Looking forward to your further videos on this Tesla.

Thank you for a nice video! I have a 2014 Model S P85+ , same colors. Still perfect condition as well , I have a prepaid 8 years maintenance plan so it has been checked regularly. I bought it new and I am so satisfied with the car that will keep for many years. The price on the used market is low so no point to sell it, since it feels like new. The only reason to buy a new one would be for the autonomous driving, but that is only needed when I get so old that I don't wish to drive myself anymore.

@TheSteinbitt

Жыл бұрын

How many miles do you have on it?

I can tell you what it’s like to own these old Teslas. We have three of them in our family and they have all gone over 180.000 miles since we bought them 2014 and 2015. Still only buying new tires and windshield wipers. Batteries have degraded 1% in average per year. Best cars we ever have owned.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Good to hear

@dominicwood3750

Ай бұрын

Interested to hear what miles per KW you get at 80mph

@Top12Boardsport

Ай бұрын

@@dominicwood3750 difference between summer and winter. Winter 2,75 kW per 10 km summer 2 kW per 10 km at 125 km / h speed.

@dominicwood3750

Ай бұрын

thanks

Loved the color, wonderful review. Looking forward for more reviews about it.

Very instructive vid. Thanks very much. It gave me some insight before buying one!

Very interesting and helpful, thanks.

Honestly, this is best video review I’ve found on this model. Thank you! 🙌🏽

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Great report ! I'm impressed. Currently have a 2017 Chevy Bolt and am wary as it ages...

favorite color and model of tesla 💚 got mine in black, 2014 model s, love it. some minor repairs but worth every penny for an amazing car thats saved me a ton of $ first year of ownership. gotta love free super charging for life in socal. mine charges to 211 miles (208 advertised from factory new)

Such an informative video, well done.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Great information 👍🏾 thanks for the great video.

It wasn’t a running out of eMMC space, it was that the eMMC was wearing out due to the high amount or writes to the card. :) Great colour.

@acarnivorouscat4549

3 жыл бұрын

Just got it replace free with a 64gb eMMC

@rafacq

2 жыл бұрын

Actually it was both! Too many read writes and little storage space!

"Getting cheap, only £22k" I guess we have different standards of cheapness! I've not spend over £1k on a used car in the last 25 years...

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Strictly in terms of other EVs with large battery packs

@jsergiuiulian

3 жыл бұрын

Considering it was close to 100k when new, 5x cost decrease, with not much functionality lost, it's a good deal

@UnipornFrumm

3 жыл бұрын

when new it costed 100k

@timaustin2000

3 жыл бұрын

You've not bought many cars that were £100k+ when new, then. This is outstanding value for a car like this, especially one in such good condition for its age.

@mike-bv2jc

3 жыл бұрын

@@UnipornFrumm it is almost half price in US as NEW (about 55k pounds). And this car in particular is extremely expensive as used. There are videos on youtube where a Tesla had a small accident (back bumper was a little dented) and the repair cost was more than 25% of the car value as new (it was a model 3), waiting time for repair was like 3 months in USA. In Europe waiting time would be a lot longer, and the repair cost would be astronomic.

Impressive car and even more impressive video! Thanks for sharing!

Excellent review

This was great! Thanks. Try using some isopropyl alcohol on the steering wheels to clean them up 👍

loved the video and hopefully we can see more and I love the colour, just checked Autotrader and no green for sale in UK

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I think I bought the only one!

Really informative vid - thanks

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Great video helpful & interesting love the colour

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

I’ve never seen a car that old with the green badge on the plate. Really cool!

Very impressive, it's novel having a car that improves with age!

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

One day all cars will be like this. Others are trying to catch up!

@Mrbfgray

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Yup. Another industry transformation Tesla get's significant credit for.

Great review. The RWD models also gives you the largest Tesla frunk space.

Great video. Thanks.

Nice I wish they still made that green color its rare too I have one like yours but its a 2012 and has black inside and 45k miles top of the line for 2012 too and factory black bigger wheels

Forgot to tell you I had Tesla replace the MCU1 for the newer MCU2 in my 2015 S85D. There was nothing wrong with the old one, but the performance improvement in graphics and ability to stream videos while charging is great!

nice color and it matches the interior as well

Great vidro, thank you

Great video, looking forward to the updates and also heading straight to auto trader lol.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Not for some time yet!

Thanks for this overview. I'm finding 5 year old premium/luxury EVs tempting because they're getting cheap and shouldn't be as expensive to maintain as luxury ICE due to fewer moving parts. Problem is there aren't many around, it's tesla model S or jaguar I-pace.

Wow!!! Great video!

According to the MOT from 9th July 2019 it had issues with opening the doors from the outside of the vehicle so it’s had it’s handles repaired at least once. It’s normally the wiring that breaks due to the frequent movement during retraction. That was at 42,654 miles.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, forgot about seeing that. You're right, the handles must have been repaired then. As expected, as there's now way early Model S handles would last 7 years.

@SirHackaL0t.

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos No, lol. 🤣

Lovely video. I am turning 18 in 5 weeks and getting my dads old Tesla Model S 85. Same interior as yours, not the sunroof. He got a Tesla model X raven performance, and boy it drives differen't than the model S. Is there anything I should prepare myself for?

My 2007 MB c230 wipers do exactly the same thing ...MB part(s) used back in the day!

Great review 22k seems holding good/strong price still considering its age and condition.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

This was around £63-64k when new in 2014. So around £5,700 per annum depreciation. Probably considerably lower than other large luxury cars like the Audi A8, Merc S-class or Range Rovers.

I bought a 2014 (also an S85) from Tesla off lease about 4 years ago. My warranty runs out in 5k miles, although like you said, the battery warranty lasts until 2022. I have unlimited Supercharging, so I'm thinking since this car pretty much looks and runs like the day I got it, to keep it for a long time. I have all the bells and whistles (including auto-pilot) so I'm good there. If I ever did sell it, I'd look for another used Model S. Definitely the best car I ever owned.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

Gorgeous green colour!

@GoGreenAutos

9 ай бұрын

Yes, its really grown on my and I think its one of Tesla's best colours.

Dope Review

I doubt other people can service this as the tech was very new, it had to go back to Tesla for services during those older days.

Great video. Congratulations! I bought a used 2015 S85D with only 12,004 miles in April 2019 and LOVE it. Felt like a new car! I was fortunate, at that time Tesla still offered a “like new” warranty of 4 years/50K miles, in addition to the 8 year drivetrain/battery warranty, so I still have over 1 year warranty left! Not a lot of things gone wrong, rear latch replaced, radar sensor rubber replaced, and a recall on the steering column screws and front latch check. I did have to replace the original 12v battery in February 2021, not bad for a 6 year old life! Tesla charged me $230 US dollars to replace. Recently, I have received offers to buy my car for US$5K more than what I paid! No way I would sell my Tesla!

Could check mot history may have some flags also may be serviced at same dealer?

I’m never selling my 2018 MS75D, it’s got FSD and physical buttons and parking sensors. The new cars are all “Tesla vision” and automatic vipers, and they just don’t work well enough. Love my car:)

I own a 2015. The condensation in the reverse lights come from that bar being swapped out. That is not the original Tesla bar. It was upgraded. The bar needs to be glued down to the lens but doesn't really fit to stay glued down. Tesla doesn't use a good enough adhesive. The original bar did not have a plastic cover. It went straight to the inner plastic. The key fob plastic casing can be bought from Tesla direct if you wish to have a new one. You are also missing the cover for your filter. That is probably why it is so dirty. You should be able to ask them for another one. I can guarantee this car has been worked on a lot during the warranty. Tesla never wants to give you the history, despite them keeping it. Those "Drop links" are not the first repair. I can tell just by the bar in the rear and the missing cabin air filter cap". They are also not cheap to run out of warranty. Most repairs are about 1k. I can also guarantee those door handles have been replaced. Check your front Valence to make sure they haven't broken. You shouldn't take the battery below 20% btw. I never go below 30% and I slow charge. The wipers speed up based on speed and rain coverage. Sitting still the wipers go at a steady rate until the rain is heavy.

@Top12Boardsport

Жыл бұрын

Condensation in the rear lights we have on all three Model S cars since 2014 and 2015 but no problem yet. Comes and goes. Some few under warranty things were repaired by Tesla like some door handles but that was like 5 years ago. The 12 volt batteries have been replaced after 7 years and that is just fantastic normally 12 volt batteries don’t last that long. But other than that only tires and windshield wipers. Still going strong after over 300.000 km on each. If anything happens to our HV batteries we will replace them with refurbished once and just keep on driving. Brakes will eventually also need replacement but not yet. Best cars our family ever has owned.

My 2013 S had plenty of problems early on, but they were all fixed by Tesla. Now with 100k miles it is completely reliable and doesn't show its age. No VANOS problems, no oil leaks, no accessory belt replacements, no O2 sensor replacement, no ...

@kens97sto171

2 жыл бұрын

My 2008 Toyota with 390,000 on it hasn't had any of those problems either. A lot of people that buy electric vehicles like a Tesla because it's a high-end luxury car they tend to be coming from Audi's or BMWs that are basically horribly unreliable. If you had driven a Toyota Avalon or Camry or something else certainly it would not be as nice and as exciting as an Audi. But you would not have had any of those problems either. My car still rolling on all the original suspension components, except for the struts themselves. Tie rod ends ball joints control arm bushings, engine doesn't leak a drop. Burns a little bit. But not enough to be worried. Still has the original sway bar links too.

@ronmac1832

2 жыл бұрын

@@kens97sto171 My Tesla is a garage queen and my Toyota gets daily use with zero issues. I hope it makes it to 390,000 miles! I've owned the horribly unreliable German cars and would never go back to those disasters.

@kens97sto171

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronmac1832 I think we're not going to know the final results of reliability on Tesla and others until there are a lot more of them on the road and many years have gone by. Tesla also has some issues to deal with service and repair. Once they start selling double or triple the number of cars that they do today. This problem is only going to multiply if they don't find some solution. Or if the cars end up being incredibly reliable and mostly perfect when they leave the assembly line. That would only leave car accidents and repairs related to that to deal with.

Great video, thanks for sharing! Do you think this level of wear/battery degradation can be expected from other similarily used teslas, or is this one slightly better, or worse?

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Most likely

@nigeljosling9435

3 жыл бұрын

Reported experience is about 1-1.5% in first year as battery beds in, then anywhere from 5%to 10% over first 100000 miles. Apparently there are plenty of cars with up to 400000 miles on them, still running fine.

That color is lovely!

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Its grown on me too, but it really shows the dirt, like black paint.

Great video very helpful new sub and bell clicked 😎😉👍

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

You are right about leafs. My Nissan leaf 30 kwhr teckna has done 24000 miles, lost 2 battery bars and roughly 20% of range in 5 1/2 years of ownership. llewelyn said that it was only the early Japanese imported cars like his that had problems. He is wrong .

I am considering for a model s 2014!but don't know what to do? can someone tell me if it's worth it?

Are there any videos of high mileage Tesla model s?

I’m looking to buy a 2014-2017 Model S and now doing research. I know this is 2 years ago - struggling to find current updates on this age range but what I have seen tempts me as they are less than £20k for 100k vehicles.

@GoGreenAutos

2 ай бұрын

Yes, you get a lot of car for your money now.

I love the colour ... Almost BRG... It's interesting to see it has worn well... Thanks for posting

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Difficult to keep clean though.

Hi, really good informative video for someone like me who is intersted in buying a used Model S as now you can pick one up 12-14k. Can i ask you if its a good idea to buy a 2014/15 year one with 100k plus miles on the clock (with free super charging). I understand the warranty will have expired so would you advise to still buy one as I read the battery should last for 300k plus miles.

@jibcano1777

3 ай бұрын

I am mainly looking at the ones listed by a local ev dealer, with their own battery shop. They offer a 1 or 2 year battery warranty. About $15k in us$ and up.

Very helpful and honest Matt, thanks for including the prices of the service items too. I was aware of the model a weak points - infotainment screen, handles, Whiney motors. Regarding the handles I heard they once were a £500 fix ?! Can we now get 3rd party spares for them or is there a firm selling exchange upgraded handles ? And regarding the motor, when it is time to repair / replace it are there 3rd party people able to do this or do you have a idea of Tesla cost ? Are service items ( suspension, brake parts ) readily available from 3rd parties now ? and are Tesla willing to sell parts to people / garages now ? Awesome awesome car would love one if the repairs aren’t going to bankrupt me.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Door handles are much cheaper to fix if you're willing to do it yourself. Service kits are available online and third party spares, plus plenty of KZread videos. Motors - probably Tesla only, but with an 8 year unlimited mileage warranty, then I'm not worrying about it for a while yet. Brakes, suspension all available third party. Brakes are made by Brembo and spares easily available. I've purchased genuine Brembo pads for around £90 for a full set, but you can get other brands for half this. The drop links cost £21 each, but you can get other brands cheaper too. All these items were purchased from www.autodoc.co.uk/ The bits are no more expensive than other vehicles. Tesla are on par with other main dealers too, but their labour rate is £145 per hour.

@dan123collins

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Thanks for the reply. Leaves me with a decision to make for the next car - head and wallet says Hyundai iconic, heart wants a Tesla ( not a fan boy, but their performance, in car tech and the supercharger network are all very appealing ) the 300 mile trip to my parents house would no doubt be easier in the Tesla.

@SirHackaL0t.

3 жыл бұрын

@@dan123collins I have a model 3 LR and it’s the best car I’ve owned in the last 35 years. The combination of great acceleration, excellent battery, long range, navigation system that makes range anxiety disappear, best car for safety and a very comfortable seat (amongst other things) meant it was a no brainer to me. Plus the Kona I was considering had a 12 month waiting list whilst my Tesla was bought within a month. :)

@dan123collins

3 жыл бұрын

@@SirHackaL0t. I would consider a Model 3 but the pricing of them is way out of my second hand car budget. whenever I’ve seen finance on them - ether PCP or lease they have been very expensive still. Saying all that they are holding their value very well so I could look into a super low apr bank loan and own one for a few years then sell on which would no doubt be a lot cheaper than official PCP route. I also hear Tesla is going to be releasing a even smaller and cheaper car in the next 2 years, so that could be a winner.

23:45 about the battery Thank me later

@a1ar127

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks😊

Should be able to add a external hard drive . You can get 1TB for decent money ..

My 110,000 UK miles P85 is just the same except I've not scuffed the trim as you get in. I specified no sunroof just a plain black roof, that was a good idea, the cars c of g is so low without the glass up there and obviously no leaks or noise. Doors and window seals all good, yes mould in the seam on the rear lights, jet wash them out. Good assessment on 100k Model S, these things last rattle free.Tesla only charge £60 for the CCS adaptor now, note many more Super charger then appear on your sat nav screen. And yes the seats are great after big miles and the cars dont rattle, build quality a bit questionable but little niggles sorted in the first few months of ownership, long term they hold together well. Early on I set easy entry to seat up wheel up seat back forward and guess what no interior wear on B post. Ive recently had all 4 door handles replaced with V2.5 which is the latest V3 handles mounted to the V back plates this means there are no microswitches or moving wires This mod was done by a Tesla Ranger for £1,400 as I had fixed 2 handles when the 3rd and 4th went. The mod has to be done on all 4 as the system software is updated but the new handles work by calibrating current draw off the motors so dont fail..............so far..............10 months later and counting.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Good to hear

i am considering a 2014 model s, battery warranty runs out in september. should i run away screaming?

Thanks for the review. Greetings from eastern Washington State, USA

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

In germany they use Tesla as Taxi. 450-900.000km normal service and no problems. replace accu in some cases.

This Mode S has aged extremely well. The style still looks fresh and fast. The English green also looks good in this especially for a used 7 year old car.

@sandersson2813

3 жыл бұрын

The Model S looks OK, but it is clearly based on the design of the Jaguar XF in profile, and that saloon car style simply looks out of date now. Tesla design, like many a American designs is really lazy and uninteresting. I much prefer the look of the I Pace, Etron, Polestar 2, Taycan etc.

@flixbue6565

3 жыл бұрын

​@@sandersson2813 Drive around in a Model S for a while, you'll notice that people beg to differ!

@sandersson2813

3 жыл бұрын

@@flixbue6565 Driving around in it doesn't change the design. It's not different enough. It just looks like a standard car. There's nothing that interesting about it. Like I said, not that different from an XF of the time.

@QUEEN-cn4ln

2 жыл бұрын

@@sandersson2813 can’t Ike they def copied jag maybe that’s why they hurried with the model 3 and y

I'll be interested to see what happens to these 1st gen electric cars in the next 2/3 years regards battery performance, whether it dips, how much they cost to renew and what happens to the old one when it gets reipped out, given that the warranty / service life will be over. That's the major factor for EVs in the long run for me. They have a service life for a reason and only Tesla knows why right now...

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

I would like try to keep this for the long term, as there's not much else to upgrade too without spending a considerably more about of money. A Jaguar i-Pace would be on the cards in the future, but currently they are £15,000 more. Maybe only a dual motor Motor S would temp me to swap.

@rafacq

2 жыл бұрын

I have 40K miles on my 2015 S85D and only seen a 2% battery degradation. I always charge to 90%, only 100% on a few times where I needed the extra 30 miles range in a long road trip.

@JetFire9

6 ай бұрын

@@rafacqStop think about degradation. That’s a distraction technique by EV evangelists. The bigger concern is catastrophic failure of the battery pack. It’s coming for you very soon, if not in the last year. 😂😂😂

@harriettanthony7352

3 ай бұрын

@@JetFire9 This comment by one who has read too many anti-EV screed sheets

@JetFire9

3 ай бұрын

@@harriettanthony7352You're read too many anti-ICE screed sheets. Do you work for Big Electric?? Are you part of the Anti-ICE Extremist Coalition?? EV's are a failure again. I owned one, so I know firsthand how people like you lie and are brainwashed. Your EV is a ticking timebomb. You lose.

This has me seriously considering a second hand Model S when my Zoe lease is up,...

@michaelheinrich44

3 жыл бұрын

its a hard decision between a used model s (2014/2015/2016) and a brand new model 3 sr+. The model s has a classic gauge cluster behimd the steering wheel and is sleeker (to me). But it has the charging and range struggle on the 85kwh pack (caused by the software-update from tesla to prevent warranty cases on the battery). The model 3 is the more modern state of the art drivetrain but has quality issues which cause you to beg tesla ro fix them after you got the car. That is annoying and unique in the car industry. Other automakers are aware of satisfying customers by expirience of perfect build quality. In germany, only few if any garages are available for fixing issues on the model s caused by aging or wear (whishbomes, water pumps and charger may fail). Hard decision.

@trumbaron

4 ай бұрын

Me too! Although I haven't got the Zoe yet. Did you buy a used Model S yet?

Thank great review we are think changing our 2018 33kw i3 for second hand Tesla S or New BMW i3s ✋🤔. What do you think

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

I've ran two i3's for a while. Nice cars but I found the narrow wheels got annoying, particularly the 20". After having hitting a pothole that burst two tyres and buckled one alloy, that was the final straw. The Tesla S is a very different car..in size too..so you can't really compare. You wouldn't compare a BMW 1 Series with a 7 series.

@doodzy2

3 жыл бұрын

i have the same i3, my petrol rex has broken so its literally battery only and its shit for long journeys, much rather the tesla. however if your rex still works then probably not much difference assuming you don't drive 100 miles every single day.

As well as getting regular software updates, one can also replace the MCU (the main control screen & computer) to the latest MCU2 version for about £1500. Yes it's a major amount of money but it gives you the latest gen processors, a much faster computer makes the pinch & zoom function on the map instant, everything else is much snappier and you get free Netflix access if you are on the Premium Subscription plan. For £200 you can also upgrade the old 3G modem to the latest 4G/LTE model which improves the entertainment system. Here in Norway, the original Model S vehicles came with lifetime free supercharging valid anywhere in Europe, so my daily running costs for energy will always be zero, no matter how high domestic electricity prices go. Electric vehicles here are also exempt from toll road charges and can use the dedicated bus/taxi lanes if the main lanes are congested. All EV sales are currently VAT exempt which is probably why 85% of all new car sales here are plug-in vehicles.

I have a Tesla with the exact same model that I bought brand new 6 years ago, and just had it towed to Tesla service center today after it suddenly lost driving power on the road. It's the 4th time in 6 months. Since it no longer warranteed by Tesla, my repair bills is over $10k this year alone.

@user-xf2tl8ee3c

2 жыл бұрын

Omg that is terrible. I was thinking about buying a used 2014 with 52k miles. What was the garages diagnosis?

How much do you think the drop links replacements would cost at a Tesla service centre? Thanks

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

I have no idea. But they are easy to do, so will be cheaper to use a local independent garage or mechanic.

Speaking of water & leaks etc how is the boot seals ? I have heard of other S owners complaining about the boot seals being useless and the boots getting wet either from rain or car washing ? Also on design when opening a wet or semi wet boot the water drains and drips into the boot .

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Not seen such an issue yet with this one, nor any evidence of previous wet carpets in the back. Wasn't that more of an issue with the Model 3?

@chrisrichmond403

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Glad to hear nothing on this one . I have looked online and have seen the above faults on both the S & 3 mentioned .

@SirHackaL0t.

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisrichmond403 The issue with the seals is more around the Model 3 boot lid pushing a lot of water onto the rear window which then overflows the seal into the boot. Easy to mitigate if you open the boot slowly. :)

230 miles range the same as new ??? I don't think so, the health status of the battery was not shown

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

You can't see that info on a Tesla. New diagnostic cable ordered and the limited information you can get out of them will be shown in a future video.

Great clip, but you failed to mention any battery degradation

@trumbaron

4 ай бұрын

He did talk abouit it.

Will Tesla cover a car that hasn't got full service history (Tesla or a vat registered garage) ? I know the car is out of warranty,but I am wondering if they will duck out of the drivetrain warranty because of the lack of a service paper (or electronic) trail.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

No service schedules on the Teslas and they state that warranty is still valid. However, if something had failed due to lack of maintenance, then that is a different story. Such as warped dics due to worn brake pads. But the drivetrain is maintenance free, so should be no issues.

could you do the video on changing the tesla brakes and showing what the brakes etc look like after almost 100,000 miles Is replacing the brake pads more down to them just getting old and being on the car over being used

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

I will do.

It looks like you got a super nice car, it's clean everything seems to work. Prices for this Model S in the US are still significantly higher. Mid high 30s. Into the low 40s. Making something like the VW ID4 a little too close in price for a brand new car. You definitely want to keep an eye on that motor noise and get it changed regardless before the warranty is up. They will be giving you a new redesigned motor that should never fail ever again. There are some aftermarket suppliers now to help take care of the door handle failures in these cars. The design of some of these is superior to the Tesla versions. And they're relatively easy to do yourself. Congrats on the new car. Certainly is a nice color and looks great inside and out.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

I did get the motor changed on this under warranty, see kzread.info/dash/bejne/q6Gk09mCqbS_ZNY.html and they've also now changed the traction battery too see kzread.info/dash/bejne/iHac1qOwhMTfl8Y.html and kzread.info/dash/bejne/pY2OlKOrc8S2e7g.html

@kens97sto171

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Thanks for the update, I'll take a look at those videos. Makes me a bit concerned about buying a older Tesla. Most of these are now past that 8 years. I drive 50,000 per year. So makes me a bit worried.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

@@kens97sto171 In the UK, the earliest Model S's will be going out of warranty this year, as we didn't get them until 2014. Mine is one of those early ones. If you can find one that has had the warranty work done, already then you should be ok.

@kens97sto171

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos That's been my thought also. Find one that has at least one or two years left of warranty so that if something would have happened right after purchase you'd still be covered. Or find one that had already had the motor and batteries and the MCU already replaced. I still think the Model S is the best looking car they built. I really don't particularly like the interior on the Model 3 and Model Y. Minimalistic is what they call it, boring and cheap is more how I see it. The materials quality is fine, it's just not a very inviting environment it's more sterile or something. If you look at like a Volkswagen ID4 or Even the lowly Chevrolet Bolt EV they have ambient lighting and just a more attractive interior. I think the Model S was very nice looking on the inside and is a good balance between those two.

@QUEEN-cn4ln

2 жыл бұрын

@@kens97sto171 yea I feel like they are losing there futuristic touch that’s y I’m willing to get the older s still bc the 3 & Y seem to be catering to the ppl not teslas vision interior wise. The sterile part made me laugh lol it’s funny bc I like my house to be a minimalistic design like that but a car not.

wow the cost of part are not what i thought they would be. changing to ccs for under £300 is a good bargain and should be done on all cars thats the price of the chad cable anyway and it does not always work and its slower than ccs as well.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Yes the CCS retro fit is a no brainer at £281, especially now that new Superchargers are CCS only.

where did you get that silicone cover for they "keys" ?

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

eBay I think. Or maybe Amazon. They're very common.

Give it a good paint correction and coating and keep driving it

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

That's my plan. The paint badly needs this! The front bumper has also been resprayed badly which I might get redone.

Thanks for helpful video. I've 2 questions for you. I'm in Ireland and found a Model S 2015 with similar mileage to buy from UK. When I did a paid history check it showed me that originally car was owned by Leasing company. Is that good or bad sign? Car probably had a good few riders during it's life and from other side car must've been well looked after by that company . And second question - could you pelase give us that Aliexpress or Ebay link for the key cover? It looked very practical to me. Thanks, val.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

I would estimate about 90% of all new vehicles are "owned" by a leasing company in the UK. Just because it is a leasing company, doesn't mean its had multiple drivers - the opposite actually. The vast majority of vehicles are financed by a leasing company and have one driver for that period of the lease. Key cover is www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003763122166.html

@ValZakharov

Жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Fantastic! Thanks a mill again. And just curiocity question - who would configure car when bought for leasing company - leaser or furute car user?

coolant leak?

my worry with one of these would still be expense of battery failure.. it would be nice if you could part exchange the battery for a new battery... i saw on rich rebuilds channel, there's a firm in the USA that do rebuilt tesla door handles for a couple of hundred dollars each, they've replaced all the cheap and nasty plastic cogs with metal and replaced the cable loom in the handle with one of much higher quality- why it costs hundred of dollars cheaper than a genuine tesla version? who knows...

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

But you could say the same about any vehicle - EV or ICE. If you're the type that worries about items breaking and the cost of repair, then buying a used vehicle isn't for you. Buy new or nearly new that still has warranty. All vehicles will suffer failed items at some point...that is why cars get cheaper the older they are! I've had old ICE vehicles in the past that suffered gearbox failure and I then had to decide whether to replace or scrap the car. The reality is that EVs are considerably more reliable than ICE vehicles, so far less risk. But then its also reality that there are less choices when EVs break and they can be costly to repair, but that is simply because its a new market, less skills, less parts, less upgrade options etc etc.

Is it still doing regular downloads from Tesla and can you still get free supercharging

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Yes & yes

I am considering buying a MS from 2014-16, but I am concerned with the powertrain/battery being near or already out of warranty. To all whom know: what would you suggest checking and be mindful of when viewing one?

@joeozzie1

Жыл бұрын

Not a big concern, you may loose 15 miles of range by that time and should hold steady for 15 years. Charge the vehicle to full and see the range in miles. If 265 new, and a 10-20 drop in miles, no issues.

@stefanhendrickx979

Жыл бұрын

Get a dongle 90 euro to connect to car gets you complete analysing off each battzry, milage, charginh etc, all to you phone in real time DMAX brand i think

love the car

I was considering to buy this, but my fiancé didn’t like to colour. I would not be happy to see the water stain in the roof. I bought a newer but entry level 2016 facelift Model S 70 in Obsidian black for £26K with 117K miles. I think it’s worth to pay a little extra for longer warranty and newer look but nevertheless every Tesla is a piece of art, driving them is a real joy. I am still over the top of it after month as it’s the best car I ever had.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

That was a good price for a facelift. Prices seem to be on the rise now. The staining is only where the sunroof drain channels were blocked and then if parked on a slope, the water runs to the back of the sunroof gullies and then into the car. If you park a MS on a slop, it needs to be nose down!

@dangr3957

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Great thing to know, mine one has the traditional roof so I can park nose up on a slope :D I feel extremely lucky to find my Model S, I am looking ever since the market, and nothing really below £32K only if it's CATD/S.

@FFVoyager

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos "Prices seem to be on the rise now." I know you are a salesman, and others in the EV selling world have been saying the same, but I have seen the exact opposite. Prices are ticking down over time. Additionally as time passes we'll be getting more and more 2nd hand cars out of the Tesla network. Back in 2014/15 there were pretty small numbers sold. By 2018 (three years ago and coming out of lease now?) many, many more. Short of a need for the huge carrying capacity (or mega acceleration of the P models?) I'd not see an mid spec Model S being 'worth' more than a year old Model 3 to most UK buyers. (Even Tesla aren't trying to sell the Model S here at the moment!) This will all have an effect on decreasing the used prices of older models.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

@@FFVoyager Ahh, but I'm not actually selling any older Model S's at the moment! What I'm seeing is they are making way over CAP price in the trade. The oldest Model S vehicles are currently selling at £2-3K above CAP price. This is why I purchased this one privately and it was less than I could buy one at auction blind. I did watch a later P100D make £10,000 over CAP price two weeks ago!!

@FFVoyager

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos a P100D is new enough to still be lush (and Tesla aren't selling new ones) to be desirable and I did exclude folk who want mega accelerating P models from my simple equation!. Given CAP should be basing their prices on used sales the equation could be out of balance because of slower sales over the past few lockdown months? Also back in the old days the trade guides were not good at coping with valuing individual cars with lots of desirable accessories either. So a top spec sub-3 (or 4) year old Model S in a choice colour with lovely interior and loaded with all the options will still be desirable. My point is that a 6,7 or 8 year old, getting on for 100k miles, 'classic' Model S ought to be a very good deal as the warranty gets close to expiring because of the rising numbers of newer cars coming down the line. Perhaps we are a few months away from that at moment?

Where would you suggest shopping for a private sale anywhere in the UK? I’m looking for a 2014 to 2016 Model S that’s VAT qualifying to purchase around Christmas.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

Autotrader. But you'll struggle (near impossible) find a VAT qualifying one at that age. You'll need to be looking for one straight from the lease company and this is typically 3 (or 4 years) old.

@DavidManouchehri

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Thank you, that makes a lot of sense why I wasn’t able to find many. I do see the rare ex-hire car around the 25,000 GBP range, but I was surprised to hear you say you got yours for closer to 20,000 GBP?

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidManouchehri Prices have risen since. Mine has gone up about £8K since owning it.

@DavidManouchehri

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Wow! Is it just low supply of new cars driving the values up of used cars? I might just wait it out if that's the case, I guess I can go another year without a car.

It might be worth seeing if you can get Tesla to pay to upgrade the MCU to V2. You get 4G and a snappier experience.

@bobf711

3 жыл бұрын

There is no chance Tesla will pay for that - many have asked and been refused even with a dead MCU. Upgrade by all means but it will cost £1400 or thereabouts and you will lose am, fm and DAB radio as a result. A radio upgrade is also possible for an additional cost of around £400 or you can just rely on web-based radio or streaming services.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I looked at this and its not worth the money.

Charging speed has been reduced a lot since 2019 due to sw update to protect the battery.

@Clixlol

3 жыл бұрын

They lost lawsuit in norway cause of update slowing charging

@HansKruse

3 жыл бұрын

@@Clixlol Yes, that's the news, but Tesla still has to respond and appeal before the end of the month. So nothing is really decided. I went on a trip from Copenhagen to Kiruna in the North of Sweden last autumn and even with the reduced sharging speed it was not that bad. But now you have to plan for arriving at a supercharger with reallyt low state of charge to make it efficient and only go to the next supercharger. This is what I already always did on long trips with this car since the charging speed always fall off quite a bit at higher SOC. So perhaps as big a deal as it is made to be. But of course I would love to have a faster charging speed. But anything like model 3 we will never get with such an old car. My 2014 P85 still drives amazingly well.

@computerbob06

3 жыл бұрын

@@HansKruse A well written reply, many thanks. Any idea what the maximum speed of charge you can get?

@HansKruse

3 жыл бұрын

@@computerbob06 I just checked the charging speed of my 2014 P85 which has done 262.000km in total on the same batterypack. At 5% it was charging at 125KW, at 10% 108KW, at 15% 97KW, at 20% 86KW, at 25% 79KW, at 30% 72KW, at 35% 65KW. At and earlier session I saw 53KW at 50%, 42KW at 60%. So as you can see the charging speed decreases quite rapidly and beyond 60% it goes really slow. But between many superchargers 60% is enough to reach the next one even at motorway speeds. So for me it is mildly annoying, but can sort of live with it as otherwise I would have to sell the car and pay quite a bit to get a model S without this decrease in charging speed. It would have to be minimum a 90KWH pack. If I should buy a newer model S it would be Raven model so at least from the 2019 models when the Raven was released. That would cost about 2x the value of the P85 so at the moment at stay with the P85.

@HVM_fi

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Clixlol Most of the Nordic countries have three-tier-court system, this was in lowest one; local or "district court". If you have money that verdict means very little. Tesla did not even sent their lawyer in there! They will just appeal and go to the Court of appeal "Lagmannsrett". And I guess sent lawyer this time. (And they can appeal to the Supreme Court, but that level can select the cases which it takes in)

I like the part where it’s out of warranty and can only be serviced by Tesla. lol 1 yr left on the limited warranty and if the motor isn’t replaced, that will be an expensive service charge. Those ‘minor things’ like the wiper motors add up to the cost.

@FlyingFun.

Жыл бұрын

Tesla parts are expensive , I would like to buy one but it's risky imho.

Price?

Very nice video!!! For someone who is buying their first electric car, would you recommend to buy an IONIQ 2021 with a mileage of around 28,000 pounds 15,000km for the price of or a Tesla 2016 S70D with around 100,000km for the same price. Thank you.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

In the UK, these two cars wouldn't be the same price. The Tesla would be at least £10,000 more than the Ioniq. I assume you do mean the Ioniq 38kWh, not the Ioniq 5?

@Zorrely021

Жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos yes that one. In Norway its different probably. But anyway...what is your opinion if someone maybe want choose between those two cars?

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

@@Zorrely021 If you do long distance driving, go for the Tesla. The Supercharging network and the integration with the in car sat nav is amazing. For performance, go for the Tesla. For utter reliability, go for the Ioniq as you'll definitely have less trips to the garage. However, while I do like the Ioniq (I also have a 28kWh Ioniq), its a bit dull compared to a Model S. My 2014 Model S has been the most unreliable EV I've owned, but also the best EV at the same time. I could sell it now at a considerable profit (see kzread.info/dash/bejne/jHh_x7mJe9CtZcY.html) but I'm keeping it, because there isn't another EV I'd rather drive.

@Zorrely021

Жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Thank you very much for your reply. I am looking to find a good car for my family in that price range. I'm not an expert on Tesla, so I don't know how I would go about buying one. Because Tesla should be thoroughly checked before buying. I certainly have to look at the breakdowns in both cars. Because honestly, if the Tesla starts to break down, the question is whether I would be able to deal with it financially because I'm tight on money. Maybe you, as an expert, have a better suggestion for a car for me in that range?

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

@@Zorrely021 a 2016 Tesla will still have two years warranty on the powertrain, but no warranty on the rest. A 2016 vehicle is also very different to my 2014 Model S, as Tesla constantly improves components. If you can get a Model S for the same money as a Ioniq, go for the Model S. But if you want complete peace of mind, the 2021 Ioniq will still have 4 warranty on everything. They are very different cars, so you really need to view/try them.

It would be fun to see how much supercharging capacity it has left.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@SirHackaL0t.

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Older Tesla charge slower when DC charging. Tesla slows them down over time to protect the battery from abuse. It’s a common thing.

@roblbrewer

3 жыл бұрын

The RWD 85kw battery got 265 mi. on a full charge when new. If it's getting 220 now, that's about average degradation for a car w/ 95k miles. I kept a 2013 S85 for 145k miles and it still got 220 miles on 90% charge.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

@@roblbrewer Thanks

@AMacProOwner

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Late answer, but I wanted to find Bjørn Nylands graph showing the supercharging capacity for the older Model S he had. : docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_yBOPx_iRoQPR75RrxHeMvPzLvLwx40b76xLQ-W2FrI/edit#gid=0 These things are super fun, because they're so different for each vehicle. Great channel! Fun content!

The only car that ever used the Chadamo plug was used on the Nissan Leaf and was limited to 50 amps DC. Does the UK not use the Tesla plug or is it slowly being phased out? I will have to admit it must feel strange to Americans to drive on the “ wrong “ side of the road in the UK. At least Tesla eventually switched at the factory to building cars with the controls on the right side of the vehicle instead of the left as is American practice. I have to admit it appears the UK road system is in much better shape than American highways. Even if they do drive on the “ wrong “ side of the road. Cheers!

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Actually there's other EVs in the UK that use Chademo as this was the standard (and still is) Asian DC connector. So vehicles like the Kia Soul, Peugeot iOn, Peugeot Partner van, Mitsubishi i-MiEV and others use Chademo. We never had the Tesla plug in the UK, apart from on the early Tesla Roadsters I believe. All Superchargers have only ever been the Tesla type2 standard and now more recently CCS.

How is it going with the car? Still running?

@GoGreenAutos

4 ай бұрын

No. Unfortunately I had an accident with a deer (at about 120,000 miles) and the insurance company deemed it a total loss.

Are you impressed with this Tesla then? ;)😂 Another very informative video, and it has certainly made me consider a used Tesla. I’m impressed!

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I am - can you tell? Its like the MG ZS EV - better than you're expecting.

@Turbo999be

3 жыл бұрын

2013 MS 85 with 255.000km owner here... best EV car for the price. I bought it 2 years ago from a dealer. Got the battery replaced under warranty. Drives like a charm and will make a few hundreds km more. Free supercharger is a major advantage for me because I have a supercharger 5km away from home. I have 370km of range at full charge but managed to make up to 420km on a charge in good conditions.

@michaelheinrich44

3 жыл бұрын

@@Turbo999be consider charging at home, slow rates over night. It will save your battery a lot. Superchargimg is stress and was ment for long distance trips

@Turbo999be

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelheinrich44 55.000km done up to know, from ScanMyTesla app I did not lose a single 0.1kwh of nominal full pack capacity in 18 month. My range did not change at all. One Tesla technician told me that Tesla did change the charging profile for MS85 and that supercharging the car is not a problem anymore.

air from the arch end of the drainage channel. blow up maybe

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I am going to try that, but not had the time to remove the wheel arch liner yet. Not a quick job.

@G-Cam1

3 жыл бұрын

Or a bit of strimmer 'wire'.. it's worked for me on other vehicles..

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

@@G-Cam1 That is exactly what I tried. Had two thicknesses and neither would get any further than 1cm in the hole.

@G-Cam1

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos you can perhaps try it on the end of a slow drill... Failing that I would try an air line... They can be tricky...

I'd love to buy a Tesla and the Model S feels like it would be a real luxurious purchase much closer to my budget than a new Model 3. But having a business, it makes more sense to buy a new car to claim the tax back.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

What tax? VAT?? If so, you can buy VAT qualifying used models.

@StuartDWright

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos No, not VAT (in fact I didn't think it was possible to claim VAT back on a company car) - I thought that it's possible to write off (is it) 9%? of the list price of a new EV in the first 12 months?

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

@@StuartDWright Correct, you can't reclaim VAT on a company car, unless it is solely used for business use (such as a taxi, driving school etc). Although I have spoken to many that have!! You get 100% capital allowance - businesses can write down 100% of the purchase price against corporation tax in year 1. Also 1% benefit in kind tax for company car drivers in 2021/22 tax year.

@StuartDWright

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos but that doesn’t apply to used cars, right? I need an EV that can do 230+ miles real world. My 28kw Ioniq is awesome but no longer serves my purposes. Problem is that I can’t justify £50k on a M3LR. Even with the new boom box and goat horn.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

@@StuartDWright I thought it was used too (on EVs) but stand corrected - 100% write down on new only. Used is 18% per year. All the details here www.gov.uk/capital-allowances/business-cars Do you really need 230+ miles in one go?? If you do, then you need a car with a 75kWh or greater battery pack. For long distance driving, its really got to be a Tesla for their Supercharger network.

Haven't Tesla been in hot water in Norway for doing the old Apple trick with battery, software updates reducing the charge speed and reducing the range

@Rudenbehr

3 жыл бұрын

“Trick” = protecting the battery because the laws of chemistry and physics.

@acelectricalsecurity

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rudenbehr rubbish, if that was the case why did they have to pay the customers thousands of dollars in compensation.

Does it come with a key card ?

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

No. Model S has the traditional key fobs. Only the Model 3/Y get the cards.

The reason why they're cheap is because the 8 year drive train warranty is about to run out. After that the cost of repairs is eye watering: Battery $24,000, drive units $8,000 each, struts $6,000, control arms $3,000, MCU $1,800, rear light unit $1,000, door handle $1,000 etc, etc.

@Mrbfgray

3 жыл бұрын

Drive train warrantee apparently only applies to the drive train and batt.

@rmcfadde1

2 жыл бұрын

Service center changed my front passenger door handle for $150 five months ago.

I really wanted to watch this but cant commit to 31 mins! Do you have a summary video?

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

Watch it at double speed then

@JD-env1

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Fascinating. Thanks for answering my question!

Looks very much like British racing green.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

It does!

Just for your information not a single 85 has 85kwh of battery capacity. Most of the 85 I know have roughly 73-78kwh from which you have 69-74kwh usable. I won't buy an 85 that has not had its drivetrain replaced and I would rather buy an 85 that has had its original battery replaced because most original battery packs have failed after roughly 150.000 miles and having a failed battery pack ouside the warranty is a major blow.

@GoGreenAutos

3 жыл бұрын

I've got a diagnostic cable on order so will make a future video about the battery info that can be gleaned from the car.

@Turbo999be

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Yep ! That's a good idea. ScanMyTesla app is really good.