I'm three months into bowling and some days everything goes well and I hit a new personal high score (228 two weeks ago) or close to it (217 earlier this week), while on other days, I get more splits and I miss more single pin spares than I care to remember. Watching some of the others bowling in the adjacent lanes, I wondered if I should change my release... if my axis tilt is too low. Then I had that Eureka moment watching this video... when you said the semi-roller is (some would argue) the most desired roll. I'm a semi-roller. I'll just keep practising, working on being more consistent with my footwork, swing and release. Thank you for your videos.

Arthur, entertaining and super informational... Keep doing great things for the sport of bowling 🎳 👍🏽😊👌🏽

Arthur, you just keep getting better!

@ArtOfBowling

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Have to give some of the credit to our great producer, writing staff, Art department, film crew and directors!!!!

Good episode Art! Now, if I can get some coffee to go with that sweet roll!

@ArtOfBowling

4 жыл бұрын

Ninzio got the last one!

Thank yo for best and wise replay for tracks. I have spinner rolling delivery. Axis tilt more than 30 degrees. Now I try to make axis 10-15 digrees next time in practis. Do i have to chance my drillings with fingers and thump, more inside or reward? Wil there be some help. I have really big trouble to get my ball semi roller.

Lol!!! I love the Humor ! Keep it up!

@ArtOfBowling

4 жыл бұрын

Humor is a very effective teaching tool it makes things memorable, gives us a mental picture to see things better. Also holds the lesson from last years annual meeting to keep bowling fun!

I love it when you came to our school thank you

@ArtOfBowling

4 жыл бұрын

You are welcome I had a great time talking to you guys about bowling and the opportunities it presents!

Love this guy.

Hey, I'm dyin' over here!

I enjoy your videos

My roll is all of these. I can’t get a consistent release so I do all of these unintentionally. It’s annoying because most of them end up in the gutter.

I use to be a full roller years ago but barely. It was in between my thumb and fingers but just barely. In fact if I did not release clean I took a chance on rolling over the thumb and did ever so often. Then I stopped bowling for 15 years and when I came back I was a little in between a spinner and semi but had some bad habits due to bad joints. I am a semi roller now and love it. The key for me was to really keep my palm turned up and keep my elbow close to the body and follow through. I was letting my elbow out and had a big hook I was having a hard time controlling it. I actually have lost a lot of hook and most of the time play straighter in the heavy oil and not on the outside as much. When I stopped trying to achieve the largest hook I can and rolled the bowl end over end forward my average took off I started carrying more strikes. You have to be a powerful bowler and a lot of back swing and match revs to ball speed to get a huge hook to pay off. 4 shoulder surgeries on the right arm kind of throws that out the window for me now, and I also had both hips cut on in the last couple years and fixing to have my left replaced due to necrosis, so I had to change. It is so much easier for me to be consistent this way now. Anyone with to much angle that is not a semi roller should try to make it part of their game. If nothing else It is just another tool when the lanes transition and you keep having your ball run away to the left.

@ArtOfBowling

2 жыл бұрын

A great example for other bowlers to learn from. Thank you!

@jvmiller1995

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArtOfBowling Thank you so much. I get a lot out of your videos. I have shared them with some of my fellow bowlers especially one of them that teaches the high school kids. Only if KZread was a thing when I started I would not have so many bad habits. But it is never to late to learn. Thanks again

Just found out the channel, Arthur this was briljant!

@ArtOfBowling

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Glad you found us.

Lets go. Best teacher

@ArtOfBowling

4 жыл бұрын

You guys were grest I had a blast the last two days!!!!!

Great video.

@ArtOfBowling

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly one of my favorites too!!!

Semi Roller in the house!! 😄

I am a spinner. Never knew it was called that. It always made me crazy my oil line was so far away from the holes, now I know why. I would like to be a semi*roller.. are there drills or a way to change?

Problem! I rarely see any oil on my bowling ball! A little here and there on a fresh sport shot but only a spot here and there, not a full visible ring.

cranker spinner or full roller seems like you misspoke. That would be like saying "do you like apples, oranges, or Volkswagen? Cranker tweener and stroker generally have do with rev rate. Full roller is a track starting point That said, I've enjoyed your videos, keep them up!

Your service was impeccable! Now, if I could just get my alley to serve ME some good rolls..... ;-) Seriously, I'm understanding from looking at a few charts that my Axis Tilt of 33-37 degrees is "high." Does that mean when I get my next layout that it can be done to "compensate" for that and make the axis tilt lower, so that it starts to roll sooner??

@ArtOfBowling

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks charles looking for that next video how is the game going

@charlesdoyle2161

4 жыл бұрын

@@ArtOfBowling Striking more! Just need consistency. Video coming your way today!

I pretty consistently get a track halfway between semi-roller and spinner with two-hand bowling. My rev rate isn't phenomenal, though, but I guess it gets the job done.

What about the new no thumb layouts

I'm somewhere between the spinner and the semi roller but I want to fix it to just the semi when I use my hook ball to pick up spares the tracks are just like the semi tracks here but when I throw for a strike its closer to the spinning track HOW DO I FIX IT?

@ArtOfBowling

2 жыл бұрын

will be covered in a upcoming video

@JoeBrrFan

Жыл бұрын

@@ArtOfBowling Have you made this video yet. I would love to see it.

I am not a fan of the semi roller. The ball seems to stall and stop hooking? So, if your shot is not heading tight to the 1/3, it’s not going to keep turning giving you less pin action.

@wingracer1614

6 ай бұрын

Same here. I just get no back end semi roller. Cocking my wrist to get more tilt gives a more spinner like track, cleaner fronts and snappier back end

I have a lot of balls drilled differently but my track is always the same so I must be rolling the ball well and consistent right?

@ArtOfBowling

4 жыл бұрын

How far from the finger holes is youy track

@xPandora__

4 жыл бұрын

@@ArtOfBowling it is just a bit more closer to my middle finger than what you showed for as a semi roller. I'm a 2 hander no thumb bowler if that info helps

I'm in between a semi-roll to a spinner but am a good enough bowler to change it when necessary. Only roll I can't execute is the full roller.

@jvmiller1995

2 жыл бұрын

It was the thing in the 70's and 80's but the game has evolved and with modern equipment you are better off not being a full roller. I use to be one years ago.

@ou812true5

6 ай бұрын

I bowled in the 70's and 80's and the full roller was not a thing. It was unusual and rare.​@@jvmiller1995

my rolls go straight over the holes, when I got my newest ball the pro shop I went to said he would drill it so it no longer does that but it still does. is this bad to roll straight over your holes? Ive been bowling about 2 months now and am averaging 160 most nights and some im around 180 and I have 10 200 games my highest being a 234. Im kinda worried to re drill the ball and not like it as much as I do now.

@ArtOfBowling

2 жыл бұрын

could be a release problem...would hsve to see it

@robertgoff7996

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArtOfBowling so it shoukdnt roll right over the holes?

@ArtOfBowling

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertgoff7996 no it should not

I used to have the very first roll you showed my team mates are making me hold the ball with my hand underneath now but now my ball doesn’t roll almost at all. It glides down the lane rolling over the last foot or two before the pins...

@ArtOfBowling

3 жыл бұрын

Hand positions are a funny thing. As teammates are not the best coaches. They are great at seeing the effect but missing the cause. Jasmine find a great local coach if youd like i might be able to find one in your area.

@jasminetaylor2799

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtOfBowling I wasn’t sure if there were any coaches In my part of Wyoming

What about an inverted track

Good video, but what is considered the pro roll? or rephrased the roll considered to be the ball motion achieved by the professionals?

@malugime5212

4 жыл бұрын

r7709y 🤔🤔🤔

@ArtOfBowling

4 жыл бұрын

Most can chsnge it depending on conditions.

cheers!

@ArtOfBowling

4 жыл бұрын

To you also its good to be back to coaching

Im none of these.. help.. haha I am low tilt like 5 degrees and 75-80 degrees of axis rotation. My ball tracks close to my fingers and thumb. My PAP is 5 and 5/8 over by 1 and 1/8 up

@ArtOfBowling

3 жыл бұрын

That would make you either a tweener of semi roller

1:18 The Helicopter? I thought this was called Aunt Susan who's never bowled before? 🤣

@ArtOfBowling

3 жыл бұрын

Big in the far east china, Taiwan. 12 pound balls with conventional grips. This guy won a worl championship using it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6Gfz8txk7C6YJs.html

@ArtOfBowling

3 жыл бұрын

Not as much as some of our fans

@theamflitebowler

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtOfBowling 11lbs is recommended, I do bowl Helicopter & also Hook

Im right handed, What about my track lines going over the middle finger and thumb holes?

@ArtOfBowling

Жыл бұрын

ummm...not good

@scorpion-ninja8228

Жыл бұрын

@@ArtOfBowling Last league season, I rarely threw over the middle finger and thumb holes. This season its all the time. I have no idea what Im doing to cause it.

@ArtOfBowling

Жыл бұрын

@@scorpion-ninja8228 hard to tell without seeing your releasefind your pap so you can see it once you see it you may be able to change it

So if my oil track is more of a spinner, is it necessarily a bad thing?

@daveconleyportfolio5192

2 жыл бұрын

No, I've known good bowlers who've thrown spinners. They are often more consistent across a variety of lane conditions, because the ball never hooks much. You don't get great carry but you can have a nice average. Plus the same shot works for spares.

@JoeBrrFan

Жыл бұрын

Me too. Always wondered why it was so far away from my fingers. Now I know. And sounds like it's not a bad thing after all.

My roll goes over the finger holes what would that roll be considered?

@ArtOfBowling

4 жыл бұрын

Id have to see where it is rolling around the ball. It could be a full roller with a drilling not quite right for your roll

@howiehammond2272

4 жыл бұрын

@@ArtOfBowling Ok, thanks for the feedback! 👍👍👍

That old guy in this video looks familiar. Did he live in Schenectady, ny ?

@ArtOfBowling

3 жыл бұрын

Nunzi...Ill have to ask...I see him every Friday...

So apparently I have such a high track that it literally rolls over the far left edge of my middle finger. I'm a two handed (no thumb) bowler though that recently transitioned over after 30+ years of bowling the conventional way (thumb in ball) righty. Is it bad that my track is that high up? Does it mean my balls layouts should've been done a little differently? I just recently got all 5 balls thumb holes plugged and new layouts done since I was switching over to a 2H (no thumb) style and my PSO didn't even care to watch me throw the ball to do any adjustments with my PAP as a 2H compared to my old 1H PAP. Is it true that he didn't even need to see how I throw the ball 2H before laying out my balls? It's like he took my PAP of all the years I bowled as a conventional (thumb in ball) righty and just assumed what layout would work decent enough after making the switch.

@ArtOfBowling

2 жыл бұрын

yes just plugging might not work your pap changed with the switch....read manufacturers suggested layouts for two handers...discuss with pso...we shouldn't be over the fingers

The UFO roll

Ok you forgot my roll! I track closer to the fingers than the thumb.

You never explained how to find your "track" or what a "track" is or even what it looks like on a bowling ball or when or how it is created. You assume new bowlers understand this. Obviously it is not a white grease mark line appearing on the ball after you have rolled it. What is the procedure for finding your track?

@ArtOfBowling

3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes when we cover things in past videos we try not to be repeat ourselves.... This is the video on finding your pap kzread.info/dash/bejne/haajtMGqna-2n5s.html

My roll wasn’t on the menu....I’m a no thumb bowler.

“Can I get a little service around here for a change???!!! “

@ArtOfBowling

2 жыл бұрын

his name is really nunzio too!!!

Good video. Except the "helicopter roll". What you threw was palm up no rotation, and the ball was rotating backwards. In order to execute helicopter you need to twist your wrist on the horizontal to the ground plane.

@ArtOfBowling

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the clarification!

@exesemas

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArtOfBowling You're welcome! It can be hard to do it, if the wrist doesn't have good mobility in that plane.

@theamflitebowler

2 жыл бұрын

There's no need to twist our wrist, using the thumb to push & creating the helicopter spin or by using the fingers to spin is another way. Wrist spinning is wrong.

@exesemas

2 жыл бұрын

@@theamflitebowler If you don't twist the wrist then you twist the elbow. There has to be some rotation, the fingers and thumb can't do it alone. I 've never seen even one helicopter style kee both elbow and wrist firm, and spin the ball just with fingers. In any case, this video shows it completely wrong anyway.

Ok who's next"...🗣️Can I get a little service here for a change. 🤣🤦🏻‍♂️

My roll is spinner

Great accent

@ArtOfBowling

4 жыл бұрын

Brooklyn is my secomd language!

Why the helicopter roll is not famous outside asia? Lol

@ArtOfBowling

4 жыл бұрын

Ever bern to where I bowl in Flushing New York?

I am so embarrassed. I have been bowling since I was 5 ( I'm almost 40) and have no clue what he is talking about. I know nothing about different rollers or tracks . Wow

LETS GO METS! ;)

@ArtOfBowling

3 жыл бұрын

I just had a jersey made for Art of Bowling