Just some clarification here! Always save and restart after making changes in your printer.cfg (this reloads and applies the settings you've changed) Some people are having issues with the z offset so i recommend setting / fine tuning that on the machine itself and not touching any of the printer.cfg settings for offsets. When tightening your bed the back left corner has a spacer that attaches to the cable strain mount for the bed wiring harness. therefore the tightest your bed can be is determined by that spacer. tighten this and manually level your bed to achieve the tightest possible level bed. **always check that your axis move freely and to not contact any other parts of the machine!

Any new users watching this ***DO NOT*** tighten your bed all the way down as suggested in this video. There are standoffs (actually belt holders) under the bed, if you try and tighten them all the way the standoffs will meet the bed and you will dome your bed.

@v.h.203

10 ай бұрын

+1. Unfortunately after reading this, my bed had been like that for few weeks already (I was wondering how come the build plate would no longer lay flat so soon) and I have dimples in the insulation, but at least I could release the pressure on it. In principle, this is not bad advice, but does not work for this printer due to these belt end caps. The author should add a note to the video.

@TaelonOrigin

7 ай бұрын

Is that true for the 4 plus/max as well? The belt holders look like a separate bracket

@FuzzyScaredyCat

7 ай бұрын

@@TaelonOrigin I don't have access to one. Take a look under the bed, if you can see some uprights that aren't attach to the bed itself then I'd hazard a guess that the answer would be yes.

@jarkkoaitti287

7 ай бұрын

I have max and i've spent some very recent time adjusting the bed and learned some things. i think especially with max, that bed bow can be a lot. I had tendency to always "tighten" the bed when leveling, causing the center to be the highest point after few rounds.

@ibjeepr

6 ай бұрын

The bed on my N4P is domed. I assumed it was like that from the factory but now I'm not sure.@@v.h.203

Still waiting on my Nep 4 Pro and this is a great video for getting setup with klipper for a newbie to it like me. Can’t wait to get it setup. Thanks for taking the time!

This is incredibly detailed! Thank you for taking the time to show the calculations and what they affect on the printer settings. I've been debating about getting a new 3D printer and this might be my next!

@nazgullinux6601

8 ай бұрын

If you haven't decided yet, I can say from my last 6 months with a Neptune 4, its definitely worth it. Best sub-$500 printer I've ever used.

Dear lord... perfect timing as I'm working on my Neptune 4 videos

@KanielD

Жыл бұрын

Collab time???

Thank you so much for this super good video! I was having constant problems from stringing to my nozzle hitting the infill and by following your video nearly all of my problems have gone away! This video is one that every person with a Neptune 4 needs to watch.

@PWIZZLE7

7 ай бұрын

i have issues with nozzle drag too, and finding more issues recently with warping and zits etc... lol. but that nozzle drag is the most annoying

@SirGorillaGT659

3 ай бұрын

@@PWIZZLE7 Same I hate it so much.

@PWIZZLE7

3 ай бұрын

@MasonBoyd659 I started using glue stick once in awhile and leaving the plate sticky and it helps quite a bit. someone said turn combing off helps. hate to resort to glue stick but if it works it works

Just placed my Neptune 4 order. First thing I'm doing is coming back to this video. Thanks!

@WildRoseBuilds

Жыл бұрын

Awesome congrats on the new printer!

@mab4110

11 ай бұрын

Question. I keep updating my rotation distance in my printer cfg file but extrusion amount remains the same, 47mm extruded. Any suggestions? 3:10

@pickashould

11 ай бұрын

@@mab4110 did you find the answer yet I have the same issue

I feel like so much info was left out of this video that would've been helpful for people like me who are just getting into this hobby

@loghead2437

9 ай бұрын

I’m so confused lol I just ordered one and have absolutely no idea what I’m getting myself into and I don’t have any friends that can help me understand it any better

@B_M_A

6 ай бұрын

If you're new just watch his previous video about the neptune 3 line etc. My first ever printer was the 3 Pro and to be fair it was really easy to setup and I watched his video but also watched many others just to see if there were any differences. Truthfully just take your time and do things in steps, meaning, build the printer and make sure it's all level etc and then print parts pieces etc for a while and visually see what may happen or what you may not like about the models you're printing and then move on to the next step which would be the extrusion rate of the filament - look at examples of under or over extruding and see where you lie. A lot of these videos try to pack everything in one so it's overwhelming for a ton of people and these printers work pretty well brand new out of the box with zero tuning other than making sure it's level and calibrated etc. It's best to take steps but also enjoy the printer and note inconsistencies or issues from print to print and then tune on the printer every so often that way you can pinpoint what helped and what didn't if that makes sense. It is much harder to perfect the quality when you make tons of changes all at once you know. @@loghead2437

@marsel_reina

3 ай бұрын

This isn't a video for beginners. You don't need it right now, keep it simple then come back later

I bought the Neptune 4 Pro yesterda and im glad that this video exists. I havent understood anything but thats not important :D

Neptune4 is my first printer, this video will be super handy thanks

Awesome video! Thank you so much, would love to see more

2:00 - That's a very flat looking bed mesh! Thanks for this excellent and very useful tutorial.

@Liberty4Ever

10 ай бұрын

I received my Neptune 4 Pro a week ago and got an equally awesome looking flat bed mesh by simply running the automated bed mesh level, looking at the values, turning the bed leveling knobs and repeating that process two more times.

@Liberty4Ever

7 ай бұрын

@@leonskum6864 - I didn't know about the "screws_tilt_adjust" in Klipper. Thanks! I was already impressed at how easily the automatic bed probing and the visualization provided by displaying the data allowed me to manually adjust the bed leveling on the Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro. It's way faster and easier than using a paper shim, where each adjustment impacts the others.

Thanks a lot for the help! I had a hard time getting my printer to print for a long time... and this helped a lot!

Thank you so much for this great video. Subscribed.

Great video, thanks. Now I just need to go rummaging around in the early 90s to find my cassette tapes 😂

Thank you! This was super helpful, although this is my first fdm printer so there is still a bit of your video that I didn't understand because I am such a noob

Wow! Nice video! I'm sure it can apply to my Ender 3 S1 Pro when I'll jump in Klipper world.

Thank you so much for this calibration tutorial!

@WildRoseBuilds

9 ай бұрын

Hope it helped!

Thank you for this calibration tutorial. If you could clarify something for me that would be awesome. Is it recommended to calibrate the tuning tower extruder temp calibration, the extruder/ bed pid, and the pressure advance calibration for each type of filament? Changing the printer settings each time we change filament? Thank you again for this tutorial.

Your tuning video has been so helpful. Thank you mate. Can you please do a video of retraction ?

This is great! Thank you!

Thank you for the video!

I love this Neptune 4. I don't even get ghosting at 250mm/s. 121 point auto level with fine tune bed leveling knobs has been a good feature. I've not had a single fail print. Perfect first layer everytime.

@Hood.Housekeeping

9 ай бұрын

Are you only printing with pla. I finally got petg to work with a filament dryer, flow rate 150, 30mm per sec. Z step finally adjusted. But it still gets thin every once in a while for seemingly no reason. Oh and I did a new nozzle and hotend tube.

@fredblogs

9 ай бұрын

@@Hood.Housekeeping I’ve had mine about five days and STILL trying to get a decent first level, I spent hours yesterday and got a half decent first layer and then this morning it’s so low that it is nearly scratching the bed. Worst purchase of my life so far.

@SEC99

9 ай бұрын

Same. Impossible to get a decent first layer on this piece of junk. @@fredblogs

@thejoetandy

8 ай бұрын

​@@fredblogsany luck yet?

@fredblogs

8 ай бұрын

@@thejoetandy Hi, Thank you for your email, unfortunately I have now received a refund from Creality as the Issue was beyond my capabilities. I do understand that many people would have no problem with the K1 but at 72 my knowledge is limited. All the best.

Great info. Thanks.

@WildRoseBuilds

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

This video is single-handedly carrying the Neptune 4 users' mental health

Excellent! Thank you very much!

@WildRoseBuilds

11 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Thank you so much, Im new to printing and couldn't figure out why my bed was leveled but the corners seemed closer to the nozzle then the center

Just ordered one of these, thanks for the vid. Though Teaching tech has a e step calculator to help

Awesome break down. It would be awesome if this was automated, but the 3D printer doesn't come w lidar, extra sensors, etc. This is an appreciated breakdown to get the most out of a budget 3D printer!

@justin.c.taylor

Жыл бұрын

Can you do a non-PLA video?!? An accessory video such as new nozzle for abrasive filaments, replacement sheets or glass.

@justin.c.taylor

Жыл бұрын

Also, I did the z axis step and used VHS tapes bc cassette tapes are hidden in another box! That said loosening those z axis collars and tightening, I think another moment spent noting 2 screws each. I loosened, didn't remove the screws. Thanks again!!!

neptune 4 pro has a segmented bed of 2 sections , bed pid tuning as stated here only calibrates one section ,any thoughts? excellent content and presentation btw

nice guide couldve used this when i converted my vyper to klipper :P i think you should probably have mentioned input shaper seeing how it's one of the features elegoo brags about, despite them not having a accelerometor, or even seemingly a conection for it..

Finally I have use for my cassette tapes

Just a word of warning for anyone doing this: I don't recommend tuning the pressure advance unless you think there's a problem with your prints. I followed the steps exactly, ended up with a value about the same as in the video, and it caused issues. After doing this, my prints had gaps and holes between outer walls and infill and it took me a day of troubleshooting to figure out it was the pressure advance. I reset it back to the default value and it's all good now. Sure, there's a chance tuning it may improve your print quality a bit but clearly it's not so simple to get this value correct. Chances are, they have it set at the right value from the factory.

Great stuff and thanks. Can you do a quick vid or comment on the heat tower ( link to stl etc ) and how to read it, pls?

This is all super advanced for me. Right now the nozzle starts hitting my print about 15cm high and if i can't find a quick fix for it soon I will be returning the printer.

Nice!

Thanks for this great video! Can the same formula be used for the Y-Axis Rotational Value if my calibration model is the wrong length?

Im not too sure if I understand, are you saying that when we go to do the auxiliary bed leveling we should start with the far left corner, right? or do you mean before leveling, tighten the left corner all the way down tight, so that when auto leveling it reads numbers based off the tightness of that left corner making the measurements more precise for less vibration?

Great video and information! One suggestion, level your booming music to the level of your voice. I had to keep turning the volume up and down depending on if it was music or dialogue.

PID can be done from the touchscreen menu under Advanced settings in the settings tab. Both work and both update the PID values.

Tkanks for this amazing tutorial! I was curious what retraction settings do you use in your timelapses because I don't see any stringing.

I have the Neptune pro 4 and getting decent prints with out doing all this , not saying it’s not important but it’s Greek to me and a lot for others . Good that you know thanks .

@WildRoseBuilds

8 ай бұрын

Yeah! Elegoo did a great job with the default setting on this machine!

@chrinamint

4 ай бұрын

I was going to say man... I will be receiving mine tomorrow so I was just watching some videos and I was reconsidering my life choices after watching this! I didn't think I was going to have to get into all this! I'm going to see how it works without having to do any of this. I'm not doing anything professional... And I'm usually not too unhappy with my prints even if they have a little layer line here or there or something. But if I need it at least I know this is there. I am saving it for future reference.

@chrinamint

4 ай бұрын

And thank you so much for taking the time to share this with people.

@PeterAgostiniJdcap26

4 ай бұрын

@@chrinamint get a bambu lab p1s Best choice and easy or the A 1 mini Kinda of small a start up unit . I got rid of my Neptune glad I did !

Great video. I'm running an older laptop. I would like to connect the printer to the laptop. My printer shows a Mac address in the IP address on the display. What do I do, I can't seem to get the two connected. It just doesn't seem as easy as it should be.

OMG! Who has audio cassettes anymore!? Nice video!

Can you please do a full tuning setup for the np4?

Hi, how much should i tighten the belts? I'm a bit confused by this, thank you

great channel subscribed! what do you suggest this 4 pro or a kobra 2 machine? thx so much?thank yyy

Thanks for this video. Do these settings apply to the Neptune 4 Max?

How would you check the PID with the neptune4 pro, it has an center heater bed and an outer bed?

Nice Video ty, Comment out the watermark section, was what i was missing... Besides, wouldn't we have to put on the second bed heater also for an accurate PID tune? Edited: Misunderstood...

Hey, How i make this in the 4 Pro with the Pid calibration because there are bed and bed1 ??

👍 Does it have dimension calibration values in the config file like xyz steps in Marlin? The speed of printing the calibration towers is set somewhere according to your default printing speed or it's hard-coded in clipper?

I really wish that elegoo had included these instructions with the printer. I managed to get by just fine until my last update, but now I apparently have to go through all of this. Since my break is over, this is going to take the rest of the year to fix.

Just ordered the Neptune 4 plus as my first 3D printer. Is this video relevant also for the 4 plus? Overwhelmed with all this and trying to absorb as much info as possible before it arrives. I hope I made the right decision as it seems Elegoo just rush new products out but software is lacking.

A little tip after referring to this video for a while. Orcaslicer has the temp test and pressure advanced test integrated in the software. No need to put all those commands. Just click, pick your intervals, and print

i just bought the neptune 4 max. already own an x1c. (i've owned many printers, the x1c earned them all a spot at the local makerspace). i guess the steps would be the same to tune the 4 max, right?

In your video you levelled the x-axis gantry. Can you expain more how to complete this, mine is off slightly (1mm) and Im wondering if this why my prints are striking infill 1" off bed. I did what you said but the right side is not staying down the same as the left

I love this printer I received one back in November 2023, I worked my way up to printing Carbon PLA and the prints where outstanding, last night I switched over to Carbon ASA and just had a a rough time trying to get just the first Lair to the bed and when I did managed to get past the first lair after about 10 -15 levels up the part would lift up in 2 spots and force me to abort the print. I looked at the bed leveling graft and it really looks horrible even after leveling the bed a couple of times , when I'm setting my z height in the leveling process my z number is at z -1.520 ? should I turn my leveling screws up all the way or even down all the way and restart the leveling process. my nozzle temp was set to 250 c bed was at 90c i did try it at 270c even 290c and my bed at 100c with no luck print Hight was .200 speed was at 200 and then 250 and i tried it at 300 I guess I'm lost and I think I'll start all over again tonight , maybe I should go thru what your explaining in this video I don't know can you suggest anything that may help me out Thanks

Great Video I have a big problem with my Leveling. When i select 'Leveling' and then select continue, the Z Axis is way too deep and the Nozzle gets pushed into the Heating bed. Any Help? (Elegoo Neptune 4) Thank you

Thanks for the video man it's super helpful video for a newbie like me :D A couple questions re PID tuning. When you say turn on the part cooling fan for PID calibration, does that include the auxiliary fan array? As when I turn on my part cooling fan from Fluidd the auxiliary fan comes on with it - and that thing is blasting air 👀 When calibrating the bed PID do you still have the fan on? And if so where should I position the gantry so that the fan array is on the side blowing across the whole bed, rather than in the center as it was for the extruder calibration?

@oaklynnmielcarek

7 ай бұрын

When I turn the fan on with the variable control in Fluidd, it only controls the auxiliary fan. I think he wants us to turn that fan on. If the noise bothers you, you can set that value to 80% which is equvialent to "normal" mode on the UI on the printer. He has you set it to "sport" mode mode with 100% fan speed on Fluidd.

How do you adjust after running the bed mesh calibration? In the tune menu I noticed my bed is still largely off.

Im looking to buy 8 of these to start a print farm, and Im wondering ıf ı will be able to run Enraged rabbit carrot feeder on the neptune 4 pro will it require a pi4, ?

you should add that wide tuning tower to your description so we can print it cause i cant find ANY like that to push the speed

Can we have the link to the temperature tower you used? I can't find that anywhere

@JustNice980

10 ай бұрын

Same

I would love to see an tutorial how to tweak input shaping. I get alot of ringing and not sure how to do it on N4.

@LapisLazuliEater

2 ай бұрын

google z binding and loosen the specific screws on the z-axis, not all the screws/bolts are supposed to be tight so the printer naturally compensates for imperfections in the screws

any reason to do the bed mesh calibration through klipper and not the one built into the machine ui?

How tight Z axis wheels should be? I can rotate freely one of them using my finger. Is that ok?

where can i get that tuning tower stl?

assuming this process will work for the Neptune 4 MAX, what might I have to do differently?

Filament brand/model? Hs pla is necessary or normal one is ok with speed 200/250 mm?

What do you mean level according to the back left corner? The auxiliary leveling function has you start at the front left and end with the front right. Does the order change now that the back left corner is tightened all the way, or do I level it like normal?

@royk8721

Ай бұрын

dont follow that! i did and had to remove the whole bed to fix what it fucked up

@Benny-br5xk

Ай бұрын

@@royk8721 Ended up just bed leveling the normal way and then let auto bed leveling take care of the rest. Haven't had issues.

Would you be willing to do a video on how to set up profiles for the Neptune 4 in Cura 5? The stock Elegoo Cura is old and not that great.

@WildRoseBuilds

11 ай бұрын

i dont use cura! i like prusa slicer much better. they have a neptune 3 pro profile that works great with increased speed settings.

this video is great but doesn't cover where to get the software to configure the e-steps or how to install it - does anyone have a link?

Great guide!! Quick question - on the Pro, which section of the bed is heater_bed and which is heater_bed1? it seems that heater_bed1 is heating up for a heater_bed calibration and vice versa.

@zrie_prakis

4 ай бұрын

Forgot to circle back here. Elegoo had shipped my unit with my bed heater wires installed backwards. I managed to find a photo of the correct wiring. After flipping the wires, everything heats correctly now.

The pro has 2 heater zones in the bed. How do you PID tune both?

I have a problem with my Neptune 4, the heat reaches the end of the teflon tube to the cold zone, deforms the filament with the help of the feed gears and gets stuck, what could be my solution?

You mention "setting the Z offset we got earlier" after entering the correct rotation distance. When did we get this? I didnt write anything down from before so how would I get this now? It's set to 0.0 in my config, but on the dashboard after all the other config steps, I see -0.690. Can I use that?

Clearly my head isn't on my shoulders and this may be a dumb question but when you mention fine tuning your bed after probing for the mesh bed. Is the tuning done manually or through commands? Would this just be adjusting the bed feet over and over?

Hey, where can I find the file you used to do the temperature calibration test?

@royk8721

Ай бұрын

did you find it yet? im gonna have to look for one. if i find it ill paste it here. almost a good tutorial but as per youtube tutorial guidelines, there has to be a fuck up somewhere

How does the built in temp tower from orcaslicer compare to the temp tower command used here? The orcaslicer temp tower is easier to use at least, and I even scaled it up (X and Y only. left Z unchanged) to allow the printer to come up to speed more than smaller temp towers would allow.

@haraldkrennrich3624

8 ай бұрын

I think the difference is that you can throw in any model you wish. You need to know the number of layers/section and klipper will change the temp.

Unrelated question, how do you know to do all these? Like, we learn from you but where do you learn from?

For wheel tightness, should the wheels be loose or super tight? On mine, the left side has super tight wheels that don't move when I try to spin them but the right ones are loose and spin freely. And how would I loosen or tighten them. I tried taking the hex wrench to the loose wheel and couldn't make it any tighter.

@maxe7286

7 ай бұрын

For anyone having this issue in the future - check to make sure the nuts are actually contacting the screw. They're captive so they just hang there if they haven't caught any threads

Please help. I have the same printer and have problem with printing, when I print ball always first layers go not good. After about printing almost 10mm, then layers became better. I thought not enough cooling, turned on additional cooling but not helped. Also I printed the same two cats and bad layers on the same places. What can be the problem? The printer is new.

what software are you using to make all these changes in?

You don't need to manually add the pid values. If you click save config then hit enter it auto updates them in to the config file at the bottom of the config.

I just pre-ordered my Neptune 4 pro….but now I’m having doubts, this video scared the crap out of me

@johnlocke3481

6 ай бұрын

I hope you had a good experience. I'll personally never buy from them again

@ericsparkman3645

6 ай бұрын

@@johnlocke3481 I went through 2 units and got my money back, I ordered a Bambu Lab printer.

@chrinamint

4 ай бұрын

I just ordered one too it should be here tomorrow. Only I'm just now seeing this video. If I had seen this first I probably wouldn't have gotten it!

@ericsparkman3645

4 ай бұрын

@@chrinamint I got 2 bad units in a row, I took it back ad got a Bambu Lab printer, elegoo is garbage

My Neptune 4 arrived today and is driving me nuts. Every print I make has layer shifts on exactly the same heights. Everything above those layers or below is perfect. What can this be?

First, thank you for your work. I learned alot from this video about my new n4plus. I do have a question, though. at 1:45, you show input of command "bed_mesh calibrate". My machine returned "unknown command: "bed_mesh". I entered the command in the same console you did. Is it possible this command has been deleted by the devs? Have a great day everyone.

Really awesome video thank you! I do have just one little question regarding the z_offset probe. did you just use the offset you had to lower your bed when leveling the bed within the neptunes display (0.03)?

@hassansaleh7985

11 ай бұрын

I was wondering this myself too, mines is closer to -1.7mm 😅

@csburnett

11 ай бұрын

@@hassansaleh7985 SAme, was wondering what I was doing wrong.

@hassansaleh7985

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I didn't understand the part about tightening the rear knob as tight as it can go and leveling accordingly. When I try that the bed is totally warped to one corner haha@@csburnett

@Rob-vt1mz

7 ай бұрын

yeah I just did this and my mesh map is nothing but a big twist @@hassansaleh7985

Could someone please help me fix something when I do a model for some weird reason it puts the model in the corner instead the middle where it is in cura

When I try to enter the command G1 E50 F60 I get an error on Fluidd “!! Extrude only move too long (-209.580 mm vs 150.00 mm)” Any ideas? I have all axis home.

Thank you for really useful information 👍 but is it supposed to be done by Elegoo at the factory?

@GenericCat

11 ай бұрын

Yes this video should come with heavy disclaimers, people shouldn't be copy pasting commands they don't understand into their printers

@randogame4438

10 ай бұрын

@@GenericCat Yeah, I wouldn't feel comfortable doing ANY of this to my printers config file..It's all greek to me and I can imagine messing it all up!

@JustNice980

10 ай бұрын

@@randogame4438 making mistakes is how we learn. I bricked my machine the second day I had it. That mistake helped me to learn way more about my machine than I otherwise would have. Same goes for this tuning process. It's now helping me to recognize problems that I did not understand were problems previously. With that knowledge, my prints are looking better than ever and my confidence is at an all trime high when it comes to this machine and my understanding of it.

Its been a while since you uploaded the video but hope you answer. So I wonder if really calibrating the extruder feed rate, rotation distance is necessary because you can just adjust it using filmware no? like if anyone is getting under extrusion they can simply increase the extrusion rate in cura material settings for example.

@NSNorse

8 ай бұрын

Well.. the comparison on those two procedures would be like you needing an oil leak in your car fixed, but instead of getting it fixed, you just run a hose to the engine and add oil as you drive.

For some reason mine won't do anything when I attempt the temp tower in the console of my Neptune 4 Pro's IP / Web UI ' fluidd' ?

Can I get a link to the tuning tower you use from about 4 minutes on??

@JustNice980

10 ай бұрын

Same

How to access Fluidd? All tutorials including this one start like the person knows Klipper or Fluidd but I bought the printer without any knowledge and I am stunned right at the start of this video. Would be nice to have had that part explained.

@thejamiestarbuck

7 ай бұрын

You need the printer connected to your network. Either ethernet or wifi depending on your printer variant. Then on the printer screen look in the settings > about and the ip address is at thr bottom. Go to your computer and put that ip address in your browser. Bingo.

Puedes hacer un vídeo de hacer timelapset con elegoo neptune 4 pro

will this work with the neptune 4 max?

where can i find this software to tune the printer?

Do you happen to know how to add the Pause at Height/Layer Macros to Klipper for the Neptune 4 Pro? I'm trying to do a two filament print, but It seems that the Elegoo Cura app allows you to add pause at height, but the printer fails to follow the script.

@DunderMifflinBestBoss

11 ай бұрын

You have to add the Macro in your Printer cfg file. Works for me