“Two Drops come out”, a descriptive Phase I will remember forever. Beautiful.

@lynlalalala

2 жыл бұрын

I laughed so hard at that remark, I almost had a lot more than two drops come out! ☺️

@Mauronic100

2 жыл бұрын

Hilarious

@furgulley8077

2 жыл бұрын

I totally wasn't expecting it when he said that!😂😂

I really love the care you put into your electrical. Most would call it over-engineering. I call it smart.

Good morning, George. I’m loving the regularly scheduled video series again.

You are truly a Craftsman. You should take an apprentice and teach them. Van building should be a new trade. I am 51 but I would gladly work for you.

lol… I get scared and two drops come out… I laughed out loud on that one. Another great and informative video George :)

Thanks George! I learn a ton from your videos. Always really well done!

@HumbleRoad

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Awesome 👏 love it thank you so very much for sharing George! 👍❤️

True professional, I’m a fan of all your built… 👍

Know exactly what you’re on about with the drops Have the same thing when there’s a big mammalook thing about to get before it falls, etc Enjoying the mini-workshop tutorials

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

😀

This is a great learning series George . Only thing is you could say good by at the end !

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

If I were to close out each video with a good bye or what’s coming soon, viewers get the signal that the video is ending and they click away before the video actually ends. This hurts my ratings. Best to start a video and watch it entirely.

@007nadineL

2 жыл бұрын

Always watch to the end. And I will wait for commercial to end too.

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

@@007nadineL ❤️

You are so good love your channel

I just read an article from someone who cancelled their subscription to Amazon because they felt like Jeff Bezos wasted their money launching him into space. Now I have a second reason, George tells me not to buy cheap crap on Amazon. I must admit, its becoming a compelling argument. Oh yeah, and good work as always George, good work.

@280zone

2 жыл бұрын

You don't have to buy the cheapest one Amazon offers up, just scroll down a bit, you can find quality products you just have to look. They even sell Ancor shrink wrap.

Hello ! Thank you for the video ! We were wondering where did you get through to go at the end of the van the battery while following the floor. We don't find a hole to go through. Thank you very much for your help

Beautiful work sir...... Look....... 3 thumbs down. Why? Why indeed. Makes no sense at all. Low self esteem? Jealousy? Lack of intelligence? Or a little bit of all 3 !!!!

Ancor heatshrink is available on Amazon along with other high quality shrinkwrap. I agree use the marine grade with adhesive and use a heat gun not a torch, heat guns work MUCH better.

I’m loving these mini videos. I don’t like having fuses and breakers all over the van though. I really like them centralized. It takes a bit more planning, and ,Amy be less robust when adding wires after the fact, but as long as you have the ability to remove panels easily to route more wire I’m good.

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

The fuse should always be as close to the source as possible. Centralized may not be a safe plan.

@vita-girl4345

2 жыл бұрын

@@HumbleRoad yup, I get it. Safety vs asthetic. Sometimes tradeoffs are made.

10-4. Copy that. Great stuff humble road.🥰🥰🥰💙💚💛🧡❤💟

thanks for sharing this man, so helpful. I've been going over in my mind the first steps of what I would do if I ever got my van, and I'd imagine this is one of the first "electrical" things that could/should be ran right??? for instance, killmat, insulate, frame out floor, then this??

Why not use the upfitter connectors located behind the panel at the base of the passenger side B pillar? They are fused for 70amp and use 6AWG/16mm2 cables and connectors. Works great. I ran my cables from the pillar, behind the sliding door track under the floor, and then up thru cabinetry on passenger side to the Orion charger in the back. Didn’t have to change any config in the battery bay.

@robcain8355

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting question. Thoughts?

I would run both reds to a single big fuse in the battery well. Also plastic conduit the reds. I know its tight, i shaved off some under carpet foam o mine. As configured atm, if the reds under the rubber carpet short to chassis. There is no fusing. Make the 2 chair fuses quick blow and the large battery fuse slow blow, then you get easy fuse service access and whole wire protection.

@zuk4wd

2 жыл бұрын

As long as that fuse is correct for 1 of the 2 cables. You can’t add the values of each cable and double the fuse rating. That way when you damage one of the 2 cables the full current of the fuse has to go trought 1 cable. (My 2 cents)

What a timely video! I was just about to pull the trigger on buying as much as 20 feet of 6/2 AWG duplex round DC marine wire for my 6 circuit sub panel; then I saw the size of a single #6 wire in this video. Holy Moly! so I'm crunching numbers again. So George, what size wire did you use to run to your sub panel in the Sprinter? I know, I know, it depends. But what did you do, what was you plan? Mine? Thank you for inquiring...Depending on where I put the distribution panel, 10-15 feet away from where I'll connect in the garage (20 to 30 ft round trip), max 15 amp draw if all connected devices were powered at the same time (all 12v devices)

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

Go use the Blue Sea Circuit Wizard. It’s the bomb

Hi George, your video really help me a lot as I'm installing a DC o DC charger on my Fiat Ducato van with is similar to the Promaster. I found great the idea to install the fuse on the seat side and this is great for me as I have no room to install fuse on the positive batterie fuse holder. The problem is after intensives research I can't find the kind of fuse holder you used. Can you be kind enough to give me the link to find them. I live in Quebec and I imported that van from France by the way.

@HumbleRoad

Жыл бұрын

www.humbleroad.tv/amazon-affiliate

Great video! I'm installing my DC DC charger now. Does the Victron chager need an alternator control wire? I have the Renogy 60A and finding the best place to install it seems to be a roll of the dice. I'm going with a micro fuse tap and crossed fingers.

I love your videos. However i think you should get your fuses as close as it can to the + Battery terminal as you can. I know it’s tight. But you’ve gotta do it.

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you that closest is what you strive for.

"Don't buy cheap stuff on Amazon!" :-)

Thanks for all the great videos. I am learning quite a bit. A question regarding the two negative wires running from the negative bus bar up front in the battery compartment. Are those going back to the negative bus bar on your electrical module?

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

Those negative wires go directly to the input side of the DC DC chargers

@BapaGospelaires

2 жыл бұрын

@@HumbleRoad Can I just run the negative wire to the input side of the DC charger to any ground on the chassis? I'm wondering if I can save some wire & just ground the input negative right next to the DC charger in the back of the van.

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

@@BapaGospelaires multiple and random grounding points are not good for the integrity of the chassis grounding system and also can cause chassis corrosion

LOL "Two Drops come out!"

I love it... "... and two drops come out." you have that problem too? :)

Danke!

Great video, thanks. I noticed you used an isolated DC-DC charger. Would a non-isolated charger work just as well for charging Li ion batteries in a van? Thanks!

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

Isolation pertains to the chassis battery.

Amazing work as usual. Why not use marine breakers instead of fuses? They have the additional benefit of an indicator when tripped and no need to have spare fuses.

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

I use fuses coming off the battery and breakers after the device. I will do a video on all of that soon

@CreekRanger

2 жыл бұрын

@@HumbleRoad Thanks! Makes sense. Would be nice to have a little box with spares next to the fuses. Can never find the spare fuse when you need it 😉

Hey George Can you share the fuse size and brand please. Where is a good place to purchase the wire.

yay

Just two drops? You’re a younger man than me!

Another great vid (2 drops - LMAO!!) Can you share the reason behind why 2 DC to DC chargers? Is one not sufficient? Thanks again for the learning!

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

Each DC-DC charger pushes 30 amps. We have the alternator capacity so we will push 60 amps.

@RichardCrabbe403

2 жыл бұрын

@@HumbleRoad thanks George! It's going to be a great van, just like all of your other masterpieces!

@jimneumann6099

7 ай бұрын

I'm going to be using two Victron 12/24 units, each pulling 15amps. I was going to run one set of 6AWG about 10' to a + and a - busbar and split to the Victrons from there. So 30amp pull over 10' and a 40amp inline breaker. Sound reasonable?

Dont buy cheap cr@p! ☝🏼☝🏼BAM! 👊🏼 😄 - George, thanks for pointing out these little nuggets that i usually spend an entire day researching, (best product features and pricing). Aka, finding out the hard way. Wired up my fog lamps w/ the amazon cheap crap. now i know for next round. ✊🏼

I also have 2018 promaster 2500 159 it's included a B PILAR electrical for 70A, i connected a victron orion 12V-24V 15A and also planning to add another victron orion 12V-12V 30A leisure battery? Or I can use just the B pilar (70A) and use a bus bar to connect at 1 place for 2 victron

@HumbleRoad

Жыл бұрын

Busbar

@bernardgalimba8144

Жыл бұрын

@@HumbleRoad thank you very much

what size terminal lug do you use for connecting to the promaster battery?

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t just give you a size. Many variables to consider. Amps? Length? Stud size?

Ergonomic layout!

Do you use the Ancor brand for the 6 AWG wire?

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

I use only Ancor

Can you include a link to the fuses?

With 2 30 Amp Dc-Dc chargers you would pull 60 amps from chassis battery, which is (I assume a 100AH AGM) with a .2C rate. If this is correct, wouldn't they chassis battery discharge in 2-3 hours? 20 amps in - 60 amps out? Thanks

@HumbleRoad

Жыл бұрын

No. These chargers only operate when the engine is running The alternator takes care of all the charging. Not actually taking charge from the chassis battery.

@chatteyj

Жыл бұрын

@@HumbleRoad You didn't show hook up to the alternator, I'm trying to find a youtube vid here that shows this

@HumbleRoad

Жыл бұрын

@@chatteyj tie in at the chassis battery, not the alternator. I think I showed the wire going to the battery terminals in this video?

@Steveteras

6 ай бұрын

You show the wires but not the connection points. You could at least point it in the video so that people can see

Just install the MDB Series MIDI Power Distribution Fuse Holder. It's a 1 up to 200 amps. With 3 out Midi fuses.. And it's water tight...

@HumbleRoad

Жыл бұрын

My batteries, BMS and inverters will require very specific blow time responses. I have to use a very specific fuse holder and fuse.

@HumbleRoad

Жыл бұрын

The fuse holders in fuses. You are suggesting sound like they are from the car stereo world they are not adequate for high powered lithium batteries.

@WizzRacing

Жыл бұрын

@@HumbleRoad They are design for Marine applications. Totally water tight and dust proof..They take up to 200 amp line side to a 200 amp rated buss bar. Then branch off to 3 AMI\Midi fuses outlets... You should first look it up. As these things have nothing in common with Car Audio...Not even close..

@WizzRacing

Жыл бұрын

@@HumbleRoad The BMS will shut down regardless of the fuse type slow blow or instant..That is what BMS are designed too do.. Just go check the BMS 5 min overload test. They can run 200% higher then there rated for more then 5 mins. Why I don't rely on the BMS for my Protection. And I never heard of any Specific fuse holder required for anything. As the only type of fuse one should worry about is Slow Blow and Instant. Slow Blow is for devices that draw higher currents for an instant. Then fall off quick. You use an instant. It will blow at the rated amperage. And that brings me to one thing people should learn. Not all fuses are rated for what they sell you. The cheaper ones can be deadly. As they will never blow. The wire will melt before it ever does. So you have to buy Known quality fuses from a manufacturer brand you trust.

Amazon sells Ancor shrink tubing

stupid question but is making this connection to charge the house battery while driving?

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, correct. Not a stupid question.

You can buy ancor on Amazon too just an fyi

Just use clear shrink wrap instead of different colours.

I have a question. Why do you need 2 DC/DC Chargers?

@jeffsteinmetz7188

2 жыл бұрын

I have the same question. Sterling has a 60 amp DC to DC charger.

@THeChickmagnet0031

2 жыл бұрын

If you want to stay with the Victron line of products this is a good solution. Plus they are made to fun in parallel

@bldir

2 жыл бұрын

Good question and are they rated for parallel installation?

@THeChickmagnet0031

2 жыл бұрын

@@bldir yes the manual says so

wheres the video of your wiring this?

U need my hand to give a backup for holding the cameras to come to close up things.

What fuses and Amp rating are you using?

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

I ran 4AWG wire and used 40A fuses. The wire gauge was oversized to allow for pure clean unrestricted voltage. Just like Johnny Walker Blue sliding down your throat...

Don’t you need to install battery isolators between your start battery and your two auxiliaries?

@HumbleRoad

Жыл бұрын

The Victron Orions do the job

I actually have 3 x orions smart dc to dc charger 12-24V charger 15A and I noticed only one is mainly on, the other 2 comes on and then turns off. I have smart alternator and it comes on when needed and then off again. Maybe you could help me have all my 3 orions on at the same time. If I can’t fix this then I’ll have to sell 2 hmm

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

Wait! Victron is soon to release a patch where the DC-DC chargers and MPPT controllers synchronize and each give all they got. The MPPT can sync now with the temp and voltage sensor you stick on your battery. Hang tight I will do a video on it

@theoteam4641

2 жыл бұрын

@@HumbleRoad that’s awesome thank you for that. I upgraded my alternator from 150A on my iveco daily to 210A just to have about 4 Orions, but I went with three to start with first lol. I can’t wait to update it and try it. Thanks for that 😊

JaJa two drops

Why do you need two chargers?

@HumbleRoad

Жыл бұрын

Twice the charging capacity

@davidse4486

8 ай бұрын

@@HumbleRoad Okay now that I have all the stuff I see why, I am curious why don't you use #2 ... and run it back to your a bus bar, then do a short run to each of the chargers with #6 .. will save on wire and parts. also who do you get your solar panels from and which ones do you like? Thanks again your videos are helpful .

so why TWO DCtoDC chargers?

@HumbleRoad

2 жыл бұрын

60 amps total (30 amps each)

Two drops, 😂😂😂😂