He lowers the regulator pressure, the pressure in the firing chamber, or plenum, to allow the valve to open easier...open further, open more allowing a greater volume of air to be released. The reg pressure from the factory was so high that the hammer couldn't open the valve enough to get a large enough blast to attain the velocity he was looking for no matter how much he increased the hammer spring tension. What's really nice about the 25 grain, .25 caliber JSB King is that it doesn't take a lot of velocity/energy to do the job...so to speak. R, Steve. Thanks for the video James!

@petergambino2129

5 ай бұрын

TY for this comment. You are an excellent communicator! You should be a teacher.

@steveinla8963

5 ай бұрын

@@petergambino2129 Professional complements are always pleasing; thank you. I take it you now have a better understanding of what James is saying? I'm learning too. James is a much better tuner than I am. I've watched Robert Lane's videos. His KZread channel is Lane Regulators.

I just bought my first pcp and I’m on Utube trying to get a grasp on how to tune it so I can get the balance of accuracy and the most power for hunting. You really explain everything so I can understand the concept. Thank you and keep it up!

@user-nh8mq5in4s

6 ай бұрын

I got quite a few my self. Pcp rifles. James. Is. the real deal man no doubt about it. The guy is gold . I watched & listened & he git me thru some steps. I needed to get thru . To get my end result which was go od as I knew it would be cause I watched him do it ..

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

Awesome if you have any questions just ask, I'll try to respond as soon as I can

Perhaps I’m missing something but you “couldn’t get more power” initially - however you had the power adjuster on low. Then you decreased reg pressure but ALSO put the power adjuster on high. So couldn’t you get more power in the first place simply by turning the power to high? what am I missing?

Excellent video and you have the knowledge sir,, THANK YOU for sharing,,, I learned a LOT !!

STKO: Glad to see U r still around, Still miss Kenny Kormandy.

What chronograph are you using?

As I understand, leave the gun in high setting and adjust as normal and you will see your numbers move up and down with reg pressures adjustment and hammer adjustment. But it doesn't work that way with the transfer port in low. That's the best of both worlds for tuning the gun. Set it with the tune you want at high setting. Then set it to low if you want to plink. Reduces the amount of air and you will only see about what your getting. click back up to hight and you can go hunting. I love that I can plink up to 40 yds on low and set to high out to about 100 yds without retuning!!!

Wow your gun shoots way different than my two of Avenge-X and I have two different ones in 25 caliber a Bullpup and the synthetic classic both are the tube models and I have my regulator pressure set at 2000 PSI and my hammer spring at about 3 turns and I'm shooting at 890.

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

You are in Idaho right? I'm at 770' elevation in Indiana...that's one of main reasons I don't recommend everyone to copy each other's settings cause you won't have the same results

@gumbystown

6 ай бұрын

@@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS yeah I'm in Idaho at 5000 FT elevation

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

7x more elevation, air is definitely thinner up there haha but yea we're same reg settings( flow ) but hammerspring settings would be off...like a carburetor needs adjusted to run rich/lean depending where you ride

Will that Gen 2 stock fit a Gen 1?

Well said bro .broke it down nicely

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

Thanks man!

Do you approve of this newer model in .25 cal.?

Good job sir... Ive been watching your videos and learn a lot i also made a video same as that... In TAGALOG language 😁

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!!!

Why did you leave the transfer port on low with 2400 reg pressure? It seems like that would cause a bottleneck limiting not only air flow but hammer spring adjustment potential. I realize you can get to different velocities and accurate results with different tunes but I'm just curious why it was left on low.

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

That's how it was from PA remember? Well actually in-between but more towards low so I put it to low after zeroing the scope....I wanted to see what the performance was on paper before any tuning and see if there was any poi shift...that way if people get their gun same way or settings they can adjust right away after this video...with settings out of the box it was maxed out for a 25.4gr pellet whether the transfer port on high or low, if hammerspring was turned inward and no fps was gained on Lo it'd be the same on HI settings as well without resetting the reg down...and plus on Lo you get alot of shots for close range plinking or hunting

@blindj

6 ай бұрын

​@@ALLABOUTAIRGUNSYes I did remember it was like that out of the box. To be honest I did think with the transfer port on low it would limit the amount of hammer spring tension you could apply more than if the transfer report was on high. My thinking was that for instance in your case two and a half turns in was maxed out with transfer port on low. (Maxed out meaning no more velocity gained by turning it in further) BUT with the transfer port on high it would allow more are thus allowing more tention to be applied to the hammer spring. On low with maxed out at 2.5 with a 2400 rag but I was thinking on high you'd be able to get more like 3.5 or more. I'm actually curious and I'm going to try this on mine to see if it makes a difference. In my head it makes sense but I don't build air guns and I only have a few months experience with pcps. I retune my guns all the time because I shoot all kinds of different projectiles. 18-22 grain pellets and 17 - 22 grain slugs. I can get all of them very accurate/consistent but I only shoot out to 50 yds because of poor vision. I just shoot different projectiles and retune for fun. I shoot daily. When I pick up a new hobby I get kind of obsessive do tons of reading video watching and try to learn as much as I can.

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

Yea I was at one of the diminishing returns (settings) spectrum and opposite would be lower/lowest reg settings you could go with most hammerspring and nothing would be a substantial gain unless hammerspring was backed off and reg settings raised due to wasting air from overpowered hammerspring...it comes down to mechanical tuning the first before fine tuning the pellets or slugs with hammerspring tension

@jeraldhessler3435

6 ай бұрын

Just open the transfer port... it really doesn't make it more efficient

@heithwatkins

6 ай бұрын

Why not simply open the transfer port for more power?????? You didn't even show what the difference was 🤣🤣🤣

Thank you for the information James

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

You're welcome

This is an awesome airgun for the money. Ordering the .22 tube version in wood stock in January of 2024 to replace my Nova Vista Liberty which still to this day is one of my most accurate PCPs and it holds its own with many of my high end airguns, however it is getting worn out. I do hope the barrel in my Liberty fits the Aveng X because I hit the freaking barrel lottery with that gun. It will hold a penny at 75 yards with 18.13s in no wind. 285$ back in the day! Thanks for the info bud. Happy holidays.

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

👍

GREAT and information video as always.

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

off topic.......Merry Christmas to you and yours.

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

Merry Christmas to you too!

👍👍 my friend ! Merry Christmas !! 🎄🧑‍🎄

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

Merry Christmas

Hi help please i see you have a phone what app give the fps reading please help

I just got the new beeman .22 cal underleaver. It's a blast. Very nice little rifle. Geez. It's LOUD !! MOST DEFINATLY HAVE TO GET A SUPPRESSOR ON IT REAL SOON. NOT BACK YARD FREINDLY AT ALL !! BUT STRONG. THIS THINGS A SMALL BEAST !!

Sweet .. kinda sucks that this reg wont go below than 1900 ish. Regardless though, i did get 80-90 shots in .177 with the tube version set at 2000. 1 1/4 in on HS, 13.4’s at 880 fps. Like said you have to have this tuned right or you will lower FPS as the tank empties. Set right only the first few shots will be a little high but the rest will stay 25 cal i have it at 2500 reg, 3 in on HS. Shooting 29 grain JTS’s at 870 FPS.

Brother thank you so much for your video's, I have learned a bunch from you. I am just getting back into Airguns after a 45 year absence. i just purchased an Aveng X and can't wait to start my journey. i am interested if your suppression system you made for the avenger works with the Avenge X.

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

I haven't designed an internal baffle system yet, but I did make a full size moderator as you seen in this video

@jimmyjones6994

6 ай бұрын

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS have yu seen any issues with barrel harmonics. And what is your price on the moderator

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

No I haven't seen anything, testing poi shift everything with no movement and I'll have a video soon on the moderator

@jimmyjones6994

6 ай бұрын

Thank you this was a very informative video.@@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

Thank you

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

Welcome!

Looks like it was set up for the 34gr from the factory. With the transfer port on high of course. Or, slugs.

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

It's only rated 895fps with 25.4gr....hi or low transfer doesn't matter cause velocity wouldn't increase after 2.5x hammerspring turns inward means pressure is too much at 2400psi reg for the hammerspring that is shared between all calibers....definitely didn't design the Avenge X properly especially not changing the hammerspring every caliber

@heithwatkins

6 ай бұрын

@@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS I'll let you know when I get mine. I'll probably get the Bullpup 177cal though. Then change caliber if I need to. Crazy as it seems, all I've been shooting lately is my HW30S 177cal. It's PCP accurate at 25 yards.

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

@@heithwatkins there ya go!

Hammer spring in this gun sucks. 2nd broken spring. First randomly with the 177 and 2nd full power shots with the 22.

You've used the Avenger a lot, Just curious to know, which one is better in your opinion, In terms of accuracy and versatility.

@raymondmorales8252

6 ай бұрын

I already have three Avengers one first gen wood stock in .22 cal and two others new Avenge-X classics another .22 and a .25 cal from my personal experience the .25 cal is more accurate than my others two smaller .22 cal no matter what type of pellets and tune I use.

@Top10GameplayTrailers

6 ай бұрын

@@raymondmorales8252 Thank you, that's good to know.

amazing!!

I just got a air avenger x tac. For the past to night it loses all its pressure. Is that a leak issue

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

Yep

Cool video, I just got my first PCP rifle, Air Arms S410.. it feels a bit like a toy compared to my Air Arms TX200 mk3.. maybe I just need to get used to it.. I'm from Scotland.. so we need to watch power levels or the Police will kick down your door 🤣🤣 I know that sounds pathetic but your in serious shit if your gun is above 12.. but cool video I do appreciate the time you put into it and I've learned a lot.. so Peace, and love to you and your family and have a happy Christmas and a great new year... 👌🤘👍

Is it really creep? Is it really creeping up, or is it not refilling to its set pressure? When it "creeps" up, it may be filling to the pressure it's really set to. The rest of the time the regulator isn't completely refilling quickly as it should. My Robert Lane regulator merely quivers between shots; it's always at it set pressure as long as the reservoir pressure is greater than what the regulator is set for. That's my interpretation of Avenger regulator poor performance.

Hello. James. Merry Christmas. I'm getting a. Beeman .22 cal. Underleaver. Sunday. Going to be. a great weekend !!!

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

Merry Christmas have fun!!

Dude..... Lowering your fill pressure isn''t going to increase your speed.... Duh. And fill pressure is NEVER going to influence speed in a REGULATED airgun. Set reg to about 2500 psi. This is too high for .22, but great for .25 Set transfer port setting to High (duh again). Now increase hammerspring tension until desired velocity is reached. (I'd leave it at max minus 1 1/2 turn or so. 850 to 880 fps is a good speed for .25). Now fill up gun to max pressure. This wil NOT I repeat NOT decrease your pellet speed, since this is a REGULATED airgun. People, this is probably a very nice fellow, meaning well and all, but not too smart on airguns alas... Happy Holidays. Happy shooting.. Do yourself a favor and buy an AvengeX.

@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS

6 ай бұрын

Tell me you don't know pneumatic systems without telling me lol

@steveinla8963

6 ай бұрын

I think he's demonstrating how to find the best pressure to set the regulator to for that specific weight pellet, and that specific hammer spring, at his specific altitude. I believe his next step is to set the regulator to that 2000psi value. When he lowers the reservoir pressure below the regulator set pressure, he's taking pressure off of the valve stem making it easier for the hammer and hammer spring to open the valve. That's giving him more adjustment range that he didn't have at the higher regulated pressure. That higher regulator pressure made it more difficult to open the valve stem thus exhausting the firing chamber pressure through the transfer port.

@petergambino2129

5 ай бұрын

BINGO! excellent informed comment!@@steveinla8963

@johnsparkman2872

2 ай бұрын

I don't think thjs guy knows the difference between fill pressure and regulated pressure,