But how is this done, reliably, with Windows? Asio4all is a solution, but not the greatest. Thanks, Mattias!

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed the core of Windows platform isnt very reliable for Pro audio routing. I abandoned Windows for these unreliable driver issues. ASIO4all is a unreliable work around while Aggregate device function is built into Mac OSX. OSX or Linux is the way IMO (when talking about synced internal audio routing) 😀

@DopamineOverload

3 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren Asio4all isn't terrible, but not great, either. I would disagree that OSX or Linux is the way. Especially with the myriad of problems new versions of OSX present, on hardware or software (to the point that many companies warn people NOT to upgrade or update). I'm on Windows 7. Longtime Reaper user. Pros have released great music just using Maschine, Ableton Live Lite, and dated versions of Cubase or Digital Performer. As long as a computer is properly configured and has powerful enough specs, it's the artistry and mixing that wins out. Not the computer.

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed you don't need the latest gear / computer / OS to make good music. I didnt mention making music, I was only speaking of audio routing. Use whatever works for you. But for me, personally, OSX worked out to be the best option. I still have Win Maschines around. Since gaming is very much behind on OSX. I did try to record a video episode wirh OBS on Windows and do the same kind of internal routing from DAW -> OBS as I have in OSX but it didnt work out well for me. Glad it works out for your personal usage. Im happy as long as everyone finds out what works for them. It's not about the gear, it's about the creative mind. Cheers Chris.

@DopamineOverload

3 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren I hear ya, Mattias. Thanks! Yeah, OBS can be a pain and I'm sure it's a bit easier with OSX. :)

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

@chriscauldermusic the actual OBS software has gotten more love on the Windows platform though as it has the specific OBS with stream Labs integrated. But I just saw there is a Mac version now... Haven't tried it yet so I am running native OBS on MAC. OSX has its problems too with recent new releases, so its best to wait at least 1 year before migrating to the latest OS each time they release a new major release, if one want all 3rd party plugins to work. Every OS has its flaws, but OSX works best for my work as a producer, composer, app dev and graphics designer. Thanks.

Ha ha ha.....I wish I knew this before I got a new interface with ADAT. On the other hand, now I have more ins & out that I will ever need! Great video!

@MattiasHolmgren

Ай бұрын

Thanks yeah this feature rocks

I'm doing this tomorrow. Thanks for taking the time to show us.

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Superb, hope it works our in your setup Kevin. ☀️

WOW thank you so much Mattias. Thiis was exactly what I wanted to know. And it works on my Mac, exactly as described. I use Scarlett, Behringer, and Soundflower interfaces for inputs and out puts. Absolutely amazing.

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Merging audio interfaces like this is one of the major advantages of using OSX. 🌞🦊

Great video man really easy to set up. I just recently bought a mixer becouse my audio interface only had two Inputs. Thanks to this I can record my Tr8 and elektron directly via USB and still have the two Inputs free. I can even edit the tracks afterwards as opposed to recoding everything directly from the mixer. Thank you so much. Now I can sell the mixer and get some other gear :) Keep it up

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome Alex. Yeah, I think aggregate device is an underrated feature of OSX. It leaves Windows miles behind.

thank you for your valuable instruction! I have a scarlet 2i2 and was trying to connect an audio module, (which already have an audio interface built in). The way I had my set-up I was able to use the module input on MainStage, and the outputs from the scarlet, but then I was unable to use both inputs from the scarlet! Now I know how, and it works. Thank you so much for putting light in our paths

@MattiasHolmgren

4 ай бұрын

You are so welcome, very happy to hear about your successful story! Rock on!

oh. my. god. The amount of time I've dumped into trying to find an audio interface that allows me to simultaneously use one stereo input and one mic input, when I already have one interface with 2i2, and don't want to dump +$300 into another mixer that has at least 3 inputs. *This, your video, is the solution!* I found a cheap Scarlett Solo online, so now I can just add that and aggregate the inputs. Can't tell you what a relief it is to come across this solution. Whew! ( I was even fooling around in the Audio/MIDI setup just yesterday for a different reason and it never dawned on me to setup an aggregate device. Doh.) Thank you so much!

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

Happy to hear about your successful addition of more i/o! 😄 thanks for the feedback! Glad I could inspire! 🎉🥁

came across this because im just now getting into outboard gear and have a few interfaces (as im sure we all do from our 'oh I shoulda bought this one instead' ha ha). it worked like a charm. I swear macOS has amazing hidden gems most people dont know. I been doing audio for 20 years and never knew about this. Thanks so much! Also looking into getting into analog summing. Eyeballing a Neve 5057 and a ferrofish, running through some outboard mastering gear. its a pretty expensive move but I demoed this setup and it just sounds amazing. the final print was definitely noticeable. the other option is to skip the analogue summing and go with stereo mastering to the outboard. for that was looking at the RME FSR. I heard the converters on that thing are outrageous. definitely the cheaper route. thanks again and have fun out there

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, some features in OSX are super useful and pretty straightforwars to setup and access. There are no shortcuts to great converters. 😉🥳

Wow. Im trying this with my 4i4 and X4 tonight! Thanks man!

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck. Its great to get more I/O. Make sure to set your main interface as the first one in the aggregated device chain. So its the master clock.

Thanks buddy for saving me hours of pain , much peace and music. Ric

Hello Mattias, Thank you very much for this super eye opening video.Couldn't find any better explanation than this. I was looking for a way to use the Antelope audio usb mic together with my audio interface and now I know it's possible. Hope I don't have too much latency but yeah. It's then I think possible to hook up another set of near fields if you have more outputs because of two audio interfaces. Wonderfull and you don't need another utility to be able to record your voice and capture video. I thought this was needed but I see it's not needed. Thanks a lot.You're amazing.

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's definitely a good idea to try out multiple audio interfaces if you have them around. Many audio interfaces work good together as aggregate devices, some not. But it sure pays off to give it a try! OSX rocks! Thanks Haluk!

I love this aspect of Mac.Thank you !

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes its awesome! ☕️🥳

awesome video, very clear explenation

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Super cool, thanks!

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it! Thanks!

Thank you man! You saved my session

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help! 🌞

Linux user here :D I use a M-Audio Fast Track that I bought at a thrift shop for $20. Love the content :D

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad u enjoy my content. 🌞

Fantastic, I was just about to start shopping for a larger interface and then thought maybe there is a way to hook up my two 2x2's I already have on hand... I am now running my SSL 2+ & MOTU M2 into my M1 Air and it couldn't have been easier, thanks Mattias!

@MattiasHolmgren

Ай бұрын

You are welcome. 🙏 happy to hear so many successful stories! 👌🥳

nice !!! thx for this video

Very helpful video thanks 👍

@MattiasHolmgren

8 ай бұрын

You are welcome Chris! 👌🎉

Very helpful. Thank you!

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

THANKS FOR THIS!! Just got my UAD and Antelope talking :D

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome Danny. Glad to hear my video was helpful for creating the Aggregate device in OSX! 🌞🦊

@woloo

3 жыл бұрын

Hello! I'm trying the same thing! Have an antelope as my main and also have an apollo twin which I want to use for its spdif and adat outs! Did you use the digital outs? Is this possible?

@dannychristie5628

3 жыл бұрын

@@woloo it's easier if you just use one or the other. it's all depends on what ur trying to do.

@manuellujan5625

3 жыл бұрын

@@woloo did you get both of them working together? I am trying to do the same 😅

@woloo

3 жыл бұрын

@@manuellujan5625 Not yet! But I've asked some people and they said it is possible! Apollo does not have a digital out though.

Mattias saves the day again!

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome Bionic- ;)

Thank you very much!!! that was very helpful. yestarday i got an inferface expert sleepers ES-8 for my modular rack and wanted to know how send CV to my abelton witout monitoring from the rack interface. i guess this video solved my problem man!!!

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

@TheNimasan

3 жыл бұрын

somehow i cant get the expert sleepers Es-8 runnin :-( i set my RME fireface as my main and added the ES-8 with 4 inputs and 8 outputs, bit i won't work. i really dont know why. maybe i should try the adat output.

Thank you so much

@MattiasHolmgren

11 ай бұрын

So welcome 🙏🥳💎

Boom Thank you!!

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Shabang, you are welcome! 🥳

Awesome stuff solved a confusing problem for me

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

Superb you are welcome Shane! Good to see ya! Hope all is well before christmas! 🎉🥁😄

@williamshaneblyth

Жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren yes all is good hope it's good where you are. I have a strange setup an accompliment keyboard with stereo audio USB in out and incredible speakers also a behringer uphoria um 4hd I have 2 other keyboards midi USB and bitwig as my daw running a bunch of nice vsts the accompliment boards has great sounds so it's is trying to route all the audio to the board with it's speakers plus a second set of studio monitors then I saw your video and went I forgot you could aggregate audio in osx. So big thank you 😊👍🏼

Superb! Thank you especially as I also use Bitwig!

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful Tobes!

@Tobes1100

2 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren Hi Matthias, I have a strange problem and I hope you can help. I'm running Bitwig 3.3.11 (plan expired last year) on High Sierra. My main audio interface is a UAD Apollo Twin Duo. I recently purchased a TR-6S and an MC-101, great little boxes. I have created an aggregate device with all three. Unfortunately what is happening is that (with the TR-6S as the master) Bitwig receives the audio from the grooveboxes inputs and there is an output signal on Bitwig's master out but no audio is being sent to the Apollo even when I add output busses with the meter showing a signal still nothing from the Apollo. If I select the Apollo as the sole output device then there is no input signal at all! This method (the split input/output devices) does work in Ableton but I don't want to work in Ableton anymore! I've heard that High Sierra does play up with aggregate devices and I would've updated my OSX but my mixer is Firewire but from Mojave up Firewire is not supported. Have you come across this before? Am I just going to have to bite the bullet and update OSX and get a new mixer? Be great if you can help or point me in the right direction, tschuss!

Thanks for the video :) Saved me from buying another microphone. Cuz now I can connect one XLR and one USB at the same time :)

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Thank you! I just bought an Expert Sleepers ES-9 and was wondering how I was going to get live audio into the eurorack system. Perfect!

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Enjoy dat ES. 🌞🦊🥳

@JahaJaho

2 ай бұрын

What other devices do you use with the ES-9? And most of all how well does it work with aggregate device? Extra latency?

Today we look at how you can boost your audio setup with additional audio interfaces to get more audio inputs and outputs to your Mac computer setup. www.morningdewmedia.com

@LifeOnEight

3 жыл бұрын

What happens when two interfaces being aggregated have MIDI in and out ports? Are they both usable or only the MIDI ports on the master audio interface?

OMG du kanske har sparat mig tusentals kronor i denna video! Ska hem och prova efter jobbet. Återkommer med resultat rapport.

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Kanon, lycka till!

Thanks

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome Ivan. Happy to hear you enjoy my aggregate device video!

Спасибо, Матиас!

@MattiasHolmgren

11 ай бұрын

You are welcome 🙏👌😄

Hmmmmm this going to have me looking for a second Zoom Livetrack L-8 for 16 in and 8 out. Thank you

Thank you very very very much you saved my money sir'.

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to help

Hi @mattias Great Review !! Really usefull insight, i wonder did you experience more latency if you do this? could you share? i wonder what is the downside compare to adat connection. Thank you!!

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

Hi Rumi, I do not experience any additional latency when using aggregate device setups. Adat connections sometimes have a problem with 44.1 vs 48khz. You need to set the correct master clock device etc. But it's no big deal, but with aggregate device you just "merge" the interfaces you have at hand. But as I mentioned, not all interfaces go well together for some reason. THanks! *Sorry for the delay* 🙏☕😄

THANKS, MATTIAS H.

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

U are welcome Gertz! 🙏💎🥁

Hello, do you suggest a 8GB or 16GB Mac pro if I want use an audio device? Do you think it makes any difference?

You can do this on windows with asio4all, sometimes you'll still need to sync with adat or spdif though. Just depends on the interfaces. Definitely more convenient on a mac.

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

Yeah on Mac its straightforward. Core Audio for the win. 😄🥁

The Video, Just what I was looking for 👍 . Hey Mattias, do you think this has a toll on the CPU? or the DAW?

@MattiasHolmgren

7 ай бұрын

It does not effect CPU performance as far as I know. Happy to hear u enjoy my video. 👌😄🎸🥁

@MarcoPolux

7 ай бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren it worked as one's would like to: perfect! And I was doubtful because I alerady have too many i/o (RME Fireface UFX III with 16 extra ADATs already and AES).... well, I added another RME, this is a Digiface USB with capabilities of 32 i/o via ADAT... already have it with 16 and it works superb, managing it agregated device in OSX and of course, TOTAL MIX, wich is the best Interface software there exist, by far. Thanks Mattias! ( I hope it revives this old video, now more than before because of the incredible improoved capabilites of the new Macs)

Hi there . so I use a mackie pro FX12 mixer and a Scarlett 18i20 . I want to use the third channel on the scarlett and channels one and two on the mackie. I cant get a signal from the scarlett can you help ?

Great tip! Now I have an objective reason to stay with Mac.

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

Yeah aggregate device is super useful. Another tip is to download blackhole (internal audio routing app) as an alternative to Loopback (which is paid)…if you need to route signals between apps…ObS / DAW etc. 👌😄☀️

Has Bitwig's Audio Settings layout changed? I'm using Bitwig 3.3.1 and I only get a cumbersome List style view of the Busses, not the efficient looking Matrix style view demonstrated here.

Great video, are you able to take 2 of the same audio interface (Ex. 2 Focusrite 2i2 units) and make this work on Mac OS? Thank you so much.

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jairo, I haven't tried two of the same interfaces. But all interfaces get their own unique adress when connected to the computer via USB / Thunderbolt etc. So I see no reason why a similar interface wouldn't work. I rarely bump into audio interfaces that doesn't work. I've only had problem with very old hardware. All my current audio interfaces work to merge. Aggregate Device and OSX audio handling in general is a big win compared to how windows handle devices & audio processing. Happy to inspire! Thanks for writing Jairo! 🌞🍨☕

Thank you for the video! Have you ever used Dante Virtual Soundcard as an input interface and an aggregate device (USB) as the output?

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

Hi Lisa, nope mever used Dante. I do use the ”Loopback” app for virtual audio routing on my M1 macbook pros and its awesome but costs $99 if I recall correctly.

is there a max number of inputs that an aggregate device can handle? i had cases that i need to record 2 midas m32 consoles. can i use this method?

Thanks! I have 2 questions - 1) does this use more CPU power to do the drift correction? 2) Does it add latency? I'd like to record 16+ channels for a live album, and I'd like latency to be low enough to run the output to the monitors and I'd like to add very simple EQ & compression to each track, and maybe verb. Do you think this would be stable enough?

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

No there is no more latency happening. But beware that not all audio interfaces play well together. You need to give it a test to see how it works out with your specific hardware. Simple EQ and compression, or a regular algo reverb will not introduce too much latency. Limiters, convolution reverbs and phase neutral eq with oversampling etc. will introduce latency so stay away from those if you want to keep latency low.

Nice! do you have some ableton tutorials? i'm switching from Logic to Ableton

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not much for Ableton. But its very similar to Bitwig except the Bitwig modulators which are awesome. Thanks.

Hey Mattias, I know this is an older video but a good one! I'm trying to figure out if I can use my external AKAI EIE Pro AND my internal RealTek with my DAWs on my Windows 11 PC. I am really more interested in howto configure that so I can hear the audio out via speakers connected to the internal soundcard. Can't really find a good answer, but I might be asking the wrong questions in my search :) Any input you might have would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

@MattiasHolmgren

7 ай бұрын

PC doesn’t handle multiple audio interfaces that well. One ASIO driver at a time, which means one audio interface.

Sir can we combine two audio interfaces using this to use more mic inputs also??

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can use their inputs simultaneously, that's the beauty of a merged aggregate device.

How does aggregating affect latency and is "drift" as good as using a dedicated clock signal between interface units? I have a Roland Octacapture and am thinking of adding another 8 channel interface yet am hesitant to do so because of possible latency/clock issues or complications that would be avoided by just buying a dedicated 16 channel AD/DA converter and adding more mic pres. In this way, I'd use the Octacapture for passing its preamp signals direct to the AD converter and adding more discrete mic preamps. Initially, I was going to add an inexpensive Behringer interface set up almost identical to the Roland and aggregate the two but now I'm thinking I'd be locked into this setup and perhaps could have spent a little more money for a system that is more flexible with combining discrete mic preamps with AD conversion.

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Dedicated clock at hardware level is probably always gonna be superior. This merging of audio interfaces as aggregate device is at software level but works pretty well. But I’ve not experienced any particular drift issues when running setups like UAD Apollo Twin X, Komplete Audio 6 with the Steinberg Ur 22. Though I did hear about people having issues with cheaper gear, like Behringer. I did however run into issues earlier in another (not aggregate device) setup running Arturia Audio Fuse 8 pre via ADAT into the UAD Apollo twin X at certain sample rates. So now I ended up getting a Antelope Audio Zen Tour Synergy core which is an awesome interface with enough I/O for my setup. Gonna try the Audio Fuse 8pre with this setup later.

Sir does we need adat or we can directly plug two different audio interfaces via usb cable ?

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

You don't need to do adat connections between the audio interfaces. That's the beauty of it. You just connect more audio interfaces to your Mac (via Usb, TB or whatever) and merge them in an aggregate device. Not every device work in this setup. BUT, the most I've tried have worked like a charm in such a aggregate device setup.

@audioinfinitymusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren thanks a lot sir for this info ✨😊

I did this with my Focusrite Clarett+ 8Pre and Octapre and brought my Zoom L20 Livetrak into the mix for a total of 32 ADAT inputs and the other virtual inputs that it brings. I brought the band into the studio, and had some problems with digital distortion. I'm wondering if there's a clock sync problem with the Zoom L20 and the Focusrite stuff? Is this what that "drift correction" is for?

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

It works like this: 1. set your most reliable clock source (ie main audio interface) as master clock device. 2. Activate drift correction for all other sources that does not do clock sync via hardware (ie your already syncing via adat audio interface settings. 3. Also make sure you run same sample rate on all devices in the chain. Try that and see what happens. Use two audio interfaces to begin with before trying to expand the setup. Debugging 101. Hope it works out for you. I also had some glitch / weird issues with the Antelope Audio / AudioFuse 8pre before making the correct settings. Look up which of the audio interfaces that has the best sync clock. Antelope Audio are known for their great clocks. More info to setup aggregate at apple help: support.apple.com/guide/audio-midi-setup/set-aggregate-device-settings-ams094c7edb4/mac

@BillRayDrums

Жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren Thanks so much Mattias!

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

Hope it helps! Its great when it works! 👌

Great video thank u for the video, but m facing a problem, I have a 2 channel interface and 2channel mixer I did how u showed in the video but for output m not able to monitor all four channel at a time is possible that I can hear all the channels ?

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Do you select the aggregate device in your DAW. What mixer is it? What DAw are you using? Can you specify output ports in your DAW? There are numerous things that can be out of place. Sometimes, some gear doesnt speak well with eachpther either. What audio interface is it? My bet if all other points are ok….is that its the mixers audio driver thats not playing nice. Make sure the major ”real” audio interface is the master (first device) in your aggregate device setup.

Hi Matthias, I have a dbx compressor and behringer multi effects units which I would like to hook up to use together with a focusrite 18i20 ....kinda confused how to get this working into bitwig... Could I possibly email you to explain this better maybe you could have a look ? Thanks so much

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Hi GAR, so you want to setup an external compressor and multi effect and use them as hardware effects with Bitwig Studio. For that you need to send signals out and in to your Focusrite 18i20. 1. In Bitwig dashboard/Settings/Audio - first setup all audio interface inputs and outputs (map the busses) as mentioned in my videos. Create the mono/stereo ins and outs. 2. Add the HW FX device (plugin) in Bitwig. 3. Map one of the outputs to the HW FX out. 4. Map one of the inputs to the HW FX ins. 5. Balance the mix to taste. 6. Save the HW FX device as a preset = drag the device to the rightmost "browser panel" and it will trigger a preset save. Let me know how that works. Maybe I can make a video to show this in detail later. Cheers, // Mattias 🌞

I've recently been using this sort of system and now trying to figure out how to apply this in a live setup sort of thing. However i've got a small latency even on the lowest buffer size. Its not much but its just enough to throw the band of the click track, using two behringer u-phoria interfaces and one avid eleven rack, all in pro tools as it is my main daw. But i also have logic on my machine that i have not tested out. Any suggestions to tackle the latency?

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Johan! First check if your current audio interace supports direct monitoring? Direct monitoring will route the incoming signal directly to the output for instant monitoring. Also, first remove any plugins you might be using in the DAW, and see what latency you get as the starting point. If you want to work with lowest possible latency I would recommend using a more professional audio interface than Behr...Try with Antelope Audio Zen Q or Zen GO Synergy Core. They use FPGAs to handle the Antelope effects in combo with regular CPU DSP and they have like the lowest latency I've ever worked with. Also don't use plugins that introduce huge latency...like limiters, linear EQs etc. Certain plugins are evil when it comes to latency. ;) Hope the info helps Johan!

Hi Mattias, thanks fo the video- what if you have multiple large audio interfaces 64 in/out and want to use them all at the same time and see each of the in/out's. Would aggregated devices work for those kinds of high channel counts, or just for smaller multiples like you have done?

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t tried with interfaces that has 64 i/o, but i see no reason why it shouldn’t. But the amount of i/o ports you can stream at the same time is of course always limited by your computer specs, no matter the way you manage to merge devices. Hope the info helps. ☀️🥁

@rickgolden6748

2 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren Hi Mattias, thanks for the info! When you say computer specs... What parts are you exactly talking about? If I were to build a custom computer, what. things would I need or choose to make it handle the i/o at higher counts?

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Faster cpu (always grab the latest gen) and faster mem… then also fast discs to handle the audio stream write / read. That said todays M2 / SSDs are extremely fast and handle high throughout, like 2-10GBps. It’s also dependant on the audio driver of your audio interface. What are you recording? Big orchestras? 😁☀️☕️

Im having a crazy buzzing sound when i have 2 interfaces aggrageted. Ive set all of them to the sample rate and reinstalled drivers. Still bo luck. Any thoughts?

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm sorry no clue. I never experienced any buzzing when connecting various audio devices for an aggregated setup at my place. Maybe it's earth hum. Try a ferrite core block or something on the usb cable from one of the audio interfaces. Check how you are powering the interfaces. Are they both powered via USB, or are one of them powered via a socket outlet (power adapter). Then you might have earthing issues between the devices.

New video on how to expand your audio interface with more I/O with ADAT! kzread.info/dash/bejne/p3egj9J9iZfdkaw.html

I I’ve done a very similar setup, and I’ve put my apogee quartet as the first aggregated device, in my daw /OBS everything works great. My only issue is that my regular usage (I.e. watch KZread) isn’t working.. any idea why?

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Elinathan. That's weird, did you check so you have the same sample rate setting on all interfaces? What additional interface are you using? You should always pick your main interface as the first device in the aggregate chain, so it's the master clock too.

Thanks for the great vid! I’m wondering if this works reliably, the ableton website says this can cause problems with popping etc.

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Terry, with the gear I use I haven't experienced issues on OSX Catalina. But yes, if you dont set your most reliable audio interface as master clock. Maybe try to set some drum Machine audio interface as master clock device (first device) it May cause trouble. I have also exclysively been working in 44.1 or 48khz and not higher sample rate when running Aggregate audio interface setups. 🌞

@TerryMaplePoco

3 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren Thanks for the info! I'm going to try using an Apogee Element and an SSL 2 together. I wonder which one would be a better master clock device. I'll try it out!

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Ive used the Apogee Duet 2 with great success. 🌞 Good luck Terry!

@TerryMaplePoco

3 жыл бұрын

Mattias Holmgren great to know! Thanks a bunch :)

Hey mate, great video! I'm also trying to record into OBS through iShowU, while at the same time output to an audio interface for my headphones. But it doesn't seem to output to all of the devices in the aggregate device for some reason. I can change which one it outputs to by moving the devices around in the Subdevices section of the Aggregate Device settings - the leftmost device receives the audio. I've tried a few different software audio devices, and have made sure they are all on the same Hz. Any ideas for what could be going on?

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Matthew. My setup: 1. Setup an aggregate device in OSX Audio / Midi Setup. 2. Always add your primary audio interface as the 1st audio device (so it is the master clock). 3. Add your secondary audio interfaces and then finally the iShowU device. Pay attention to the Input and Output numbers (especially for the iShowU device), so you know which stereo output to add inside Bitwig (or your other DAW of choice) for the iShowU. 4. In Bitwig, select the aggregated device as your output. 5. Add a second stereo output and set it to the same output number as iShowU. 6. On an output channel in the mixer make the same setup I show in my videos (I set output to the iShowU output) and add an audio receiver on that out channel to receive the audio from the master track. Done.

@matthewgardiner4175

3 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren Worked it out, thanks!

Hi Matthias, Great video-very helpful indeed! Have you encountered any clocking issues when using aggregate devices for multiple interfaces? I am hoping to use an aggregate device with my UA Apollo Twin Mk1 (Thunderbolt) and another interface SPL Marc One (USB). I have not purchased the Spl Marc one yet, so I have no way of knowing if it will work at this stage, so was wondering if you have used any UA devices in this way?I want to use the Apollo twin for pre amps & recording plugins (In) and use the Spl Marc one as the (out) for monitoring and critical listening. Do you think it should be ok based on your experience? Btw am using a Mac! Thanks

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ria, I didn't notice any clocking issues when running my setup of aggregated devices. Mostly I use the Digitakt alongside the Komplete Audio 6 or Duet 2 audio interfaces. I haven't had any UA devices to try with yet, but I'm sure it would work just fine. What samplerate are you planning to run 96khz? I mostly work in 48khz but have not had clocking issues. I'll make a video once I bump into some UA cards. Awesome, Mac is awesome for the aggregate setup. Quick and useful! Glad you enjoyed the video. I might do more on the same subject if there is enough interest! // Matt

@riasure

3 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren Thanks so much for your response. Am using 48kHz sample rate. But have been hearing mixed responses regarding it will work and so I have held off buying the Spl Marc one, until I feel more confident. Although, it looks like I might just have to purchase it and if it is not a success return it-although am trying to avoid that! Some say I might experience and run into clocking issues with Apollo Twin using an aggregate device, so I am not sure?! It would be great if you could do further videos on this topic, as there are very few recent ones available, and I for one would be very interested in watching:-)Thanks for your help thus far and it’s encouraging that you have had great success combining interfaces in this way! Best wishes

@sergisab

Жыл бұрын

@@riasure Hi! I having clocking issues with Apollo 16 + Behringer U-phoria. I'm using a Mac.

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

How are they setup, what sample rate are you running? 48khz? who is the master? How do you set the master / slave clock?

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I will make an update video. I now have an Apollo Twin X which I can show in aggregate setup with some other interface. My personal setup atm is using ADAT I/O to hook up an Audio Fuse 8pre to my Zen Tour (main interface) 👌🥁🎉

Mattias, what kind of camera do you use for KZread? May I ask? Great quality, eh?

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I'm using a Sony a6400 + Sony a6600 both with Sigma 16mm f1.4 lenses. On the Sony a6600 I got a Atomos Ninja V recording .h265 directly to a SSD for better / quicker access to files when I want to produce videos in reasonable amount of time. You can check my gear list (with links) here: www.morningdewmedia.com/resources-for-music-production-and-video/ I sometimes also use my old Canon EOS750D with a 24mm f2.4 lens which has a more "raw" kind of image which I like for some music video kinda vibe when I perform on instruments (guitar, piano etc).

@Green_Ghost_Media

2 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren Amazing! Thanks for the quick reply. So good!

Hej! I use logic pro... planning to buy apogee ensemble thunderbolt + black lion revolution 2x2, use the black lion clock as master. I'm worried that aggregating will be aggravating (!) hoping this will work for 10 a/d ins!! Thanks 👍 Jon

@MattiasHolmgren

16 күн бұрын

Hi Jon, some ”aggregate device” combos work better than others. I currently run Antelope Zen Tour as a master with an Arturia 8pre as ADAT slave. No agg device setup needed in that case, only ADAT optical to give an extra 8 ins and 8outs.

Extraordinary N so much misunderstanding that he can share 🎉😢😂

@MattiasHolmgren

11 ай бұрын

Eh… ok? 😂

Hello, thanks for doing this vid. I recently had a friend over to record her singing and I realized, how unprepared I was. I was trying to set her up in my makeshift vocal booth, but I couldnt do any real sound checking because I only had one set of headphones set up. I really needed to hear her levels, and hear the music, and the mix , but I realized im a dumbass. lol. I have an imac, using logic pro x. I use the Bose t4s interface on my mac. Now if im using that device to monitor sounds, and vocals in the DAW. I was thinking, I could use a second interface in the vocal booth. Would having my focusrite 2i2 in the vocal booth work for the headphone adjustments? No need for the headphone amp? Im going to combine the 2 interfaces by setting up an aggregate device. Now I have 4 inputs, and 6 outs and I can use them all. Think this will work?

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

SOme audio interfaces work better together than others. But if you have similar interfaces it should work fine. I suggest borrowing an extra audio interface from a friend and trying this setup out first... see if it works like you plan. Before buying a new interface. Not all audio interfaces work good together for some reason. And make sure you have your best audio interface as the primary (master clock). Another solution is to hook up additional audio interfaces via ADAT optical TOS-link cable. But that requires your audio interfaces to have ADAT toslink ports.

Is there a way to set up a virtual channel between the output of one interface & into the input of another w/o cables (for example, one device on other side of room via thunderbolt, and attempting to minimize cabling).

@MattiasHolmgren

11 ай бұрын

What ia your intention of doing such routing? Aggregate device setup will give you access to all the I/O of both interfaces. You can always use something like Loopback (MAC OSX) or BlackHole… with Loopback you can route stuff like creazy.

@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios

11 ай бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren Thank ou for asking. An example would be when I route into a summing mixer from my Orion 32+ (which has only has DB25 for analog), and I need to bring the returns back in with an interface which accepts XLR or TRS.... Also.. As a sidenote: .Please add information about "loopback" ask well. Is there a "loopback" feature within "Aggregate Devices" for OSX?

Is there a limit to how many audio interfaces you can use at the same time?

@MattiasHolmgren

8 ай бұрын

I haven’t tried to merge more than two. It should be possible to have more audio interfaces slaved.

I have this one sort of practical issue. I create aggregate device between Motu and K-mix. All inputs are working in the DAW, but outside of the DAW i can play my synth connected only to MOTU audio interface and can not hear synth connected to K-Mix unless I fire up DAW and load template with all connections. Is there any easy method that i can just start my Mac and hear/play all my synth without a DAW? Also to mention, audio output is set to aggregated device Motu&K-Mix.

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is that your OS (Mac OSX) only uses a dual stereo output. If you want to do routings like you mention you could use something like the app "Loopback" which is a very versatile app for routing audio sources. What you would do is route all the inputs you need to the stereo output of your audio interface. Now all those audio sources would be audible. In the DAW you can make all your specific routings of course, but in OS only a stereo output is used by default. With Loopback you can route however you like. ;)

@smiljanicn

2 жыл бұрын

​@@MattiasHolmgren Thank you so much Mattias

Do you use a usb hub to connect the interfaces?

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, sometimes I use USB Hubs to connect the audio interfaces.

Whaaaaat? Didn’t know this was a thing.

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

oh yes, it is!

@ElCapitanGames

2 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren so how does monitoring work out? When not monitoring in logic?

Hi there! Also works with garage band?

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Yes aggregate device is set at OS level so it works as an audio device across OSX all apps.

2 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren Thank so much for the answer!

Hello i have a tr8s and I'm trying to aggregate a Focusrite solo but when I try to setup the I/O on logic I got a message saying the drivers are not recognised, the 2 audio interface are working fine separately. thanks in advance

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, sorry to hear about your problem. Are you selecting the aggregated device as audio interface in Logic Pro? Select the aggregate device as your Input and Output device. Is it at that point you get that error / warning message? Or when does this message appear? CHeers // Matt

@pumatech2394

3 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren hey first of all thanks for you time and Yes im having that message as soon i select the aggregate interfaces as i/o on logic

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

In OSX audio setup where you define your Aggregate audio interface make sure to first select (activate) the Focusrite so that it acts as the master clock device. The TR8s should be a second (slave) device. Delete the old agg-device and Make a brand new one where you First select the Focusrite... Then the slave audio interfaces. You need your major audio interface to act as a master clock device. Try that.

@pumatech2394

3 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren so I tried but nothing, weird thing is when I aggregate my Focusrite with my umc1820 it works...only when I try to add the tr8s does not work

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

@@pumatech2394 obviously, the tr8s is not as good "plug and play" usb-class compliant audio interface as those dedicated audio interfaces. Sorry to hear the Roland won't work. The Digitakt works good to use as an aggregated device. As well as all my other audio interfaces. They all merge smoothly, so I haven't really bumped into the issues you are experiencing with the TR8s. Hope you are able to work with some other additional interfaces instead of the Roland. Just exclude that one from the aggregated device list. And just send it's audio to another audio interface...or maybe audio over USB. ;)

Would multiple interfaces cause more latency when monitoring?

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

No Ismael. It does not introduce more latency in my experience.

Thank You! please do a review at Bitwig 3.3 Beta

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, thanks yes I Will do a video on it as soon as I get it. 😋🌞

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Oh and good to see you! Hope all is well!!

@user-dv2vv1ch7u

3 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren I want to share with you the news that I recently purchased Modular and began to master it. So far, the simplest patches are obtained. I am very pleased with the sound quality. New modules have recently appeared there. Some Modular parameters cannot be controlled by CV, and then I use Bitwig modulators: and this union is amazing

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

What modular stuff did you buy? Pleased to hear you are having a great time exploring the sounds! 🌞😜

@user-dv2vv1ch7u

3 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren Softube Modular)

hello Sir thanks for the beautiful video i make everything but there is no sound in speaker output any advice

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

What kind of audio interfaces are you trying to merge as an aggregated device?

@MohammadSalah1979

Жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren steinberg ur44c and komplet 6

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

Did you try flipping who is the master (1st) audio interface in the aggregated chain. The master is the clock master device.

@MohammadSalah1979

Жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren actually I make it quick and too mach person on my head I didn’t check it step by step. Thanks for your advice and reply 😘

Sorry but where do i find this Audio Midi app? everything else is clear but Audio Midi setup App i can't find. Please help!

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

In Mac OSX. Open the launchpad and look for the folder "Others" in there you should find the app "Audio Midi Setup". You can also just open Launchpad and write "Audio" and the app will pop up. Did you find out now?

@harisbabajic2158

3 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren thank you Mat, your tutorial was very helpful I managed all and it works great thank you again bye.

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, good to hear you got it rolling! 🥳🌞🦊

My only complaint about recording in Linux is JACK audio. When JACK is enabled, all other inputs and outputs are disabled. Example: If i open Firefox, there is no audio. JACK puts the DAW in real time/full duplex mode. That's not a bad thing but, if you want to jump off your DAW, you have to shut down JACK.

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds annoying indeed with JACK. I use iShowU for internal routing in OSX. No hiccups runs flawless. Thanks.

Hi, can I build a 5.1 setup by using 3 audio interfaces ? Is it possible?

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, Ive never tried doing 5.1 with multiple audio interfaces merges like this, aggregated device /Multiout device. But it should work since you can access all individual in/outs. 🌞

@prongscool

3 жыл бұрын

Ohh, thank you. I should give it a try. Will comment here if it works.

Hi Matt - I keep getting popping when I set up my aggregate device. Im using a UR22 and Digitakt - tried different ports, cables and set everything to the same sample rate, no luck! Would love some help or alternative routing suggestions - nothing seems to work!

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Make sure your UR22 is the master (first) device, and the Digitakt is the second (slave) device. Probably not a cable issue, but rather software related. Did that help? What kind of popping is it, when does it occur?

@MaxnniProg

2 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren Hi Matt, Tried this and no luck unfortunately. Its like all my output audio becomes low fidelity and has a crackling sound on it. This occurs whenever I use more than one audio device in an aggregate device (irrespective of whether they are on the same sample rate - for instance also occurs between my digitakt & digitone). This all occurs before even opening any DAW.

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Which OSX version? Which revision of the Ur22 are you using? Latest firmware updated on the Digitakt?

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Oh I see you write both Digitakt AND digitone…. Exactly what devices are connected to the MAC and what are in your aggregated setup?

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

For troubleshooting, connect one audio interface at a time and see when failure occurs. Troubleshooting 101.

Opa meu amigo. Noa noite será que dá pra fazer isso aí com 2 interfaces M-audio fast track ultra. Por ser o mesmo drive

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Kefasa?

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Yes almost any kind of dual audio interface setup work ad aggregate device.

I've tried different aggregate devices for my setup and now I am left with a list of unused aggregate devices which I need to delete. How do I delete the created aggregate devices?

@MattiasHolmgren

Жыл бұрын

Hi, just select the aggregated device in the list, and press the minus - sign at the bottom left corner of the window. You have the + then the minus....and pooof the agg-device will be gone. ;)

@templeofleila

Жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren oh my god.. I turn 50 this year. I started out on a Mac SE 30. I had rebirth in the 90s and reason with a upgrade to 1.5! Am I losing my mind in this dream we call reality? Can I not keep up with the kids in an industry I helped build?.. shoo.. It was that simple?. I can't believe myself. Thank you so much Mattias!

I need to upgrade my OS, which will make my Profire 2626s legacy products. Now I just need to find out if ADAT will still work

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, congrats Robert what OS are u upgrading to?

@robertkent4929

2 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren hahaha... Mojave. Literally the oldest I can and still have the software I ned run

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, good luck! 👍🍀

Can you link more than 3? What's the max?

@wilpertz

2 жыл бұрын

I would like to know the same thing. I would like to create individual channels for as many Bluetooth speakers as possible. Can find an answer to maximum number of devices per aggregate anywhere.

How stable is OSX and/or Bitwig with an aggregated audio device?

@isaac.anthony

3 жыл бұрын

Why not just leave the digitakt out, and use the VST interface in DAW?

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

To answer your question Isaac, I am using the Aggregate device as the "audio interface" in Bitwig/Logic/Studio One in all my videos since the beginning of my KZread. A very long time anyways and it has worked fine for me. 😜🌞

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

I was just showing its possible to use a bit alternative gear. I wanted you to be inspired to find stuff in your Studio you normally wouldn't use as audio interface in your Daily setup. Even the Zoom H4N / H6 is an audio interface. And a lot of gear have that option these days. Digitakt works best and with more deep options in Overbridge mode over USB. It can then stream all 8 Channels audio AND The stereo inputs of the Digi. 😀🌞

@isaac.anthony

3 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren appreciated! I will now attempt this on my mac with TR8S and MC707, wish me luck!

@isaac.anthony

3 жыл бұрын

but I will leave out the A4 and hope overbridge doesn't have a problem with our new arrangement...

When I do this, It works fine for awhile then later I get distorted audio..why ?

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

It depends on what audio interfaces you try to ”merge”, settings, which card is ”master clock”, also USB interface (what ports (2.0,3.0… a hub etc) you are connecting to) all these factors matter. I have had great success with many setups though. Atm I am running Apollo Twin X + Komplete Audio 6 mk2, works fine without issues.

🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

🎹☀️☕️

I could do the same in Logic pro X

@MattiasHolmgren

11 ай бұрын

you can? ;) Merging audio interfaces as aggregated devices is made in the AUDIO MIDI SETUP page in OSX.

Does this work in m1 mac?

@MattiasHolmgren

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, same procedure.

@redcomn

2 жыл бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren good to know, now i only need to buy used interface for recording acoustic drum

YOU DID NOT ADDRESS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. DEVICE DRIVERS. I have an older M-AUDIO FAST TRACK ULTRA, and there are no updated drivers for it for OS 10.15.6 that I could find. Thus... I'm dead in the water. So how is it that you can get older MIDI interfaces to work on a Mac on current OS operating systems? If you tell me how I can make this happen, your amazing!

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

On a Mac I have never needed to install specific audio drivers for any of my interfaces for several years. Most audio interfaces are USB class compliant and that means they will work out of the box with OSX. You just connect it via usb and the OS "understands" it is an audio interface and shows up in the audio/midi devices. So you can just Jump into your DAW and use the audio interface I/Os. I dont know about the MAudio Fast Track Ultra though so check with some one who owns that specific interface. Or just hook it up to a friends Mac with a more recent OSX installed. 🌞🎅

@cedarmountain3188

3 жыл бұрын

Mattias Holmgren - I had a hunch there might be a major change in the industry with newer interfaces moving over to plug-in play technology. Does this mean that virtually all audio midi interfaces are now compatible with Mac today? Thank you for the absolute amazing quick response! You’re awesome Matt!!

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to help out. Well not all interfaces will work with all OSX versions. Some (older) may need firmware upgrade etc. But I dont think manufacturers continue to support really old interfaces. Lets put it this way, my old Steinberg UR 22 mk2 still work on the brand new MacBook Pro with Apple M1 and arm64 technology. Which is awesome... Without any need for firmware upgrade. 🌞 The beauty of class compliant (yes, plug n play). But I cant speak for all audio interfaces and your unit. I do have M_audio gear, but not the MAudio interfaces. 🌞🎅

@cedarmountain3188

3 жыл бұрын

Mattias Holmgren - if I could squeeze out one more answer from you please? What interface would you recommend for iOS 10 and above? I only need to audio ins, and one MIDI in. Note: I want something with as little latency as possible. Normally I would just buy high end gear with eight+ audio inputs, but money is extremely tight right now. I a composer writer for epic soundtrack style music. I decided to i’ll upgrade my operating system after all these years. Did not know it was gonna be a fatal mistake for my DAW. Now I am in dire straits trying to meet a deadline before the end of the year. If you do not feel comfortable recommending a given product or products that might be suitable for me, I will completely absolutely understand.

@MattiasHolmgren

3 жыл бұрын

@@cedarmountain3188 for iOS (iPad / iPhone) I have been using the Steinberg UR 22mk2 (€130) to record my voice / piano etc.) It has audio and midi. It does not have the best AD/DA converts but they certainly is enough quality. I have also been using an Apogee Duet 2 (for iPad/Mac/PC) but it's in a totally different price-range.€630. Right now I am using a Komplete Audio 6 which is think is a nice decent interface with decent converters and good I/O. Steinberg released a more recent model of the UR called Steinberg UR22C which also works with mac/pc/iOS (ipad /iphone) and it has better S/N ratio so I do recommend that one for you. It's at good price approx €160. If you do decide to grab one - use my amazon affiliate link - amzn.to/3hezKzk - and you will also support my KZread channel work! UR22C work with (macOS Sierra, macOS High Sierra, macOS Mojave, macOS Catalina...probably also the more recent ones as I said my UR22mk2 does. ) Thanks!

Useful but incomplete. I'm on Sonoma and BW5.1. First, if you don't make certain all devices are set to the same sample rate the audio device in Bitwig will just crash over and over. And so far for me only the aggregate input works. Using aggregate for output doesn't work at all as expected. Most of the output channels fail to appear as options. Overall this been a horribly frustrating process. And all I have is two devices. A Motu interface and an Analog Rytm. Really doesn't make want to hurry up and buy Bitwig.

@MattiasHolmgren

8 ай бұрын

Did you try other DAW with your specific setup? Did that work better? As I mentioned, not all devices work good in an aggregated setup. 🤷‍♂️

@mntbighker

8 ай бұрын

@@MattiasHolmgren Reaper works a bit better but is harder to use. Bitwig has since mysteriously just started working better. #shrug