and maintenance) and scale up the one that seems to make more sense long-term. Either way, there are no environmental analysis costs because this land is already part of the 'built environment', so permitting should be fast and easy.

Holy cow, these developers are playing with real people's lives. I hope home buyers have the good sense not to buy a home where there is no water. At some point the rivers will be dry and the only option will be aquifers from the Gulf of California or the Pacific Ocean and de-salination, but I am not sure this is even possible. The commenters on this post are correct, their properties will be worthless. Hopefully, the loan underwriters won't loan money to people who will probably need to abandon their homes in the next 10 years.

The bigger question is how many of them are going to drink water exposed to radiation from nuclear bomb testing when they buried them in the ground

@cdawg9149

2 жыл бұрын

Just dont test the water.

@doradavid4408

2 жыл бұрын

There is no ground water where the testing was done. No water at all. That is why that area was chosen. I lived in Vegas (1980-2019) when testing was still going on. Testing stopped in1992. There was a treaty with Russia. That treaty has expired. There doing to AZ what they did to Vegas. They destroyed a great town. And there not going to stop building until people stop buying or the water literally runs out.

@allencharlei8351

2 жыл бұрын

@@doradavid4408 do you have every right to tell you self whatever lie you want next you're going to tell me there was no Fallout in the north and Midwest

@allencharlei8351

2 жыл бұрын

@@doradavid4408 there is a treaty by those countries to do underground testing not above-ground testing I'm sorry you like convincing yourself of allies but 1940 is not 1980

@golden.lights.twinkle2329

2 жыл бұрын

When they glow in the dark it will save electricity.

I moved to Az in 79. I’m so disgusted by all this growth spawned by greed.

Tough choices as in telling developers and investors no and hell no. Than yes i agree, im so done with this growth and investors making everything expensive and out of staters making it worse

@joannepackus5736

2 жыл бұрын

The rich and there greed. Can't get enough! I wonder how much the rent is in that guys office. That is why he has to make all the money off this place so he can pay to look down on the rest of us. Water be damned.

“It’s a 50 year development” is code for “I’ll be dead then it will be someone else’s problem”

For the love of God, it's a damn desert. With no access to water, why build? Stupid is as stupid does. The homeowners in the end will be the ones to suffer.

@Anonymous4212

2 жыл бұрын

@Tim Hillard thank you 💯👏 I've been saying this same exact things for so long the desert doesn't support this kind of infrastructure but they still just don't get it you can't teach people how to be smart unfortunately or how to actually use there brains to think.

@steveeddy6876

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm what no water in the Desert I'm Shocked!

@golden.lights.twinkle2329

2 жыл бұрын

We do get rain! We have a monsoon season and sometimes the roads flood.

@Kisthename928

2 жыл бұрын

@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 northern az gets well over 20 inches of rain most people don’t know that lol

This video just randomly popped up on my news feed. It serves as a great reminder of how fortunate I am to live in Buffalo NY where fresh water is bountiful and cheap.

@jackiej5319

2 жыл бұрын

Hah! I hear ya. I'm in Wisconsin and also consider myself lucky now. But....just wait until all those people need somewhere to move to or someone taps our/your water to send it 2,000 miles west! It will be unsustainable then also. Smaller towns suddenly inheriting thousands of people that they aren't prepared to. Then it will be OUR mess too. Good thing I'm 70 and don't have much longer to worry about it. =]

@golden.lights.twinkle2329

2 жыл бұрын

But sunshine and blue skies are a rarity. Here we get blue skies and sun almost every day. I never have to wear a coat and wear a jacket only a couple of days a year. I hardly ever even wear socks, I live in sandals.

@Tecumseh4-k2z

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of these people are from your state, including Wisconsin!

Way to go, gready developers... Over price and no water 🤣

Ghost towns of the 2030's

I love how anybody whose been here between 20-30 years thinks they're some kind of pioneer. That's right, been here since before freeways and sports teams.

@zachsh

2 жыл бұрын

I think you're mistaken. Being somewhere for 20-30 years doesn't make you think you're a pioneer. It makes you think it's your home. And it is.

@steveeddy6876

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm maybe give the place back to the Native Americans they lived there for Thousands of years without golf course s or Flush Toilets!

@evanmitton5007

2 жыл бұрын

Are you ready to run away yet🤣😂

@WindyYucca

2 жыл бұрын

My Grandpa moved to Phoenix from Iowa in 1942 with my Grandmother and 4 boys one my Dad. He said he could of bought as much land as he wanted for pennies back than but wondered who in the world would want all this desert. Crazy to think now it's all city.

900,000 people on over 240sq miles. That’s extremely poor land use

@jeremyhorne5252

2 жыл бұрын

Re: "poor land use"? I'd use the word "insane", followed by "greedy", followed by "stupid".

The forestization of the Sahara desert is something we should seriously be looking into. It's changed weather patterns that have kept the newly planted forest alive. More plants = cooler temperatures = more rain and snow. They can all be native plants specific to the region, of course.

@melimoo6656

2 жыл бұрын

How about stopping the deforestation of the Amazon for a start?

@jamessang5027

2 жыл бұрын

Any references?

@scottowensbyable

2 жыл бұрын

@@melimoo6656 Ive been to Brazil. Nobody is going tell them what to do with their own country.

@counterculturevulture1917

2 жыл бұрын

@@melimoo6656 cool. Let me know when you figure that out and I'll join your cause. Meanwhile, maybe we should care about what happens at home for once.

@counterculturevulture1917

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamessang5027 you can search YT. Sahara forestation

Farming takes thousands upon thousands of gallons of water, so houses going in place of farm land is a wash. Houses going in place of desert is when you’ll see ground water dry up.

Moved to Scottsdale in 2005. Paid $850 for a condo on a golf course. Rent just increased to $2000!! The water situation is frightening and all the building and traffic has ruined a beautiful place. Left AZ 2 weeks ago for the midwest. At least they have water!! Still not cheap even here to live. I miss the former AZ.

@jaym1244

2 жыл бұрын

Will be doing the same here in a few months

Las Vegas is pretty much doing the same thing, just insane. We're at around 1.2 C over our 1880 baseline and could hit 1.5 C by the end of this decade. These are global average temperatures so will feel effects globally not just Southwestern states.

Anyone who has done even a bit of research knows that future wars will be over water not oil. It is a scarce commodity and in some parts of the world, there are already conflicts over water. California, Airzona and Neveda do not have enough water for a fourth of their population. When the water runs out or is trucked in and costs more than your mortgage every month, the value of your home will be 10% of what it is now. Keep that in mind before you take the plunge and commit to a house or mortgage. Unfortunately, by the time most people realize that it is time to abandon ship, the house values will have plummeted so low that people will have to walk away from their investment and start over again with a bankruptcy and foreclosure on their record making it almost impossible to stand up again for many. Please think and think hard about this situation, I gain no pleasure and a little bit of pain thinking that individuals and families will be homeless and broke!

@jeremyhorne5252

2 жыл бұрын

In fact, there is a book out about the water shortage out there, called "Water Wars".

@ExtrovertedCenobite

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremyhorne5252 Yes author is Vandana Shiva, I have been thinking about purchasing that book, thank you for mentioning it and reminding me, I am in the process of ordering. Been wanting to read it for a while now.

My stepfather was a developer in Arizona. The laws at that time were that you cannot get approved for any development unless you can insure at least 100 years of water supply. Surprised this development got approval.

@edj3377

2 жыл бұрын

Greed is the main driver..

@TheWillvoss

2 жыл бұрын

Its easy to pay off republicans. For one. They have no solutions. Example. Arizona.

@steven4315

2 жыл бұрын

Pay me enough money and I will write a report that will promise water for a 1000 years.

@TheWillvoss

2 жыл бұрын

@@steven4315 can i get in on this.

@steven4315

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWillvoss Phoenix is growing, lots of new subdivisions.

The water wars of 2029 were crazy,, but nothing compared to the water wars of 2036

Been here my whole life 30 yrs! This is disheartening! We don’t need this!

If I was gonna buy a house and they told me there was no water for my basic needs, I'd look elsewhere. That's crazy.

We just visited a friend in Golden Valley, his well is going dry. He has water trucked in now and we bring 5 gallon bottles of water per person when we visit.

Changing from a lush, green lawn and water hungry trees over to desert landscaping that does Not need to be watered, as well as requiring pools to be covered when not in use (or removing the pool altogether), are two steps that would make a large dent in our water use. I understand the appeal and even need for green belts. But, all new developments must be designed with water conservation at the forefront. From requiring reclaimed water to be used for large green belts, parks and athletic fields. To offering rebates and even one time grants to households that can show where the money is going, i.e. approved contractors and/or permit style inspections. Our water woes will only get worse as more people move here. We have to start taking steps now or we'll be rationing water during the hottest parts of the year.

@RandomsFandom

2 жыл бұрын

They’ll make you spray septic effluent upon your lawn to save water. Poop juice sprinkler on the lawn.

@steveeddy6876

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm how about Chemical Toilets?

@hksp

2 жыл бұрын

nope, lawn and pool is not the problem as most water is used by the agriculture sector !

@jeremyhorne5252

2 жыл бұрын

"But, all new developments must be designed ... ". Wrong. You STOP development, period!

@golden.lights.twinkle2329

2 жыл бұрын

My HOA requires a lawn or a large tree, 75% of rock must be covered in lush green growth.

Let's hope the new development's HOAs don't require lawns and trees like they do where I live in Tempe.

@buckroger6456

2 жыл бұрын

HOAs need to be outlawed

Stop building no matter how tempting the developers money is to you city officials.

“It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature.” Mother Nature

It's good that the no grass lawn restriction is in place. Another requirement for development should be that any project has to construct systems to retain every drop of rainwater that falls on it be retained within it with no runoff allowed. This should be the first thing that is built or no permits issued for any further building.

@FuckinGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind that he said the FRONT yard. There is no regulation for the back yards, which will likely be bigger anyways.

These type of development projects really piss me off.

This was a scam from day one. Who didn't see it coming ?

In Arizona developers can build homes without access to water. People who are buying those homes are required to have their water truck in. Good luck....

Good to read the comments and the fact that everyone gets what this is all about. How best then to get the politicians to start blocking these destructive criminally driven projects that endanger all of us.

@farmerbill6855

2 жыл бұрын

It's easy, just buy the land yourself. You can leave it any way you like it. But no, you want someone to do it for you. At a point, this will become economically unfeasible and then it will stop.

Developer: "We're building a ghost town. By the time 900,000 people move here, there'll be no water for them. The entire city will revert to desert. But I'll be dead by then."

🤔🤯 WHAT ABOUT PINE/STRAWBERRY THERE OUT OF WATER THESE HOMES ARENT HERE CONTRACTORS NEED MORE RULES THEY WASTE WATER I GUESS MONEY TALKS 😒

Everybody relax, Arizona law says the developer must have a 100 year source of water. The developer says they have a water plan. What could go wrong?

@alissagonzales735

2 жыл бұрын

Haven't we all heard that before.

Sorry guys! We're keeping more water for ourselves here in Colorado since we're thirsty too. Good luck! Lol

How are they thinking this will work with NO water. . . . . . . . . .

They should worry about places in Arizona that are already populated, I have an an idea, don't build the development, LoL.

@AGhostInTheMachine

2 жыл бұрын

They wouldn't build if there wasn't demand. And as long as humans keep reproducing, there will continue to be demand and greater strain on limited resources. Simple. If the development is stopped in this location, it will necessarily occur somewhere else. The overall problem will only be transferred to someone else's backyard. There is ultimately only one solution.

@notalone4015

2 жыл бұрын

@@AGhostInTheMachine last time I checked, the drought was in the SouthWest United States not Nationwide, so yes, development can take place elsewhere. Perhaps you didn't read the first section of my comment where it says they should take care of the developed areas and their current water needs rather than try to expand where there is no water. simple.

@AGhostInTheMachine

2 жыл бұрын

@@notalone4015 you missed the point of the comment, but oh well, no different than most

@notalone4015

2 жыл бұрын

@@AGhostInTheMachine ... LMAO, it's you that missed the point and I'm tired of trying to explain it to you. Good luck in life with your second grade education.

"no canals means no Colorado River water." Yeah, that water is also disappearing.

@cdawg9149

2 жыл бұрын

Lake Mead and Powell eating it.

Good luck with that Arizona.

so many issues stem from real estate tycoons and their disgusting greed !!!

What a dumb idea to build a bunch of homes in the desert and there is absolutely no water

Nobody cares about watering a golf course. ⛳ we got to build a 💧 park.

I grew up in the valley in the 60/70's. Its just a dead extension of a long passed dream. No soul

Look. Dig a trench from the Calif aqueduct to Phoenix and put in a tap valve when no one is looking. See problem solved.

It's just insane to build that large in a desert, that can't really support even the people who live there today.

Who is going to buy that land if there is no water? Even the ? Colorado River is drying up!

Who would live in a place with 5 straight months of 100+ degree temperatures?

This is so ridiculous, why not support the existing cities and towns in the area?

@duancoviero9759

2 жыл бұрын

because $$$. New construction and home sales is a big part of America GDP since we no longer make anything.

"We need to make significant changes to the way we operate water laws in Arizona" (1:20) What he is really saying is that we're going to build no matter what and let the state deal with the resulting water shortages.

Anyone that invests in this project is insane. Increasing severe drought in the sate of Arizona. Invest money in good solutions. Developers are obviously ignorant or lying.

@duancoviero9759

2 жыл бұрын

they sell a lot of homes to hedge funds. Who right now will buy anything under 500k. so yes, they don't care.

Stop new projects from building if they do not have sufficient water available. There is no point, and others around them will suffer.

@alexoliver5652

2 жыл бұрын

Hello 👋 foster How are you doing today?

I delivered a load of building materials to a job site in southern California near magic mountain. The person in charge there told me they were building 26,000 new homes there. They just keep building more and more like there's unlimited resources.

I'm continually amazed at the ideocracy of building more and more stuff in a desert that requires water that just isn't there.

Maybe WE the people have to advertise that we are a desert state. That we don't have the type of groundwater other states have. That some areas of our city and state the homes hardly have any water pressure. I know my niece bought a home in San Tan they sometimes have no water pressure. I asked her what did you expect in the desert?

@CamGiaCrixus

2 жыл бұрын

We haven't had water pressure here in Gilbert for years! People will walk from AZ homes more than any other state I predict within the next year. They were lured during covid for what they thought was less expensive lifestyle but lifestyle is all additional and utilities. taxes all going up...they have to. No way AZ can sustain and be safe if they do not

They’re really just trying to save money lmao from a business standpoint he’s trying to provide as much water for as cheap as possible and eliminate the delivery fee along with Putting the water under ground you shouldn’t lie but be honest

Only way change any of this is to vote for leaders who will be responsible.

Think oil is gonna be our ongoing problem? Nope, its gonna be water. Billy Bob Thornton was onto something...

The San Fernando Valley, of Phoenix? 😅😅😅

Funny, there is no more Colorado river water, we will drop below the level 2 triggers this week

Run!!!! Don't look back, Run !!!!!!!!!!!!

You really can't pin this whole water issue all on a single development in Pima County, Az. - not when you consider the fact that the Colorado River already serves 40M ppl in seven different states, plus tens of thousands of acres of agricultural lands.

Sounds like a failure from the start to me but I don't wear expensive suits and ties.