I liked the idea of having the adhesive perpendicular to the board to allow draining but the concrete has to slope. If the water pools it may over time degrade the adhesive. Maybe look into marine grade epoxy or adhesive.

I'm a retired master carpenter, I wish I had the tools and materials that is out today.. I retired about 20 years ago.. I can only imagine How much easier it would have been.. Back in the day, it didn't matter that you were a master or learning, framing and general construction is what you mainly did.. If I had a dollar for every deck I built, Lot's of dollars, LOL.. Thank you for sharing.. As an old dog now, I still love learning new methods and seeing the progress of the tools and how much easier it is to do our trade then it was during my time... After a long day of swinging a hammer, I was tired and ready to sleep..

I have used liquid nails products for years for commercial work and at home. Done correctly with suitable conditions it should last a lifetime. Glue and screw is very effective.

@beatch42

Жыл бұрын

Glue and screws are so effective my father swore he would never do it again upon a kitchen remodel when he had to take apart glued and screwed sheathing off the floor that he installed years ago

@tonychavez4056

11 ай бұрын

​@@beatch42lesson lived through and learned. Wow.

Most composite decking requires clear air space under it for proper ventilation. If it does not, they tend to cup or deform.

It seems ok, but my only meh part of it is the screw has nothing to bite into. Maybe force some plastic in the hole, glue it than screw just so it can bite down?

What made the work of drilling quick was the hammer drill selection.

Flat shims where you put the screws and not press too much on the glue. That way it will dry and let some flexibility instead of getting crushed by the screw and prevent the water to drain properly.

Put a 18gauge finish nail(from a brad nailer)in the hole then the screw

Super job!

L- Nail will dry up and will get areas that will float.

Good job, I think with the glued boards, and the glue under each nail, that deck will last for years to come. Might even be too difficult to replace haha.

@tonychavez4056

11 ай бұрын

Dont want to be that guy

@quirkasaurussaurus2896

11 ай бұрын

a very valid consideration

Damn right at the end you pull the bit out and the top hits the decking while vacuuming I saw it 😂 Done it a million times on other projects but great job

I am Sure it will hold up for a Number of years. But, over time, it Might need to be fixed. Since concrete expands and contracts and can hold moisture too. the Liquid Nail/Adhesive over time Might become Brittle or just break down due that. Making the Board become Loose, While also loosing up the Screw that was drilled into it as well. But, really Hard to Say How Long it will Last. Could be a Year could be 100 years. Just Don't Know when.

Looks solid!

Based on what I've read about Fuze It Max, I would say it will be fine and I'd be confident with it holding for a long time. My first thought would've been some sort of landscape construction adhesive. Sometimes you just gotta make an educated guess unless you know someone who has done it and witnessed the outcome many years later lol.

Very nice 👍

That concrete slab would be completely against the rules here. It is not isolated, not probably sealed and too high which makes the threshold wrong and is the reason you have to "cheat" with the Decking panel. I also think that the boards are too close to the building- WPC does still expand quiet a bit in the sun, especially when it is that dark

It's gonna come down to how much the rest of the floor settles. It looks damn good doe!

Looks good, and I bet that customer was happy.

Amazing 🤩

Glue it and screw it all day baby, great work!

Use sika flex instead. Better than liquid nails, mainly because of outdoors. Liquid nails is awesome for stair treads and subfloors.

I have been wanting to put something sturdy and permanent on my screened in patio in the back of my home. Can I glue these trex boards down on there?

Call Liquid Nails ... Speak with their tech department and ask them if your adhesive is going hold. They will ask you: what is the relative humidity of your concrete? What is the pH? Environmental factors? What type of Surface preparation did you do before applying adhesive? Then they will give you their opinion

Why not just build a low deck over top of the concrete probably would’ve been cheaper with the labor but I agree with another comment depending where you are i.e. what state cold winters are going to do damage on that

@wesleymarshall7400

11 ай бұрын

I believe he would have to chip the concrete down in this scenario in order to make it work because there's only an 1" it looks like much simpler less time consuming and no giant mess to clean up

From experience the liquid nails isn't waterproof but good thing you have screws holding it down.

I would say the adhesive "anchor" won't last forever. I would have used a lead or plastic concrete anchor.

Did he just Glue that screw in???

@415_Stand-up

11 ай бұрын

Yup 😂😂

Next time try PL3 or PL8 and mist lightly the surface with water before applying the adhesive. It will be impossible to remove

Isn't the glue gonna prevent the board from expanding as needed?

It will hold up for a good long while.

I would have used anchors with the screws.

Put a piece of wire in the hole before the screw. It will never move

@brandonchurch1983

11 ай бұрын

Yep that's the old school way to anchor

@davidmiller4594

11 ай бұрын

Even with a nail.

I think it will

What is that screw doing? 😆

@Cheepchipsable

Жыл бұрын

Holding the board down until the glue dries.

@Jacob-ft3oz

Жыл бұрын

@@Cheepchipsable it's not a concrete anchor. It's not doing anything at all... the glue he put in the hole isn't doing anything either

@objc

11 ай бұрын

Yea, that screw is useless, drilled out too much, not enough glue and it’s not touching the concrete or it would have broken

@bvictory5698

11 ай бұрын

If you have ever used those screws you would know it has two different thread sizes on them and the only way it got buried is if there was tension, which means he drilled an adequate size hole that the threads touched the outside of the hole. Even if it’s only in the deck board, it’s keeping the rest of the boards from moving and once the glue sets up it will have a substantial hold on the board and screw. Don’t see anything wrong w this application.

@objc

11 ай бұрын

@@bvictory5698 if the concrete hole is oversized, which is what it looks like, then the cortex screw is just going to pull through the deck board and sit in the concrete hole ineffectively. at best the glue is holding the screw in the concrete which is pretty pointless since he glued the board down anyway.

Nothing holds up overtime

Hi maybe you can help, we have a 18 by 35 backyard. should we do deck, concrete, pavers or grass. which would be most cost saving, we spent to much money on the interior of the house and about broke now😅😅, from your experience. We live in nyc so 4 season. I was thinking low profile decking, but would I have to lay concrete before decking or can I just lay decking over the exiting mud

@samanderson7745

11 ай бұрын

Only concrete you would need for a new deck would be the piers at each post. Local codes have specifications for how deep the piers have to be and how the post can be attached to it. But never lay your joists straight onto the ground, they'll rot out quicker than a meth addicts teeth. Decks can get expensive, especially if it has to have a railing and if you go with composite. Depending on the pavers you go with the cost could be about the same as the deck or way more expensive, there's a lot of variation price with those. Grass is your cheapest upfront but water, fertilizer, mowing (ie gas and blades), ect... as well as the labor to keep up with can be more expensive and demanding long term. Artificial turf is also an option, the upfront cost would probably be similar to the patio but you don't typically have the maintenance cost down the road, however, it can get pretty hot on the feet during hot days. At the end of the day it's up to you, the homeowner, to decide what you would like and what you think you can live with best.

@GreaseMonkChronicles

11 ай бұрын

@@samanderson7745 thank you so much for your input .

I hope I'm wrong but I'm not sure it's going to hold up

Why not just tear out that step?

Glue blows. Especially in cold weather or wet areas so basically it sucks.

Imagine trying to tell a client this is legit

It will hold up for 500 years.

Scratched it the f up 😂

Man’s really said he used poop particles 😮🤙💥😬⛏🍪🙄🤦‍♂️💜😳🐸🌳🍷🧢🏡🙄🧗‍♀️

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37 years later.....

Hell no…. Concrete takes CONCRETE FASTENERS… thought that was obvious…

You would have been fine with the liquid nail as long as you prep the concrete property

@SkylineTwinSpoolysnail

Жыл бұрын

A little extra security won’t hurt. Those fasteners will definitely make that last a few more years for sure.

It doesn't matter what we think. Its done it either will or wont

They make concrete screws

Chem fix would’ve been better in the hole, just saying.

absolutely will hold .nice work

I’m not sure I wouldn’t have use like a 3m 5200. Made for wet and harsh applications like that

A lot of water is just going to be trapped in there. Mold, fungus, bacteria, and eventually....smell.

aye....she'l hold.

No composite boards are awful in time you will regret using them

No.

Better fill that hole with a bunch of wooden toothpicks

No, those shitty screws don't hold to wood! I've had some break after 2 years!!!!

Whole thing seems dumb. Sorry 😔

@bobbygetsbanned6049

11 ай бұрын

It's a great way to waste money on composite decking when you already have a concrete slab.

I think the screws weren’t necessary but yea

Sticks like shit I’s good stuff to

You will know in 2yrs

Nope….. maybe a few years but not 20

It’s not perfect as of right now.

They coulda just bought deck tiles and it woulda been a 2 hour job without the glue and screws

Hell no 😂jk good job man

Absolutely not

thank you

Absolutely