Hi Mark, I live in Australia and 60 years ago when I was a scout I learned you point the 12 o'clock position on the dial at the sun and north is half way between the 12 o'clock position and the hour hand's position. This is the correct way to find north using a watch in the southern hemisphere, not as you have explained it as replacing south with north using the northern hemisphere method for finding south. Also instead of continually making adjustments pick a landmark as far off in the distance, in the direction you wish to travel and walk toward it, you can then take another reading when you reach that landmark.

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, thank you. I had made an edit in the original video description a while back.

@roberttub-tarling1080

7 жыл бұрын

Sorry to rake over old coals, Mark, I didn't expand the description.

@NIN8914

6 жыл бұрын

it'd be better to have annotations that u corrected the southern hemisphere reading in the video rather than description :) BTW, new to ur channel. Luv the info and details. Thanks!

@abilashkarki1291

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Robert, I was just wondering, are these two watches a navigator watch? Just a curiosity. I haven’t find a clear answer regarding navigator, infact just wondering why we call navigator watch and what feature makes watch navigator?

@purefectlife

Жыл бұрын

Can't we just see the sun? I mean id it's morning then sun direction is east when afternoon sun is at west. Simple as that.

I will never understand why anyone would dislike a simple educational and possible life saving video??? Thanks

@samyjohansson858

3 жыл бұрын

People with no life und no education, unfortunately

@pedromsricarte

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps because 5 minutes in he still didn’t explain?

@astatalol

Жыл бұрын

Yeah a 2 minute video just full of fillers isn't great

@larryg5417

Жыл бұрын

Because it doesn’t take 5 minutes to get to the point.

@masdojo

6 ай бұрын

I agree. People would rather have a quick, dumbed down version, instead of actually taking time to learn something.

A friend of mine got out of the Navy a couple years ago. He was a navigator. He told me that they still also practice navigating by the stars every night, even though they also have the most advanced electrical navigation instruments on board that money can buy.

@donovanleemurphy9349

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense. Using the advanced equipment is probably more accurate, but if you always rely on it, you’ll be in trouble if it fails. Best to develop star navigation skills as a backup.

If you only have a digital watch, you can still do the "boyscout trick" by drawing the time on the ground (as an analog clock), lined up properly.

Also works with a GMT watch, if the GMT hand is on local time when you point the hour hand at the sun the GMT hand will point north.

If you have a divers you can use 15, 30, 45 and your pointer as compass points. ^ = N 15= E 30= S 45= W

@theWZZA

4 ай бұрын

Good thinking. Now, if we can only get rid of DST...

@garyweber8201

Ай бұрын

@@theWZZA Move to Arizona. ;)

Just got my Alpinist from you last week, so I didn't need to watch this video til then. This is really handy to know. I've known of hunters to not believe their compasses and end up getting lost in the forest. This is a great way to verify a company is working too. Hey, Marc, just ignore the comments about the waste of time with your "fluff" - your information is all interesting and useful. I enjoy all your videos!

It's not just ensuring the time isn't set to DST, it's ensuring you're using local solar time as accurately as possible - and knowing how far off local civil time is from local solar time wherever you are. Some civil jurisdictions have deliberately put themselves nearly an hour ahead on standard time, putting themselves nearly two hours ahead on DST -- all so the wealthy die hard golfers can play golf at 11PM. I'm glad you corrected the Southern Hemisphere. If you imagine the solar motion at (local) 6AM, Noon, and 6PM, and how watch orientation can indicate direction, you can ensure you get it right. All that said, I used man-made and natural terrain features, combined with general solar position relative to AM/PM to properly orient a map, and determine more accurate directions much, much faster.

A great lesson for me, maybe I will never had to use compass on my watch but its allways good to learn new things, thanks!

I did learn this in Boy Scouts 50 years ago. Thanks for reminding me Marc!

Hr @ Sun, 1/2 way to 12=South. Nov-March or -1Hr. I etched this on the back of my watch so I'll never forget.

This is very useful. Thanks! My question is, what is the midpoint between hour hand when it’s 6 o’clock ? Should I set south to 3 or 9?

Excellent video. I used this technique last weekend in the woods because I was too lazy to get my Silva system compass out of my pack (which would have required me unshouldering and reshouldering 20 kilos. And the cheap compass/thermometer attached to my pack shoulder strap isn't that accurate. If you don't have a bezel you can do it mentally. If you have a dive bezel you can use that, just decide what is what, for example you can point the arrow to the south position and just remember that 30 would be north, 15 west, 45 east. Thanks to the Long Island Watch man for reminding me about Daylight Savings Time, now I know why I was a few degrees off (but accurate enough to position a map and figure out where to go). Google maps isn't so great when in the wild, a watch or compass and a paper map are much better. With the watch the advantage is you do not need to know what your local declention value is (deviation of magnetic from geographic north). My 40 gram Luminox Colormark is enough!

Great explanation. 36 years and I never learned that trick until now.

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Knowing is half the battle!

@McHale72

7 жыл бұрын

Then I had to sit for 6 minutes of drivel before he finally got to the info... which felt like 36 years.

@beschuitfluiter

6 жыл бұрын

Search how to make a shadow compass with sticks, no need for a watch that way

@FaisalKhan-xy1dv

6 жыл бұрын

Brad Taylor I beat you by 4 years. I am 40!

@HouseholdDog

6 жыл бұрын

Learned it in scouts.

Thank you so much, I have a Seiko Kinetic GMT but had no idea why the compass points were on the bezel. Aside from an actual diver using their bezel for dive times this may be the most useful function on a bezel. Tachymeter scale wont get you out of a jam. I have gained a new appreciation for my watch, thanks.

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Haha, great!

Great tutorial, and that's a really neat trick that I didn't know about. One more thing I love about watches.

So if the time is 18:20 and you point the hour hand at the sun. Do you position the S on the compass between 12 noon and 1820 or 12 midnight and 1820?

🤯Mind blown. Thanks for this. Now I'll look smart if someone ever asks me about my alpinist instead of an idiot. I love your content. I just haven't found an Islander I love YET. Keep it up.

Hi Mark. I am from Canada, now living the the Philippines. All my life I have done a lot of hunting and fishing and have used my watch as a rough compass 1000s of times. Canada being so far North, and during mid summer, has long daylight hours where it gets daylight before 6am and well after 6pm. During those hours when using a watch as a compass the 12 o'clock position flips from pointing South to pointing North. That is important to know or one can really get lost and confused. Of course on a clear night after dark in the Northern hemisphere, the North Star (Polaris) is easy to find from the Big Dipper (Google it), then vertically down from Polaris to the horizon is exactly North.

Nice video Sir, really informative and though this knowledge was always available in public domain I never bothered to know it untill I brought timex expedition mf13 and decided to know why manufacturer give bezel compass. I really appreciate the video.

Awesome! Just got a Seiko with a compass bezel and I was wondering how it worked. Very, very cool. Thank you!

Another well presented and informative video. This is a great trick for people to know and one I never learned until I purchased a SARG005. I always thought the internal compass added an extra level of cool to the watch compared to a standard bezel version.

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Brilliant! Very informative Mark. Thanks you.

One more reason to wear a cool mechanical watch. Great stuffs and please keep them coming. Thanks!

I enjoy your reviews and your watch and learns. I think, however, on the compass watch and learn you omitted an important point - which direction to go when you mark the halfway point between the hour hand and 12 o'clock? If before noon, you move clockwise from the hour hand. If afternoon, you move counterclockwise. An important detail.

@johnspitta6725

3 жыл бұрын

Just trying to practice that one. So, Could I also say... whichever is the shortest path from the hour hand to noon... take that one. That midpoint is south?

Thank you for your information sir. Can we can tell time using not working watch and a compass , By following this principle in vice versa ?

I just bought the black leather strapped Prospex Land and now I know how to use that internal compass bezel. I didn't learn that from my scoutmaster. Either I was absent or he could be dumb. Thank You!

I used mine for night land navigation. You use the watch bevel to set your direction after shooting an azimuth. Since the watch has a low-light signature it is easy to read. And helps keep you going in the right direction.

Hey thanks for this video. If I live in new Hampshire that means I have to turn the watch back an hour?

recently got an srp747. good to know. one question, what if you were in the tropics , in between cancer and capricorn or exactlu along the equator, what do you do then? with the bezel i mean. using the path of the sun, east and west can be found, 90 or 180 degrees perpendicular would be north and south. but can you use the bezel in this situation?

Awesome video ! Thanks so much, that was really helpful

Thanks Marc. I was going to (eventually) look for a video to explain this! Now I can find my way if the lights ever go out!

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Haha, great!

Just found your channel. Appreciate the boy scout lesson. Very educational and thorough.

thanks for the video mark.......learned a new thing today logo on the gloves is a nice touch

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Great, thank you.

Great and informative video, thanks!

I love your videos. Good work

Thank you Mark! I wanted to learn that trick 👍🏻

Thanks Marc, another informative video. Always look forward to them. Have you done one on GMT watches ?

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, there is a watch and learn on GMT / dual time watches; check it out!

I used that trick about 20 years ago to figure out which way was home. Was way out of town and the road signs were not clear and I didn’t know if I was going south or north. So I used my seiko dive watch and did that little trick and figured out pretty quickly that I was headed north so I took the next exit and got going south. Also use it frequently when hiking for general direction. If it’s critical then the GPS comes out. But I didn’t have that 20 years ago. So once it saved my ass from going several miles out of the way. Great video as always Marc. Also quick question do you have a link for the seiko flight master instruction book. I bought it used and didn’t come with any paperwork. The bezel was scratched pretty good so just got done popping a new one on with my press.

Will try this tomorrow. That was awesome...

hey Mark, how about if you live at the equator? do you follow the northen hemisphire one or southern one, or maybe is there any additional "rule" to be followed? thanks!

Marc, you gave new meaning for my compass bezel watches! :-D

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Awesome, enjoy it!

Awesome video! I learn something new everytime I watch your videos...Thank Marc, Happy New Year! ....Ed L.

@islandwatch

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ed, same to you.

Really like new gloves. As always, great video.

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Hi Mark, would like to ask if I’m located in the equator. How do I go about using the bezel? Thanks!

Can i change the strap on seiko srpa71k1? I like the model but i dont want the stainless strap..

Thanks for the perfect explanation! 👍

Very cool. Do they still make that internal bezel watch? I have the other.

Fantastic explanation, very thorough!👏

Seiko SRP669? It's looks really good! Especially the hands!

Great video - thank you!!!

I'm a sucker for internal rotating bezels... SO nice and smooth. I wish you guys carried Hamilton, they make a pilot watch with a nice internal bezel.

Thanks a ton. Cool little trick

Nice information, thank you.

Excellent ! I've known about this for years, and even though I've Googled it.... This is by far the most understandable bit of tuition. .... Many thanks....J

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Just got the Seiko SARB017 and it seemed silly not to at least know how to make use of the rotating compass bezel feature. Thanks for explaining it in terms even I can understand. Thanks too for pointing out the need to account for daylight savings time!

@tonib5899

Жыл бұрын

Congrats on your new shark atlas., the albino face is reckoned to be a lot rare. Even amazon are retailing with a 379 price tag, thanks for letting me know I can get a glass back. Cool horology vid.

Just emailed you about the Seiko sarb 017..Great feature for someone who likes walking in the woods. This was a new one on me, Thanks.

@islandwatch

6 жыл бұрын

Hopefully you won't get lost now!

Another very handy, informative video! Why do I always start watching your videos at bedtime and end up going to bed really late....lol! FYI it is 3:26 AM as I'm typing this...better go crash. Keep up the good work!

Kudos for Mark on these videos, great place to buy my watches from too.

@islandwatch

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for checking it out.

Hi Mark, a belated thank you for doing this video. It makes me want to buy the new Alpinist GMT watch.

nice gloves man! keep up the good work!

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@joysimathbarry1724

7 жыл бұрын

Long Island Watch nice video Marc! I live in Singapore and we are right at the equator. So what I should place in between my hour hand and 12 o'clock marker? 😀

Thanks for the video. I would have wrongly "doubled" the hour rather than correctly "half" toward 12 as you've demonstrated. I'm happy to be corrected, and more fun not to be lost! Thanks.

Today I learned a new thing :) Thank you.

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Great!

Wow! That’s such info to know!

Great that someone is doing these kinds of videos.

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking them out.

Yet another informative video. Thanks

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

thanks!

Best example I’ve ever seen. Great job 👏

very handy .. I learned something new today .. 🙂🙂

This was very interesting...thanks!!

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thank you very much, I never knew this trick!

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Cool trick.

Good refresher for me. I forgot about setting south between the hour hand and 12. I thought you set south to the hour hand. And I never learned about adjusting for daylight savings.

I had watched this video 1/2 year ago. Good refresher course. Young watchmaker Masahiro Kikuno design a wristwatch that displays Japanese temporal time. As days lengthen and shorten through the seasons events like sunrise, noon and sunset will occur at their assigned temporal time. That would throw an interesting complication into "boy scout" rule. What do you think?

Instructions not clear, I burnt my eyes from looking at the sun

@a48717

3 жыл бұрын

yeah it cost around 50-200 eye cells depending on where you are.

Good video. Thank you

Just curious, is it normal that the north position doesn't perfectly aligned with 12 o'clock position like the regular diving bezel? I have Ball DU with inner navigation bezel and the N mark slightly off the 12 hour mark and it's just bothering my eyes LOL 😂. Please let me know if this normal or somekind of lack in detail making process. Thank you so much!

There's no videos on that Orient you wore here, I looked it up ☹️

Does someone knows the exact model of the Orient he's using? Thanks

@mitchellhessburg8979

3 жыл бұрын

Little late but I found it searching Orient Dual Time Zone FXC00002B0 or WV0041XC.

what about the difference of using this method in the morning and in the afternoon when finding south by judging 1/2 clockwise or counter-clockwise ?

Hey there, I appreciate your videos, I've learned quite a bit over the past few days! I wanted to ask how you like that Orient dual dial watch (the one with both a quartz and mechanical movement)? When I saw it I became quite interested, but I can't seem to find much info on it. Seems like it would be a really neat watch.

@islandwatch

6 жыл бұрын

I like it; it's pretty nifty. Different for sure, and I like the auto display. It is very different.

Because I am an old man, I don't remember exactly boy scout days. But as I remember, we put a stick in the ground and laid the watch in the shadow. Then, rotate the watch, so the hour hand aims at the stick. I think halfway between the stick and noon was south.

So, you always go for the SHORTEST angle between noon & the hour hand to give South (northern hemisphere)? Very interesting, thnx! First saw this in the ‘Scout Handbook’ many, many years ago! 😁 Love your videos btw

Looking for a watch like SRP669K1 really interesting timepiece. Ah... and thanks for this tip. Always wondered there was a trick to it other then just the looks. That's it.... the timepiece I want to get when possible.

Does it work if I'm located along the equator?

What do you do when the hour and minute hands are exactly 180 degrees (30 mins) from each other? Which way is south

Very cool, thanks!

hi what was the model of your orient watch. Good instructional video

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Orient Dual

Will those gloves be available for purchasing? I'm in love with them.

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

No plans yet, but thanks for expressing interest!

so basicly we align hour with SE then point hour to the sun right?

Thank you !!! very usefull

Hi Mark, I use the Compass Bezel on my Endurance Pro as a GMT and a Divers Timer. To use it as a GMT I put the “N” on the Hour Hand. My cousin is 9 Hours ahead of me so his time is marked with “W”. My daughter is 7 Hours behind and shown opposite the 150 and my aunt is 5 Hours behind opposite 210. To use as a Timer I put the “N” on the Minute Hand. 15 Minutes is opposite “E”, 30 Minutes is opposite the “S” and 45 Minutes is opposite the “W”.

Wondering what are your thoughts on the seiko SNAB71 ??

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I'm not familiar with this model.

This is so handy to know!

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Indeed!

im a mariner and i carry protrek prg 250 and i was wondering where can i use the compass bezel since it has digital compass thanks for the info!

Thanks Mark! at last I know how to use my Alpanist! :D

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Adds a nice feature to a cool watch.

Is an Orient of the same quality as a Seiko?

I think f I was in that kind of situation I'd just have a compass with me, but that is a neat trick!

love the video subject came up with the family now I know thanks kid.

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

that logo looks great on that gloves, another fantastic info from you. thanks mark really appreciate for this video as I had asked you on 23 January to have a video on compass bezel as I recently got my new Seiko 5 snzjo3k1 n wanted to know about the use of map bezel. if possible can you shed some light on 7s36 movement on my Seiko 5 as nobody talks about it. is it same as 7s26 or superior? will wait for your reply. thanks

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Less of a movement as far as refinement, but no less of a workhorse!

@sarfarazshaikh771

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks

That was very clear. Thank you, now I can use my sarb17

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Perfect!

@Davitamon76

7 жыл бұрын

Clear case of 'RTFM'.........;)

I wear a Seiko 5 SRP667K1 but with a canvas strap. I didn't know that the 669 came with a bracelet! Looks much more cooler with a bracelet. Will probably order one.

@islandwatch

7 жыл бұрын

Absolutely good looking watch.

@alpaybyrktr

7 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts. The movement is also incredible.

@IononesRoomfulofDrumsStudio

Жыл бұрын

I have the SRP667 on a grey leather strap. It looks amazing and I get compliments when I wear it.