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@user-hh3lg4ro4g

Жыл бұрын

what size are those spokes ?? what gauge is that ??

@animecontent520

11 ай бұрын

Top Rated, it only scratches the hell out of your wheels

@rmatvmc

11 ай бұрын

@@animecontent520 What scratches your rims?

@clintusmaximus

3 ай бұрын

what torque settings

I still come back to this video as a refresher to this day. I’ve built 6 excel wheels just reminding myself of the basics thanks to RMATV and they’ve all been bullet proof. Thank you 🙏🙏

Wheelsmith's Tip 101 (especially if you are having issues once up to tension): Once the wheel is brought up to tension it will start getting more difficult to fix mistakes made many turns back. At this point it can help to start LOOSENING spokes to true the wheel, vs tightening. Use the fork wrench to check the tone (sound) of spokes where your are needing adjustment on both sides, find the highest pitch spoke (most tight) and you may find that all that was needed is 1/4 to 1/2 turn of loosening adjustment to bring run-out into compliance due to the over tight spoke. For-instance, an adjustment needed to the left side (touching on the right guide), can be as simple as an over tight spoke on the right side. Complex explanation to a simple problem, but it really helped me. After the over tight kinks are worked out, bringing all spokes up to torque spec within run-out specification will be much easier.

@rmatvmc

8 жыл бұрын

Cool! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. Appreciate it!

@FUCKYOUTUBE123

3 жыл бұрын

I have a yz 85 and its pretty bad, but i dont have all stuff required to take wheel off etc.. So i was wondering if you knows if its possible to do it like this video but without removing the tire from the bike

@RichardAristarchovas

2 жыл бұрын

@@FUCKKZread123 definitely possible just let the air out and cross your fingers so hopefully you avoid punctures... I know I did

I've reviewed and tried several other methods from KZread. This one is the very best and my wheels turned out great. I'm a subscriber now.

This is all new to me, every street bike I own has mag wheels. I'm researching this because I laid down my wife's Chinese dirt bike and broke 9 spokes. She won't let me live it down till I fix/replace the rear wheel.

once you think you have it completed take a flat punch and a hammer and smack the end of the spoke at the seating end in the hub. Many times they are not completely seated (we're talking a couple of thousands of an inch here). This normally will loosen quite a few of the spokes. Re-tighten.....

It's not every fourth spoke, but every third. You're counting the one you tightened but you shouldn't. ;) great video!

For a newbie this is an excellent video, clear and concise instructions! Well done guys, thanks!

Thanks for the great videos. Was able to do mine inside 2hrs and saved cash and learned something new.

Rocky Mtn Atv is awesome. I work at a dealership and I still find myself buying a fair amount of items from rocky Mt

rockymountainatv is where its at been a fan for years

@rmatvmc

8 жыл бұрын

+D-Block That's awesome to hear!

Best rim trueing video on KZread. Thank you

@rmatvmc

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!

Top tip I learnt after doing this video, measure your distance between the fork stanchions and the wheel so you get your offset right! Offer it up to the bike dry before you finish up

thank you so much for the video totally confused as shit till I found this video, another reason buy all my stuff from you guys so much good info ty

Man. Good stuff. Thanks! No shop nearby.

Great video!!!! Thanks, just laced and trued my first wheel!!

Thank you guys.... Very helpful.

@rmatvmc

9 жыл бұрын

edward hely Good to hear! Thanks.

@Tixoxod102

9 жыл бұрын

Rocky Mountain ATV MC +1 thank You from russians!)

@rmatvmc

7 жыл бұрын

Spasibo tixoxod102

I guess I could true my wheel mounted on the bike right? I just need to rig up a 'pointer'

@koreymiller26

5 жыл бұрын

Sir Justonian i did one yesterday mounted on the bike. I’ve done them on stands and mounted on bikes and a stand is definitely handy but as long as you have a good reference point for the rim vertically and horizontally and pay extra attention to detail then truing and wheel mounted on a bike works fine. Also from my experience I highly recommend a spoke torque as seen in the video and adding never seize or something to the nipples before lacing up the spokes. Makes the world of difference in longevity.

@MOBStreet83

4 жыл бұрын

@@koreymiller26 But when you do this on the bike, how do you know the spoke isn't sticking through the nipple to far? If you do, you could chance that spoke going through the rim band puncturing the tire!

@koreymiller26

4 жыл бұрын

MOBStreet 83 what I’ve always done after I have my spokes made up by hand I tighten each one just a turn until They’ve all become snug and while doing this I’m referring to my reference point and truing my wheel as I go and after all is said and done the best way would be to finish it all up with a spoke torque wrench and after each ride I always put wd-40 on each nipple and go back over each one with the torque wrench to keep everything tight and true. I’m not by any means saying this is the best way buts always worked for me. If you have the proper spokes for the rim and your pattern right and the rim is true there shouldn’t be any issue with the spokes poking through the nipples into the rim.

@koreymiller26

4 жыл бұрын

MOBStreet 83 and btw the absolute worst thing you can do is over tighten your spokes that’s why the spoke torque wrench is so handy and I’ve used this same technique with the wd-40 on new bikes also and always had good luck

@galehess6676

4 жыл бұрын

@@SirJustonian let the air out prior to adjusting, maybe even break the bead and use some fluid to loosen the tire bead friction.

Really helpful video! Just built two wheels for the first time using this as a guide.

Thanks for the vid guys, I just took the vibe out of my sporty bars 😁

thanks for the video, this is exactly what i needed.

@rmatvmc

10 жыл бұрын

Cody Dawe You bet, thanks for watching!

The video makes no mention of dish or offset. With the setup shown how do you accomplish or measure keeping the rim in the center. Is it supposed to be centered?

@ryanlester761

5 жыл бұрын

I am looking for this info aswell.

@stimpsonjcat26

4 жыл бұрын

I know it is an old post but most rims with proper spokes will end up close to the proper offset. The manual usually tells you what the offset should be for your bike.

Cheers buddy, just watched the build video, now watching this one 😊👍👍🛵

great channel and store... I keep coming back to both!

@rmatvmc

10 жыл бұрын

nomdeguerre13 Awesome! Thank you for the compliment and we appreciate your business

Nice tutorial thank you very much.

Would be nice if you demo how you centred the rim on the hub. Do some wheels require a specific offset?

Such a solid video!

I think i may have noticed why my wheel is so difficult to true. even though its brand new, it looks like one side has a bit of a bend. even though its never been riden on. im not sure if it was damaged in shipping or what. but its been too long to return it. just been sitting in my closet for the last 7 months. i guess theres no choice but to run it.

Hi .Great help to do it the correct way. Thanks

O.K....does that mean the hubs will self center when all spokes are at same or approx tension and they have approx same note when struck with wrench.I had a dual sport wheel laced for me and tire rubs on one fork,when tapping spokes with a screw driver noticed spokes on opposite side of rub were noticeably lower note.

Torque spec mentioned several times but no indication or recommendation on what the specification is or where to find it if the manufacturer doesn’t provide it

Wow fair bit of work on two wheels , spose that’s one of the reasons why wheels are not cheap

man i wanted to do this, bought this true stand and i lost the patience for it. after loosening my spokes a ton of times from restarting i think my wheel is probably messed up lol.

Awesome video, keep up the great work guys. I'm recommending your channel to all my riding mates. Keep on, keepin on.

@rmatvmc

10 жыл бұрын

Slobodan Vukcevic Thank you very much! If you'd like to see any other instructional or product spotlight videos be sure to let us know!

I need to shifty my rim over 1 millimetre to the right. How do I do this? Like move the entire rim over off the hub.

@rmatvmc

9 жыл бұрын

xWOOLYxMAMMOTHx You'd want to refer to min. 2:30 in this video. It demonstrates how to move the rim one way or the other.

Why are your tusk brand rims on backorder until 2030?

This video was really helpful.

Is it possible to do this on a wide size wheel? like for example a 140, a 180...? where to buy (if yes) the wider rim? do you sell them?

So what's the point of torquing each spoke to spec after you made these adjustments? I dont get it

What is the torque spec for Tusk spokes. Do I just follow my manual. That's basically 32 in/lbs.

What torque do you set the torque wrench to?

@rmatvmc

2 жыл бұрын

You will want to check the manual for your specific bike because spoke torques vary greatly. You will hear 48 in. lbs. as the industry standard that a lot of people use but proper spoke torque can be anywhere from 20 in. lbs. to almost 60 in. lbs.

@matthill263

2 жыл бұрын

@@rmatvmc thanks, it's for a Chinese made ebike hub motor so I suspect it will be impossible to find out. I think it's probably over engineered for it's purpose so hopefully tightening it to 48 in lbs will be sufficient.

How often should you true your dirt bike wheels? And I'm guessing you can't do it with tires still on? I would think the tires could have inconsistencies that throw off your readings.

@rmatvmc

10 жыл бұрын

Ryan Griffing Truing your wheels is something that obviously gets done whenever your are re-lacing a wheel, or replacing a spoke set or hub. After the wheel has been properly trued, maintaining that wheel becomes important in order to keep the wheel true. Tightening your spokes before each ride is going to keep them tight, which in turn will keep your wheel straight. As long as you're properly maintaining your wheels you shouldn't have problems with your wheels coming out of true. If you do let your spokes loosen spokes up, that's when you wheel is most likely to come out of true and that's when you'll need to dismount the tire and re-true the wheel. It's more of a case by case scenario. For help with maintaining your wheels you can refer to our How To Tighten The Spokes On Your Motorcycle If you have any other questions let us know! Thanks for watching

Hi when you start with the wheel slighly loose and go round each spoke 1/4 turn until they seat does that mean continue turning on the seated aswell as slightly loose not seated spokes? Or does it mean every one until all seated regardless of Whether some are already seated and getting tighter?? Really appreciate your help in this, cheers Simon.

Hey thanks for this just filled my cart on your website with all theegoodies!

@rmatvmc

5 жыл бұрын

That's what we like to hear!!! Glad it helped you out.

Could this be the reason why a part of my new tire isn't sealing and going into the rim ? I had a company put a few spokes (around 5) and now I got a weird side ways ride to it and there's like a half foot of tire that's going into the rim ?

Should we not use antisize on each threaded part of the spokes to begin with...?

@rmatvmc

8 ай бұрын

Yes, you'll want to use anti-seize on the threads of the spokes.

Can anyone tell me what what bearing it is used on the tusk are they 608 bearing (skateboard)? Someone gift me without the bearings, since they all broke down and couldnt serve anymore purpouse.

@rmatvmc

9 жыл бұрын

***** You can most likely make a skateboard bearing work. The objective is to use a bearing big enough to keep the axle rod up high enough to clear. You do not want any rubbing or contact with the frame of the truing stand. Let us know if you have any other questions, thanks for watching!

If you torque all the spokes to the same spec shouldn't it be relatively trued up

@thinkdunson

8 жыл бұрын

+Stephen Svetz in terms of statistical probability, sure, it's possible, but practically speaking, no it won't even be close. it may LOOK close, but you'll feel it immediately if you try to ride without truing it. (i'm assumed you meant, after lacing a completely new set of spokes. if you meant simply tightening existing spokes in place, then it's more likely to be ok. still not guaranteed though.)

@arturosanchez6554

8 жыл бұрын

Each size; lenght and girth, of spoke have a predetermined tension at wich they should work, if you have the right spokes for a determined set of hub and rim, you should be able to just set the spoke at the tension for wich it is designed at the rim; if it doesn't have any defects, should be completley true. At least, this is true in my experience with road bikes and mountain bikes, and since it's the same system the same should be true for motorbikes.

@rmatvmc

8 жыл бұрын

@Stephen Svetz You're still going to see some high and low spots and side to side run out. They need to be torqued every 3rd spoke after the first spoke has been tightened.

@susanbarbier5053

6 жыл бұрын

No, it’s possible that the hub can be off center and still the spokes can be properly torqued.

Great VIDEO GUYS!! Thanks sooo much!

Great channel! Keep up the awesome work and cant wait to see more!

@rmatvmc

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Stay tuned for new videos every month

Thank you for the knowledge!

good afternoon !!? can explain to me one question, please? the two rim-side have to match? or have to be a side bigger than the other? the left side has to be equal to the right side? or has to be well, different ?? thank you so much !! liked, video !!!!

@IDontAShitGive

9 жыл бұрын

Can you speak english?

@arturosanchez6554

8 жыл бұрын

I imagine you are talking about the fact that your wheel; I'm guessing, is not centered in the stays of your bike. Both sides should be the same "size"

thank you guys, this video really helps. Can you please tell me what is an average tightening torque is for 18", 19" 21" Stainless spoke set, with Aluminum nipples would be? (roughly)Also, ""Excel"" Spoke/nipples sets have different design head(their set comes with their own special tool), that a regular style spoke ranch that you are using in this video, will not work on their nipples. in that case, how would you torque them?(any suggestions?) Again, thank you for all you guys help making this awesome and helpful video. It was a breeze putting the wheels together and getting it trued.

Most people don't have these tools!

Do you need wheel weights to balance it as well?

@rmatvmc

5 жыл бұрын

Good question. Generally on a dirt bike wheel weights are not needed, however, if you have a dual sport or take your bike at higher speeds and you notice they are out of balance, weights would be a great solution. Thanks for watching!

How do you true up a wheel that needs to have an offset (dishing)? For example, the XR250 front wheel.

@galehess6676

4 жыл бұрын

one side, then the other, 1/4 turns loose / tight on the other side, then check torque and go slow

This video was great. Thank you!

@rmatvmc

8 жыл бұрын

+Mar'Taja Jackson You're welcome.

I have quite a lot of loose spokes on my Yamaha Virago 535. Since I am especially in need of the use of my bike for the next week I am going to tighten them as best I can without taking the wheel off to true it. If I keep my eye on them every time I go out (usually 6 - 8 miles a day on tarmac roads) will I be alright? I think they have been loose for a while but I have only been riding a proper bike with spokes for a year so I didn't really realise the problem until a friend went out on it and said "I'm surprised you're not dead" Cheers.

@rmatvmc

9 жыл бұрын

CptFriggerJizz If you can, i would lift your motorcycle up with a jack so you can rotate the wheels off the ground so no weights being applied to the wheel. Then torque your spokes according the pattern we demonstrate here in this video. Refer to your service manual for torque specs for your machine.

Uhhh what if the spoke sticks out the other side of the rim a little

Hi, I’m intending to get a Tusk torque spoke wrench to have a go at D.I.Y. Could you advice what’s the force advisable for ex; supermoto, dirt bike and street bike. I was told that 45-48 pound of force is sufficient.

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

Every wheel manufacturer will have their own specs for torque. Do you have your manual still? While most dirt bikes are around the 40-50 in/lbs range, they all vary slightly and I can't say the same for street wheels.

Strange the BMW manual says tighen all spokes to 6nm!

Hey can you tell me how long it should take to do this job?

I've got a front tusk wheel for a 2014 KTM 500 XC-W I'm replacing the rim. What would be a good torque spec for the spokes on these Tusk rims?

Would it be necessary to loosen all spokes on a stubborn slightly used wheel to get it back to true?

@kaidenmarthaler6017

2 жыл бұрын

Only if it's got a lot of resistance on the spoke when you tighten it. Otherwise your probably fine 🙂

Thanks for the info guys!!!

Hi thanks for info, if your checking a used wheel would it be a good idea to loosen the spokes first and grease the threads

Wr 450f yamahas with the stock brand of wheels with a 60 rims in black would be nice..

is there a way to do it even if the spokes stripped

@eier69

2 жыл бұрын

2:30 oo yeah and my pit bikes wheel spins like an inch to each side how dangerousis that

@kaidenmarthaler6017

2 жыл бұрын

I would say replacing the spokes is your best bet. You'll have a hard time tightening a stripped spoke nipple

I have an older street bike rim that the spokes protrude past the nipple into where the rubber strip will go. Is this normal or do I have some wrong spokes. Could you file/grind the spoke end flush or will the rubber strip protect the tube enough? Hope this is clear, thanks

@arturosanchez6554

8 жыл бұрын

The size of the spoke or nipples or both is wrong for the rim and hub you have.

@btm240

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your update. I figured as much and luckily the seller was completely cool and let me return the wheel with no issues. I went ahead and bought a new repop and everything is good to go. Thanks again.

@DrMrSavagehenry

8 жыл бұрын

I know this is an old post, but it is common for spokes to be long once a wheel is brought up to tension. This means long in millimeters, and yes it is VERY common to grind the over long spokes flush with the face of the nipple that the rim-strip faces. This is normal.

Just bought this balancing stand, how do I adjust the pointer for truing?

@rmatvmc

5 жыл бұрын

You can see us adjusting the pointer at 2:16, just turn the bolt on the front of the pointer and it'll loosen up allowing you to move it wherever you need. If it's on there tight, you may need to use an hex wrench.

You leave sprocket and rotors on when truing?

@rmatvmc

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

Nice vid, been helpful!

what happens if you never got your wheel trued when you re-spoke your rim? Will this hurt the bike or the way it rides?

@smackomaticleftright8468

7 жыл бұрын

want to feel what high speed wobble is like? just ride with untrued wheels, trust me you don't want to experience it

I wish I could rent one of those stands you used

@kaidenmarthaler6017

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think their terribly expensive. A good investment for sure

Love how your thumbnail is a rear wheel but you lace a front wheel.

@rmatvmc

7 жыл бұрын

Technically it's the same process for both, but good eye there Naasko595!

@Naasko595

7 жыл бұрын

Rocky Mountain ATV MC I thought generally the rear wheel had 2 different sized spokes?

@illhaveanother4365

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone's glad you love it. Congrats

Excellent video! Thanks!😃 What are some typical torque values for ADV motorcycle wheels?

@rmatvmc

4 жыл бұрын

The torque spec for spokes will vary greatly depending on the size of bike and the wheel, but typical spoke torque settings will usually be between 20 and 60 in. -lbs.

No mension of offset?

Do you true with the wheel bearings in? Does it matter? Thanks!

@kaidenmarthaler6017

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Leave the wheel bearings in when you true. Without them the wheel won't seat into the stand

Thanks this helped a lot :)

really good explaining!, got back on the crf450 and half the spokes on the rear wheel are complettly slack? bad rim?

@rmatvmc

9 жыл бұрын

NightRider66 Is this the first ride after your trued the wheel?

@nightrider6660

9 жыл бұрын

Rocky Mountain ATV MC I haven't trued the wheel yet but am hoping to do so when i get a torque wrench soon to do it properly just hope it sorts it out!

@rmatvmc

9 жыл бұрын

NightRider66 Having loose spokes doesn't necessarily mean your wheel is bad but loose spokes will make it more likely to bend or break your wheel during riding. With some of the spokes being completely loose I would start by re-truing the wheel. A regular, cheap spoke wrench will do the trick to begin with and you can upgrade to a spoke torque wrench later on. I would highly recommend staying off the bike until you get the spokes snugged up to avoid ruining a wheel.

Maybe I missed it, but what's the torque spec on the niples?

@aaronthiessen1922

3 жыл бұрын

The service manual will tell you

@Nico3dd

3 жыл бұрын

@@aaronthiessen1922 says 3nm 🤷🏻‍♂️ they were all more than that 🤣🤣

Hi there,do u fix motorcycle wheels with spokes?

@rmatvmc

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry but we do not work on machines here.

How often should you do this?

Good video but the music is distracting. We don't need it!

The problem l see is you don't see the rims l want on your site.

@rmatvmc

6 жыл бұрын

*Chris Cardoza* what rims/wheels are you wanting for your bike? What bike do you have?

I was thinking of purchasing the tusk wheel set off your guys website for my 2010 Crf 250R. I'm from Ontario Canada, would I have to pay for shipping? And also does the wheel set come with the spikes tightened to spec?

@subaerooo

8 жыл бұрын

Spokes*

@zane4964

8 жыл бұрын

yes

@rmatvmc

8 жыл бұрын

Yes you would have to pay shipping up to Canada. Our Free Shipping offer only pertains to the 48 U.S. States. Spokes come torqued ready to go!

@bobeleksen8386

8 жыл бұрын

just use the bike

But l don't think they make s 18 inch rim though for the back.

@rmatvmc

6 жыл бұрын

The stock wheel size for your WR450F is an 18". So, if you are looking for an OE Yamaha replacement rim you would want to check out our Yamaha OEM Parts Finder on our website. There is also a video on how to use and navigate our Yamaha OEM Parts Finder: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iImExstrl9jZj5s.html Here is the link to our Yamaha OEM Parts Page: www.rockymountainatvmc.com/oem-parts/Yamaha

Couldn’t you just start by torquing all spokes to spec and then make adjustments?

@rmatvmc

6 жыл бұрын

Mike, that is a big no no! You can threat all the spokes into the nipples until there are a few threads exposed, but from there, you want to go at most 1 full turn (i'd say even a half turn) on every fourth spoke. You need to keep everything even otherwise your wheel will be very out of true and it's EXTREMELY hard to get true once it gets really bad. Most times, riders end up just loosening all the spokes and starting over. Plus, once the spokes are torqued, you wouldn't want to tighten them any more than that even though you may need to to get the wobbles out. It's time consuming bust trust me, it's worth taking the time.

3:50 In the video, you tighten every 3rd spoke, not every 4th. The crucial bit is "skip 2 spokes" to alternate wheel side. **1** 2 3 *1* 2 3 *1* 2 3

Not sure, but ain't u supposed to measure where the hub sits or doesn't it matter ?

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

On some bikes it matters, while others will just require it to be centered. Refer to your bikes' manual for more info.

is it possible to over tighten your spokes

@Iceman240Z

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, see 6:45 in the video.

You guys have a shop in Southern Cali?

@rmatvmc

5 жыл бұрын

We do not unfortunately, we're based in Utah where we have our main warehouse. Southern California sounds pretty nice though! Sorry we couldn't help you with that but thanks for watching!

I was going to ask why you weren't using a dial indicator, but then you used a dial indicator.

5:20 if you have a hop

what if the nipples get tightend but never set on the rim

Nice video. Except you weren't tightening every "4th" spoke. You were tightening every third spoke.

@rmatvmc

9 жыл бұрын

Jim Sowers Its every 4th spoke. The first spoke we tightened counts as 1 spoke, so you would just need to move forward 3 more spokes making it the 4th spoke. Makes sense? Let me know if you have any questions, thanks for watching!

@JimSowers

9 жыл бұрын

Rocky Mountain ATV MC You guys are great with parts, but not so much with math. In this video you are skipping TWO spokes and moving to the THIRD spoke after the last one tightened. See at 3:53. You are tightening spokes 1, 4, 7, 10 -- which means every THIRD spoke. Each time you tighten one, then skip TWO to get to the THIRD. answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091214150358AAisJpl

@sledsrme

8 жыл бұрын

Do the math buddy he said you would count 1 therefore 1,2,3,4 which is 4...4,5,6,7 which is 4 get it now

@bbjoe666

8 жыл бұрын

+sledsrme It's ironic that you tried to correct Jim, and by doing that highlight where you get it wrong. It's not a math problem, it's a language problem. 4,5,6,7... If you just tightened nr 4, then you count 5, 6 and tighten nr 7. You count 8, 9 and tighten nr 10. That is the the third spoke each time. 7-4=3; 10-7=3 and 4-1=3 Every third spoke.

@JimSowers

8 жыл бұрын

+BJ Thank you BJ, I thought I was losing my mind with these guys ;-)

Do you ship to the uk?

@rmatvmc

5 жыл бұрын

Some manufacturers don't let us export their parts out of the US so it depends on the parts you're wanting but yes, we do ship to the UK!

@melaniewilson8508

5 жыл бұрын

I’m looking to purchase the tusk torque wrench you use in your videos, many thanks

If I have to buy a machine like this to do this, then it's cheaper to just buy new wheels.

@rmatvmc

2 ай бұрын

165 or both truing stand and spoke torque wrench vs. 200+ a new wheel 🤔

if spoke tension determined a true wheel.. a truing stand would be a useless tool

Why does he call it a ‘whirrel’ and not a wheel