I find it interesting that almost no one mentions the intelligence that the US provides to Ukraine. It's pretty valuable to know what to hit and when to hit it.

@hansolowe19

Жыл бұрын

It's also pretty valuable to know. Which is why we (and the Russians) don't know what intelligence they're getting. It's so valuable that we will only find out long after.

@bloodraven2887

Жыл бұрын

because everything's about America i forget that

@petermello55

Жыл бұрын

You keep your strengths in the shadows

@DoctorChained

Жыл бұрын

@@hansolowe19 We know that we are now giving them real-time satellite intel.

@hansolowe19

Жыл бұрын

@@petermello55 exactly.

One extraordinary justification for supporting Ukraine seems to be consistently missed: Ukraine gave up over 1,000 nuclear weapons in exchange for a non-aggression treaty with Russia, and this enabled Russia to attack with impunity in 2014. If the world does not protect countries who gave up nukes for peace, why will any countries do so in the future?

@paddyl0

Жыл бұрын

“Protect countries” Western countries are the biggest exporters of weapons in the world. UK, US, France, they all sell billions of pounds worth of weapons to countries who then use those weapons either on their own people or in neighboring countries for the their own land and resource grabbing gains. The world doesn’t work like a Marvel film, sorry to be the one to tell you this

@Slowhobolicker

Жыл бұрын

that was before US ignored the agreement by expanding NATO causing Russia to do the same

@robrechwithoutzaza7992

Жыл бұрын

​@@SlowhobolickerWhat agreement? Can you show me? Because it doesnt exist. Btw Ukraine wanted to join EU, not Nato.

@firstlast2762

Жыл бұрын

We are all Glad they did, because the troglodytes in control of the Ukraine, would have used them already.

@firstlast2762

Жыл бұрын

@@robrechwithoutzaza7992 By arguing there is no agreement you’re therefore agreeing that they have expanded 🤦‍♂️ and they DID want to joint NATO lol this is common knowledge that takes half a second to look up.

I think there was a missed opportunity to touch on the military training provided to Ukraine after Crimea was invaded. I'm sure other countries were involved but the Canadian operation UNIFIER is the one I'm familiar with. Surely this training has had a profound impact on the Ukrainian army's ability to fight and use these weapons effectively. They haven't just been given weapons thoughtlessly, they were trained to fight like the west.

@khan92asif

Жыл бұрын

Like they used it in afghanistan, they themselves cant use it properly

@Bantobror

Жыл бұрын

Canada and Sweden!

@alucardbalmond3480

Жыл бұрын

​@@Bantobror I love how the entire contribution by Europe to Ukraine is not even a pocket change for American elite families. Shows and explains why Europe is salty against America. America is always forced to save poor Europeans but acting rich Europeans.

@ktdybrjkftdbx

Жыл бұрын

Crimea was occupied by Ukraine, from 1991 to 2014 years

@donaldkasper8346

Жыл бұрын

@@alucardbalmond3480 2008 banking crisis, the US bailed out the EU. EU would be part of Russia otherwise.

Don't know whether somebody still watches this video, but thanks for all the support (not only military) you're giving!

Another mistake is vox forgets to mention that within the antebellum period between the 2014 invasion and the 2022 invasion Ukraine modernized its forces with NATO assistance . They didn't sit idly and wait for Russias subsequent attack

@patrickfitzgerald2861

Жыл бұрын

Yep, and I would add the advance warning of the pending invasion the US gave them in early 2022.

@curtis545454

Жыл бұрын

Also, Russia invaded Crimea when Ukraine was overthrowing their Russian president. In the chaos, there was no one to direct troops to defend. Also, Javelins are very advanced weapons that helped shape the war. I don't feel Vox explained these topics well at all...

@daniel931016

Жыл бұрын

they modernized their tactics, most of their equipment was still the same.

@user-jq4ej7pf9o

Жыл бұрын

@@curtis545454 "russian president" is president for whom 90% of Donbass and Crimeans voted

@anthonypareigis6188

Жыл бұрын

Russian troops have beennin Ukraine since 2014....

>without the deaths of American soldiers >without using the latest equipment such as the F-35 and Abrams A1M2 SEPv4 >for just 6% of the US defence budget for 2023 And Russia is forced to mobilise, use 1940s tanks and still can't take a small Ukrainian town for 7 months. What a bargain!

@paulwartha8425

Жыл бұрын

Lets ask the people if it was worth it, every smart person will say no

@huckleberryfinn6578

Жыл бұрын

Did you conduct a survey or where did you get the certainty? I would say that for 7% of the annual defense budget to set back the second most important rival of the USA by decades is a bargain.

@leme5639

Жыл бұрын

@@paulwartha8425 said Paul, a nobody.

@biggestouf

Жыл бұрын

@@paulwartha8425 Lol, smart people know that old equipment takes maintenance and will be cheaper in the long run if we send it over. A bean counter looks at the budget and says that it's expensive to send Vietnam era M113s and thinks that it's not worth it.

@ThighErda

Жыл бұрын

@@paulwartha8425 If we didn't do this, Russia would be on the front door of Poland & Romania, 2 NATO allies.

I think it is very important to mention that after the collapse of the Soviet Union Ukraine still had a lot of nuclear weapons, which was inconvenient for Europe and the United States. And Ukraine agreed to give all nuclear weapons to Russia in exchange for security guarantees from the largest countries in Europe and the United States. Among other things, this is why Ukraine has the right to ask for help from these countries.

@kokokouyoumijian

10 ай бұрын

Now all of this makes sense .

@shzarmai

9 ай бұрын

True

Vox i freaking love your small documentarys. its the best youtube docs i have seen. keep up the good work love your way to explain and show it.

Correction: In January 2023, the UK agreed to send Ukraine advanced tanks. The US agreed to send their advanced tanks after that, followed by Germany and other allies. And at 5:34, the tank shown is an Abrams battle tank, not a Leopard battle tank. EDIT: We’ve updated the video to reflect these changes.

@rhusselcombo7696

Жыл бұрын

Cool , now send f-16

@Lotus102

Жыл бұрын

i wonder when you will make a video about US war crimes

@KeramMat

Жыл бұрын

​@@Lotus102 they got some. "How the US created a disaster in Afghanistan" for example

@CHLBUTTERWORTH

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the correction, was about to comment on these. Whilst the UK agreed to send tanks, it was a small number that opened the door for the more numerous Leopard Tanks. The Abrams whilst a good tank is not a good fit for the Ukraine Army due to the fuel type and complex operating, they're probably being sent so that people don't question why the US isn't sending tanks when others are.

@cototp

Жыл бұрын

And the russe aint happy with the brits for leading the way

I don’t know if I would call a javelin a “relatively unsophisticated weapon”

@QWERTY-gp8fd

Жыл бұрын

unsophisticated compared to what usa have.

@salt_spicy

Жыл бұрын

Not technologically, but maybe in terms of training and logistical support

@CrabappleKing

Жыл бұрын

The key word is relatively

@HaithamA

Жыл бұрын

Compared to a fighter jet?

@marcotron0870

Жыл бұрын

​@@QWERTY-gp8fd the javelin is american though

Poland is being overlooked in this video. Without Poland's help which was the fastest, Ukraine would lose already.

@alexmason2659

Ай бұрын

Because Poland gave them junk compared to US and UK weapons

A point to remember is that at the start of the full scale invasion the thinking was that Ukraine would fall to the Russians and the US would rerun the Afghanistan playbook from when the soviets invaded. The CIA can sneak in manportable weapons to an insurgency group, they can't do that for vehicles.

The UK was the first to commit to sending main battle tanks, not Germany or the US. (This has now been corrected in the video)

@edwardfrench6

Жыл бұрын

100% I was just about comment on that 👍

@tenstrateq6262

Жыл бұрын

what about polish T-72 in april 2022?

@KingCharles3

Жыл бұрын

@@tenstrateq6262 That’s a Soviet tank rather than Western made

@bartandaelus359

Жыл бұрын

@@sonacphotos Poland aren't interested in buying American tanks, they're interested in the Leopard for it's suitability to their conditions as their 'ace' tank division with a backbone of tanks made up from 1000 South Korean K2 MBT's. Poland want American missiles and aircraft but not their tanks.

@CelabroSpace

Жыл бұрын

I was just about to point that out. Thanks!

You forget that Poland send 250 T-72 tanks in first weeks. Those thans was as good as Russian tanks.

@pepsitruther67

Жыл бұрын

They did say that some countries sent older tanks

@TheStopwatchGod

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but Britain, Germany and the US are now sending modern tanks, the best of the best

@chujcinaimie

Жыл бұрын

@@TheStopwatchGod Poland send already Leopards.

@chujcinaimie

Жыл бұрын

@@TheStopwatchGod And US is willing to send old Abrams...

@obinator9065

Жыл бұрын

@@chujcinaimie No it didn’t. PiS staggered around with the idea of sending but didn’t put in any request.

“Unsophisticated” weapons: “Javelins”

@Jabberstax

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing 😂

This was very informative! The music in the beginning was awesome

US is mostly sending old stock in storage that would need to be replaced anyway and has commited a tiny percentage of its huge economy to supporting Ukraine compared to other European countries. It is an unbelievably good investment compared to the hundreds of billions the US spends every year on defense since it seriously degrades Russias combat ability

@dogemaster6079

Жыл бұрын

I disagree, Russia is not even remotely a threat to the US militarily or economically (outside of nuclear weapons ofc) - their combat ability was never a threat to begin with. The biggest threat to American dominance is undoubtedly China. A slow down of trade, invasion of taiwan, instability in Southeast Asia, etc. can instantly shut down the US economy down overnight. Forcing Russia into a corner where it allies itself with China is not good. People are so desperate to finally be on the 'right side' of a war after decades of military failure that they fail look at the bigger picture - Ukraine is not America's problem, its Europe's. Obviously their cause is just and we should support them, but that cannot come at the cost of what is in the best interests of the US, which does not automatically align with what Ukraine's best interests are.

@2chin4u

Жыл бұрын

doge master I don’t think you’re looking at the bigger picture. A successful invasion of Ukraine would encourage China to invade Taiwan. You have to think about the global precedent that would be reinforced if Russia wins Ukraine.

@SPCv4

Жыл бұрын

@@dogemaster6079 Even if you're right, us supporting ukraine is making us realize just how lackluster our military manufacturing capability is. We couldn't even handle supporting an ally without needing to setup new factories, imagine getting into a full blown war.

@Foxtrotopia

Жыл бұрын

@@SPCv4 Russia was supposed to be the 2nd most powerful military in the world. The US was able to spearhead the invasion and 20 year occupation of two land-locked countries halfway around the world in the middle of the desert, Russia is struggling to run logistics into a country that is literally right next to them and was a former part of their territory for several decades

@kenlandgren4701

Жыл бұрын

Old stock of Javelins, HIMARS, M777s, stingers, drones????? Man you are silly.

0:50 They are not seeing the bigger picture, "the historic number" is only a fraction of the money the US spent on Afghanistan and Iraq. Proxy wars are cost efficient.

@Cubeforc3

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. One of the West's main antagonists is being destroyed by our second rate material from the 80's and 90's. Compared to how much the US spends on its military any support to Ukraine is a bargain. For the next few decades what country is going to buy Russian military equipment? They're all going to come begging to be allowed to buy American / Western material.

@ygreq

Жыл бұрын

I also found it quite irrelevant when Vox compared the help other allies got compared to Ukraine. Like they are occupied and really need it

@mrcatman6374

Жыл бұрын

And think of what the US is getting in return. In the one case, they get to blow up some goat herders in the Afghan mountains. In the other case, they get to destroy the (at the time) second strongest military in the world.

@pugnator_1

Жыл бұрын

Yeh cost efficient like Usma bin landen was in Pak and had hit trade towers while USA was funding them.😂

@misterlinux9290

Жыл бұрын

IF it's a "proxy war" then it's Nato vs Russia. Also I am pretty sure Europeans would enjoy less Russian influence, just saying.

That's why one needs own abilities, not only to look at the lips of strong (?) allies, expressing concern and going through their dilemmas

Give thanks to what you take for granted, imagine losing everything In blink of an eye. My heart goes out to the people of Ukraine, you are a strong resilient people and this war will be won not by just a battle victory but the mindset in which you know you cannot be divided nor broken.

although US have sent biggest military aid (around 50 bil. $), it is just 5% of the US overall military budget. In the same time Estonia, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and some other mostly Baltic countries donated around 20-50% of their military budgets. And considering that Russia is second biggest enemy for the US, spending just 5% of the US 1 year military budged for Ukrain that destroyed almost 50% of russian ground forces's potential - is absolutely brilliant investment for USA.

@kenlandgren4701

Жыл бұрын

What matters is the real dollar amount no percentages.

@khiem1939

Жыл бұрын

@@kenlandgren4701 Like usual, you are wrong!

@RootEntry

Жыл бұрын

@@kenlandgren4701 Yes because let's let them donate 500% of their budget yk, just to make it fair.

@reviewsfreestyled14

Жыл бұрын

UK is putting in more effort, but US's effort gets 10x more stuff. Do you want 1% of Warren Buffets wealth or 10% of a bus boy's wealth? Both are important, but for different reason.

@aaryathegoat

Жыл бұрын

@@khiem1939 no lol raw amount matters more lol not percentage, a small portion of the us's budget has contributed more to the Ukrainian war efforts than all of these countries combined, donating 20% of the us budget would be...yeah.

Very US centric video, but I guess that makes sense, its just the way you've presented things it makes it appear like europe waits for the US and then copies, but throughout the war we have seen eastern european states take the initiative and provide equipment like artillery and tanks before the US, and if we are just talking non-soviet equipment, the UK were first to train Ukrainian soldiers and first to send NATO standard Main Battle Tanks. However the reason some of this CAN happen is because of the US backfilling these nations or diplomacy happening behind the scenes.

@ryu-ken

Жыл бұрын

Of course. We are the leader. What we do, you follow.

@marcusj9947

Жыл бұрын

US is doing the most. Just stop it....Putin would have Kyiv by now if not for the US aid.

@bp9696

Жыл бұрын

@Roxx considering russia’s military prowess at display in ukraine, i really doubt that

@DS-rd9qn

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It's great to be allied with the US but in general US media seems to think they control the world. They are the leading superpower yes, but they don't control everything. In fact they have only been a superpower for around a hundred years - before WW1 they were only considered a regional power. It was largely the devastation of WW1+2 on Europe and the US military build up caused by the cold war that led to the US being where they are today.

@eoinburke

Жыл бұрын

Poland has even sent entire soviet era jets last year and marked them down as "spare parts". Poland and the baltics have taken the lead all along. When vox refers to "Europe" it means Germany and France.

Title: How Western Weapons transformed the war in Ukraine The video: *WHAT IS MURICA DOIN?!*

May 2023: F16 Let's Gooooooo!! 😎💪🏿🇺🇦

The UK was the first to send tanks, Poland and Germany are arguably some of the most dedicated allies and Czechia sent the most relative to their wealth. I still think the US is doing a good thing but they're hardly the only one

@legallyblind393

Жыл бұрын

Germany hardly but Poland and the baltic states are the ones truly carrying Ukraine.

@georgezakusilo1584

Жыл бұрын

In relative terms - only small EU countries outspent USA. In absolute terms - no countries come even close to USA military aid to Ukraine

@thedewberry_6399

Жыл бұрын

@@georgezakusilo1584 Not true at all, in relative terms the UK has sent 7.45% of its military budget to Ukraine where as the USA has sent 5.99% of its military budget. The UK was the first to sent MBTs, the first to train the Ukranian army and the first to apply pressure on Germany to send more that 1000 helmets as aid.

@saifullahraza

Жыл бұрын

Because UK don't have to worry about any retaliation sitting at the far end of Europe. Also, Brexit makes UK to do something rather than cooling things down.

@revsnowfox5798

Жыл бұрын

Uh, the first to send tanks were Poland... T-72s and PT-91s are still tanks. Other former Warsaw Pact countries also sent Soviet-era tanks.

That’s the first time I’m saying this, but I’m really disappointed with Vox’s research here. Lack of mentioning UK and European enormous support that often came quicker than that of the US. Lack of mentioning that Poland has just send Soviet made MIGs to Ukraine. I mean - this is so much more complicated and that is important for the folks in the US to understand

@screetchycello

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Also, you can't just send fighter jets and call it a day. You need a huge number of trained maintenance people as well as trained pilots. There's a huge amount of infrastructure that you need

@screetchycello

Жыл бұрын

Same for the rest of the equipment. Equipment is no good if your people can't use it or can't repair it.

@gimmethegepgun

Жыл бұрын

It mentioned Poland sending fighter jets at 6:49.

@abdulaziz-kt5ih

Жыл бұрын

Did you even watch the video? Poland sending older jets was mentioned.

@screetchycello

Жыл бұрын

@@abdulaziz-kt5ih American fighter jets. Poland is sending their Soviet-style ones which Ukraine already has

Very informative, thank you. Please share an update after winter 2023.

"We're sending them too much." I'm constantly surprised that my fellow Americans don't understand world politics.

@thePronto

Жыл бұрын

American's not understanding world politics is not surprising at all. What is surprising is them accepting defense budgets that match the next dozen countries' budgets, but be unwilling to spend a small fraction of it to prevent getting involved in what is going on in Ukraine right now.

Corrections: 2:50 The Javelin is not an unsophisticated (insignificant) weapon, its the best anti-tank weapon available to the infantry soldier, it's full of advanced components and it was delivered BEFORE the invasion, this was key to the UKR defensive success 5:35 That is not a leopard MBT, that is an Abrams MBT

@BigBoiiLeem

Жыл бұрын

He said the Javelin is unsophisticated, not insignificant. Which, in the grand scheme of military hardware, it is. He also mentioned explicitly that the US began sending Javelins in 2018 about 40 seconds earlier.

@oliversdouglas

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I immediately did a double-take at describing the Javelin as 'relatively unsophisticated' - it's not an RPG

@henrybinns8745

Жыл бұрын

Another correction… the UK decided to donate 2 squadrons of Challenger 2s to UAF 9 days before US and then Germany announced they would, following the meeting at Rammstein AFB. The Challenger and Leopards will arrive months before the Abrams.

@patrickfitzgerald2861

Жыл бұрын

They also left out how much training and logistics support that the US and NATO provided to the Ukrainian military after the Russian invasion of Crimea in 2014, and also the fact that the US provided them with advance warning of the 2022 invasion. It is very unlikely that they could have stopped the Russians without this help.

@J.C...

Жыл бұрын

It said "relatively unsophisticated". Come on dude.

0:34 Poland is magnanimous, big support relative to size of its economy

@kaseywahl

Жыл бұрын

And that makes a lot of sense, considering Poland borders Ukraine. I'm sure they don't want Russia creeping up to their border.

@jeshkam

Жыл бұрын

Yes, we are. Thank you. ;)

@zhoubaidinh403

Жыл бұрын

They live between a rock and a hard place.

@apathyzen9730

Жыл бұрын

AFAIK, Baltic states made a bigger commitment in terms of the percent of their economies.

@jeshkam

Жыл бұрын

@@apathyzen9730 It's not a sports event, it's not about who gave more or less. We're helping Ukraine as much as we only can. True commitment does not equal percents, numbers etc.

Biden says he doesn’t need F-16s now, he needs ice cream 🍦

WAITING MORE SUCH INSIGHTFUL VIDEOS, VOX IS ONE OF THE MOST THOUROGH PLATFORMS I HAVE COME ACCROSS ON GEO POLITICAL COVERAGE, HUGE THANKS TO THE TEAM !

Let's remember that the dollar value of equipment sent can be highly inflated depensing on the system, javelins or artillery shells who've reached their shelf life can't be compared in cost to brand new ones. Same for the m113 and old bradleys. It seems the numbers we get from authorities tends to create an illusion that all the stuff that is sent to Ukraine is right from the factory.

@anybodyhandle

Жыл бұрын

You are right the junkyard from USA was priced as brand new. The 46 billion is totally unreal to real value or something overpriced.

@MrDragenge1

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it totally feeling like US goverment trying to launder their money and blame Ukraine that they spent too much

@tinayoga8844

Жыл бұрын

A lot of the weapons were set for destruction and it would have cost more to do that than to give it to Ukraine.

@Greenboipapi

Жыл бұрын

if ukraine wins this war you now have an allie on the russian border who is 40 billion dollars in debt to you which is a very big deal

@walli6388

Жыл бұрын

Tell that to Poland

I normally love Vox, but the lack of research on this one is sad. I'd love to see a follow-up focusing on how important the war in Ukraine is for wider European and American strategy, even in the Pacific.

@NickLujan

Жыл бұрын

The media really did a great job selling this war to the public, I love wasting resources to enrich arms manufacturers!

@jerepyotsia2939

Жыл бұрын

Basically you can think of this in many ways, none or good. If USA stops aiding Ukraine, Russia might think this as a succsesful terror tactic and then use the same deploys to demand other concessions (NATO leave baltics) and one way or another, it will cause dosunity and distrust among the collective west. Next thing to think about is, what if Putin promises no more wars. Can his Word be trusted. He has lied so many times and broken so many treaties. Lastly what people have to think about, that if USA pulls out of helping Ukraine and whatever Putin does or doesnt do, the market in EU will destabalize, causing harm in USA as EU is maybe the largest market for their supplies and services.

@gMarkBeatz

Жыл бұрын

🤝🤝🤝

@bornonthebattlefront4883

Жыл бұрын

If this disappoints you You really haven’t seen many of Vox’s videos Very little research goes into these videos

@lifestereotype7320

Жыл бұрын

@@bornonthebattlefront4883 then why are you here watching and commenting?

very informative thank you!

1:28 “ with the help of Ukraine separatist fighters”. this statement is wrong , as it was russian special forces that took over and helped to take Crimea , russian president also admitted it during one of his interview

Its not so much compared to US military budget. Other countries like Poland and Baltic sent as much as they could and as fast as they could. As they know how important it is for them and for the rest of the world. From safe US it looks much more peaceful than when you have a border with russia. Anyway, here in Ukraine we do appreciate all of the help and support from US and Europe, if not you we had no other choice but to fail against russian invasion. We wont forget our alies and will pay back as soon as we can

@alexcisneros2980

Жыл бұрын

Jesus christ! I didn't expect to see people literally from Ukraine in the comments! Hope you and your loved ones stay safe and kick these bullies out! ❤️ 🇺🇦

@vladrazym9955

Жыл бұрын

@@alexcisneros2980 thank you! I like Vox and their quality videos

@notYaroslav

Жыл бұрын

​@@alexcisneros2980yes, we are here). Thanks a lot for support. 🇺🇦😼

@dagnytaggart2027

Жыл бұрын

​@Alex Cisneros we also watch english speaking channels.

@Nyarurin

Жыл бұрын

@@alexcisneros2980 i don't get why are you acting surprised. Like if Ukraine was some 3rd world country with no internet or electricity. Ukrainians are everywhere on the web, just like every other nation.

The video was actually Renamed, The video was called "How US Weapons changed Ukraine".

The track at the end.... Hats off to the composer!

Don't forget the people around the globe flying out to help as well.

Ukraine has shown great, GREAT, restraint with the weapons they have and the resources they've been given. I think we need to trust them enough to use advanced long range weapons the same way. They clearly only want to free their country. I think we need to help them. Especially with China's recent public supporting of the Russian gov...

@trinomial-nomenclature

Жыл бұрын

I agree, they made it seem like the Ukraine soldiers are like children, when you give them a new toy, they push the boundaries and destroy everything in their path. However, they are not children, like you said they've shown great restraint, I think the US needs to trust Ukraine more.

@xeddtech

Жыл бұрын

@@trinomial-nomenclature Absolutely

@gershannikval

Жыл бұрын

YES! This is a great comment 🫶🏻 thanks for your support🇺🇦

@dave3269

Жыл бұрын

Do not dare provoke the Chinese Russia alliance if you want any kids to breathe clean air on this planet in 20 years. Negotiate peace. End the wars. Allow our planet to survive.

@BLET_55artem55

Жыл бұрын

For a country who's president is an ex clown and that was REALLY considering using US's nukes on Russia it already has way too much trust

Not mentioned in the video, but considering the type of arms NATO sent in the beginning, they were preparing for Ukraine to fall and continue a guerilla warfare, which would make MBT-s and fighter jets pretty useless and ambush weapons such as rocket launchers more useful. I guess even the US was surprised that Ukraine did not fall.

@anybodyhandle

Жыл бұрын

Specially France and Germany talked a lot with Putin and not helping Ukraine.

@tinayoga8844

Жыл бұрын

​@@anybodyhandle Germany is a very complicated situation and it is unfair to criticize them like that. After WW2 they were conditioned to not be warlike. This was part of the US plan. Collectively the Germans have a lot of guilt for what they did to Russians in WW2.

@khiem1939

Жыл бұрын

People FORGET that during WWII, it was the Ukrainians who were the best fighters of the former Soviet Union, it was the Ukraine where the Moskva was built, since Russia didn't have the CAPABILITY then and cannot replace it today!

@michaelr8189

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, there wasn't a lot of faith for at least the first few days. Let's not forget the US literally offered Zelenskyy an airlift out of Kyiv

@kairon5249

Жыл бұрын

@@khiem1939 didnt ukraine get captured within only a few months in ww2? that was where nearly a million soviet soldiers were encircled around kyiv.

Hint: it didnt

It's pity rather US involve to resolve the issue they putting more fuel on fire.

The thing about sending materials, at least for some things, is that it doesn't cost nearly as much as it does on papper. The US has thousands of spare abraham tanks and f16s etc, lots of shells and so on that are in storage and will never be used. Some would need more maintance or to be scrapped if stored for too long. So the cost can seem higher that it is in actual dollars today.

@tinayoga8844

Жыл бұрын

Sending lots of it was cheaper than the cost of scrapping the items that were scheduled to be scrapped.

@honkhonk8009

Жыл бұрын

tbf seeing as how were developing a new tank anyways, I dont see the harm in expelling our old surplus. The motive for sending all this stuff to Ukraine, is mostly to discard our old stock that was about to get thrown in the garbage anyways

@khiem1939

Жыл бұрын

@@tinayoga8844 True and they had the ADDED benefit of killing Russian cannon fodder!

The world fearing larger escalation while Russia commits war crimes and invades a sovereign country. It’s giving 1940s vibes

@bri1085

Жыл бұрын

Or 2003 vibes

@very_unique_username

Жыл бұрын

So scary 😳😨😰😰😰😰😓😓😓😓😱😱😱😱😱 not the vibes I was expecting

@Concretelicker

Жыл бұрын

It's giving Rwanda vibes

@dulguunjargal1199

Жыл бұрын

1938 Vibea

@_Gam3r

Жыл бұрын

1970s* 1940s it already did escalate, they were already using the deadliest weapons they could

Amazing infographics guys. kudos

I think it just goes to show how it’s not just the type of weapons but also how much is given… since you can’t just always give some of the smaller artillery, evident by the limiting in supplies. Goes to show how some of the larger artillery likely should’ve been given. But I think Ukraine has shown how well they can do with simple artillery all things considered.

@MegaBanne

Жыл бұрын

When they get the Archer system they will be able to safely take out Russian artillery pieces. I look forward to that.

French are already training Ukrainian pilots. There is real possibility we could see Ukrainians flying mirages soon.

@davidkreutzkamp6602

Жыл бұрын

source?

@greggrimer354

Жыл бұрын

A jet isn't a car you can't just get in it and turn the key you have train on all the system sub-systems and backup system You have to know it's strengths and weakness how it performs in different situations and the best way get the most of it. You can't train for all of that in a sky that also has enemy air craft in it.

@tinayoga8844

Жыл бұрын

@@greggrimer354 Maybe they will not be as experienced as we would like but that doesn't mean they can't be effective.

Love the music choices!

Dude said winter 2023, we haven’t even finished fall

It's all cool and everything, but what about the Budapest Memorandum? This memorandum essentially promises safety to Ukraine in the event of an attack or aggression but Ukraine needed to give it atomic bombs away. As a Ukrainian, I respect the USA and other countries for their support, but at the same time, I have many questions about undelivered promises.

@JustMe-hp3zy

Жыл бұрын

Brother im from Hungary and let me tell you our hotels are full of ukrainians. They walk around happily on the streets.. They can use public transport for FREE, they dont have to buy tickets… They live a better life than most hungarians.

@chewepooz

Жыл бұрын

@@JustMe-hp3zy I don't think "losing everything they have" is worth of free ticket. I appreciate everything people do to support the nation though.

@AhhLewis

Жыл бұрын

I thought Ukraine was protected only if the opposite side used Nuclear weapons

@robmaddison8645

Жыл бұрын

The removal from office of Yanukovych in 2014 was unconstitutional. It was a coup d'etat. This is as much to blame for current events as anything else instigated by the Russians. World power blocks will forever be engaged in the great game of realpolitik seeking to advance their power and territory.

Military equipment don't last forever in storage, they have expiration dates or go obsolete. Decommissioning them also takes a lot manpower and money. A lot of equipments sent to Ukraine fall into the "last generation soon to be decommissioned" category. Compare to trillions wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan, the aid to Ukraine is bargain of the century.

@dagnytaggart2027

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@assharin

Жыл бұрын

As we know technology changes fast, all that will be just góod museum collection

small correction - hardly any modern tanks have been sent (or even considered to be sent), what is sent is mostly old stuff that has been labeled for scrap or corroding away stashed up somewhere. Only handful countries sent their in-service gear

Very good video it explains everything in shorts cut

I love how we are giving them weaponry that was develop in the 80s but they still proven to be very effective.

@Remyalexander

Жыл бұрын

Russia is deploying t-34, same tank they used in the 1940's

@weandyrfc7

Жыл бұрын

@@Remyalexander Do you not mean some T-55s were spotted being moved somewhere, Ive definitely not seen any T-34s. If theres T-34s on the battlefield Russia is in a very bad way 😂

@khiem1939

Жыл бұрын

@@Remyalexander NOT YET! But I would NOT be surprised to see them deployed in the Ukraine SOON!

@khiem1939

Жыл бұрын

@@weandyrfc7 True, those were T-55s that were recently shown on the train delivering them to the Ukraine!

@wumaobot

Жыл бұрын

And that is the reason why ukraine keep losing more land to russia

I would call an RPG or a grenade launcher as an unsophisticated weapon... but not a javelin.

thanks for this information

It's pretty weird watching a Vox video about something I already know so much about, but it's nice to have a summary every now and again.

8 minutes? You can't possibly explain this good enough in 8 mins.

@gorginhanson

Жыл бұрын

that's already triple the attention span of Americans

@chrischristides

Жыл бұрын

10% to the big guy

@brotpros2306

Жыл бұрын

It's a good enough explanation. You 4channers that have no jobs and sit in momma's basement and watch 2 hours updates on the front every day because you have no other hobbies need to realize regular people like to watch quick summaries and get on with their day.

Poland gave hundreds (probably 250) T-72 tanks very early in the war. Also in recent days MiG-29 fighter jets together with Slovakia. I don't know why at the beginning of the video Germany is mentioned - they've been reluctant for few months to give anything substantial. Without USA, UK and Poland Ukraine would fall already. German help was a joke and now still is small for size of their potential.

@oskarendres

Жыл бұрын

True. Poland is being overlooked while playing the most important role.

@JunkerWhoop

Жыл бұрын

Average Pole.

@emteiks

Жыл бұрын

@@JunkerWhoop true, average Pole is very sensitive when someone is skewing facts

@MsJondde

Жыл бұрын

Germans are quite hesitant to play a big part in a European conflict, considering their history and how it is seen in Russia.

@flatinator5628

Жыл бұрын

Man the tanks Poland were able to send came out of the old east german reserve, so a big chunk of the polish support is instead from germany. Same withe the Migs

Forget the haters Joe. They will say you didn't send enough if you had sent any less

Shoutout to whoever came up with the visual concept for this video, amazing work!

5:28 "Older Models" *shows Panzerhaubitze 2000* one of the most modern or even the most modern artillery there is. Germany has already delivered Gepard (AA tanks) in July 2022 too.

@witzemacher

Жыл бұрын

this video is insulting germany hard... unfair

@reahs4815

Жыл бұрын

they are even getting the Swedish artillery system "Archer"

@honkhonk8009

Жыл бұрын

Gepards are kinda a deathtrap in 2023. But in the anti-infantry role and anti-helicopter role, it can probably do really well.

@alexcisneros2980

Жыл бұрын

Can't be modern if it was made 23 years ago 🥱

@TheFeldhamster

Жыл бұрын

​@@honkhonk8009Gepards are terrific for shooting down those Shaheed drones.

"How well is Ukraine gonna fight with what they have?" I have an answer! It has always been: "Better than anyone may expect".

Help Ukraine, do not hesitate!

@reiniergarcia

7 ай бұрын

Russia will be defeated.

@L_back

3 ай бұрын

@@reiniergarciaPutin and his goons definitely

Anyone notice that the icon that they use for depicting F-16s is actually a Mig 29 fulcrum?😂

Its pretty unbelievable how this doesn't go over the second biggest supplier of ground equipment which is the UK.

Excellent coverage

lol 50 billion but jets are too much u cant make this up

5:35 Bruh thats an M1A2. Also, it was the Brits who broke the flood gates of MBT supplies, not the US.

@neilnelson7603

Жыл бұрын

Who are you to question Vox?

@izinko

Жыл бұрын

@@neilnelson7603 Who are you to question Nomadic_Warrior - he has Warrior in nickname :D

@neilnelson7603

Жыл бұрын

@@izinko Keyboard Warrior, you mean? 😁

@neilnelson7603

Жыл бұрын

@@PerryDaPlatapus You know nobody cares, right?

@neilnelson7603

Жыл бұрын

@@PerryDaPlatapus Says another nobody

2:45 While it is not an big issue, your map is incorrect. Slovakia borders are not there and it currently looks like Hungary is almost twice it's size (Even though Hungary is not written on the map so it looks like it's all Slovenia)

@sergeykish

Жыл бұрын

4:28 Slovakia present. Looks like they draw borders only for marked countries.

@valentinmitterbauer4196

Жыл бұрын

Looking at that map, it seems like Austria- Hungary made a comeback.

@skywalker5787

Жыл бұрын

bro they only marked supporting countries on the map are u ok?

It’s not America’s job to supply Ukraine. Let them fight their own war.

@TheBest-pm8vy

Жыл бұрын

In that case Russia would win

@The_Poro_King

7 ай бұрын

​@@TheBest-pm8vyAlso china would win if the U.S refused to send aid to Taiwan

Probably this war is key moment further freedom and independence for the ex sovet union countries. God Bless you USA! Greating from Kazakhstan

Javelin and PH 2000 are underrated...

You forgot about the fact, that fighter jets (that Ukraine doesn't have) need new infrastructure and logistics. That is why Slovakia can easily send Ukraine mig 29, because Ukraine already has them.

@seligfay7497

Жыл бұрын

These planes are made in Russia... Ukraine cannot use them because it will have big problems with ammunition, repairs and the fact that Russia knows everything about these aircraft.

@KINIVI210999

Жыл бұрын

thats not true, as wasn't true about tanks and other stuff. Check other news from Europena allies, f16 was in ukraine already and pilots are already top class(from the latest news of the us gov.)

great sound design in this video

Sending missiles and shells early was an optimal approach: munitions have a minimal logistical tail, i.e. they don't need to be repaired and maintained, just replenished. Training on complex systems is also a challenge, which is why the Soviet era stuff was more immediately impactful early in the war. Furthermore, the West didn't want to send its advanced technology if it was just going to get captured if the Ukrainians lost.

Thanks for the update and big picture analysis! Added to my "Ukraine vs. Russia 2022" playlist 😁👍

hopefully one day we won't need all these weapons, but for now the US is on the right side as far as I'm concerned. Slava Ukraine

@anubis8586

Жыл бұрын

I agree my friend. I hope one day peace is achieved and everyone can live in unity, love and harmony without the need for toxic things like using weapons against our fellow man and each other. That’s what we all truly want at the end of the day. Peace, love and prosperity for our families as well as the basic necessities/human rights for a good functioning humane life. Also, good to see a fan of my countryman! Mo Salah running down the winggg! Salahhh, the Egyptian King! 👑 YNWA.

@mcnally211

Жыл бұрын

Why do you support the only nation on earth to have open NAHATZES in their government and military? I.e. Denys Poropenko, AZOV battalion, thr right sector

@GameBoyyearsago

Жыл бұрын

You american and europian are dreaming live 8n peace and happily ever after for yourself, by ruin and destroying middle east and poor country what Supremacist irony 😂😂😂😂

@anubis8586

Жыл бұрын

Also, good to see a fan of my countryman! Mo Salah running down the winggg! Salahhh, the Egyptian King! 👑 YNWA, my friend.

@duhhtor

Жыл бұрын

@@mcnally211 Take your meds, mate, you're hallucinating.

Norway also got F-16A and F-16B in 1980 ( had to add this since it was not on the map )

Military industrial complex go brrrrrr

@utubewatchinhesk

Жыл бұрын

The energy sector as well since that pipeline mistake

I can only imagine the dominance and respect Ukraine and its elite battlehardend army will have on the the world stage after the war

@apokatastasian2831

Жыл бұрын

the US and Nato are going to fight for military industrial profit to the last ukranian.... mark my words, ukraine will be a ruined and demoralized husk missing a generation of it's men, it's children scattered and it's daughters raided into the dungeons of epstein types all over the world..... the Americans and EU citizens will be so embarrassed at what they've done, when the truth finally comes out, that the papers will turn away and western people will try to forget they ever supported this mess, on behalf of a corrupt tin-pot regime like zelenski's. winning this war for the west is like trying to win an arm wrestling match at the end of a broomstick. the only thing we can accomplish is the transfer of wealth from american and EU taxpayers, to American weapons manufacturers, and everyday ukranians guts grease the wheel of that machine.... slobba zucchini...

@maxdavis1483

Жыл бұрын

If there remains a Ukraine

@dave3269

Жыл бұрын

Does war get you off?

@cardinal9009

Жыл бұрын

@@maxdavis1483 I think it's best if you wonder whether *you* will exist, Sergeant Conscriptovich LOL

Millions of Indian students have done their graduation from Ukraine but still their local indian support Russia

Phenomenal video!

0:24 The graphic of the F-16 fighter jet has far more resemblance to the twin-engined Russian MiG-29 than the single-engined F-16

I think that the weapons issue is important, obviously. However what is not discussed as often is that the Ukrainian defence force's success is probably more due to the advanced NATO training they received from the Canadian, British and American trainers. There is little or no resemblance between the Ukrainian army of 2014 and the Ukrainian Army of 2023. They have become masters of combined arms warfare.

I've heard one analyst say some time ago (can't remember exactly who), that sending fighter jets has one important caveat: under relevant international law, Russia would allegedly be entitled to attack the airports of origin of any jet sent to Ukraine, which means donors or sellers of such jets would be directly implicating themselves in the war. I tried briefly to find out more about this, but eventually gave up after some time. does anyone know more about this?

@artjomsrimdjonoks2938

Жыл бұрын

If Russia attacks any NATO airport - this is an immediate declaration of the war to NATO.

I recommend DW for their excellent, sober and daily reporting from Ukraine

It's also important to note that the technical edge of Russia has been degraded significantly. They are now using T62s in frontline roles and are dusting off the ancient t54/55s (though there is a good chance that they are (for now) going to be in an artillery role). Their airforce has not been a big factor since the early days. Their artillery has reduced peak shell usage a day by 2/3rds. Their navy has lost its flagship against a nation without a navy. Normally in attritional wars, both sides degrade their abilities. This is a war where the underdog went from being behind in tech to be massively ahead in tech.

@lifestereotype7320

Жыл бұрын

the airforce is muted because of the anti-air risk of loss is too high. One thing Russia has in abundance is Anti-Air capabilities. if we sent F-16's over there, they would be easy pickings. Otherwise I agree with your comments.

@BLET_55artem55

Жыл бұрын

Imagine loosing a, what, 10 Vs 2? Russian military is still pushing further without even loosing that much viable tech. Rip Russian solders and Ukrainian civilians who are no longer with us

@Arkiasis

Жыл бұрын

Russia in general is a pure paper tiger and nowhere close to being anything formidable. For a loooong time we legit thought they were the 2nd most powerful military in the world. Turns out they're only the 2nd most powerful military in Ukraine.

If the Ex comedian is removed the whole Ukarine will be in peace. He is running his comedy show with human lives

@KelvinSG

8 ай бұрын

The man is still a comedian.

@LibertarianDude99

8 ай бұрын

​@@KelvinSGhe is. Cause he just made Putin into a joke

This aged well! 🤣🤣🤣

It doesn't matter how good or efficient the weapons. It comes down to the combatants ability to use them!

Sure, the military aid the U.S has sent is certainly a large figure. But with how much the U.S spends on weapons, this is pretty much the equivalent of giving the charity workers at your door the loose change you found in your sofa cushions.

@srvdean3024

Жыл бұрын

If you wanna complain about how little you think America has sent, we are always prepared to stop helping you. Better start teaching your children how to speak Russian.

@flowdacious9770

11 ай бұрын

You obviously are jealous of our superiority so you found a reason to hate on us. look at the numbers without us ukraine woulda have been defeated long ago. our pocket change is still more effort than your entire bank account.

One thing that has kept Ukraine in this fight is actually their legacy soviet air defence systems. S-300, BUK, OSA. Thats what saved them. Western jets can also help protect these systems since they’re Russia’s main target at the moment

@dreamme1ster659

Жыл бұрын

показал нам ИРИС немецкий, как правильно НЕ догонять ракету

0:10 Did Norway somehow lose their 60 F-16?s 😂

weapon manufactur belike : 🤑🤑🤑

At the beginning of the war Poland sent 242 T72 tanks. Was first. Remember that :)

To provide context for any remarks regarding the $42 billion of military aid provided to Ukraine, it is crucial to recognize that the US government fulfilling its commitment and adhered to the Budapest Memorandum. The memorandum between the United States and Ukraine about denuclearization refers to the Budapest Memorandum signed in 1994, which aimed at promoting the denuclearization of Ukraine and providing security assurances to Ukraine in exchange for giving up its nuclear weapons. Additionally, the $42 billion accounts for just 0.18% of the GDP, whereas certain European nations have contributed more than 1% of their GDP. It is interesting to note that Qatar expended $220 billion to host the World Cup in comparison. More context: There have been several agreements and memorandums between the United States and Ukraine regarding nuclear disarmament. The most significant of these was the Budapest Memorandum, which was signed on December 5, 1994, by the United States, the United Kingdom, Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus. The Budapest Memorandum was an agreement aimed at promoting the denuclearization of Ukraine. Under the agreement, Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear weapons, which it had inherited from the former Soviet Union, in exchange for security assurances from the United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia. The three nuclear powers pledged to respect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity and not to use force against it, except in self-defense or in accordance with the United Nations Charter. The Budapest Memorandum was seen as a significant step in reducing the risk of nuclear proliferation, particularly in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union. However, its effectiveness was called into question when Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, violating Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty. The United States and other signatories of the Budapest Memorandum have condemned Russia's actions and have called for the restoration of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. However, the memorandum does not provide a clear mechanism for enforcing its provisions, and there have been calls for the international community to take stronger action to hold Russia accountable for its actions in Ukraine.

That was a very well made video