What about a compressor? To sound like a synth - especially an older synth - squash the dynamics with compression.

@M2Mil7er

2 жыл бұрын

fuzz or distortion essentially compresses the signal by clipping the wave form. Same as you can drive a compressor to distort the signal.

@manobap

2 жыл бұрын

@@M2Mil7er exactly what I was going to say. One of my favorites is the SFT from Catalinbread, because it’s a drive that cleans a little when the dinamics is low, but compresses a lot with a little more expressive volume. You can control just by your fingers emulating this old synths. Other tip is use a expression pedal in some models like moogerfooger filter to expand the controls. Behaves like a knob on a minimoog for instance.

@TayTayMakesBeats

2 жыл бұрын

That's interesting, I've got the opposite issue. I'm an analog synth boi and the main reason I want to get a bass is because of the dynamics. You can do a lot of crazy shit on synth but one of the hardest things to do is get anywhere close to the kind of physical interactivity of a bass or guitar.

@johncrafton8319

2 жыл бұрын

@@TayTayMakesBeats Slides, bends, muting, use of different parts of the pick (or different parts of your fingers or thumb), being more passive or more aggressive - all of these things (and more) can create some great dynamics when playing bass. I also use a volume pedal for swells and for killing the attack, and I use an expression pedal for EQ sweeps.

@buckemptier

2 жыл бұрын

@@TayTayMakesBeats That's exactly why you should play the bass. The idea isn't to literally sound like a synth, you just wanna add syth to your bass, not become a machine, that defeats the purpose, as you are saying. You've got it right, I don't personally think compression has anything to do with it

Octave is essential. So is the envelope filter. If you use a mod pedal keep the rate slow. Fuzz is always cool when used minimally.

@mihailmilev9909

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@bassplayer10

Жыл бұрын

@@mihailmilev9909 I forgot I wrote this. 👍🏼

@garrettlowell7637

Ай бұрын

Yes-I like the Octapussy - fuzz and octave pedal from Catalinbread.

You have no idea how much I've been searching for a video like this. Thank you, Ian

@stephenshoihet2590

2 жыл бұрын

if you haven't already, check out his video "10 greatest synth bass lines through history (and how to get the sounds)

@mihailmilev9909

Жыл бұрын

Well congrats lol

@mihailmilev9909

Жыл бұрын

​@@stephenshoihet2590oh thanks!

Great place to start: 4 elements in this order - Octave / Fuzz / Envelope / Chorus

@MrClassicmetal

Жыл бұрын

A phaser works nicely as well.

@mihailmilev9909

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@mihailmilev9909

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrClassicmetalare they not kinda the same? Or was that Flanger?

Mr. Allison. Been waiting for the next podcast. I have to say you are one of the best podcast hosts/interviewers I have ever listened to. Your questions are poignant and the dynamic between yourself and Scott is palpable. Keep up the great work! Looking forward to your content.

I know we will never get that sound...but atleast we will start working to get closer to it..

sounds better than any boutique synth I’ve heard or tried

Great video saved to my bass tones folder

Damn that envelope really really hits hard doesn't it?

@buckemptier

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah I was thinking the same thing, gooey as fuck. Like not just the aeiou but with the sometimes Y too

another tip : run an octave pedal before the fuzz, max out the low frequencies. If you turn the gain up and use a noise gate, you can get squared synth tones

OMFG, this is beyond awesome!

Great choices, chorus was big time for bringing synths to life

@louisjames62516

Жыл бұрын

Where do you generally set the rate and depth for synth bass tones?

Shades of Minimoog! The chorus is the magic. The envelope filter makes it sound like a late 70s Stevie Wonder cover band. (grin)

Thanks for the tip. Those tones sounded great!

What I love is that you described my pedalboard with 100% accuracy, and I didn’t even watch this video when I built my board! Outstanding!

The modulation sounded like the intro to "We The People" - Tribe Called Quest 🖤

great for playing Funkadelic- knee deep ! Pure fun !

Idk why but that first riff(idk if this is the right word, I just woke up in the middle of the night) sounds like staying alive

Dank as hell.

So i took this advice and holy crap it is fun. I used a phaser and it was sweet

I abolutely love what you do in 0:46 !!!

Thats badass.

INCREDIBLE!

Thank you Ian!

I perfer to octave my fuzz over fuzz my octave

@rasmusolesen5307

2 жыл бұрын

"Glitching" the octaver with a clipped(fuzzy/distorted/crunchy...etc) signal can sometimes add its own kinda chorus/hammond effect in the high frequencies. Very cool stuff.

@bassplayer10

2 жыл бұрын

Always experiment.

@DougieD_Funk

2 жыл бұрын

Yea that’s what this brotha said too. Octave then fuzz. No right or wrong but without a doubt there’s a good amount of low-end loss if/when placing fuzz before an octave in the chain.

Got it already 😆 thanks love it

God damn this is sick!

Oh wow!! That final sound i would mistake for a synth!!

Chorus kills everything

This is the coolest thing I’ve seen all day

Guitars that look like that always have the best sound.

Love that envelope filter! This is awesome 👌

The first element is money

That sounds cool

Cool tip for this I learned from the Snarky Puppy bassist You can play the fundamental of a bass note while cutting out most of the high overtones and getting a really smooth yet powerful synth-y tone by plucking every note 12 frets up. Combine this with a bit of distortion and you can get a similar sound without needing pedals So if I wanted to play the 3rd fret C note on my A string: my plucking finger has to be plucking the string on the 15th fret of the C string. It works on a similar principal to artificial harmonics

God what a beautiful guitar that is

@bigkahuna5445

Жыл бұрын

Yes My Brother I Said The Same Thang! And Dat Stank Made It More Beautiful Bro,SHEEEET!

@The_Copper_Element_Itself

10 ай бұрын

You just made all bassists, including me, cry and get convulsions on the floor

@danielschenker9874

9 ай бұрын

@@The_Copper_Element_ItselfIt is a recent phenomen that people have started to consider a bass guitar to not be a guitar. Tons of older bassists will refer to their instrument as a guitar.

I just love that bass, regardless to the sound.

Which fuzz and envelope filter are you using here? Sounds fantastic!!

@IanMartinAllison

2 жыл бұрын

3Leaf Doom2 and the Tron Up in the HX Stomp

Great sounds

Yes!! I use my tech 21 Bass fly rig with the overdrive, octave and chorus. Thanks mate!

Thank you for your knowledge

Great tone !

You just created the duck pedal.

FINALLLYYYY!!!!

We have Scott at home Scott at home:

@athmaid

2 жыл бұрын

Scott at home sure knows a lot though

That envelope filter might help me get close to the Bootsy sound.

That's freaking cool!

Gotta love the bass face

That envelope filter 🔥

That metal plate over the strings would drive me crazy.

@devinebass

9 ай бұрын

Totally get that! The mute can be a bit of an adjustment, but it helps achieve that distinctive tone in certain styles of playing. It's all about finding what works best for your own sound and comfort. 🎵🎸👍

A HX Stomp preset of this example would be interesting

Thank you! This helps.

That is a beautiful bass 😍🎸

I can smell that funk from here !!

I used an octavator, chorus (heavy), a swell and distortion tto create a sound like a klaxton or a dark shimmering horn blast.

Octave pedal plus a tube overdrive, chorus, and light reverb.

I'll have all of those soon, I actually modded my Havalina Fuzz for bass and have an MXR Auto Q, a Compressore, and I'm getting an octave pedal in the mail this week

Holy fuck…. THANK YOU!

Greaaaat

Bravo!

Love it

This is extremely helpful

@slamdangles

2 жыл бұрын

no it isn't, try the sound out, it sounds nothing like a synth. just an out of tune bass with chorus and fuzz

The sauce of awesome, right here :)

Great

🔥🔥🔥😭

Sounded badass before the chorus🎸💯

@devinebass

11 ай бұрын

🧡🧡🧡

Hell yea

Sounds like the "lets groove" bassline

Max Webster unlocked.

if you don't want to play so far up the neck (because the boss and other octave pedals add the synth sound but shift down), you can add an octave up at the start of that chain. at this point you might just want to buy a bass synth pedal, seeing as that's what the bass octave pedals are anyways.

I'm sure Cliff Burton and Jason Newsted would agree;)

I have an rc 1 synthesizer pedal 😊

The electro harmonix bass microsynth pedal does almost all of this in a single unit. No chorus though.

Boss makes a synthesizer pedal

I'm looking for something to use with a digital piano with piano and Rhodes sounds to get a funky vibe going. I understand reverb and delay are the most basic things but I can't seem to understand the difference between all pedals. Your envelope filter made everything sound interesting. What do you recommend I get around $250 ?

I did this for years. Until I got a Future Impact bass synth pedal. That's the ticket!

What's the metal piece over your strings for?

Wanna hear some good synth presets from HX stomp, people!

That's crazy

I feel kinda fly Standing next to you

Ouu "you are in my sytem" vibes

Stinky tone❤

I have a zoom b1xfour that has a synth preset and it includes all 4 of these things but in a different order. So I might just swap them around and see what happens. 😂

No Bassist needs that sounds !!!

I got a early 90's danelectro collecting dust

Wooooow

Which brand pedals are you using right here wow

Mind...blown...

What if you want the hip hop bass sound?

For what is usefull a jazz bass over pbass?

Yo, I have that bass, Electra or fender right?

I have an octave, overdrive and chorus pedal. What settings should i set them to, regarding volume, level etc

Ian, Oh Master of the Octave pedal! Where should we be putting our Octave pedal in the signal chain!? This short would suggest that it came first, but I have my Octave Pedal after my fuzz! ...could experiment I guess ;)

@athmaid

2 жыл бұрын

They have a different video on bass synth sounds that shows that the signal chain is octaver, fuzz/distortion, envelope filter (optional), chorus in that order. I have heard others say that they put the fuzz in front of the octaver instead, might be worth checking out. Putting a compressor before all that seems to be pretty common, too

Scott, silly question, but what is the purpose of the metal plate over the strings and does it get in the way?

@cityslickerbass

2 жыл бұрын

It's design feature on older-style basses to protect the pickups. There is also a bridge guard which you typically see with these as well as a thumb rest sometimes. It does restrict where you pluck the string and people remove based on personal preference. That's Ian in the video btw.

@naturalfinish

2 жыл бұрын

@@cityslickerbass thank you and I meant Ian, my bad lol

Is that flatwound on jazz bass? sound awesome man

Thundercat: Write that down, WRITE THST DOWN!

What's that cover over his strings?

What amp do you use?

Mom I want Scott's bass lessons We have Scott's bass lessons at home Scott's bass lessons at home:

any pedals that do all of this in one?