I like how this perfectly encapsulates how often we spend time working on and tweaking our tools themselves 🤓

I have no intention of ever doing this yet I'm still excited for another Peter Millard video...

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂 They’ll be coming along a bit more regularly now. 👍

That's a very clever idea for clamping the rail down with the connector rods!

@rogerprice4075

2 жыл бұрын

It’s the stuff that isn’t part of the topic that is often the most valuable!

Cheers Peter. As always no nonsense, perfectly clear, concise instruction

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alan! 👍

Yep, far easier and cleaner than attacking it with a grinder!👌🏽 Good job Peter, 👍🏽

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Very true, thanks Bill! 👍👍

Wow, I did not anticipate cutting aluminium with a stock plunge saw blade! Would be interesting to see some tests about how much that wears the blade down compared to wood cutting.

Thanks again, Peter, for another instalment of the tracksaw adventures! I agree with Brereton installations; I won't be doing this myself, but very much enjoy your content.

Love that you share these little demonstrations of how to get the most from a track saw and rail system, for all budgets. Top man.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Stew! 🙌👍

I just found your channel, I'm enjoying it. I've had a Festool TS55 since 2006, I had it bought for me in Canada and sent to Japan because the Festool distributor in Japan wanted four times the list price in Canada, the same with the rails or tracks. I got sent a 1900mm track from the US, and it survived the trip and I use it today because they want about $540 US for the 1900mm rail here in Japan. The plywood here is 91cm x 182 cm for basically 3'x6' so the 1900mm rail works great. I'm finding your videos very informative. I just made a travel hard case for taking my tracks to a job site. Cheers from Tokyo! Stu

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, and welcome! Wow, I thought we paid a lot here in the UK for Festool! 😱 Never knew you had different sheet sizes there either! Fascinating, thank you, and best wishes from London! 👍

@markmall7142

2 жыл бұрын

My word taking an very expensive product and making 4 times more is taking the piss.

I passed out when you said your were going to trim a perfecty good rail.

Man of invention and inspiration Peter. Simplicity itself. Cheers mate.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks David!

I kept the anti-tipping lip on my makita rail, I just routed a groove in the base of my Dewalt tracksaw! Easy because of the aluminium base of the saw and now that one has the anti-tipping feature as well. AndI am pleased to see I only have a fraction of the play of the makita saw shown in this video.

@fazzah777

2 жыл бұрын

I think I'd rather waive the warranty of the rails instead the one of the tracksaw, but I guess yours was past it ;)

@RobinCoomans

2 жыл бұрын

@@fazzah777 On a new one for sure! But mine is pretty old, way past warranty at least ;)

@randallthomas5207

2 жыл бұрын

I guess I could try that. But Iv’ve invested in three used Festool 1040 tracks. So I’m not sure I would gain much in buying the Makita tracks. The accessory t-track on the edge of the Festool track does come in handy.

@RobinCoomans

2 жыл бұрын

@@randallthomas5207 Nice! I bought a 3m long makita rail because it was on sale and they ´stick´ much, much better than the dewalt rails, just ordered a smaller makita rail as well.

Great tip/workaround, nice bit of lateral thinking. 👍

Thanks for this. After making the mistake last year of buying a makita rail for a Parkside saw I can finally do something about it! Great tip for a bit of a niche issue.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Well, the Makita-pattern rail can be had at a great price, but the lip does get in the way of some things, so hopefully not too niche! 😂👍👍

I bought the evolution rails on sale for my Parkside saw based on your advice..Really happy with that setup!! Thx again...and for the great video

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Nice! 👍👍

Hi Peter - you made me smile yet another Friday. Thanks. Smart idea to convert a guide rail of one type into another type. I do have Mafell/Bosch guide rails. For me the trick was to visit the exhibition / fair in Germany a few times where Bosch gave away guide rails to those answering some questions and doing some things in their stand. I did that a couple of times and so I got a few Bosch rails for free. I did cut those in lengths which are easy to use. Maybe considered barbaric but when you have sufficient lengths - why not.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Never heard of any company giving away guide rails Wino - that’s a result! 🙌 👍👍

Everytime I am stuck with a wood working (or track saw) problem, I come to your channel and you never disappoint :) I got a powertec saw track(in the US) and it has the same annoying lip that gets in teh way of my Dewalt track saw. Thanks for sharing such elegant and precise solutions!

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 👍👍

@ClosetWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop Want to thank you again! I sawed my track's lip on a tablesaw and it worked beautifully!

Great tip on the Excel guide rail! I got the makita ones for around £60 each as i didn't know the excel ones existed. I personally love the angle lip on mine though, the titan saw works really well with it. I'm gonna have to check the play next time i get it out though now after seeing yours! Thanks again for a great vid Peter

Thanks Peter for the interesting video.

Good video Peter. I have the Makita track saw with 3 rails, the 39", 55" and 118". I was cutting plywood the other day and thinking geez I wish I had the 75" one, but I really didn't "need" just more of a desire. Anyway couldn't be happier with my track saw.👍

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Nice! 👌👍

When I did this today with my Festool Gide rail and TS55 the heating up of the Excel rail underneath welded the splinterguard on the Festool,rail to the Excel rail. For the next one I used a wooden spacer to hold the Festool,rail above the Excel and it was fine. Worth remembering this risk.

Great tip Peter, thanks for that!

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Martin! 👍

You're absolutely right to call out that the anti-tip mechanism on the makita saws has some play in it with the lip being of absolutely no use is a) you don't have a makita saw, b) don't make tons of bevel cuts. Having cut a rail in half for the pleasure of a KZread audience, I was really interested in this video - and now the comments. Let's see what they bring. But the important thing her is something implied which is the right to modify our tools to suit our needs. Something I'm all for!

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Karl! I’m pretty sure that when the Makita first came out it was pitched just as a way to stop the saw tipping over at the end of a bevel cut, but I can’t find any definitive reference for it. 🤷‍♂️👍

Woohoo. Thanks for the shoutout! Oh bummer to hear about the 40 euros of shipping costs. Would not have expected it to cost that much.😃 Perhaps some other Europe users may find the rails useful. 😎 Great video again Peter! I'm a bit proud to be mentioned in your videos haha!

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Stefan - and thank you! 🙌 👍

Great video, I did exactly that with an Excel HD Guide rail about a year ago(about £40 on ebay at the time, this means I can use it with the dewalt plunge saw. I've not used the Dewalt rails since. So much better. Keep up the good work.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

What next? Cardiac surgery by track saw?) I think it is possible with such accuracy Excellent performance! Cheers!

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Something like that! 😂 And thanks Vlad! 👍

@dougsaunders8109

2 жыл бұрын

They free hand with saw in Cardiac surgery. Very noisy saws with no dust extraction…..

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

I think they call it ‘suction’ 😂👍

Your ingenuity continues to entertain and impress in equal measure. Just a quick warning about aluminium dust (rather than larger bits of swarf) - it's potentially explosive! It's not unknown for static charge build-up in a vacuum system to ignite it (see KZread for some scary-fun examples). Personally, if I have a large amount of dust/swarf at the end of an operation, I'll use a dustpan and brush to collect the majority of it before retrieving the last little odds and sods with a vacuum - better safe than sorry! Also, the swarf really hurts if you stand on it in bare/socked feet - don't ask me how I know that!

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeremy! Yes, it was all swept up afterwards - and no explosions so far! 👍👍

Congrats on the imminent 150k!

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Frank - but let’s not tempt fate! 😂😂👍

Nice bit of functional engineering Pete 👌 👍

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Dan, 👍

Gracias por tu trabajo

Thank you Peter. HMB rail is a nice find. I had trouble with the proper alignment of Parkside rails. Having only one conector brings additional troubles (the joint is not sturdy).

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I’m not a fan of the ‘one joining bar’ method either! 👍

learned a lot watching this, thank you. So if I cut/grind that anti-tip lip off my Makita rail, will the festool angle stop (fs-wa angle stop) clip in and fit as it should on my makita rail??

That’s a great idea

@Peter Millard great ,thanks for your reply 👍 I and I'm sure others do really appreciate all your advice ,tips and tricks, your a diamond ,THANK YOU MATE 🙏 Cheers James

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

No worries, cheers James! 👍

Worthwhile at some stage to talk about blade tip angles (rake) for plastics and Aluminium. I have a -1 degree for Aluminium and Acrylics on my tracksaw which is a large improvement over the stock timber rakes.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I have the 52 tooth aluminium blade in my TS55 and that cuts really well in ply, but most TCT blades work decently for the occasional cut in a soft metal like aluminium, and if you need to do more than the odd cut then a specialist blade is the best bet. 👍👍

Hi Peter another great video. Could I please ask you a question when can you do a track saw review on the lumberjack track saw. Its got to be much better than the Parkside one you seem to talk about alot. Thanks

More plunge saw Gems :) oh, sorry I dragged you into a debate on tracksaw rails on facebook a couple of weeks ago. Great content as usual Peter.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂 Nonproblem - and thanks! 👍

haha that thumbnail. this track seems like a great option for only 38 clams: I do like the fact that the glide strips are on either side of the central rib compared to my evolution rails.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! That’s one gripe with the Evo rails - the down-facing T-slot at left is the other! 🤷‍♂️👍

Nice 1 Peter 👍😁

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Allan! 👍

Excellent video as usual.....I think it might be worthwhile to emphasize the need for eye protection when doing this....those sharp aluminium chips don't mix well with eyeballs!

@tristangarel-funk3236

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I was thinking that too.

Another interesting and insightful video Peter, as other's mentioned I didn't think a stock blade would cut the aluminum that nice. Do you ever have any problems with the ribbed glide strips on the cheaper rails as I have found it creates excessive wear on the saw base?

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt! No, never had any issues with the glide strips - at least, not that I’ve been aware of! Now you’ve mentioned it I’ll have to check! 😂 And yes, a TCT blade is fine for the occasional cut in soft metal like aluminium, though a higher tooth-count than the stock 24T would give a better finish! 👍👍

I took that lip off at the router table - worked well, just took the speed down.

This is a very helpful tip if I feel I need to cut that lip off my makita rails.

Hi Peter .. a bit unrelated but did you ever do the followup video you were going to make on reducing the thickness of the Bangood MFT clamps?, I have a set ordered and would love to see if you solved the problem.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Tom. I never did, no, and I’ve since given them away. Pretty sure you could cut them down on a bandsaw, but the heads aren’t solid so you’d need to fill them with something eg 2-pack resin filler. 👍

Lol @ that thumbnail. Great stuff.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

Great video! Do you have any suggestions for cheap rubber strip replacements?

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Makita is usually my go-to. 👍

What a fabulous tool hack, I love it. How about something a little more left-field; how feasible would it be to make one's own custom track, from wood? What are the time/cost benefits? Are there additional features that could be added; clamping points, spacer/offsets? How could one adapt a cheap Workzone/Parkside mini-circular saw to function as a tracksaw with a home spun wooden track saw guide rail?

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes, I made one in the Tracksaw Workshop Part 6, here - kzread.info/dash/bejne/X41hyamYaJq7qtY.html. No direct experience of those mini circular saws, but I know they have limited depth of cut, so taking 6mm off that with the track might render them a lot less useful. 👍

I've seen the HBM rails online, but another option is to order them separately from Lidl as a spare part. It's cheaper that way. German brand Güde also has a variant of this saw and the exact same rails.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know, thanks. Lidl customer service only offer 2x 700mm rail sets so you're still stuck with joining rails, and while they're excellent value, they're regularly out of stock. 👍

learn something everyday had no idea my track saw would cut allow did you need a finer blade for aluminium cutting or just the stock blade? would be worried about blade grab and kick back

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Stock blade, though a higher tooth count than the 24t in this blade would be preferable. I’ve used the stick 48t Festool blade for all kinds of quick cuts in Ali. If you do a lot, then best to get the proper blade, but for the odd cut it’s fine.

Quite interesting, though I would be inclined to do it on my milling machine (built for cutting steel, stainless, cast iron and oddly aluminium. I wonder if there's a market for modified Makita rails to make it worthwhile.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, if you have a milling machine then that’s hands-down the tool to use. The point here was to use the saw you have to do the job. 👍 Wouldn’t have thought there’d be enough margin in it to make a business out of it though!

@BensWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop Well, that was the question, and as I suspected the answer was negative. Still, I could always do my own.

Great video. Do you know where I can pick up the joining bars cheap? Thanks

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! You can get a pair for about £10 from the same place as the excel guiderail - link in the description. 👍👍

Hi Peter, super to see you on KZread again with another outstanding video. A question in and around this topic, regards Festool track saws, can other manufacturer's tracks be used with this machine or must you use a Festool track? If you do elect to use a non-Festool track, are there any downsides? Thank Peter.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lester. The Festool saw will run on most tracks apart from Mafell/Bosch, and deWalt, all of whom have gone their own way in terms of track design. The Makita tracks are generally a good-value option, especially the long rail, or the Excel rail I refer to in this video. As I mention in the vid, I did a whole other video about guiderail compatibility, might be worth a watch - link in the video description here. 👍

@laapulsford

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop Thank you Peter for replying so quickly. Very useful. Keep the videos coming - they are excellent.

Great job Pete, postage must cost some companies a lot of money, the times postage as put me off a really great deal it really suck's !!!.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brian. Yes, pain in the neck, postage. 🤷‍♂️ 👍

What's the best option for a longer scheppach saw. Do the excel rails work for these?

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, the Scheppach is really problematic - see my comments in the 'which rails work' video (link in this video's description) re the Aldi saw & rails - identical to the scheppach. 👍

Hi Peter, I have just bought the festool ts55 master cut, will you be doing a feature on it in the future ? I would be interested to see if you can find any differences worth mentioning between the master cut and the previous model Great videos as always 👍👍👍

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn’t planning to tbh, but if one turns up I’d be happy to take a look at it! 👍

Thanks for the link, very good markdown on price, and very quick delivery, hope you got referral fees

Hi Peter, I have been hooked to watching your videos recently as I was looking to buy a plunge saw to renovate my campervan. I didnt know we were neighbors untill I saw your shop tour and heard the hammersmith. I lived in Uxbridge road untill recently 😅. I purchased the TS 55 which I am pretty exited about however I have no rails. The Excel tracks makes perfect sense money wise. I would like to follow your method but one would need two track rails?! Or I could walk to your shop .. LoL 😆

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! If you want to rip full sheets you’ll need two rails, yes. The excel rails are 1500mm long as well, which is handy. Don’t forget a set of joining bars and clamps. 👍👍

@makaveli7771

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop thanks for the prompt response. I shall get 2 then or see if I can source some second hand.. a quick question regarding the TS 55. I know it is a brushed motor. Does it usually spark? Mine sparks when I stop it. It only happen above speed 3. Thanks

Hi Peter, great vid as usual. I really appreciate these tips and reviews of Aldi and Lidl tools. You saved me a lot of money, disappointment and frustration, and helped steer me to more informed tool purchases. Thank you! On an unrelated note - any idea if those Maker meets in Brentwood Wood Offcuts will start again? We met briefly at what may have been the last one before lockdown, around Feb 2020. I'd started coughing that day, and it turns out I'd caught "the sickness". No one really knew just yet quite what was going on, or what was to come. Hospitalized on oxygen for a week. I was waiting for your videos and was relieved and glad to see you hadn't also gotten ill (I hope nobody else there did either). Hope to see you there again.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter! Goodness, hope you’re OK now! I don’t think the meets will start up again at Hardwood Offcuts, and it’s really up to Paul and Simon if/when Essex Makers re-kindles, and where. Haven’t heard anything either way, I’m sorry. 🤷‍♂️👍

@peterjohnson4932

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop I'm fine now thanks! I really hope Essex Makers are able to organize something again soon. I really enjoyed that meet.

Is the Kreg tracksaw system available over there and, if so, any comments or criticism on it?

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not - I'd love to get my hands on one, but they've decided no to make them available for whatever reason. My only comment from what I've seen is that unusually, it's a 'leftie' ie the blade sits to the left of the motor - the opposite to AFAIK all other plunge saws. 👍

Great video as usual Peter, can you tell me though if my Scheppach plunge saw will fit the Makita rail?

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

I can't I'm sorry - the closest I've come to the Scheppach is the old Aldi Workzone saw, which had a few issues with other rails. 👍

@skippyab4203

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop Not to worry, thank you for the reply

Do you have to slow the saw down to cut aluminum? It didn’t sound like it.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t, no. Perhaps I should, but I generally keep the saws at 11.. 😂👍

So the makita saw fits the Excel track with no issues Peter?, could be doing with a couple new tracks.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it’s essentially identical - a complete clone. 👍👍

Hi Peter. Do you know which guide rail is compatible with a ryobi circular saw. Thanks.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

No idea I’m sorry. Wasn’t aware Ryobi made a rail-mountable saw tbh. 🤷‍♂️

Neat Peter. Have you ever done a video on your track 'accessories' please? E.g. that stop you show.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dave! No, I haven’t, but it was something I was planning to do as a follow on to my DIY MFT build. 👍👍

Hi Peter yep I second that! Allays great & useful content. what blade is good for cutting metals with the festool 160/20 ?? Thats not to pricey ,Cheers mate 👍 James London

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

I’d only recommend cutting aluminium, and then only occasionally. The stock blade works well for the odd cut, but the Festool 52-tooth aluminium blade is the one for prolonged use. Not cheap though!

@jamesbaynes4358

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop great ,thanks for your reply 👍 I and I'm sure others do really appreciate all your advice ,tips and tricks, your a diamond ,THANK YOU MATE 🙏 Cheers James

Would this mod allow festool routers to use makita track

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on the router - I’d need to check to be sure, but I think the guiderail adapter for my OF1010 works fine on Makita track without the ‘adjustment’ shown here.👍 But I would expect to it to, yes - you’re effectively making a Makita rail into a Festool rail. 🤷‍♂️👍

Hi Peter, I bought a macallister earlier in the year with two 700mm rails. Long story short the second rail got damaged beyond use from a kick back while cutting 16mm HPL ( messy underwear experience I can tell u). I didn't need any more than 700 mm since as I only do maintenance and upkeep, but a job is coming up shortly where full sheets will need to be cross cut. Is the Makita 1.4m rail good enough for comfort, or would the 1.5m be better? I can't visualise it with only one of my rails ( the other went as scrap aluminium) and clearance to start and complete the cut each end might leave the 1.4m a bit short maybe? There seems to be a pretty vast price difference between the 2 also.....for only 100mm extra aluminium. Thanks.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

The Makita rails are actually 1.5m as well, so I’d go for whatever you can get hold of at the best price. 1.4 rails are generally fine - I have a few Festool ones - but 1.5 gives that little bit of extra reach which is handy sometimes. 👍👍

@jessejameson154

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop thanks Peter

Hi Peter, given that you've cut the aluminium that way would it be possible to cut a Festool rail in half to produce two shorter rails? Cheers

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely - I did just that in the opening segment of the ‘which rails work’ video I refer to in this one - link in the description. Pretty much any TCT blade will be fine for the occasional cut in soft metal like aluminium; if you plan to do it regularly then a specialist blade would be recommended, and a finer tooth blade would give a cleaner finish. 👍

@gavintyrell8470

2 жыл бұрын

Cool! Thanks mate. Had to watch the video on silent as the kids were watching the TV that I pay for!!!!🤔😂

Peter - Is there any special consideration about the type of track saw blade to use when cutting the track? For the record, I'm planning to cut a newly purchased Kreg Adaptive Cutting System (ACS) guide track, but in my case it would be to cross cut it into two smaller sections. In your experience, is it OK to simply use the standard circular blade that most track saws come with, or should I swap it out with something expressly designed for this task?

@davey820051

2 жыл бұрын

Steve, I used my miter saw with a 12"/305mm 80 tooth blade to cut a 55"/700mm track into two shorter lengths. It cut cleanly through the aluminum and the glide strips and splinter guard with no damage. If you don't have access to a miter saw, your Kreg saw with another section of track or improvised fence clamped perpendicular to the section to be cut should work well.

@SteveinJersey1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@davey820051 Thanks Dave. I've actually got the entire Kreg ACS unit (MFT table with attached guide track), so there should be no problem making a ninety degree cut (a great system BTW). My concern was whether I would have to swap out the cutting blade to a higher tooth density blade like the one you used on your miter saw. The Kreg saw out of the box provides a 48 tooth blade and I wasn't sure if that was OK.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Steve. Pretty much any TCT bode is absolutely fine for the occasional cut in a soft metal like aluminium. If you need to do it regularly, then a blade designed for the task will be better, but a blade with a higher tooth count would also give a finer finish. 👍👍

@SteveinJersey1234

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter and Dave. This is very helpful.

I wonder if the Dewat track saw will fit the makita rails after doing this mod? Did you say it basically makes it the same as a festool rail?

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t have the DeWalt so can’t say for certain, but it should fit, yes; the Makita & clones are effectively identical to the Festool pattern rail, apart from the little lip. 👍

@S.JCarpentry

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop thank you. Makita is definitely the one of the cheapest ways of getting a 2400mm rail

I dont know if you can get the Powertech rails where you are at but in USA you can get a pair off 55inch rails for $122 off Amazon. I have 3 sets of these and only on single 55inch makita track. I think there better then my Makita ones. The Powertech tracks line up perfectly with each other even tho they were all ordered different times over the course of a few years. And to top it off i went with the TSO products rail connectors that self align they they area 100percent better then the Makita and Festool connectors ive used.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

They’re not a brand that’s commonly available here, no. Intrigued about the connectors though - the ones I’be seen from power tech are dead ringer for the standard Festool ones. I’ll do a bit of digging to find out more, thanks! 👍👍

Hi Did you just use the blade that came with the Parkside Plunge Saw?

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, the stock blade - I do say in the vid - and I was impressed with how well it cut tbh, though a finer blade/more teeth would produce a better cut. 👍

@jamesjamieson8219

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter. Didn’t realise you had mentioned it. Keep the great videos cominig.

First a rail cross-cut in video #403, now a rail rip cut. What's next, resawing a 1400mm rail into two thinner 1400mm rails using your bandsaw...? 😂 Joking aside, excellent presentation as usual, and a very cost-effective way to make that rail a lot more useful.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Ooo, now you’ve got me thinking Eddy! 😂😂 And thanks! 👍

For info the HBM 1400mm rail which fits the Parkside is currently on special offer of E28.92 instead of E49.99. Shipping is E12.39 so that is E41.31 in total. That is a total of £35.46 which is pretty darned good if you have a Parkside plunge saw.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know, thanks! 🙌👍

Small island !

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

😆👍

I cut the sole of the saw! But not the tire itself. This increases the functionality.

I’ve been wanted to “upgrade “ to some full length rails. I’ll have to check out these as I could use them on a project soon!

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Great rails and a good price! 👍

@gattonpc

2 жыл бұрын

If you have a router you can make your own rails as long length as you want them to be. Why you need to "upgrade" yours by buying them. Make them yourself.

“Waxing stick”?? Don’t they have ice lollies in TV’s London anymore? 😀

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

They do, but these are wider, and yes, used for waxing. Apparently… 😱😂

Hi Peter, another useful video and I am in the market for my First Plunge Saw, but unfortunately been checking around and Screwfix don't seem to stock Mac Allister Plunge Saws anymore (Although there is ONE left on Amazon but for £175 ??) and also the Parkside Plunge Saw is no longer available from Lidl, not sure if it will ever come around again. To my surprise and initial delight I did see one on the shelf in my Local Lidl store only about three weeks ago, but on closer inspection, the box had been tampered with and the Guide Rails plus other bits I suspect were missing from the box. When I asked about it, the girl simply took off the shelf into the back of the store never to be seen again. Screwfix do sell the "Erbauer" 185mm version for £159.99 but not sure where this sits with the Parkside / Mac Allister story unless Mac Allister and Erbauer are made by the same manufacture. So in short I'm still confused about which Plunge Saw to buy for my first plunge into this area :-(

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Colin. The Parkside is only available from Lidl a couple of times a year here, which is mostly why I recommended the MacAllister tbh - disappointing to see it not listed on the Screwfix website, though other MacA products are, so hopefully it’s just a stock thing. You can still get the MacAllister plunge saw from B&Q, through the website or in store. I looked at the Erbauer in this video - Two Big Saws, kzread.info/dash/bejne/jHeKsrB_laungZs.html - alongside the near-identical big Triton saw, and they were both very nice saws, but the larger blade causes some issues sourcing replacements or alternatives - even the manufacturers don’t sell them as a spare! My conclusion was that unless you really needed the extra ~12mm or so depth of cut that these saws provide, then a regular plunge saw with a 160/165mm blade is a better bet for most people. HTH. P

@colindoesdiy

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop Peter, thanks for the additional info, think I'll have a run out to B&Q and have a look at the Mac Allister in person to get a better idea, thats the only downside to Screwfix I suppose, it's not quite as easy to look at different tools before you buy. I've had a lot of Mac Allister tools over the years, not least a Cement Mixer which I bought a couple of years ago for a landscaping project and its still going strong. I've spent rather a lot on tools ( or Shiny Shiny as my wife calls them) over the last six months getting my retirement woodworking shop (Garage) up to scratch so being a bit more selective now. My Aldi Cordless nail gun should arrive on tuesday 😁 so will see how that performs, thanks again.

I'm having terrible trouble keeping joined sections of dewalt track straight. All my full board cuts are bowing in the middle by about 2-3mm as the track moves slightly as the saw passes over the join. I'm convinced its because the dewalt system is flawed, in only connecting with one joining bar in the middle of the track. All these other tracks (festool, makita and the copies) seem to use 2 bars. 1 bar is just not rigid enough to have zero play in the joined tracks. Any other Dewalt users have the same issue? It's so bad I'm thinking of moving to the makita saw, even though my whole set up is dewalt. I wonder if I could some how make a brace that holds the dewalt track togther more securely.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t own a DeWalt saw but I have used one, and I agree with your diagnosis. Pretty sure the DeWalt will run on Festool / Makita rails though, if you wanted to keep the saw. 👍👍

@BusbyBiscuits

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, joining two panels together and getting it striaght is a bit of an art even with 2 joining bars.

@kristoffscuba5466

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks peter, good to know I'm not going mad or doing something wrong. I guess my choice is new saw and rails, or buy the dewalt 2.6m rail to go along with my 1.5m and 1m rails, and just accept that I'm never joining tracks together. I should never have bought the dewalt saw, I only did it to match my other tools and to trim the bottom of doors in situe, which I never do anyway as I take the door off to do that even now. Should have got the festool or makita.

Great advice. Just don’t use the extraction next time. Aluminium plus sawdust is not a good mix. 💥 Boom 💥

Will the alloy not nacker. The blade

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

No, TCT blades are fine for the occasional cut in a soft metal like aluminium. If you’re doing a lot, then invest in a blade for the job, but for the odd cut it’s fine. 👍👍

@aaronbell8527

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop thanks for the info didn’t no it would even cut thou it

Hi Peter, I noticed that festool released some new track joining bars, FSV/2 I think. No KZread reviews yet that I can find, maybe you could get hold of a set to review? Cheers.

@StrawbyteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Paul - The bars have been announced and will be available in October along with the new patten rails and accessories. There are few places permitting a pre-order. They are an improvement on the original and are very similar in operation to the joining bars for Bosch rails which work in two axis to get you a straight connection. My only issue is the cost, but that said I can't justify a 3m rail as the alternative.

@poolball888

2 жыл бұрын

@@StrawbyteWorkshop Thanks Karl, have you any experience of the metabo guide rail? It seems to use a joining bar similar to the Bosch and Mafell. I wonder if it would fit other brands of guide rail. Sauter shop have another brand that looks very similar to the metabo. Still loving my makita dust cover you made, cheers.

@StrawbyteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

@@poolball888 I thought I recognised the name. I'm glad you're enjoying the cover. I've not had any experience of the Metabo stuff - I passed on an opportunity to try as already own two brands of plunge saw. I may take a look and what's going on. connector bars ar a source of frustration and I am hoping that the new FSV/2 bars I've ordered reduce that.

@poolball888

2 жыл бұрын

@@StrawbyteWorkshop would make a good video when you get the new joining bars 👍😀

guillotine? might as well get one out as i think we may need to use them on our leaders soon ;)

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

😂👍

Good idea, I like it. But, be very careful and wear goggles. They can't get aluminum out of your eye with a magnet.

Sadly the latest Excel guide rails seem to have a different design, with the Makita style upward facing T-slot and anti-tip lip replaced by what looks like just an anti-tip lip. They look like the rails sold with cheapest plunge tools like the Draper/Tough Master/GMC/Silverline, so I think I'll stick with the Makita rails, since a 1500mm Makita is only £13 more than 2x700mm Excel rails.

@10MinuteWorkshop

8 ай бұрын

From the video description:- “2022 update: Be aware that the Excel 2 x700mm rails supplied with the Excel plunge saw are of a different pattern to the rail I’m discussing here.”

@markbooth3066

8 ай бұрын

Thanks @@10MinuteWorkshop, It's worth noting that while no-one seems to be selling Makita pattern rails cheaper than Makita now, this video is still highly relevant to those of us who want a rail with an upward facing T-slot for accessories, since Makita's rails are still half the price of official Festool rails. In my case, I paid for most of the cost of my Makita rails by buying an Einhell TE-PS 165, which is £30 cheaper than the cheapest other plunge saw, as it doesn't come with any rails, and I'd rather put £30 towards a £50 rail that I want, than have a spare £30 rail cluttering up my workshop. Note that the Einhell is interesting in that it has two grooves in it's base rather than one. It's own rails two ribs and are reversible, with one edge for 90deg cuts, the other for 45deg cuts. This of course means that unlike most rails, you can't use Einhell rails with other plunge saws, but you can still use the Einhell saw with Festool rails (but not Makita rails without the modification described here). Anyway, since I don't have any rail other than the Makita, I'm going to have to get creative to trim mine, but hopefully running an outer edge guide along the Makita rib will give me the precision I need.

Not worried about blunting the blade? I wouldn’t have thought the blade would have been suitable to cut through metal. I know evolution do mixed medium blades.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. Any TCT blade will be fine for the occasional cut in soft metal like aluminium. - I’ve done it many times (different saws/blades) without any issues at all. 👍👍

I appreciate this is an old video but as far as I can tell Excel now sell their 1400 guide rail as 2 x 700 pieces. Going to try to buy the HBM rail but struggling with translating Dutch! Edit, nope HBM say 'Unfortunately, we cannot deliver to the chosen country'.

@10MinuteWorkshop

11 ай бұрын

NO! The 2x700 rails are a different pattern altogether. They seem to have stopped supplying the 1x1400mm rail. The Excel branded saw and 2x700 rails are a visually very similar to the Parkside, with all the issues of that saw. Yes, that means that the Excel plunge saw won’t fit the excel 1x1400mm rail. 🤦‍♂️And yes, it is an old video, details were correct t at the time of publication. 👍

@999pez

11 ай бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks for the reply on this old video of yours. I emailed HBM and they replied that it's correct that they no longer deliver to the UK, must be another benefit of Brexit they keep talking about. I'll watch your video again but I guess I'll have to buy the Makita track if I want a 1400 in one piece. Cheers

I met once a woodworker that did not like metal dust in his shop as it might do something to his tools. Now I am seeing you cutting aluminum I am puzzled.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Everybody’s different Frits; maybe I’m more casual with my tools than he is; I certainly wouldn’t recommend sprinkling metal swarf into the motor, but I’m quite happy to make the occasional cut, as long as I tidy up afterwards. 👍👍

Festool rails are now under £80 for the 1400mm , seems pretty reasonable to me. Interesting to see you cutting aluminium with the track saw.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

It is, compared to what I paid for mine; but for some folks, spending the same as their (e.g. Parkside) saw cost on a single rail would be unthinkable, so getting one for less than half that price - or two for the same price - has some considerable appeal. Any TCT blade will be fine for the occasional cut in soft metal like aluminium, but if it’s something you need to do regularly then a blade made for the job will be better, and a higher tooth count will give a better finish. 👍

@rogerbean393

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop yes agree it’s all about budget.I do actually prefer the makita aluminium blades. I have one on my kapex 96 teeth , cuts plastic extrusion and aluminium both very accurately.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

I have the 52 tooth aluminium Festool blade in my TS55 and it cuts birch ply very cleanly too! 👍

nice mod peter

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

(owns 4.2M of track, finds himself adding another 1.5M of track to shopping cart!)

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂👍

Not a fan of altering tools to fit another unless it's reversible and there are plenty of videos showing how to make one, Jsk-koubou has lots of jigs on his KZread channel

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Tracksaw workshop P 6, DIY 8’ guide rail - kzread.info/dash/bejne/X41hyamYaJq7qtY.html. This is for folks who don’t want to do that, but want to use standard rails on their saw. Also, is a rail a tool? I’d say it’s an accessory. 🤷‍♂️👍

@deanthurmankingham

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop okay fair point

Years ago Australia had the "Toe Cutter Gang" a particularly viscous bunch of psychopaths that made the Krays look like angels. The Toe Cutters scared other violent psychopathic criminals. This thumbnail should come with a trigger warning.

@tonysheehan7766

2 жыл бұрын

did they name themselves after the baddie in mad max 2 or was it the other way around?

@sheilbwright7649

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonysheehan7766 Don't know. They would torture other criminals to steal from them and since violent psychopaths don't hand over their loot when you ask nicely the Toe Cutters would torture them. Their favourite was not cutting off toes but drilling holes in kneecaps and other parts.

Where is my comment? Deleted??

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Not by me!🤷‍♂️

Algorithms

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

🤔🤷‍♂️

@cr-ew8od

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop just trying to help with the KZread stats ....but didn't have anything to say

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, I see! Thanks! 👍

great video but please stop wearing clothing with a small grid pattern it makes you look flashy.

@10MinuteWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

"flashy" like a 'spiv' or flashy as in moiré patterns on screen. If it's moiré, then it's due to imbalance between the size/resolution of your playback device, so easily resolved - unlike say, giving me fashion advice... 😂

@3dmazter

2 жыл бұрын

@@10MinuteWorkshop It was moiré effect indeed. I was watching on tv 1080P.