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@IDiggPattyMayonnaise

Жыл бұрын

Definitely get you test levels checked in your late 20s, or at least by 30. I'm 32 and mine is well below normal. My NP said it probably started dropping in my 20s.

@mosespanier3421

Жыл бұрын

I think its usefull if one is doping

@letransformateur6477

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Clarence. I didnt know about the 10% rule, its an easy rule of thumb that can show me what is realistic. Btw thanks I became vegan after seeing your content. Cheers

@theiscarface

Жыл бұрын

Post more often

@neil_pickups_neck_aircondi826

Жыл бұрын

@@IDiggPattyMayonnaise lifestyle changes can boost testosterone naturally, I understand some people need it for medical reasons. TRT is a lifelong commitment, put some deep thought into it before you jump on

"are you natty?" "no" to this day the most based answer to ever be uttered in YT Fitness

@KB-cw3dw

Жыл бұрын

The most refreshing answer by any fitness channel ever. Most dance around the question even if they don’t outright claim natural. Many give drawn out explanations for why they are/aren’t natural. The simple “no” gives no nuanced explanation or justification. Just the truth.

@coachingconfidant2785

Жыл бұрын

what if ur natty and u lie about being fake natty what happens then will ppl respect u more

@anotherhairlessapewithanop7455

Жыл бұрын

@@coachingconfidant2785 whatre u talking bout, you can't be a fake natty if you're natural.

@coachingconfidant2785

Жыл бұрын

@@anotherhairlessapewithanop7455 nobody knows ur natty except you. Im saying that a natty claims their taking steroids to boost their rep...are you slow?

@anotherhairlessapewithanop7455

Жыл бұрын

@@coachingconfidant2785 why tf would a natty tell ppl they're on roids

As a fake natty I approve this message! 💪💉

@kk0119yt

Жыл бұрын

Found the Fake Natty

@epicfiend1999

Жыл бұрын

@@kk0119yt he's not fake you're just jealous

@krisp0114

Жыл бұрын

Keep up the fake natiness

@davesprivatelounge

Жыл бұрын

Eat clen, tren hard, anavar give up

@uzivatelification

Жыл бұрын

This is actualy a paradox.. you cannot be openly fake natty, that just makes you .. not fake natty :D

I still need a video collab of Clarence going to Juji's new fancy gym with a gazillion machines, ending up only doing atg squats in a squat rack

@happygingertime

Жыл бұрын

I would love that

@davidkinslow

Жыл бұрын

He mentioned in a patreon he plans on visiting juji again but nothing final yet

@highviewbarbell

Жыл бұрын

I like when Bugez went there and they ended up doing pullovers with a big natural stone lmao

@Antpaok

Жыл бұрын

yes please, this would be great

@doldemenshubarti8696

Жыл бұрын

he's ridiculously strong on other lifts including bench press

Imagine if Kai had gone full gigachad and instead said only with grapefruits.

@tjcogger1974

Жыл бұрын

Underrated comment.

@zachstaudt5211

Жыл бұрын

LMFAO

Clarence out here low-key teaching critical thinking. Great video.

@cerealsgames3118

Жыл бұрын

I wish I had videos like this when I was in high school

@runhenry

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to dissapoint but I'm afraid you're a victim of Sophistry here, rather than critical reasoning. Clarence unfortunately committed the Classic Logical FALLACY of "slippery slope" -----that drug test cannot be 100% accurate, that there are drug cheats doesnt mean drug test is NOTHING. It also doesn't mean degree of rampancy of PED use is uniform across sports. Moreoever, it doesn't mean the degree of PED use in sports governed by WADA is at all comparable to the degree of PED use in unregulated sports. In fact, I would argue athletes in 100m and Olympic lifting use FAR LESS than those in more unregulated sports such as strongman, powerlifting, crossfit, and bodybuilding. To lump them all together and claim Olympic lifting is no different from your next door 24 hour gym or internet fitness guru is just a Gross oversimplification... I don't think anybody or WADA has ever claimed an athlete is completely NATURAL SIMPLY BECAUSE they pass its drug test. Their definition of "natural" is always qualified. Between an athlete who passes a drug test and an athelte who abuses PED as much as he wants there is a WORLD of difference. Clarence is knocking on an open door here

@david6178

Жыл бұрын

@@runhenry WADA don’t claim it. But the vast majority of the population think these guys are natural. They are portrayed as these superhero’s and given a bigger spotlight then “untested sports”. Meanwhile, they have a dirty little secret that they hide from the young, up and coming athletes by taking peds. That’s the problem.

@MisterJunichi

Жыл бұрын

@@runhenry slippery slope is not a fallacy. it is proven in reality

Everything goes on hold when Clarence drops a video

@bluehairguy6738

Жыл бұрын

Yeah because he uploads like once every six months lol 😂😢😂

@AndreS_22246

Жыл бұрын

Haha, true, I’m cooking dinner now but it’s gonna have to wait 😂

@822737292

Жыл бұрын

The people’s champ

@skeetpetite86

Жыл бұрын

Quite frankly

@Daniel-Davies-Gonstead-Student

Жыл бұрын

*PRIORITIES*

Clarence even called him “Mike O’Tren” lmao

@realzaggin6575

3 ай бұрын

No comparison to the King Clarence which is a honest atlethe. Mike O Tren isnt impressive, all this drugs injected, thats a sport for genderless who cant choose their hormone levels

Clarence with a sponsor? The time has come my brothers

@scottessery100

Жыл бұрын

Clarence living in Nottingham… 😮

@adambassuni6084

Жыл бұрын

@@scottessery100 oh shit i wonder what gym he goes to

Are you natty though? Clarence: 'No'

Fake natty videos have been done to death . . . but if Clarence has a video on this topic, I'm in!

Clarence the kind of guy who'd use a hook grip on a grocery store shopping cart.

@pleaseenteranamelol711

Жыл бұрын

Why wouldnt you do that? i hook grip anything i can hold

@rustyrave

Жыл бұрын

You not a true weightlifter if you dont hookgrip everything lol

@salguodrolyat2594

11 ай бұрын

Or to carry his shopping bag home.😁

I love that you actually allowed your video to be sponsored!!! I hate that it’s largely necessary to be profitable but I’m glad there’s a legitimate way to promote you. You’re a great guy and deserve to profit from your fans. Cheers brother!

I want to get to the point one day someone questions my nattyness.

@a-a-rondavis9438

Жыл бұрын

peak

@yewtewbstew547

Жыл бұрын

Do you mean just anyone? Or specifically people who are into strength training themselves? Because it's pretty easy to get uninitiated non-lifters to think you're on steroids, just do a ton of fluff and pump upper body training for two or three years then wear a tight t-shirt everywhere you go lol.

@Robdutton91

9 ай бұрын

@@yewtewbstew547it’s when you still look big in a baggy t shirt, that’s when you know you’re not natty

As a general rule of thumb: Bigger/stronger than you equals not natty, smaller/weaker than equals they natty and aren't training hard enough

@prizma45

Жыл бұрын

where's the lie?

@MagufoBoy

Жыл бұрын

works well if you are Ronnie

@maltheri9833

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I've met guys who's 185 pure shredded all inserts college football player all natural. It's hard as hell to tell because with his shirt off you'd think 1000% dude is on the juice. I even look like a juicer if you didn't know i use to be 308 now I'm 196 so I'm jacked asl but my friends joke about me using all the time

@ioniordache8372

Жыл бұрын

@@maltheri9833 how do you know he was natural ?

@NPFfumbi

Жыл бұрын

LMFAOOOOOOOO

Simeon Panda and Mike O hearn must be sweating after this video came out 🤣

Highly informative and quality production. Felt like a short minute watching. Thanks

Cant believe its only 10mins I want an hour or more on this

One thing that i think that gets overlooked is the fact that you can still show benefits of PEDs even several years after taking them. I have a friend that would test natural bc he hasn't taken PEDs in 15 years but he can still bench 405 despite almost never working out...

@davecom3

Жыл бұрын

Excellent point. The ability to synthesise protein and greater bone density will likely stay with most moderate users for the rest of their lives.

@a-a-rondavis9438

Жыл бұрын

He could also be a little gifted lol.

@yewtewbstew547

Жыл бұрын

Yeah testosterone in particular is basically putting your body through a second male puberty when used in above-natural doses, which obviously you can never really undo. You can allow the muscle mass to atrophy back down to your pre PED size and that will wipe out _most_ of the "unnatural" performance gains, but you're never going to reverse everything.

@Brandonis123

Жыл бұрын

Also you can recover better so use UFC as an example; a fighter training in thailand can buy test and peptides over the counter... That same fighter might be able to do an hour muay thai training, an hour of bjj, an hour of sparring & fully recover and be good to go the next day... Whereas a natural fighter might only be able to recover from one session. Getting away with ped use doesnt just make you stronger but allows you to do a LOT more training... And then you can just clean up and get your bloodwork back to baseline

Big love clearance! Hope you are thriving and doing the best ever!

Love that you used Ender Lillies as the background for the video!

@youssefbelmajdoub5742

Жыл бұрын

I thought the exact same thing, wanted to comment on it and found your comment. It's just so pretty and beautiful

@miguelscosta

Жыл бұрын

That's it, the name of the game, I've that one on my wishlist for so long.

Nice to see you making more educational videos Clarence. You are smart and well spoken, the structure of these will improve but the main thing is getting to know the guy who inspires many of us to be our best

Clarence I’m fairly new to your channel, but I’m blown away by your dedication and drive over all these years. I’m really interested in your own reasons for changing to non-natty and what your experience was like in making that switch, numbers, feelings ect. If this type of video exists, could someone point me to it, thank you.

Everyone is always talking about fake nattys, but no one ever talks about fake users! I am on gear guys! You gotta believe me!

Unrelated to video, but recently bought your squat program and seeing amazing results. Thanks Clarence!

@Robdutton91

9 ай бұрын

How did it go? What did your squat go from and to?

@benjthewhite

9 ай бұрын

@@Robdutton91 started at a tough 160kg atg and ended with a comfortable 180kg atg

When Clarence speaks, I listen.

@93Beefcake

Жыл бұрын

for the blind he is the light for the deaf he is sound for the mute he is voice

Surely a fake natural is simply someone who claims natty and isnt?

Finally got around to watching the video, love the AOT tree you used for the background at the end 👍🏼

More vids like this from you would be dope. You do them very well

Thanks clarence appreciate your insight on the matter, stay safe brother.

clarence is back at it again making videos, finally

I can't believe how smooth was this promotion introduced into the video

Glad to see you getting sponsored Clarence 🙂

Clarence, your tricking looks like a video game. You are very gifted and hard working. I was watching T.V. when you started pistol squats, and I'm still watching it. PEDs just highlighted what was already there.

Did he just call out Mike o tren? He just eats duck eggs and trens hard

USA Weightlifting has a largely successful propaganda campaign that purports all USA weightlifters as tested and natural. Coaches, when questioned about the natural status of their athletes, react with anger and whataboutism, pointing to USADA as the final decider of the issue. In my opinion, it's just American exceptionalism in PED form. Some of these up-and-coming unaffiliated athletes are adding 50kg to their total in a year, or squatting 210kg (with long levers) before they turn 20. And to address the classic American rebuttal, no, I do not believe we can simply look to totals for the answer, because we do not have a weightlifting farm system in this country akin to Eastern Europe or Asia. USAW and USADA have created an entire culture around fake natties.

Good job Claerence, you have a tremendous ability of taking complex ideas and explaining them in simple terms for a broad audience (without sacrificing the quality of the idea). You obviously come across as a thoughtful person with great ideas, the public could use some of those! A big bonus for attacking ''avoided'' areas such as drug-use in sports.

I think claiming to be natty after using gear is a disgrace to oneself. How can someone live with themselves knowing that they had to use gear to reach where they are & naturally wouldn't even be anywhere near? (Excluding those bound by business contract to claim so)

@BlackiJ11

Жыл бұрын

"Anywhere near is debatable", but I get what you're saying

@JS-ri8qc

Жыл бұрын

People lie to themselves all the time it's no surprise anywhere

@germanrud9904

9 ай бұрын

Narcissism is much more powerful than honor

@user-cr4pz5yg7y

3 ай бұрын

Peds make you WAY more money. Point blank. This is the answer. It is easily worth the scrutiny and hate you get. It isnt cheating when everyone is cheating

The issue is 99.99% of fake nattys will never lift anywhere near WR level. So these methods only work for pro athletes, and only at the highest level

Good choice in music putting that celeste tune in there

@vilgotlidbeck1374

Жыл бұрын

I recognize it was from One shot, I might be wrong though

informative as always clarence

Awesome perspective, really never thought about it this way.

Steroids only give 10-15% strength boosts?! I thought it would've been WAY more than that...

@jordanwilliams2701

Жыл бұрын

Tbf everyone responds differently to steroids and not sure if the study was conducted long enough or with a effective pool of lifters

@dkis8730

Жыл бұрын

It definitely is, tons of anecdotal reports with wayyyy more. Maybe it was for specifically weightlifting though, which is super form based

@Tom-vu1wr

10 ай бұрын

​@@dkis8730this means weight adjusted

love these video essays

Clarence with the best content.. thanks Clarence

Great video as always

10-15% is okay, but in powerlifting, it's extremely visible that it's closer to up to 20%+ Especially the last couple years, lifters have increased their squat from for example 290 (6+ years of training) all the way up to 350 after only 10 months... That's almost 20% in only 10 months of lifting enhanced...

I enjoy hearing these thoughts!

Senpai Clarence make more videos. Greeting from Germany

I dig the Zelda and chill Lofi in the sponsor plug 😊

Regarding your point on psychology: there have been (and are) many people who were very publicly against something that they themselves were guilty of. So I don't think it's a great marker of honesty. People don't always act rationally and can often do things that go against their apparent interests, e.g. due to feelings of shame and guilt.

do you think russel orhii is natural? he claims natty like everyday on his insta lmao

@a-a-rondavis9438

Жыл бұрын

GVS has refined his opinion on someone like Russell and thinks he's natural now. Considering Russell is Nigerian, and there is a mind-blowing concentration of strength genes there, and every story about "that Nigerian that works out in my gym" is about insane genetics and muscle belly definition, I'd guess Russell is just top-tier natty and we can actually see how far Nigerian genes can go with abundance of resources like food and training regimes. Who ACTUALLY knows, I guess nobody but Russell. But I'm willing to bet more people are natty than we think.

Thank you for your honesty

Nice video as always

Was just watching this man earlier and then he drops. Sheesh

Keep the content rolling 👍🏽 We need more Clarence vids

Thanks. It's informative.

Nice thoughts! Thanks!

The 10% rule seems logical if comparing the natty vs enhanced numbers of a genetically elite individual that has actually reached their natty ceiling. My issue with the 10% statement as a general guideline is that I think it ignores the fact that enhanced lifters can get away with a lot of lapses in programming and nutrition. Being enhanced raises the floor, or the minimum amount of effort required to achieve an amazing result.

@lukassky8997

Жыл бұрын

Increased regeneration, bigger strength, faster growth. Without PEDs you get to your natty max after 15-20 years of hard work. With PEDs maybe 5 years, then you start going beyond.

@yewtewbstew547

Жыл бұрын

@@lukassky8997 15-20 is a long time but if you're talking absolute 100% of your natural potential then yeah it is probably up there. It's even more nuts when you look at the difference in "short term" gains though imo. Like I'd say you can hit about 80-90% of your "natty max" within 3-5 years if you do everything right, then after that you're just grinding for incremental improvement. But if you hop on gear from day 1, you can hit that 80-90% level in about 1 year. Obviously drug/dose dependent. It's crazy to see. There was a gym I used to go to with a lot of PEDs going about where I saw that happen nearly every year. Because I'd see the skinny kids coming in fresh out of high school at like 140lbs, then some of them would start talking to the older regulars who were openly on gear. Then I'd see them again next summer and they'd be pushing 190lbs with veins popping out and acne everywhere. Then next summer they're 220lbs and glowing red lol. When people see top level strength athletes and bodybuilders they'll often say things like "yeah but they still had to work hard to get there." And to be fair, that is usually true. But when we're just talking about the people who are on gear yet still merely hovering around the upper limits of what they could have achieved naturally, those guys are just pissing about, they're not working hard at all.

@nenkobaylov2470

Жыл бұрын

@@yewtewbstew547 You will reach, but most do not reach that potential due to personal life or frequent injuries. I trained naturally until a month ago, anabolic steroids make a big difference, the fact is that they also damage our body. It is best to take testosterone with another preparation that protects against gynecomastia. Even with only testosterone (testosterone is the base without it, don't take anything else) small doses give good results, otherwise you harm your body.

Hey Clarence, im curious if you do anything for a living instead of youtube and patreon( i dont know about othet src of income of urs), its just that u succeed so much on the strength and athletics, that i dont see a window for a normal person to start and succeed that way u did, even tho such person a very good time management skills. Ur awesome, thx ;)

This video is so good!

Solid video

I'm glad my fellow Belgian Tom Goegebuer is mentioned here. He's been fighting for a clean image for weightlifting for years.

I’m just a simple man. I see a Clarence video I press like before watching :)

Culture, character, financial incentives, the 10% rule. Would be interesting to assign a point scale to each of these and come up with a mathematical formula for fake-natty likelihood.

Watching the video and hearing a track from Celeste (witch is my favourite platformer) in the later half of the video is awesometacular.

Got a 10kg PR on my Squat just because Clarence started posting again

Yo Clarence is popping off

Clarence0 the goat !!!

Toshiki is natural

@clarence0

Жыл бұрын

I think he's natural but his squat is on steroids

@BaldOmniMan

Жыл бұрын

@@clarence0 based

@gildonge

Жыл бұрын

in seriousness though, is Toshiki natural?

@neohubris

Жыл бұрын

does the 10% rule work with him?

@vredneckv

Жыл бұрын

@@neohubris If applied to his snatch and c&j then I'd say yes. For his squats, not so much. On the other hand he's a genetic freak with perfect leverages for squatting, so you never know.

love the ender lilies in the background

Tbh, not all people in the gym with gyno are on gear. I'm one of those people. The reason I went to the gym was to try and get rid of my gyno and to no one's surprise it didn't work. I have a pretty average build and maybe slightly above average numbers for my weight and age, so no thinks I'm on gear.

@S13iPNiR

Жыл бұрын

I feel you, bro.

never thought id see the day that clarence does a paid sponsorship

I was just listening to the Celeste soundtrack right before this video and was like "did I leave the soundtrack on?"...before realizing you put it in the background of this video. 🙂

10% my ass, anyone who took PEDs competitively knows it's more like 20%. PEDs don't only boost strenght, most importantly they boost recovery, which for weightlifting is immense advantage, since it will tremendously improve not just your strenght, and speed, and power, but also your technique. Imagine training 2x as frequent, and 2x more intense, with 2x more volume, than some natty, over 10 years of time. For example: would Ilya CJ 220 as natty? No fukin way. He would be 3 weight classes lighter and lift less than 200. Also, PEDs allow the athlete to reach heavier weight categories gaining "unnatural" amounts of muscle mass they couldn't get otherwise, which is also huge in weightlifting, since the shorter athlete with more muscle mass/lower bodyfat% has advantage, inside the same weight class.

@Tom-vu1wr

10 ай бұрын

Idk I think the 10% thing does work

@Tom-vu1wr

10 ай бұрын

Because you should be considering weight adjusted

Great video. What's the videogame used as the background for the beginning of the video? (such as at 0:43)

So Base on the 10% rule, whoever holds the #1 record is certainly enhanced ?

@chrism45

Жыл бұрын

If the remaining competitors aren't close then yes. Lasha is a good example. He's so much better than the others there's no way he's natural.

7:50 Strategic Russel Orhii placement.

Nice! Tank you Clarence

Digging the Celeste background music. Fantastic game

Saw the news today and came back

that was the best transition to an add, ever

Ok we’ll get checked, Clarance using Clarence25

Clarence is going down the video essay era.

I would disagree with the 10% for powerlifting. It's closer to 20% at the same bw and maybe 30% at lets say 10% higher bw.

3 videos in a month, christmas came early

10% hah, I've seen guys go from pressing light dumbells under 100 to pressing 150s with ease under complete control. Tren heads!

I personally have reservations about the 10% method. Maybe it works more for strength movement only like squat or deadlift, but when it comes down to Olympic lifts there are just so many factors. For instance, in terms of absolute numbers, snatch heavily relies on arm length. After the strength reaches a certain level the arm length or the body proportion in general determines how much one can snatch. C&J relies on different types of strength in all parts of the body. It's easy to have a bottleneck somewhere even if one's enhanced. I doubt the strength levels of all body parts will respond to PEDs by the same proportion, not to mention that the whole is not the sum of the parts, not that simple; therefore the conversion rate is unlikely be 100%. As a result even if one's strength increased by 10% after taking PEDs, it's unlikely that their two Olympic lifts will also increase by the same proportion.

@thechosenone93

Жыл бұрын

Explain to me what you meant by the arm length affecting the snatch

@dustinl308

Жыл бұрын

@@thechosenone93 Other things being equal, athletes with arm length will snatch more weight because they can pull and catch the bar higher. Lu Xiaojun explained this point pretty clearly in the video "REVEALED: LU XIAOJUN's top secret for the SNATCH"

@thechosenone93

Жыл бұрын

@@dustinl308 Ah thanks for that. And does that mean that long armed lifters will clean less ?

@dustinl308

Жыл бұрын

@@thechosenone93 Technically lifters with long femurs will struggle more in clean, but generally long arms and long femurs go together, so yes to some extent. Clean is not as dependent on body structure as snatch though. Developing greater leg strength and pulling strength can overcome that, although ppl who squat with long femurs are at a disadvantage.

@thechosenone93

Жыл бұрын

@@dustinl308 I believe that disadvantages can be overcome. So for my back squat,because of my longer legs/femurs I should squat to parallel or a little below it,and not ATG? Because I don’t feel any resistance and I have seen a certain professional weightlifter squat/front squat/full snatch to parallel? What’s your opinion on this?

The way you said Mike o tren had me 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Clarence what is your opinion on lifter Ryan Grimsland ?? Does he have the potential to be a world weightlifting champion??

Video titled “How to spot a fake natty” but there is minimal discussion on the topic.

10% is laughable. As someone who trains and has tried TRT, I can tell you it's way more than 10%, and that's only TRT! If you blasted 500mg/week and added Anavar and HGH I'm sure you would see insane strength results. I would guess the difference is up to 100% in a lot of cases, especially in a short time frame like 6 months.

@deadlifter-

Жыл бұрын

did you remain the same bodyweight and/or body composition after supplementing testosterone? the study the video references claims that it's a 10 percent increase only if you remain around the same bodyweight, clarence just forgot to mention that. the thing is people start taking gear and gain 20 lbs of lean mass, and of course the strength increase is going to be more than 10% if you're gaining a significant amount of muscle as well

@tristensifuentes1712

Жыл бұрын

do believe russwole is natty?

@JK-pp2xl

Жыл бұрын

There is no way you're getting over 10% on a true TRT dose. There is also no way you're getting 100% increase with just 500mg of test. That means you're claiming before I went on TRT and my max bench was 315, my max is now 345. Or in your theory, if I did 500mg blast for 20 weeks you think my max would move to 630lbs. Sorry dude, you legit have no idea what you're talking about.

@AT-tl7oe

Жыл бұрын

The 10% rule applies to your strength numbers when at your natural peak I think.

@atp180

Жыл бұрын

​@@JK-pp2xl I think a lot of pro powerlifters would disagree. There was this powerlifter who appeared on a Bradley Martyn video that was talking about how he started training less than 2 years ago and he's squatting 800+. You think he could squat 720 naturally in 2 years of training? 😂 If you can bench 350 natural, blasting a cycle for a decent amount of time would get you a high 500's bench, assuming you're heavy enough to begin with.

Thank you, King

clarrence...would u say that your fliping skills had tremendous amount of carryover to your olympic weightlifting skill?

Does anyone know the backgroud clarence used in the video when talking? With the big purple tree etc

I would definitely be interested in finding a lab that can find the genes in DNA that determine what your strength and weaknesses are to workout around it.

@N3G4T3

Жыл бұрын

The main difficulty with that would be environmental factors, which can heavily influence genes.

@ryanrogers8211

Жыл бұрын

google strength gene testing and a few places will come up. It's around 150 dollars and if you have done 23&me you can send them that data. It really doesn't help though. I found out that i'm genetically pre-disposed to cardio but I still like to lift heavy.

Interesting. I'm not sure that I'd personally agree with your definition of a Fake Natty. For me, competing enhanced in a tested environment is akin to lying outright. However, I have never competed at a seriously high level, and I have watched your videos on different countries and their differing anti-doping protocols, so I understand why our opinions may differ. Interesting application of the 10% rule too, that's new to me. Thanks for the thought-provoking video.

@scottbrodersen6819

Жыл бұрын

I think this falls under the discussion of cultural values -- some cultures are OK with doping even though it's "against the rules" (nudge nudge wink wink). I would think that for those people, evading positive tests is just another aspect of the sport -- it iS the sport. Also, we work on the assumption of innocent until proven guilty -- there's no need to declare your innocence, so why do it?

@hamm0155

Жыл бұрын

I think this relies on the culture and general state of the sport, (rather than the culture of the nation from which the person comes). In weightlifting, the winners have presumably been all, or almost all drug-users for a long time, in the men's division at least. So, the Chinese lifter is not really cheating against their Iranian or Russian competitor. In drug-tested powerlifting, this may not be the case, so the story would be different.

@michaelkhan7012

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I think he's bias cause he's on the juice but I completely agree that's 100% fake natty lol

@cameronburnard2301

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WADA is a fake natty institution. People can get away with it and that is a problem with the institution, the rules of the game that dictate how people can behave. It isn't yet that cheating is easily monitorable due to regional differences in testing, designer PEDs, etc. WADA allows it to be possible possibly because it is too costly (e.g. Carbon isotope testosterone test which is a better alternative to the current testosterone test method, expanding the drug testing program's scope to more PEDs...). When they do this, they are in effect knowingly allowing some PED users through the cracks. In a similar way they are fallible in the realm of politics, letting more through the cracks perhaps due to corruption. WADA is the problem.

Lol I love the narration when he shows pandas picture pushing supplements

There’s a simple equation. You take the outline of their trap muscles, and if they look like the circumference of a basketball, PEDS. lol

What is that gamplay in the background from?