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A friend or two? Looks like I’m out😂

@peternufc1981

5 жыл бұрын

Same ha

@SD-ir1vf

5 жыл бұрын

Same here

@bradleypumba

3 жыл бұрын

Covid got me out lmao

@dirtvlogz7180

3 жыл бұрын

Same😂

@Swinginspanners

2 жыл бұрын

Same 🤦‍♂️ why does nobody have friends yet everyone wants one lol

When making adjustments it is a good idea to have the rear wheel off the ground, doing this takes some of the spring pressure off the preload adjusters which makes them easier to turn

I loved this. I am a suspension tech for a living....I couldn't find a single thing wrong with this video. So, what I'd like to know is...Why the 91 thumbs down??...Hmmm.

@dylangerber6780

4 жыл бұрын

They shop on motosports instead of rockymountain atv 🤣

@bonezbeatzz2479

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe cause of the rider looking like he wants to kill himself lol

@dji127

4 жыл бұрын

@@bonezbeatzz2479 Gavin does not look impressed

@galuhrichata6148

4 жыл бұрын

And it’s 112 now... crazy ain’t it?

@lennonfuller8445

4 жыл бұрын

@@galuhrichata6148 now 115

Quick tip! Usually after the lock nut is off you can grab the spring and spin it. For me it's easier than the punch. Great video!!

@rcranch3838

3 жыл бұрын

Wow this tip is gold.

@benwan5425

3 жыл бұрын

@@rcranch3838 rubber grip gloves and some wd40 don’t get the wd on the glover or spring just the threads if possible

@rcranch3838

3 жыл бұрын

@@benwan5425 nice thanks man will try it next time. I have learned so much from KZread haha it’s awesome.

@benwan5425

3 жыл бұрын

@@rcranch3838 forgot to mention use a air compressor on the threads to blow out any dirt i learned that the hard way one time 😅🤦🏻‍♂️ then lube the shit outta the threads when you’re done (you’ll thank yourself when you have to do it again)

a million dam suspension vids and finally one that is straight forward and simple, thanks

Absolutely great video dude! very in depth, gets straight to the point and makes it as simple as It can be. Keep it up guys! I watch this Channel quite a lot and I’m refreshing my mind a lot on these vids as I haven’t ridden dirt bikes in years! ❤️

Thanks for this. The descriptions and videography were really clear.

Good video... YOU DID GREAT GAVIN! I loved how excited Gavin looked. 😁

The rocky mountain vids are so good!! Thanks guys!

@rmatvmc

4 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped out! Thank you for watching!

Great video. Very well presented. Thank you.

Love these videos. Keep em coming

Another great info video, thank you very much again. Great info.

On KTM's just loosen that bolt and use a preload tool like the ohlins one that old KTM's used to come with. I have a few laying around from old bikes that finally came in handy! Thanks for all these videos and info, you guys rock!

I know this is old but thanks Chase and Charles for the tip and tech information. Along with you two and my manuals, I can’t go wrong. 🤞🏻👍👊🙌🏼

Super helpful thank you 😊👌🏻👍 Such a good presenter 👌🏻

@rmatvmc

5 жыл бұрын

We appreciate your comment and glad it helped! Thanks for checking it out!

Great vid on Sag! Can you make a vid on how to choose the right shock spring for your weight? And a vid for fork spring spring for your weight? You guys are awesome! My riding has greatly improved from your vids! Bike set up is HUGE important regardless of riding level! Thank you!

In addition to marking the lower lock nut for rotation, if you know the pitch of the thread you can accurately determine how much it has traveled when rotated. Example: If the pitch is 2.0 mm, every degree of rotation will move the spring .0055mm. Its the same principle that a micrometer uses to accurately measure thickness

Boss. Perfectly explained. Thanks.

Very clear instructions - thanks.

Good vid, very helpful! Thanks!

@rmatvmc

7 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped ya out! Thanks ~Vinny

@scottarmstrong8315

4 жыл бұрын

op

Good video. Very well explained 👍

awesome - brilliantly presented

Nice. Helpful video. Thanks!

@rmatvmc

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching *Bill Smith!*

Super easy to understand! Thanks

So well done. Thank you.

Great Job guys!

I bought the motion pro sag 2 tool. The measuring tape can be really inconsistent. The video helped a bunch.

@rmatvmc

6 жыл бұрын

Glad we could help you out! I use the motool digital sag scale personally and I loved it.-Chase

Good video on a hard to understand topic!

Awesome vid keep up the good work

Love the video, wish you had a shop closer to where I live. Took my newly acquired "mint" 85 XR350R to my local shop to setup up suspension for me. They told me to drop off and pick up at certain times. Told me I didn't need to be there or even ask me my weight. No thanks..

Thanks dude 👍👍 very easy video to follow thank you 🤘🤘

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

Awesome video thanks!

Great video! Thank you!

Nice information dude

Hey guys. Another great video. Just curious have you thought about making a channel dedicated to "how to" vids.

Great vid thank you.

@rmatvmc

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Nice clear vid .cheers .wanted to know more about the settings on my shock .

@rmatvmc

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking out the video! Give this video a watch if you're looking for more info on your shock settings: kzread.info/dash/bejne/m512rrOJmbXQgsY.html

Setting the sag with a new bike after brake in are i very importent. I didnt know that and my static sag (on the stand) was way wrong , i needed to tighten the spring 2 full turns in and it was a different bike to sitt on after that , way higher in the rear , and the shock suddenly started to absorbe the bumps.. Big big differens.

@rmatvmc

6 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you got it all set up correctly! Makes a big difference in performance and feel. Thanks for the comment, Christer.

Throw the measuring stick in the garbage. Every time you adjust your spring pre-load make a lap or two. Keep doing this until you find the setting that feels best to you. Assuming that 100mm is the magic setting for everyone & every bike is BS. If you just set your bike at 100mm and don't experiment, you may be missing out on something much better. Kind of like marrying the first girl that comes along.

Good job chance

What does a 2020 KLX300R call for ? Great video. 🇺🇲🤙🏼

Why do I always listen people on USA and Canada saying HUSQ-KA-VAR-NA? It’s just HUSQ-VAR-NA! Plain and simple. Just 3 syllables people not 4. Very good video and well explain

@Checkyoursix77

5 жыл бұрын

Adrian Wikander Exakt! Hur svårt kan det vara?

@IncryptDubstep

5 жыл бұрын

Idk about yall but its kinda hard for us to remove that 'ka' sound from our q's lol

@alansmith6697

5 жыл бұрын

@@IncryptDubstep Qs own a laughing out loud?

@Ryan-hr9hw

4 жыл бұрын

Damn it. Dont I feel like a dumb ass

Very helpful

I do this alone..I have a Honda crf460l.....Made a measuring tool with a wooden ruler and an aluminum one..Slotted the wooden ruler and drilled two holes in the aluminum ruler..you can figure out where easily yourself ,each bike is different..use two carriage bolts (1/4) washers and wings nuts..lube it well......Used the longer rack bolt (which is where honda manual says is the point to measure from) for the top and a bolt with tape wrapped around it to fit inside the hollow axle(manual says at the lock nut at the adjuster ,not enough different to matter 1/8?) notch/slot the top and bottom of your new ruler to sit on the bolts..hook it on the bolts and lightly tighten-so they slip easily but not drop.....sit it in on a stand to measure the longest dimension..then take the bike and lean the bar end against a wall or in my case snap-on tool boxes sit on the bike ,the ruler will compress in length..bounce on it a bit and let it settle....reach back and tighten the wing nuts. Get off the bike and put on side stand..now you have the longest and shortest.. dimensions and can adjust accordingly....cost...less than $5 and 1 hour labor..A note...You will get different dimensions each time you measure...sometimes as much as 1/2” ..being as consistent as you can will help ,but it wont make the numbers Exactly the same each time...if Im within 1/8” I think Im good..

When you were adjusting the race sag, did you loosen then tighten the bolt until you got it the correct sag? Thanks for the vid!

@rmatvmc

5 жыл бұрын

You don't need to tighten the bolt every time before you check it. Just leave the pinch bolt or locking ring loose until you've got your sag where you want it and then tighten it up-Chase

Thanks very much 😮

Hell yeah 😎👌.. perfect..

Great help thanks

@rmatvmc

4 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

@jamesbeer8038

3 жыл бұрын

@@rmatvmc thanks

As far as steering characteristics you should raise or lower the forks in the triple clamps. Set rear sag for your rear suspension preference. BTW too much sag can make the linkage progression ramp up quicker and result in a harsher ride so start with factory recommendations for static sag and consider changing spring rates if your rider sag is out of spec. and then make minor tweaks to get it were it feels right for you.

One thing-you mentioned something like "the amount of sag this model calls for". In the vintage scene, Its hard to find any sort of specification. What is a good general rule of thumb for a mono shock, linkage suspension? Long and short travel twin shocks?

Good video..

@rmatvmc

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it. Thanks for watching-Chase

Question: on dirty bikes the static and rider sag need to be checked/adjusted only on the rear shock? On sports bikes need also on the fork.

Hey guys! Great video, was wondering if you had any tips or thoughts on setting sag on a Motocross bike ('16 KX450) that is going to be converted to supermoto. Same basic procedure or should I take some different things into consideration? No jumping, just street/canyon carving for riding style.

@rmatvmc

4 жыл бұрын

It's the same process but I have no idea how supermoto guys like to set up their bags for sag. I'd search some forums to see what you can find. - Chase

@mxslick50

Жыл бұрын

A qiuck thought, since more sag=better high speed stability, I personally would start around 5mm more that the stock max sag and adjust from there. Example, if stock sag range is 95-100mm, try starting at 105mm.

Good video but whatabout the front. Is it covered in another video......

@DirtBikes_MathGarden

3 жыл бұрын

I think they have other videos on that...?

i did try it so my sag was 55.5 before and 62 without load after adjusting it did few turns out and then it went to 62.5 without load and 56.3 ?? why is that ?

Am I the only one that wants an autograph from chase

@michaelsteven1090

6 жыл бұрын

Cody Jones what a dork u are.

@borntwice4724

5 жыл бұрын

Yes

Okay ,now i understand the sag setup lol

Would you need to adjust your forks to match after adjusting your rear shock?

@kirkwilliams4942

Жыл бұрын

There is no sag setting on forks. That's more in line with setting up your front and rear suspension to match. For you weight and riding style. Sag is important because if you can't reach the proper numbers for race sag and static sag you need to change your spring rates, softer or stiffer shock spring. Suspension balance is something you have to figure out what you like. You should also set all your front and rear suspension adjusters to the "normal" settings as per your manual before setting sag. Set your clickers to normal and then work from there on compression and rebound, slow and fast.

Chase, new rider here. How often should you check sag also, from your experience keeping all gear and body weight constant how often does it change? I was thinking about doing the Motool but idk if I can justify it for one time use. As for now I'm the only one out of my group of friends who rides so I will be doing it solo but I can bug a friend if it is one and done.

@rmatvmc

4 жыл бұрын

I don't check it every ride. I'd say every 4-6 rides I'll check it. It's pretty rare for your sag numbers to change from one ride to the next unless your bike is new and the suspension is breaking in. I like to check just to make sure my set up is good. But you don't need to be like the factory guys that check their sag before every ride. The Motool is nice when you're alone but as long as you have a friend to help out every once in a while then save the money and get either the Tusk or Motion pro sag scale (when they're in stock).

I noticed your blue ruler isn't perfectly vertical, does it not have to be? Seems it would make a difference. Also is there a specific spot on the fender to measure at? I think KTM actually has a designated spot (mark) on the fender, but what of those that do not?

@rmatvmc

5 жыл бұрын

Nick, you just want to make sure that your measuring point on the fender follows the arc of the swing arm. If you're titled a little forward you'll be ok. Most importantly, you want to make sure you're consistent with where you measure each time. I recommend making a notch on your rear fender so you're always measuring the same point. - Chase

I have a 06 crf250 and I have got a screw driver and a hammer and beat the crap out of the lock nut on the rear shock and it will not budge it’s in the middle of the threads so it should have room to move a little ennything I could do??

Hi! Thanks for great video! A question ; l'm 135lb and use kx250f, my sag is 65. I can't make sag higher because the spring level is on almost max. If l lose the screw of the spring more, the spring starts to moving and wiggling. What should l do to make sag higher? Thanks.

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

You're going to have to go with a softer spring. What year is your KX250F? -Charles

@umutdegismen

3 жыл бұрын

@@rmatvmc it's 2016. Thanks for your quick reply and interest btw! 😊 I checked the spring on my bike but there is no any sign or a model number. So l don't know what kg it is. But it's stock l guess, the color is green.

I want a friend like Gavin too! :D

Hey buddy what kind of tape measure are you using? Cuz mine measure inches.

@bluezhawg2104

3 жыл бұрын

Uhhh a metric tape measure...!

Guys, thanks for the video, it's very useful! But I wanted to deduce the determination for the word sag. is it possible to call a sag a range? Sag as a manufacturer's recommended suspension compression range? A static sag is from 30mm to 45... but its a range, it is a recommended range and for a rider sag also is a recommended range. So is the sag a range first of all?

@kirkwilliams4942

Жыл бұрын

NOPE. Not a range. You can tweak to your liking + or _ a bit. A suspensions tech can help with that. But for most guys stick with what the manufacturer recommends. If the numbers don't work out then shock spring may need to be changed. Your static and race sag numbers should match your manual recommended settings. This can and will change if you have your suspension done by someone. If so, ask whomever does the work because they may have specific settings for their products. Like KREFT suspension recommends a 115 mm sag and the stock KTM manual says 110mm. Not going to matter much if you're off a bit. Also, make sure gas in the bike, and full gear. Including any water, tools and snacks and jackets you bring. You will need to change sag and check sag if your ride with a bunch of gear on sometimes and not much gear another time. Say racing verses trail riding. It makes. huge difference.

Im 5’3 145lbs,, on a 2019 yz125, barely cant touch the ground with my foot/toes so i adjust the spring higher,, do i need to do more adjustments damper etc..?

@yourefireed

4 жыл бұрын

Manny Cabico Jr no. U need to stop riding and go to school.

Thank you for the video, greatly appreciated! So from factory my 22 crf250r “static sag” is 45mm and “rider sag” is 105mm. Im a little frustrated cause I can barely tip toe the bike and I’m 5’9” tall. Not sure what to do in this situation any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!!

@rmatvmc

2 жыл бұрын

Is that tip toe with the 105mm of sag? If so, that is how it is. Bikes are tall. Some of the fastest Pro riders can barely touch the ground. Once you are up on the pegs, it shouldn't matter too much. It is better to have the suspension work properly.

@austinlourinho8652

2 жыл бұрын

@@rmatvmc It’s at 105mm of sag with me sitting in a neutral position while having my feet on the pegs, and being in full riding gear. Thank you for the response, figured I would ask and may get lucky, that maybe I was over looking something. As long as the bikes set up right I’m fine with that! Thanks again!

@austinlourinho8652

2 жыл бұрын

@@rmatvmc It’s at 105mm of sag with me sitting in a neutral position while having my feet on the pegs, and being in full riding gear. Thank you for the response, figured I would ask and may get lucky, that maybe I was over looking something. As long as the bikes set up right I’m fine with that! Thanks again!

@tobygraham7356

2 жыл бұрын

Heya you can try cutting some foam out from your seat, I personally don't like the look of having a curved seat but it will lower you a bit while sitting down or you can buy a lowering link arm, they can be a little bit pricy but that could help a little bit too. Hope this helped

If my bike is big for me, I can only get a Little bit of one foot on the ground and I am light, is I set it to the recommendation would it lower the bike and make it easy for me to touch the ground?

@cellularmitosis2

3 жыл бұрын

There may also be aftermarket shortening links for your rear suspension. Check eBay.

You set the sag on the rear spring but what about the front?..Do you do anything to the front shocks or is that what your front clickers are for

@kirkwilliams4942

Жыл бұрын

Can of worms here. Nope, no sag setting in the forks. Clickers springs and oil all can be adjusted to balance both from the rear suspicion. They need to be balanced so they work together. You'll hear riders say the like their front suspicion to ride higher in it's stroke. This is changed with springs, oil and or air. A personal preference. You do not want your forks being to soft so they dive under breaking to much. Again, totally a personal thing how you set it all up. Start with all your stock settings and work from there. If everything is to soft then your need to change spring rates front and rear.

“Your gonna need a friend or two” clicks off video

I just overhauled the rear shock on my xr650l with a stiffer spring. Is the bike sapposed to have any sag unloaded?? After getting off and only when put on the kickstand I slowly see it rise to fully extended, the forks do not Ahhh I see 9:20 static sag

Rocky Mountain atv video also !!!!!!!

I’m looking in to buying a new spring and front forks. How do I find out my spring rate?

@rmatvmc

6 жыл бұрын

I would check out race tech's website. They will ask you a series of questions about your skill level, type of riding, and weight and they will tell you what your spring rate is.

Does it matter what your rebound and compression settings are set at when adjusting sag? Sag first or reb/comp settings first?

@joejefferies6668

3 жыл бұрын

Compression and rebound first

Is it normal for my spring to move a bunch now while on the stand??

What is the stock rider sag for a Drz400e? The owners manual doesn't give a number and just says to take it to a shop instead 🙄

I installed lowering links on my DR-Z 400 and I was wondering how to set up the rear shock with these links installed? The sag has been taken out completely and I don't know where to set the spring preload for my light weight of only 130lbs. Anyone have thoughts?

I’m 15 and 5,4 I got scoliosis I shouldn’t be riding but I was thinking about getting a 250 but I wanna be able to lower it as much as it can then just grow through it the seat high on these are 37in and I got kinda short legs so I was wondering how much you could sag this thanks!

@realdeal6149

Жыл бұрын

Look into devol lowering links, they can lower the seat height close to an inch and a half.

Any advice if your bike manual does not show a recommended SAG setting? Thanks..

@rmatvmc

2 жыл бұрын

What bike do you have? In general, most bikes are going to be between 95-105mm of rider sag plus or minus 5mm. And that static sag (bike without the rider on) will be somewhere around 30-40mm of sag.

I'm 5'10" and 165 to 170lbs. I ride a 1999 yz250, I'm not sure exactly where I should put my bike but feels it sits to high when I'm not on it and get a cramp in my hip every time I get my leg over. Would it be a good idea to lower the height

@basketball7677

Жыл бұрын

Get the sag correct, you also have front suspension sag so that can contribute to the height of the bike too

Hello, will softening a dirt bike suspension makes it easier for a shorter guy? Im 5'6 and when i sat on a kx450i can only reach with one leg. Thanks

@kirkwilliams4942

Жыл бұрын

No...No and no. Just gonna make the bike much harder to ride. Try a low seat first. Some suspension companies can lower your suspension. You might need that. Bikes are so darn tall these days. I'm just over 5-9 and run a low seat sometimes.

@zerone9521

Жыл бұрын

@@kirkwilliams4942 Thanks for the reply, i'll be checking lower seats.

My RMZ 250 has 90mm static sag. How would of this effected the handling on jump's ? Cheers Joe

@kirkwilliams4942

Жыл бұрын

Sag is extremely important. You have to get it nailed before moving onto your other suspension settings.

What if your rebound and compression clickers are altered from stock settings? Does that effect setting the sag? Do I need to go and get the clickers to stock first then do this or are they independent of each other? Or do you set clickers first then sag? I can't find a definitive answer anywhere...

@kirkwilliams4942

Жыл бұрын

It's wise to set your clickers all back to stock at least when you have a new bike and are breaking in your suspension. Once everything is broken in and you've tweaked all your settings to your liking it's ok to check sag without going back to standard stock settings. Your just checking spring rate really. If it's the correct spring for your weight. If it's correct your race sag and static sag numbers should be close to what you manual says. If one or the other or both are way off or you've had to make to many turn to your preload adjuster, soft or stiff and the neuters do not work out you will need to replace your shock spring, softer or harder and work the numbers again.

Good afternoon Rocky Mountain, Can this also be done on a 2018 CB500X?

@rmatvmc

4 жыл бұрын

You can definitely use some of these tips to set your sag on your bike! There are some really good forums out there discussing the CB500X and what people found with the preload settings and how it changed sag so I would recommend checking some of those out too.

@winstonwinston8116

4 жыл бұрын

Rocky Mountain ATV MC fantastic! Thank you!

Can the seat height be adjusted so that it is lower to the ground on a 1979 YAMAHA YZ250? Please help!

@rmatvmc

5 ай бұрын

Without making modifications, there is no way to properly lower the seat height. Usually a shorter shock or lowering link would be needed. You could also look at shaving the seat foam down.

On my 09 kx 85 i can't find any nuber of how much sag i shuold have. There is a base setting of how far the tension adjuster should be from a refferens piont. The travel of my suspension is 275mm. How much should my race sag and stock sag be? It would realy help if you answered and your videos are verry god and helpful. Keep up the god work

@colebaranek4604

6 жыл бұрын

Check the manual under suspension OR read motocross action magazine. They put settings in the magazine.

When tyou set rider sag does it change free sag?

Question when you loosen the sag does that make the bike shorter?

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

In theory, yes, it will make the bike sit lower. But your peg to seat height won't change.

If you're really want to know how to set the SAG just asked my friggin wife...

@downforce6666

6 жыл бұрын

?????????

@brock6286

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@johnnyturbo8460

4 жыл бұрын

Oooooh sna sn sn sn naaaaaap! (Oh snap)

@laurasanderson1053

4 жыл бұрын

The Seg or Sagway dirt bike.

4:51 When you hear that slight knock from the bottom end.

A friend or two good thing I have my dad 😂

do you set the sag immediately after picking the bike up at the dealer? Or do you wait and break the suspension in first and then set sag?

@rmatvmc

4 жыл бұрын

You can set it and then check it again after the suspension breaks in because it will change a little. Or you can leave it for the first few rides. Up to you but I would set it first and then check it later - Chase

Chancellor looks like a young Jim halpert in this video.

I’ve just bought a kx 125 2005 model the suspension is set for 175lb rider.iam 215lb can the suspension sag be set to my weight or do I need a bigger bike?and help would be great

@rmatvmc

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, the suspension on your KX can definitely be set up for your weight!

@eyesthatseewillsee7457

4 жыл бұрын

Rocky Mountain ATV MC thank you

Would you now have to adjust the front forks height as well??

@rmatvmc

4 жыл бұрын

Adjusting the sag is only concerning the rear shock but it's a good idea to set your fork height correctly if you haven't yet. The fork tube height is really rider preference and most people will recommend making changes 2mm at a time and see how the bike handles. Lowering the fork tubes will create more stability at high speeds but at the cost of losing some cornering performance, while raising the tubes up in clamps puts more weight on front wheel which can increase cornering performance but also make bike less stable at high speeds.

@i4mCAST

4 жыл бұрын

Rocky Mountain ATV MC hey thanks man I really appreciate it

What about front suspension?

Hey so would that lower the seat hight on a brand new bike

@rmatvmc

Жыл бұрын

Adjusting sag doesn't lower or raise the bike. If you add sag, it will make the bike squat more when your sitting on it but adding a bunch of sag to lower a bike is not ideal. We sell Devol lowering links that are built specifically to lower a bike's seat height. www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/devol-lowering-link-p

CAHUILLA!!!

I bought a used dirtbike yz250f and the rear sits very low and I don’t like it how do I fix that

@rmatvmc

5 жыл бұрын

You need to take some sag out of your shock spring most likely. Loosen your locking ring and give your spring and few rotations. Have you measured your sag? You want to be right around a 100mm