How to Train Your Ears to Hear Intervals the RIGHT Way

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One of the most important skills musicians need to develop is their ears. Jazz improvisation is all about having great ears so that you can play the music that you are hearing in your head.
There are a lot of things you can do to develop this, but I believe the fundamentals of ear training are a great foundation.
In this video, I talk about the most basic building block in ear training: INTERVALS. I teach you how to train your ears to recognize and sing any interval.
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  • @jamkey6536
    @jamkey65366 жыл бұрын

    Love how this applies to any music; back to the basics. This video is probably the best and most structured lesson I've seen for this.

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad to be of help! Absolutely, ear training is important for all kinds of musical training.

  • @leotosaurus
    @leotosaurus9 ай бұрын

    I can't overstate just how well you've organized and presented this material. I've been playing guitar casually for over 30 years now, and this video is what finally made these concepts click for me both theoretically and practically.

  • @KathyFreeman
    @KathyFreeman3 жыл бұрын

    Great tips: batch learning and only assigning one song mnemonic to each interval. This is really helping me focus without overloading, thanks.

  • @tomski2671
    @tomski26713 жыл бұрын

    Your tip to focus on one or two intervals at a time is excellent. My problem was I was trying to do 5 or more at a time both ascending and descending.

  • @sallybowles2781
    @sallybowles27815 жыл бұрын

    I have great ears, but only in the sense of large :/

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ha!

  • @dwightfrie
    @dwightfrie4 жыл бұрын

    You do ask for comments so... I didn't have a method before finding you. Thank you. I practiced trying to learn things by ear but never had a method to it. I've been making and keeping notes to all the relevant content I can find since being able to pick my guitar back up. ( I've been healing from my 9th and 10th spinal surgeries and haven't been able to play anything but my uke for the last year and forget any kind of practice regiment.) One thing that time did do is help me realize that I had a better ear than I thought and could translate it to my uke faster than I thought. I'm relatively new on the Uke but with a low G tenor, I realized I was practicing fretboard knowledge from my 5th fret on up on my high 4 strings. So I kept a Uke next to my bed and recliner and have been noodling around with it as I feel good enough and/hear something and think, I can play that. So now, that I'm able to start getting out and doing some traveling as I had planned to do to celebrate, if and when I recovered enough since that plan has been thrown out the window because of the virus, I spent my travel fund on upgrading my technology and instruments. We're not talking a lot of money here but, to me, it's significant. I also started organizing and really looking at what different online tutorials and courses had to say and to offer for free or at a rate I could justify spending. All the instructors I admire and relate to the best have the basic same methodology of practice and learning and if you know a little theory you can apply these lessons to all genres of music. So far, I have found what you offer for free through different platforms is the absolute best viewing material for my practice journal and challenges. I did spend 10 bucks through TrueFire on 2 recommended courses and those are giving me the right-hand technique practice inspirations. Again, Thank you!!! I hope to eventually be a paying member. In the meantime, I'll be watching across all your platforms and taking notes. Sincerely, Joe Hiestand

  • @AvyayaMusic
    @AvyayaMusic6 ай бұрын

    Thanks man I'm taking music seriously now , first thing I want to perfectly learn is music theory and perfect my ear pitch . This video was really helpful. Thank you from bottom of my heart ❤️

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    6 ай бұрын

    Go for it!

  • @ejomaumambala5984
    @ejomaumambala59845 жыл бұрын

    You're good, Brent! Finally, I'm beginning to see how I can improve my interval recog, thanks to your vid.

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    5 жыл бұрын

    Glad to help!

  • @100happythoughts
    @100happythoughts Жыл бұрын

    I I just found your channel yesterday and it feels like Christmas Day! I have not felt this excited in years!!! I transitioned from rock to Jazz so it’s still a little overwhelming but promise to stick with it.

  • @southpark4151
    @southpark41513 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed that video. Thanks very much for your help and time!

  • @marcoborge2128
    @marcoborge21282 жыл бұрын

    So thankful mate, keep this great work going!

  • @mattthemetalguitarist
    @mattthemetalguitarist4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, you explained so clearly!

  • @hqelias
    @hqelias3 жыл бұрын

    This video helped me a lot. Thanks! Subscribed.

  • @twinkywinky3671
    @twinkywinky36713 жыл бұрын

    thank you this was the only video i could find that actullay broke this down

  • @bettyennin6335
    @bettyennin63353 жыл бұрын

    Awesome. Thank you!

  • @legotheman
    @legotheman4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Brent! That was proper.

  • @SageTheNomad
    @SageTheNomadАй бұрын

    This was incredibly helpful 👏🏾

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    Ай бұрын

    Glad you think so! Thanks!

  • @moonie4193
    @moonie41933 жыл бұрын

    ive been struggling with the reason of why we're learning intervals. and why did my teach just send out a list of songs. but thanks to you, i now know the reason :( so thank you so much im taking ab music production while pandemic and ive never felt so stressed and confused. :( so THank you:(((

  • @batchlorofyoutube2108

    @batchlorofyoutube2108

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sight reading doesent make you improvise better its a lot of work but everyone can do it

  • @jimtessin4130
    @jimtessin4130 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent!!!!!!

  • @adarsh65kumar
    @adarsh65kumar6 жыл бұрын

    Man .. your tip on using a song really changed my world.. thanks a million..

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad to help Adarsh!

  • @samjackson8660
    @samjackson86604 ай бұрын

    Very helpful thanks

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    4 ай бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @ignaciocordovadonoso8662
    @ignaciocordovadonoso86625 жыл бұрын

    Great tutorial, bro.

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ignacio!

  • @bersalguero
    @bersalguero Жыл бұрын

    you are too funny!! loved the lesson ❤ I look forward to seeing more of your videos

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 😃

  • @bersalguero

    @bersalguero

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Learnjazzstandards 😉

  • @emmanuelsmith826
    @emmanuelsmith8264 жыл бұрын

    Thank so much,

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    4 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure Emmanuel!

  • @bb-ld7nq
    @bb-ld7nq4 жыл бұрын

    I just practised intervals on piano, and I wanted to look for some video

  • @bobwrotenstien315
    @bobwrotenstien3154 жыл бұрын

    How does this work in practice. For example if I want to sing ascending 4th I can reference a song (Here comes the bride) . But what we need to do is the opposite: Identify an interval we don't know yet. I guess you cycle through your song list until you don't need to rely on it anymore?

  • @1TreukFlyyy
    @1TreukFlyyy3 жыл бұрын

    Intervals are very important. What about tonal ear training (hearing in relation to a tonal center) ?

  • @gclaborn
    @gclaborn3 жыл бұрын

    I teach guitar/banjo and I couldn't agree more that learning intervals is essential, and more important, being able to reproduce intervals / melodies / rhythms by singing is absolutely fundamental to training your ears; required for playing ANY instrument. You gotta get it in your head before you can pass it along to your hands. However, I have a major nit with your video that I think will make it harder for those trying to learn from it: There's no reference to key. There's an implicit assumption that the reference tone is the tonic/root note of a key. OK so far, but then your song choices blow this out of the water; eg, Someday My Prince Will Come: You use this to demo a perfect 4th interval... true if the reference note was the root, but it's not. In the context of this song, that interval is 5-1; a major 5th interval with the 5 on the bottom. Very, very confusing. Same thing with Georgia On My Mind which you use to demo the minor 3rd: In the context of that song, those notes are the 3 and 5 of the key its in; The upper two notes of the root's MAJOR triad. Smoke On the Water would've been a better choice to demo the minor 3rd. I'd re-work your song choices to always have the reference note as the root. And consider a prerequisite video on keys, tonal center, how to form a major scale, triads, diatonic chords for a key, etc.

  • @jackwilloughby239

    @jackwilloughby239

    2 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts exactly: a leading tone to Tonic sounds different than a Tonic to b9, or a 3rd to the four, etc., etc. You have to know what scale degree you are starting on and which scale degree you are going to and also what quality of chord is harmonizing the interval. Blue Monk starts on the third of the Tonic (a dominant 7th chord), but he also uses the same figure on the four chord and then repeats the same four note figure on that same chord, starting on the fifth to build tension up to the Dominant 7th (of the 4 chord). And they really all sound different. Melancholy Baby, Swing 39, and Chattanooga Choo Choo use the same devise. I should also add that I spent hours and hours with those taped courses sold in the back of Guitar Player and Keyboard, attended Music school at two different Universities and took the same ear training classes over and over learning solfege and all of that. Nothing worked for me until I got a digital piano I could tune to 432Hz. Then my ears just kinda opened up and I started hearing these intervals in popular songs, but more importantly it wasn't just the intervals but the whole motif and I could tell what scale degree they all started on and the pattern, Like the same pattern of Meditation is the same pattern for Take Five. Now That totally blew my mind.

  • @yme3345

    @yme3345

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jackwilloughby239 why did changing to 432hz help you?

  • @jackwilloughby239

    @jackwilloughby239

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yme3345 Verdi claimed that 432Hz was more natural for the voice, so that put the idea in my mind. I wasn't able to do anything with it until I got a Roland RD-120 stage piano that could be tuned to 432 and also different temperaments. I found that 432 fit my inner ear better. It sounded less harsh. My fingers went to the correct notes more often when Improvising. It was almost like having a semblance of Perfect Pitch. Since then I have experimented with 415 (German tuning) and also tried tuning without a reference (except what sounded best) on my violin while using Pythagorean temperament on MuseScore. What I've found out is that it is actually the Temperament that is important to me on Violin. The strings and everything just work better at 440Hz. On the piano my new Roland FP-10 doesn't offer change of pitch so no way to go forward. I did struggle for a very long time just to get a decent relative pitch. I think it would have been easier with 432Hz.

  • @jay_nickkel
    @jay_nickkel4 жыл бұрын

    God bless you :,)

  • @zedius24
    @zedius245 жыл бұрын

    Hello. Can you please share link to this lesson?

  • @corrylievens5392
    @corrylievens5392 Жыл бұрын

    Very good lesson

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching

  • @coffeecoder9458
    @coffeecoder94582 жыл бұрын

    I've always wondered if there is any research out there on amount and type of practice vs level of proficiency or levels of acquisition.

  • @sashka6666
    @sashka66663 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Brent - nice work! Can you tell me what microphone you’re using?

  • @julianleil7847
    @julianleil78473 жыл бұрын

    What does it mean if I need one and a half step to make sure there's a difference in pitch? I had no ear training before, but I determined this as I wanted to start learning music. Is keyboard the best instrument for my case since I need vision more than hearing to determine what I need to play?

  • @canadasbubbleologyshow1438
    @canadasbubbleologyshow14383 жыл бұрын

    what kind of mic are you using and the cover...I love that sound

  • @alandraalexandria6526
    @alandraalexandria65262 жыл бұрын

    How to learn harmonic interval? Shall we take a songs as well and associate it?

  • @dragoivasile1375
    @dragoivasile13759 ай бұрын

    Hello! Do you know how to train the ear in order to hear a lot of notes played simultaneously?

  • @jingyang4659
    @jingyang46594 жыл бұрын

    Hello, I like the online lessons you shared on the screen to demonstrate interval practice. Is it an app or an online course for ear training? Is it ok for you to share its name?

  • @robin.251

    @robin.251

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jing Yang it’s in the description of his video however, there is a huge catch - it’s $245…

  • @hassanismael7126
    @hassanismael71264 жыл бұрын

    I use David Lucas Burge course which is similar

  • @user-nd6um5yr6y
    @user-nd6um5yr6y6 жыл бұрын

    Hi. I'm korean student studying jazz piano. let me know what website you are studying interval in this video?? I can't find any song that include +4 interval....please help me...

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hey there! I'm working on a lesson in our ear training course, How to Play What You Hear. If you think that would be something you're interested in, check out howtoplaywhatyouhear.com. You can also get our Ear Training Blueprint and Video Series for free, if you want to check out some of the elements in this course and some instruction: learnjazzstandards.com/eartraining

  • @nbyiza
    @nbyiza5 жыл бұрын

    Am listening 2 u

  • @6drk6mrc6
    @6drk6mrc63 жыл бұрын

    What about harmonic intervals?

  • @jcong000
    @jcong000 Жыл бұрын

    I have problam when they are played so quickly or one after another, not like when you're playing one interval and in a slow tempo

  • @glennthewise6613
    @glennthewise66133 жыл бұрын

    I'm actually a guitarist but I still find this useful

  • @raphaellegirard2058
    @raphaellegirard20583 жыл бұрын

    What ia the website used in the video?

  • @Stewkeithmtb
    @Stewkeithmtb3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this, really good tips. Sadly I can't sing so...

  • @aidenrajkovic7099

    @aidenrajkovic7099

    3 жыл бұрын

    You don't have to sing well, just produce the note. Go hide somewhere nobody can hear you and practice intervals, I suggest on a canoe in the middle of a lake, a kayak would work too but you won't have as much mobility to use your legs to produce the notes.

  • @vitamin9165

    @vitamin9165

    2 жыл бұрын

    just hum or even imagine in your head

  • @guitargatekeeper

    @guitargatekeeper

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aidenrajkovic7099 LOL thank you for showing how ridiculous people's phobia of others hearing them sing

  • @ArmoredLion217
    @ArmoredLion2176 жыл бұрын

    I can’t seem to find this page on the website.

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hi Clarion! Can you let me know which page you are looking for specifically? Glad to help.

  • @matthewrolle6133
    @matthewrolle61335 жыл бұрын

    where find these lessons on ear training.

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Matthew, if you're referring to the ear training course I was working out of in this video, you can find it here: www.learnjazzstandards.com/play-hear-sales-page/

  • @vitamin9165
    @vitamin91652 жыл бұрын

    Lol I wanna hear a M2 as isn't she lovely because it's a great song but every time jaws just pops into my head. I also hear M3 as doe a dear which is slightly lame

  • @joshsanchez9793
    @joshsanchez97932 жыл бұрын

    Best

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @wongjin301
    @wongjin3013 жыл бұрын

    No way 😳 this guy build ppl stairway to heaven 😳 he is awesome 😳 im in shock 😳 shock anyone shock 😳?

  • @sumathiwilson9650
    @sumathiwilson96504 жыл бұрын

    Nice video sir..are you self taught ?

  • @tsainicholas7362

    @tsainicholas7362

    2 жыл бұрын

    n,lofm,nhgk,mhmkxfdh

  • @TheNirvan999
    @TheNirvan9993 жыл бұрын

    how is ode to joy's second and third note minar second ? Its major second . E E F G G THIRD NOTES IS F AND IT GOES TO G . Its a major second . Please somebody explain me how is it minar second ?

  • @Jeremygee

    @Jeremygee

    3 жыл бұрын

    When he says “second note” he means the second E in your transcription. The E to F is the minor second

  • @alancosens
    @alancosens2 жыл бұрын

    I never got the point of focusing on descending intervals. For me it seems way, way easier just to recognize the octave pitch of the interval (functional intervals). In other words it's not "down a minor 3rd" it's just a major 6. Is there some reason why someone would need to recognize them in a descending fashion? Perhaps I'm severely ignorant.

  • @nbyiza
    @nbyiza5 жыл бұрын

    I ve challenge music ear problematic

  • @s-guytech9160
    @s-guytech91602 жыл бұрын

    Anyone wo sees this, Wouldnt the same interval sound different in a different scale?

  • @mageshmartin444
    @mageshmartin4442 жыл бұрын

    I am 56 year old How can I get ear training. Can I do it please reply

  • @therealnafis3637
    @therealnafis36373 жыл бұрын

    Major Second -> Can't Stop by RHCP (intro)

  • @AnymMusic
    @AnymMusic2 жыл бұрын

    I don't even wanna learn all this, but considering I wanna go to a conservatoire as a music PRODUCER, it's basically mandatory. like I know it roughly, and know often where I wanna put notes when drawing in melodies, but knowing exactly what interval each is and blah blah blah nope

  • @ravi_1471
    @ravi_14714 жыл бұрын

    One problem is that I will associate an interval with a one song, e.g. Major second with "Frere Jacques"... But then I do not recognize that Major Second interval in other songs when the rhythm changes. For example: Silent Night... :--(.

  • @alandraalexandria6526

    @alandraalexandria6526

    2 жыл бұрын

    YES bro. Sometimes I feel it

  • @curtpiazza1688
    @curtpiazza16882 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @me1ody69
    @me1ody69 Жыл бұрын

    get those Great. Solid. Ears. GSE.

  • @elizavetkakalphman9464
    @elizavetkakalphman94643 жыл бұрын

    I have a problem... So I have perfect pitch and I cant really use these songs because I know the note and it just sounds weird to me. I dont know how to train since I don't have a teacher. Any tips? (I have a level 10 piano exam coming up :/

  • @rhythmwarrior3859
    @rhythmwarrior38593 жыл бұрын

    My name is Brent also😎

  • @ghostpizza1616
    @ghostpizza16164 жыл бұрын

    So is guitar bad and witch one is better guitar or piano

  • @noonesomeone8730

    @noonesomeone8730

    4 жыл бұрын

    Guitar is also fine. But piano is better for ear training.

  • @bobcrochit4427
    @bobcrochit44273 жыл бұрын

    How come I can hear you perfectly well at the beginning of the video and there is no sign of a Microphone, but then at 1:22 you stick a Massive microphone in the shot, blocking half of your face ??? WHY ???

  • @pazdylan1873
    @pazdylan18732 жыл бұрын

    But the author still didn't explain how you apply learnt intervals to real life musical situations for identifying chords within a song.

  • @DETERMINOLOGY

    @DETERMINOLOGY

    2 жыл бұрын

    Learn the # system, Also Ear training on intervals will help you learn chords such as major minor aug dim etc. Ear train on chords. If song is doing 1-5-6-4 in C that would be C,G,A,F..You want to be able to pick that up pretty quickly...If you really cant do intervals and your skipping to chords you have a long ways to go alot of people like to skip now day days and all of it works together

  • @FunkOsax
    @FunkOsax2 жыл бұрын

    Odd rapid tremolo on the piano sounds, and on you voice when you sustain a note

  • @luukipuuk3537
    @luukipuuk35373 жыл бұрын

    I use twinkle twinkle little star for the perfect fifth, but often get it confused with the alphabet.

  • @ammonquitalig9077

    @ammonquitalig9077

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cause its the same? 🤔

  • @nguyenphuongHN2811
    @nguyenphuongHN28113 жыл бұрын

    so i have perfect pitch, that mean i have 10% advantage to play jazz ??

  • @pacoltrane

    @pacoltrane

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, I don't know very well how that kind of hearing works, I suppose is great to have it, but you need to use relative pitch too anyway. Jazz harmony is constantly and quickly changing so you might need to be able to relate a pitch or chord to the tonality it is been played over at any given moment. For example, pitch C doesn't have the same function (or sound) on C major as it has on Ab major. Do you hear an Ab major triad as a Cminb6? I don't think so.

  • @kruzrken
    @kruzrken5 жыл бұрын

    At 11:50 in your video, you state that you are singing a (C) minor 3rd (1-3.) It is actually 3-5 in the key of A flat.

  • @BudderB0y2222
    @BudderB0y22224 жыл бұрын

    Starts at 4:10

  • @taeblends

    @taeblends

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro

  • @joucebox
    @joucebox3 жыл бұрын

    There's like 100+ sounds to know... see you guys in year 3000! :/ Curse ear training + intervals-

  • @anjalisachaniya3555
    @anjalisachaniya35552 жыл бұрын

    You're extremely handsome ❤️

  • @kidpoker9408
    @kidpoker94085 жыл бұрын

    Song reference is the wrong way Search functional ear training

  • @Learnjazzstandards

    @Learnjazzstandards

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Kid Poker, functional ear training is great. So is simply learning music by ear in general. All work towards improving your ears. I'm not one to subscribe to only one way to do things, and different things help different people. That being said, I appreciate your input on the subject!

  • @isrhazan7896
    @isrhazan78964 жыл бұрын

    jesus 247$ for an online course

  • @almazabegaz898

    @almazabegaz898

    4 жыл бұрын

    isr hazan ikr rip off

  • @m.e44

    @m.e44

    4 жыл бұрын

    download it for free as an app

  • @perfectpitch2506

    @perfectpitch2506

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@m.e44 which app?

  • @m.e44

    @m.e44

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@perfectpitch2506 soo many try Perfect Ear or Functional Ear

  • @Robert-ff9zp

    @Robert-ff9zp

    4 жыл бұрын

    perfect ear app helped for me. Completely free, except some higher levels which you have to pay for to unlock, so I just stopped there. The amount of intervals you can practise there in a logical way is more than enough. That made me near to perfect in identifying intervals between two individual notes, but with multiple chords it also gets more difficult to distinguish. So yeah, that app works.

  • @perfectpitch2506
    @perfectpitch25064 жыл бұрын

    I might go the hard way bcoz I can learn anything incredibly fast.

  • @TLilacTwilight
    @TLilacTwilight8 ай бұрын

    You talked way too much to get to the point before showing anything. 2:35 in heard nothing.....

  • @euricoferreira1840
    @euricoferreira18404 жыл бұрын

    Blablablabla... same shit, different face. Why? Because there's no shortcut.. pratice, enjoy

  • @theastrogoth8624
    @theastrogoth86242 жыл бұрын

    You lost me at “singing”

  • @Dave.Wattz100
    @Dave.Wattz1003 жыл бұрын

    How not to hear the right intervals with those big ears of yours ???

  • @MrFree-vj8qj
    @MrFree-vj8qj4 жыл бұрын

    I disagree with these theoretical methods, It's much more realist to do it with your instrument. for example : take a scale play the root or any other note of it, then find all the rest from there trying to sing different intervals, sing first then try to find that interval on different place on your instrument. NEXT LVL : keep changing your reference note for intervals you sing. Apply this to any song you learn, try to know by ear what interval you are going to play from the sound only before playing them.

  • @mauboy1983
    @mauboy19835 жыл бұрын

    My "pro tip": just play your damn instrument and with time your ears will learn what button/key/string makes which tone. This whole "learn a part of another song to identify the interval" is just dumb. If I learn a new language, I listen to it and speak the words as much as I can. With time I'll get it. I certainly don't think of parts of poems that used a certain sequence of words when I try to learn a new sentance. Also: Good luck trying to do that in real time....

  • @mattwood1562

    @mattwood1562

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mauboy Western Also, you’re not scouting for drummers such as myself, who do not have this option available

  • @elliotskunk

    @elliotskunk

    4 жыл бұрын

    dude, you dont develop a comprehensive ear by just playing, this is a very specific skill

  • @MrFree-vj8qj
    @MrFree-vj8qj3 жыл бұрын

    I disagree with these methods and lazy theoretical lay back approaches, with tricks and gimmicks. Its right down to business like Carnatic music teaches it , singing repetitively melodies using interval names and practicing with a set of defined exercises and songs, direct, musical, and methodical. Not talking and talking to the camera or just listening endlessly. You gotta use your body to know yourself then you'll know music. (Otherwise be born gited around musicians and or play for 20 years like most people who dont know how to teach this)

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