How to Write EPIC Cinematic Strings

How to write cinematic orchestral string parts starting with just 4-note chords.
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Writing for violin, viola, cello, and contrabass can seem like a daunting task. In this video we'll go step by step through the scoring process and uncover how orchestration can be approached methodically.
Using a technique from a 1928 book by Arthur E. Heacox called Project Lessons In Orchestration, we'll learn how to go from a standard soprano, alto, tenor, bass arrangement and turn it into the epic Hollywood string sound we know and love!
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#orchestration #strings #cinematicstrings
0:00 Intro
0:33 Starting out
2:46 The filler
2:51 6 voices
3:39 7 voices
4:10 8 voices
4:49 9 voices option A
5:19 9 voices option B

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  • @RyanLeach
    @RyanLeach2 жыл бұрын

    🎻 Without This Your Orchestration Sounds Thin kzread.info/dash/bejne/n211l9Cwm6urc6Q.html

  • @eosborne6495
    @eosborne64952 жыл бұрын

    I have been absolutely loving these videos. I’ve been playing folk and jazz music for most of my life, but never felt qualified to write in a more “classical” style. You do such a great job of demystifying orchestral music so I finally have the confidence to start writing down my ideas. Thank you thank you!

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, glad it was helpful!

  • @siddonarski7428

    @siddonarski7428

    2 жыл бұрын

    if you would write proper Jazz, im sorry but you could write basically anything..

  • @rwlab1253
    @rwlab12532 жыл бұрын

    I really, really (seriously) enjoy the fact that you took the time to make short and sectioned videos that are focused on specific techniques. I have seen countless "Cinematic Strings" videos that drag on for an hour and is basically a livestream recording. Your videos are dense and concise on the other hand. THANK YOU RYAN!

  • @lung6171
    @lung61712 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god, that's a GREAT lesson. Thank you!

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @TylerJMacDonald
    @TylerJMacDonald2 жыл бұрын

    Not once in years of music school was a concept illustrated so well like this, well done!

  • @louispearson8306
    @louispearson83062 жыл бұрын

    This man just giving away the big secrets like candy

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha it's all in the books I just read them

  • @spacedjace57
    @spacedjace572 жыл бұрын

    i also think that its great to have the cellos play the melody is that most orchestras have the cellos on the opposite of the violins. giving it this effect of being wrapped up in the melody and really solidifies it as the melody

  • @EVDMcomposer
    @EVDMcomposer2 жыл бұрын

    So today I was busy with a string section for a song I am working on and it just sounded all too ... flat and empty. So I listened to Across the Stars to find some idea or inspiration to guide me. Then your video just popped up explaining how to orchestrate better, fuller string sections using Across the Stars as an example. What a coincidence!

  • @kelamuni
    @kelamuni2 жыл бұрын

    As a violinist and violist who's played in orchestras for years and is now studying voicing and harmony so as to get into arranging, this was useful. subscribing.

  • @simongross3122
    @simongross31222 жыл бұрын

    Terrific lesson, thank you. For me the step that had the most impact was adding in the grumpy double basses

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, yea as someone who played double bass in high school I have a fondness for those bears as well

  • @simongross3122

    @simongross3122

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RyanLeach Well you have my admiration. I have tried to play DB and I discovered that my fingers were not strong enough. It's an awesome instrument. The best I can manage is noodling around on a baritone sax :)

  • @samdajellybeenie14

    @samdajellybeenie14

    2 жыл бұрын

    Double bass player here! I absolutely love playing John Williams’s music - it’s so well orchestrated and powerful!

  • @Lufade

    @Lufade

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simongross3122 Ohhh the buttery tone you can get with a bari sax though!!!

  • @simongross3122

    @simongross3122

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Lufade I have to say bari sax is the most fun to play of any instrument I've tried. And yes it can be surprisingly lyrical as well as grumpy grouchy :)

  • @kittyneko7
    @kittyneko72 жыл бұрын

    The mention of parallel octaves set me back 13 years when I’d receive my harmony homework with red parallel lines all over it. Our teacher really didn’t want us playing it back on the piano to check our work, but looking back on it, I think I would have figured out how to practically apply what I learned in class if I hadn’t followed that guidance.

  • @BrofUJu

    @BrofUJu

    9 ай бұрын

    Confused by this. Parallel octaves are all over the place in classical music through history, parallel fifths are not.

  • @dylanschweitzer18
    @dylanschweitzer1817 күн бұрын

    Fantastic work!

  • @benjaminduk5764
    @benjaminduk57642 жыл бұрын

    This is such a great lesson! Please do more of these.

  • @DavidManu-io9bo
    @DavidManu-io9bo3 ай бұрын

    this is abbbsoluuuute epic

  • @JakopAxx
    @JakopAxx2 жыл бұрын

    Love this! So happy that i have found this channel. Great work!

  • @albertolopez2697
    @albertolopez26974 ай бұрын

    What a great video, very helpful and handy. Thanks Ryan

  • @jeanpierrecarpentier
    @jeanpierrecarpentier2 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are really helpful and the simple direct to the point explanations are worth analyzing and learning. Thanks for sharing that precious knowledge.

  • @irradix213
    @irradix213 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for these linked lessons, this is the only one i knew most of already, but needed a review, together they fill out a big picture of things just sitting right

  • @Antonio_Ortiz
    @Antonio_Ortiz Жыл бұрын

    Super-quick and the colored string lines really helped illustrate the point. Earned a sub.

  • @FilmScoreandMore
    @FilmScoreandMore2 жыл бұрын

    Really interesting and informative video! I knew exactly what theme this was as soon as that first chord hit.

  • @alexandrequeiroz3211
    @alexandrequeiroz3211 Жыл бұрын

    Soooo great!! Thank you so much for the videos!!!

  • @tonio3375
    @tonio33752 жыл бұрын

    I really like your lessons! Very clear and concise!

  • @cefcephatus
    @cefcephatus2 жыл бұрын

    This opens up my eyes to how an iterative approach is used for writing music. Thank you very much!

  • @CarlineFrancois
    @CarlineFrancois Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this video. It will help in my compositions for my album. This gave me a new idea.🎶🎸🎵🎶💕

  • @ShivSagar010
    @ShivSagar01011 ай бұрын

    Thank You Very Much Sir! 🙂🙏

  • @seanjamesmacleod241
    @seanjamesmacleod2412 жыл бұрын

    Amazing I got more understanding. It’s funny by hear I was already doing most this because it sounded better to me just never knew the principle was actually something that can be done.

  • @jimli0624
    @jimli06248 ай бұрын

    thank you!

  • @dknowbeatz3665
    @dknowbeatz36654 ай бұрын

    Every video I play from your channel, I immediately hit the like button because I know I'm about to receive some incredibly helpful information. Thanks a ton, Ryan.

  • @suhaibal-samman4806
    @suhaibal-samman48068 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much 🙏🏻💜

  • @detlefkrystofiak3838
    @detlefkrystofiak3838 Жыл бұрын

    Hello Ryan, I have never seen such a comprehensible explanation. Thank you for this detailed video.

  • @Jack-pl1fn
    @Jack-pl1fnАй бұрын

    Thank you so much

  • @samtasticsongs3012
    @samtasticsongs3012 Жыл бұрын

    Super helpful! Please do more videos like this!

  • @lorenzocorsomusic1308
    @lorenzocorsomusic13082 жыл бұрын

    Great Lesson !!!

  • @remiweisrock
    @remiweisrock8 ай бұрын

    Maybe the best 6 min i've spent on a video for my knowledge. Man that's good !

  • @dvera9948
    @dvera99482 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much, I just made a composition for a short film and the strings ended up sounding great. I Love your videos

  • @koti6519
    @koti65192 жыл бұрын

    Great content man!!!

  • @guitarmichael
    @guitarmichael2 жыл бұрын

    This channel is an absolute goldmine!

  • @josephyagappan1896
    @josephyagappan1896 Жыл бұрын

    Very useful!!

  • @davidbobowski3604
    @davidbobowski3604 Жыл бұрын

    This was a good way to describe without getting into the harmonic series!

  • @Yonikaii
    @Yonikaii2 жыл бұрын

    This content is really really useful! Thank you for your efforts and for sharing your knowledge!

  • @kondsiccMusic
    @kondsiccMusic2 жыл бұрын

    I've always struggled with writing orchestral works classified as "classical" but they never sound classical nor did they achieve the effect I want. This lesson on strings truly brought the entire level of the work up an octave. Thanks Ryan!

  • @yansaemusic
    @yansaemusic2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing!

  • @GTORT
    @GTORT2 жыл бұрын

    Literally the best channel on this platform.

  • @cactusowo1835
    @cactusowo1835 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for crating ^ ^

  • @andreasadler7279
    @andreasadler7279 Жыл бұрын

    Short and sweet nevertheless massive info. Vielen Dank 🙏

  • @octatonicgardenmarcospi4978
    @octatonicgardenmarcospi49782 жыл бұрын

    Very nice video. Thanks!

  • @cynax7757
    @cynax77572 ай бұрын

    Absolutely love these videos. I'm a flutist and clarinetist.

  • @13Semitones
    @13Semitones2 жыл бұрын

    This is really useful. Thank you!

  • @giovanniperin
    @giovanniperin2 жыл бұрын

    Great channel!!

  • @arendbruijn
    @arendbruijn2 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful video!

  • @gavinleepermusic
    @gavinleepermusic Жыл бұрын

    Really liked this one, Ryan!

  • @michellamontagne
    @michellamontagne2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ryan nicely taught

  • @joshuanirmal9068
    @joshuanirmal90682 жыл бұрын

    Extraordinary. Thank you so much, gentleman. ♥️

  • @DanielLight
    @DanielLight2 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful! Thanks.

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    No worries!

  • @beethovennine
    @beethovennine2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Cheers from Argentina!

  • @mazetoeden9334
    @mazetoeden93342 жыл бұрын

    very helpful indeed

  • @SharmaYelverton
    @SharmaYelverton Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic.

  • @Johannes_Brunnhuber
    @Johannes_Brunnhuber2 жыл бұрын

    Sublime stuff

  • @zimouspero
    @zimouspero2 жыл бұрын

    Very good info

  • @cozmicrahop9415
    @cozmicrahop94152 жыл бұрын

    This is what I was looking for to complete my midi-orchestration self learning....😢😢😢🥇💯

  • @lim7lim
    @lim7lim2 жыл бұрын

    I only play the piano, but it's interesting to see how much that enables me to read an orchestral score, or understand how a piano score would balloon into an orchestral one.

  • @MrCrompz
    @MrCrompz2 жыл бұрын

    Wow!

  • @user-ou2zr2oy2q
    @user-ou2zr2oy2q2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing as always Ryan 👏

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @Hubson55
    @Hubson552 жыл бұрын

    OMG! Ryan, your channel is a real revelation for me! 😍

  • @jordanrazowskymusician8178
    @jordanrazowskymusician81782 жыл бұрын

    Great!

  • @ThomC
    @ThomC2 жыл бұрын

    Great video Ryan, thank you for sharing! :)

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    No worries!

  • @seanfourie7
    @seanfourie72 жыл бұрын

    Love your tutorials Ryan

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks I appreciate it!

  • @rasmussavic4289
    @rasmussavic42892 жыл бұрын

    amazing.

  • @Johnstone565
    @Johnstone565 Жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @_donut6817
    @_donut68172 жыл бұрын

    This is increadible

  • @grant999mtl
    @grant999mtl2 жыл бұрын

    This is amazingly helpful! Are these different breakdowns also applied to the brass and woodwind sections of an orchestra?

  • @tuzemec9005
    @tuzemec90055 ай бұрын

    You are my angel bro❤ Th very very very much .God bless you

  • @steamer2k319
    @steamer2k3192 жыл бұрын

    Awesome. Do you have any thoughts, guidelines or interesting examples around extending this approach to incorporate brass, woodwind and/or percussion?

  • @ishagshafeeg
    @ishagshafeeg2 жыл бұрын

    Wow. So beautiful

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @Phloxx1
    @Phloxx12 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ryan. Great video! What would be great is if you’d showed each individual voice at the end, so we would have an idea what each voice sounded like

  • @user-bc6jq3qv3f
    @user-bc6jq3qv3f Жыл бұрын

    Спасибо! Очень полезно) И Очень доступно доносите материал!))

  • @MusicMazhic
    @MusicMazhic2 жыл бұрын

    Would you please make a video how to have a rich combination of the woodwinds and strings?

  • @emilianorevert2358
    @emilianorevert23582 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Thanks for doing this stuff! My orch teacher used to call the filler the "hidden harmony".

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice, that's a great term!

  • @Lufade
    @Lufade2 жыл бұрын

    Ryan, just....thank you. Your videos have had a noticeable impact on my work in a very short period of time. I just put together a 9 voice section in strings (using the beastly method B), and I'm a little blown away by how powerful it's sounding. Exactly what I needed this part to be! I've just become a Patron and I'll be looking to your content here and there quite frequently from now on. Thanks!!

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's so great to hear, thank you

  • @zakfoster1
    @zakfoster1 Жыл бұрын

    This helps....Massively

  • @AaronAsherRandall
    @AaronAsherRandall Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely incredible explanation! Exactly what I needed! Question, what would the brass and winds do during a passage like this? Do you have any videos or resources on that?

  • @ericsbuds
    @ericsbuds Жыл бұрын

    thats wild how much it sounded more and more like the movie with each expansion

  • @athishayjain.m.k9257
    @athishayjain.m.k9257 Жыл бұрын

    VERY NICE... CAN WE HAVE MORE EXPLATION ON DOIN FILLER NOTES plzz tq soo much

  • @darrenhirst9900
    @darrenhirst99002 жыл бұрын

    Epic lesson Ryan.

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Darren!

  • @thynature
    @thynature2 жыл бұрын

    Great lesson. The filler line is very interesting as a concept!

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I agree, and outside of this obscure book I’m not sure I’ve seen it talked about

  • @XoIoRouge
    @XoIoRouge7 ай бұрын

    Do you have a lesson on writing in Choral Style? I'm struggling with coming up with the core parts.

  • @onwuzudika4338
    @onwuzudika43382 жыл бұрын

    Hey Ryan! I only just discovered your channel two weeks ago, but the videos have been so enlightening that I've found myself drinking through most of them! Thanks for the lessons and the comprehensive way you provide us young urn with the info✌️😅. The example in the first 13 seconds of this particular video had me hooked immediately, and actually pushed me to try my hand at trying to expand one of my favourite pieces into an orchestral version of itself. It's slow going (I don't have much in the way of formal music training, and taught myself most of what little I know) but it's actually going 😄 Wish you could give your opinion on my attempt so far (fingers crossed on a response). But seriously, thanks for your content⭐

  • @pljdavies
    @pljdavies Жыл бұрын

    wow

  • @collectitbydiyversity2442
    @collectitbydiyversity24429 ай бұрын

    So helpful. Thanks. What SAW are you using in this video?

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    9 ай бұрын

    for a DAW I use Logic

  • @BombedNevada
    @BombedNevada2 жыл бұрын

    That’s a like from me my dude. Great vid! Now if only someone could teach me how to write a bomb melody and chord progression like that.

  • @Lotschi
    @Lotschi Жыл бұрын

    I have developed an interest for composition over the last two years, so I really appreciate videos like yours. What software do you use, here for example? 0:10

  • @zlodr9369
    @zlodr93692 жыл бұрын

    Вот это алгоритмы ютуба выдали ! Райан, спасибо за годную информацию, лайк, подписка))

  • @Hert42
    @Hert426 ай бұрын

    Very nice orchestration, if you have enough players per section to go into division though...

  • @seekertosecrets
    @seekertosecrets Жыл бұрын

    I may have to use this in a melody that I have for a villainous character I've been developing.

  • @austinlacy4413
    @austinlacy4413 Жыл бұрын

    sweeeeet

  • @dmitrysoroka1981
    @dmitrysoroka1981 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, Ryan. Can you explain, please, why at stage of creating four voice harmony we care so much about voice leading, correct tone doubling, spacing between alto and tenor (I mean close and wide chord position)? But at the stage of orchestration it looks like that all is not still so important, and any chord tone is doubled several times in any octave. Are there still some rules, which of voices and when can be doubled? Maybe some special cases for 6 and 6/4 chords? What if chord is 7, can we double seventh of this chord in octave as well in some other instrument?

  • @MichaelJohnson-composer
    @MichaelJohnson-composer2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Ryan! Are you planning on doing a video about mixing symphonic music? I’m having a hell of a time working with orchestral plug-ins in Logic Pro X. Is there a video that you’ve already done that you can recommend? By the way, your videos have revitalized my creativity. I’ve been learning so much about orchestration from you. Thanks for the great work!

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    Probably not in the near future, but I would suggest you check out the recent livestream we did with Joel Dollie as well as his YT channel and course on Master the Score

  • @sharpproductions-frankbria8380
    @sharpproductions-frankbria83802 жыл бұрын

    So in 9 voices option B, the tenor line goes up to Violas 2? It would be awesome to see a full graphic of the lines for 9 voices option B in the video, just as feedback. By the way, I love this video and you do a great job of representing the orchestration techniques of these books. Ever think of doing a video where you just cover orchestration texts? (Kind of like you did with the orchestral scores?) I'd probably binge a few of them. :)

  • @YouTw1tFace
    @YouTw1tFace Жыл бұрын

    I’m haven’t tried this with my daw and libraries yet, but I would imagine having that many instruments would cause the volume to clip. Do you have any tips for that? Just reduce the volume of each instrument?

  • @felixeror
    @felixeror2 жыл бұрын

    Your channel is great man..very informative and articulate..Thanks for the knowledge I have a question though..for the very last scenario of the 9 voices where would the Tenor voice (in its original register) go ? Now that we placed the soprano down an octave for cello 2..would we just omit the Tenor ? Thanks again for your amazing work !

  • @RyanLeach

    @RyanLeach

    2 жыл бұрын

    For that last 9 voice version from top to bottom it's this, so the original tenor line ends up on the violas. Soprano 8va Alto 8va Tenor 8va Soprano Alto Tenor Soprano 8vb Bass Bass 8vb

  • @felixeror

    @felixeror

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RyanLeach Thank you so much !

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