How to RUN OUT in 8-Ball on a BAR BOX
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Dr. Dave runs out 15 racks of 8-ball on a "bar box," with challenging layouts and problems to solve. Detailed analysis and advice is provided to help you understand the thought process of run-out pool. Enjoy! If you disagree with any of the ball group, shot, or pattern choices, please post comments with MM:SS timestamps and explain what you would have done differently.
Content:
0:00 - Intro
1:06 - Rack 1
4:06 - Rack 2
5:33 - Rack 3
7:34 - Rack 4
9:41 - Rack 5
11:03 - Rack 6-15
13:23 - Wrap Up
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- “Amazing 8-BALL "CHEAT CODE" ... 2nd-Ball-Break with a Side Gap to Pocket the 8” video: • Amazing 8-BALL "CHEAT ...
- “Run-Out Examples with Commentary and Instruction” playlist: • Dr. Dave 8-Ball RUN-OU...
- System for Aiming With Sidespin (SAWS): billiards.colostate.edu/faq/s...
- 8-ball resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/g...
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*Content:* 0:00 - Intro 1:06 - Rack 1 4:06 - Rack 2 5:33 - Rack 3 7:34 - Rack 4 9:41 - Rack 5 11:03 - Rack 6-10 13:23 - Wrap Up *Supporting Resources:* - Video Encyclopedia of Eight Ball (VEEB): drdavebilliards.com/videos/8-ball/ - “8-Ball RUN-OUTS and BREAK ADVICE” video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/l3t1p8h-Z5S9gMY.html - “How to RUN OUT in 8-BALL … Pattern Play Strategy Analysis and Advice” video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmeXqI9sg8Wan8o.html - “Amazing 8-BALL "CHEAT CODE" ... 2nd-Ball-Break with a Side Gap to Pocket the 8” video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h4OFxbBraZzbp6g.html - “Run-Out Examples with Commentary and Instruction” playlist: kzread.info/dash/bejne/l3t1p8h-Z5S9gMY.html - System for Aiming With Sidespin (SAWS): billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/saws/ - 8-ball resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/game/8-ball/ - 8-ball break resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/8-ball/ - 8-ball strategy resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/strategy/8-ball/ *Subscribe to Dr. Dave's KZread Channel:* kzread.info
@joachimfuchs7061
Жыл бұрын
Who plays on so small tables??
Great video. Would be interested to see the racks you didn't run as this would be much more common for most players including myself. Addressing issues such as what to do when you get stuck without a shot, when do you decide you can't run out and when to stop making balls, strategies for playing safe during all phases of game (beginning, middle, and end), and avoiding one ball hell.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Good idea. I'll add it to my list.
@hellstrike5366
2 жыл бұрын
I 2nd that, IMO you can learn as much if not more from failure than success. Keep up the great content Dr. Dave!
@joshuajones3214
2 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@enjoypool4052
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Thank you for this video I've been a pool video junkie since the early days of Accu-Stats. I would love to see the above poster video suiggestions. With all the 8 ball tapes out there I have never seen a tape that featured player review on a bar table.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
@@enjoypool4052 I am working on a couple of videos now dealing with 9-ball runs on a bar box. I will definitely include the full gamut of decision making and run-outs (successful and not). Stay tuned.
You've helped my game immensely, many thanks for that. You make the run-outs seem easy, and so obvious, it's mesmerizing to watch.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it. You're welcome, and good luck with your game.
DrDaveBilliards sir,i still watch your pool tutorials ,your the best!!! and thank you
@DrDaveBilliards
5 ай бұрын
Thanks. I plan to keep posting videos for a long time to come.
I'd love to see a video of running the same rack layout in different ways, letting us plan how we would play the rack, and then you explore why certain ways of running out are better/easier than others, and what the best pattern would be.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea. FYI, I already have lots of advice along these lines in the "Smart Run-Out Pool" video series near the bottom of the page here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-ball-control/ Check them out.
Thank you very much. Very helpful. I prefer the first part with comments, as it's my main motive to play with other people : seeing how they concieve the game- When you look at someone, it's what you can understand depending on your game level. With comments , it taking us to a further level.
You're awesome DD!!! Best instructional videos on the web! Great editing, and the attention to detail is always impressive!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you like my stuff.
Watching these runout videos has improved my strategy immensely thanks!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it. If you want a lot more help with with strategy and pattern play, check out the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/strategy/ and here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-ball-control/ Enjoy, and good luck with your game!
That was one smooth dance ! Great fun. Thanks Dave
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm glad you liked my moves.
Hi from Madagascar @DrDaveBilliards...I love and watch every single one of your videos.one thing though... Rack 1,first shot,10 ball carom into the solid 3 to top right corner(with your very own 30° rule)...you get the stripes...no need need for the risky 13 jump to the side...easy run out after that 😜
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Good idea. The shot isn't a gimmie, but the out would be a lot easier.
Another nice one, Dr. Thanks, again!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and you're welcome!
Great video! I liked this format a lot! Thanks. Helped me see some things.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it.
Excellent DrDave. Cheers bruv.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
Awesome video as always. Got me really excited to play today.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm glad to hear it.
I love that you did this Dave! Amateur players should take away a lot from this as most of them play 8ball barbox. Some nice outs. I just joined a league for the first time (APA in my area), and I'm flabbergasted by how many players don't really learn basic 8 ball strategy or practice. Keep it up! Good stuff.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm glad you think it is useful.
Thanks again for the video. Just so happens that I was practicing breaks on my bar box last night using the head ball only. Today I’ll practice the second ball break. The runout part I’ll have to work on.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
FYI, I have several good videos and lots of useful info dealing with the 2nd-ball break here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/8-ball/ Enjoy!
Most helpful as always Doc. I have about 60 videos of yours saved in a playlist. You took my game to a much higher level through the knowledge you've shared.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it. I hope your playlist continues to grow as I put out new videos.
@Zigarius1123
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards That it will, thanks again !
since im just beginning pool these provide so much information thank you so much for this
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
FYI, lots of good advice for beginners can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/beginner-help/ Enjoy, and good luck with your game!
Another great vid by DOCTOR D!!!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
*2nd ball break shot is excellent… for the ladies*
My billiards teacher at Dr. Dave the best ever ❤️ love from Uganda 🇺🇬
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Love back at you from USA.
Just the GOAT of pool instruction!! The bar box is certainly different. 9 ball is almost too easy, but 8 ball gets crowded, a player needs pretty precise cueball control to have any real success.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thank!! I agree with your comments about 9-ball and 8-ball on a bar box.
I have watched just about all of dr Dave's vids. Love em. I use a cte/shish kabob aim system , it works extremely well for me. Love how Dr dave moves the cue ball around the bar box with always 6,7,or even 8 balls on a bar box. Hard not to move the furniture. Great stuff and thank you.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like my stuff. Thanks for the comments. I use DAM for aiming: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/aiming/dam/#advice
@brianb0326
2 жыл бұрын
DAM !! I've seen that b4. Truth is , I was a BB player when young , using ghost ball and pre set ups. And as I am now much older , Using my shish kabob method , and still using a very strict pre shot routine is given me quite a bit more confidence. I can assure you , I will not qualify for the world open 8 or 9 ball championships. Lol Just ABSOLUTELY love the game. And watching your banking 1/3 more than twice , has made me a much stronger banker.
Another great video! Thanks!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and you’re welcome.
I’m jealous of the draw you can get on those tables. The bar boxes in my area draw is extremely difficult to execute.
@DrDaveBilliards
22 күн бұрын
The type of cloth and CB weight can make a big difference.
Oh yeah, well do it on a 3 foot table! Great video, thank you for putting this together.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. A 3’ table would be fun (if the balls were smaller). :)
Good stuff Sir! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Man I love pool so much.....thank you Dr Dave!!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I obviously love pool too. You're welcome.
@ethanletzer3507
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards 😂😂👍
Hello, Dr. Dave. Impressive run outs. I love your videos, i´m learning a lot with them. I´ve been playing for a year now and have improved quite a lot. Just a few things: 1) in rack 7, at 11:39 when you take back your cue to take the shot, you touched the 6 ball with it, that´s a foul, LOL. 2) I´m trying to learn to "read" the table (ball patterns) in 8 ball after the break. In your racks from 6-10 or in your other vids there is no time to see the layout before you took the first hit. I like to pause the vid when all balls stop, see the layout and try to imagine the patterns. So, please, if your make more of these vids, try to wait until the balls remain still and let 1 sec before taking the first shot. Thank you very much and keep all the good work. Greetings from Spain!
@DrDaveBilliards
3 ай бұрын
1) Good catch. Good thing I was playing under “CB fouls only” rules. :) 2) Good idea. I’m glad you like my stuff. Good luck with your game.
Dr Dave ..great video ! I have to say watching you shoot …and breaking out clusters and general high percentage position play … Wagon wheel Baaaaby ! Ha … love to see you practicing what you preach .
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it. Drills definitely help create useful skills.
Great content
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you think so.
Dr.Dave I love watching your videos. If only I had a young man's back to be able to devote myself to the practice I need. Even wearing a back brace, I can only play 6-8 games. I fully understand the need for cue ball control and over the years have given it a lot of thought. It caused me to come up with a new game to play. It would be a rack of fifteen balls broken and run with a cue ball that had accelerometers embedded that would be zeroed out at the start of each game and read for distance traveled at the end of each game. The breaker would continue to shoot until all 15 of the balls in his break were made. The person who had the shortest distance recorded from the cue ball would win. The whole purpose is to teach cue ball control.
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
I like it.
Great video as always but all pool aside I enjoy the classic rock music in the background 😂
Great video Dr. Dave! Very thorough. Just in time for my partner and I to watch together before our Jack and Jill tournament in an hour!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Good luck (and play well) in the tournament!
Love how big the valley table pockets are sometimes lol. But give me tight pockets any day of the week!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
The small table and big pockets does make it fun at time, being able to runout almost anything.
Truly enjoyable!!! Thanks again. A few racks had an "either/or" play with the same result; for the most part, would have played 'em pretty much the same as your choice (probably the wisest too). One of the greatest things about the game is the different ways (choices) to play. If a person were to explain each shot and why ---- Could they? Things would change from there, forcing "ahead" thinking ... or simply "TRAINING". With that -- a person HAS to WANT to get better. Do appreciate what ya do Dr. Dave! Be Safe
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for the comments.
"Your wish is my command". 😊 I honestly believe that people think some of your videos are too easy because you have such excellent ball control and they don't understand that your positioning is not a matter of luck. In other words, you make it look easy ...... but it isn't.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I aim to swerve. I also aim to keep the CB on a "leash."
@BackSeatHump
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards ... and you do both very well too. 🎱🏆
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
@@BackSeatHump Thanks.
Yeah...those looked way to easy...hehehe. Great video as always. Its starting to make sense as an APA 3 😁 so I really appreciate the online coaching n drills Dr Dave.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it.
11:27 holy cow, watch the cueball curve to a stop! Nice trick shot Dr. Dave :)
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
That's called a "delayed masse" shot. Just kidding. The Lord works in mysterious ways on bar boxes at times. :)
Great outs. The fundamentals were solid, which I find to sometime be a challenge on 7 ft tables because of how much easier it is to pocket the balls. There were a couple shots where from the camera angle seemed to be a little questionable as far as a good hit is concerned. During some league or tournament play the tables can be run down and can make it difficult to get a good rack, those outs are "fun".
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The challenges presented by a non-perfect bar box are often "fun."
Awesome. Thanks for the video. The last racks I played it in 0.75x speed, very interesting to watch.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Smart idea to watch the speed-up racks at a slower speed.
Hilarious intro. Great video!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
I want the Efren "Hehe I got lucky" as my notification ringtone
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Me too! Good idea.
good work..... i think most ppl cant believe it because they don't have the knowledge that you do.... trying to get to the top too quickly without learning the fundamentals.... I've been following your videos for 2 years and still trying to do the fundamentals on the table.... also, harder for us in Australia with english tables... the frpzen ball rail shots into corners arent as friendly .... :)
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Solid fundamentals are key. For those who want help with this, see the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/fundamentals/
Dave ... you should be on tour
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
It is one thing to be able to create convincing instructional videos. It is another thing entirely to play at the pro level, per the info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/advice/pro/ There are many things on the "list" that I am missing.
I have a similar table but I replaced the rails and have much tighter unforgiving pockets. And simonis 860
Dr. Dave U-Tubes always rock.💡. Great information. Wish Dr. Dave would do some how to play One Pocket better.💡
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I am actually planning work on a "Video Encyclopedia of One Pocket" (VEOP) project for later in the year. This one will be a ton of work, but I am really looking forward to it. It should come out by early next year.
@CocoboloCowboy
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards wishing you success on project, will to bet you will get right. Friend is OCD on products he sells, he don’t bring anything to market until It’s perfect, as perfect as it can be.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
@@CocoboloCowboy Thanks. I appreciate the vote of confidence.
TY!
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
YW!
Nuce vudeo and great explanations.., Are you using a weighted cue ball or standard? I can usually draw a standard cue ball close to length of table, but struggle with the weighted or oversized cue ball...
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
It is a standard size and weight. Oversized or heavy CBs are not very common anymore.
totally needed this lesson. I'm a derp mouth trying to figure out where to begin in 8.
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
FYI, I have lots of good 8-ball advice in the videos and via the links here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/game/8-ball/ Check it out.
To good
Rack 3 5:33 Since you made a low on the break, I would need to run out low balls first according to the rules of APA that I currently play(5/6sl). I would slow roll the 7 into the side pocket. Take the cut on the 2 ball next to the left corner pocket (my perspective) with follow to come back up table. Take the 6 next into the same corner pocket with slow follow to shoot the 5 up to the opposite corner with a stop shot. Stop the 3 ball into the side pocket across table. Take the hard cut on the 1 ball. Cross my fingers that the cue ball bumps the stripe that's right there to get it out of the way and keep the cue ball there and the take the 8 into the opposite side pocket for the win. Obviously, these shots work perfectly in my head, and I would probably be out of position by the 3rd or 4th ball and have to come up with a plan B but it's what I see initially. I've often been told that my shot selection can use some work so I would love and appreciate any feedback or alternatives!
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
Sounds good to me. Although, I'd be tempted to leave a natural angle on the 3 to get "short side shape" on the 1 in the upper-left corner.
@SarahsJewelryStudio
Жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards going short side hadn't even occurred to me as an option! Thanks for giving me something to look out for!
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
@@SarahsJewelryStudio You’re welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
It's funny because I won a barbox tournament years ago because pretty much all my opponents at the time would clear all open balls and leave the tied up balls last. Then, they would try some infinitesimally small percentage shot on those balls, miss and leave me open balls on the table for me to get out. It's like I stole the tournament not because of players' inability to make shots, but their extremely poor planning. Great video, Doc!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yep. It doesn't take much to win against opponents who don't play smart.
DD This really helps out APA and BCA League players because We ONLY play on these 7ft Diamond tables .. I think your on a Valley tho .. Thanks So much ..I play 4 nights a week ..
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Although, Diamonds play a little tougher than Valleys.
@Chris-mw8dr
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah , Diamonds play tougher Super fast table .. .. I play at J.O.Bs Billiards Club in Nashville,Tn ... We have like 30 Diamond tables and 3 - 9 ft. Diamonds and 1 Snooker table
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
@@Chris-mw8dr Diamonds also tend to kick and bank short, which I do not like: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bank-kick/Diamond
9:29 - You should have explained when you say “I should have used right spin to come in line with the ball” about why that works. From the relative perspective, that means your would have had a shot to put the cue ball “ahead of” the eight, as opposed to using slight backspin to bring it “behind” the eight. I think using this language to explain ball relations will help visualize more paths, and some of us will find certain paths significantly more useful, based on our skill levels or cue limitations.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I said "I should have used a touch of right spin to get a straighter shot at the 5." I should have said "the 3" instead (not "the 5"). I left a little too much angle on the 3-ball shot (after the 5-ball shot) making it more difficult to hold the CB for the 8. If I had left the shot straighter, I could have just rolled forward for an easy shot at the 3 and the 8.
@ElijahBobingerDragonogh
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Yes I’m sorry! This is exactly what I was trying to say. I just want you to explain options a bit more thoroughly, I guess.
Nice! The Efrain Reyes sounder!!!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I never get tired of that Efren audio clip.
13:05 Very nice shot!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I could say I did the jump bank on purpose, but I would be lying. That was a fluke and I just went with it to see if anybody would notice.
I like how you edited the video so you didn’t have to pay any royalties or didn’t have Don Henley’s legal team after you. 😂😂😂
@2:05 - In APA, I wouldn't be allowed to use a jump cue. So, if I wanted stripes, I would have probably tried the 6-13 combo in the side. This is allowed because the table is still open. I am fairly decent in doing combination shots, but it would depend on your comfort level.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
That's not an easy combo, but neither is the jump. Like you said, it is all about comfort level.
DrDave: I LOVE your pool videos. I have several bookmarked and watch them repeatedly. The reason is you not only tell us what to do, but why, which I find interesting and helpful. BUT in this video from rack 6 onwards, you compressed the time too much. I can't digest what you did and why before the the next shot happens. The speed in the other two 8 ball runout videos was better. Keep up the great pool videos!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
FYI, if you want to slow down racks 6-15, you can have KZread play that part of the video slower. Just select "playback speed" under settings with the gear icon.
@Halfgig57
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards OH I didn't know you could do that. Thanks DrDave!
Great run outs. You make the game look easier with your ball selection and skill. Makes me laugh that people say the things that they do. Everyone sees the table different. If it works, it works. If it were easy everyone would be a pro.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. You're right. The pros make it look easy, but we're not all pros.
1:06 On the first rack I would've tried to hit that 4, then hit the 1-3 combo. Then 1, 7, 6, 5, 2. But 🤷♂️. It might not have worked out as well.
@12:40 foul..... 🤣 I love watching these break and runs
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, unless playing under "CB Fouls Only" rules.
Good evening Sir. Well played! Rack 14 i had to watch a couple of times and was pleasantly surprised with the out! 👏 I will be messaging you soon with a couple of ideas! P.s i still need to order the new t shirt designs! Literally havent been home enough 😞
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I thought more people would notice the jump bank in rack 14. I could say I was doing that just to show off, but I would be lying. It was a mistake, but I rolled with it. :)
@ericpoolguysimpson2954
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards oh i figured haha And the opening shot i was trying to determine if a combo was played but all in all well done sir!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
@@ericpoolguysimpson2954 Yep. That combo was an important start of the rack. Thanks.
Hi Dr Dave, I'm trying to improve my 8-ball break from the side, how hard are you hitting the cue ball on the break? Your videos are awesome and very helpful, thank you in advance! :)
@DrDaveBilliards
26 күн бұрын
See the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/8-ball/ I hit my 2nd-ball break at about 80-90% of max. I don’t have a number for the speed, but I would guess 13-14mph.
If your ever around Lakeland Florida come by tbows and try to run out on those barboxes, thry roll straight just slow and can't get a good rack because people continue to bang the head ball and there are divots in the slate. But runouts are frequent on quicker tables with pristine equipmen
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Humidity also makes table play tougher.
@tomtucket6960
2 жыл бұрын
I have a thing I was taught by an old straight pool player and it's mostly to do with how your subconscious and conscious play vital roles...in short its what you believe that makes things tough or easy, obviously a shot on the rail on a snooker table is tougher than one cut from the spot but all in all you still have to hit the ball on the line it needs to be on to pocket it. Humidity is a infrequent exponent in your regular pool knowledge, most places are air-conditioned so the "tough" part is the not understanding what is happing and if you practice in Humidity it becomes just another speed table and the main factor is the cue grips the felt faster so small amounts of masse happen and you make, shape or both is awry. After the knowledge is implanted through practice, and this is the gem, it's visualization. I was actually thinking about contacting you with the method I was taught and I think it's right up your alley Dr. And my apologies if I sounded like I was putting your vids down, I love the scientific approach and the time you put in to HELP, rare in this game. But if you would like to know more on this send me a msg and I'll gladly share my knowledge with you. My teacher was like my father I never had and he made me promise not to share with anyone not worthy of the time tenacity amd dedication it takes to be a true student of the game but you obviously have all those and more
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Feel free to send me a description of the "method" you were taught: billiards.colostate.edu/contact/
You're so good
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks; although, like most people, I want to be better.
@caleboxley9743
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards believe me, me too 😔 I've been struggling, I picked up the basics super fast but have an exponential amount to learn, im hoping with enough practice I'll get there though
Yeah I most play on a 9 foot table but damn when I switched to Barbox once it was crazy I had a difficult time to play on it. Even my friend said Barbox isn't easy to play on
@DrDaveBilliards
11 ай бұрын
Ball pocketing is easier on a bar box, but there is more clustering and CB positioning difficulty. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/strategy/bar-box/
Dr Dave is that a normal cuebsll or an oversized one? Could you do a video about playing on barboxes with oversized cueballs?
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
It is a normal-weight CB. FYI, I cover oversize CB effects in detail here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/ball/weight/ Check it out.
“Your wish is my command, since I aim to swerve” Good one Dr Dave 😂
Bro says that if he was making continuous breaks he would be on a world tour. Proceeds to make continuous breaks
@DrDaveBilliards
9 күн бұрын
The racks were not consecutive. I only showed the good racks from my session.
@corza1239
9 күн бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards just having a laugh mate
Do you find it difficult switching from a 9 foot table to a bar box and vice versa? Or do you adapt right away to whatever size pool table you shoot on?
@DrDaveBilliards
3 ай бұрын
Good players easily adapt to any table size and any table conditions. Although, there are differences in play based on table size and type: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/strategy/bar-box/
One thing I'd like to mention is that if you're playing 8 ball and using the second ball break and aren't make the fat corner ball. You can either move the cue ball slightly in from the rail or hit a little more outside on the second ball. You'll usually start making the fare corner ball. On a 9 foot table breaking from 2 ball off the rail really seems to make the second ball break work better. It changes the angle of how the corner ball comes off the rack makes it shorten up which sends it into the pocket
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
That is not my experience at all. With a tight rack on a 9’ table, the corner ball doesn’t even have a chance to go with a 2nd-ball break.
@jasonsanders9054
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards what I'm saying is break a ball and a half to two balls off the rail on a 9 foot table . Changing the angle you're hitting the second ball will change and throw the far corner ball long which on a big table gives you a chance at making it. But honestly a head ball break does do better on a big table. But there are adjustments you can make to a second ball break to make it work. The real plus is when you are bridging from the table and not the rail you can get better action and hit the rack a lot harder
I really like the triple combo & the carom shots Dave. You should be a natural for my points game. Have you tried it yet? Be well, Al-Fu
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I have a very long “list” right now.
Rack 5- All shots were what i would have done. 10:43 is where I had a trouble of deciding where the the 14 would go. I planned to put the 14 in the opposite corner of 11. But I thought of taking the 13 in upper corner where the 9 was put. Slow roll cue to the rail & run the 8 ball in same pocket as 9.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I think there are several good patterns for the 13-14-8. I don't think mine wasn't necessarily the best (especially for all people).
@ 6:12 initially I would have gone with the 7 in the side. From the angle of the camera I couldn't see if you would've cleared the 2 ball.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
The 7 did go in the side, but I didn't want to deal with the 1-ball later (although, the 3 is decent ball to get on the 1 later, with the right angle).
You're able to see the patterns so far in advance of just three balls. What do you recommend for us to practice or watch to be able to visualize as far ahead as you?
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Check out the info and videos here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-ball-control/ especially the 3-part "Smart Runout Pool" series. I think those videos are exactly what you are looking for.
Hey Dave, you’ve got a deep deep bag of skills to use when you’re running a rack and my main opportunity is definitely with caroms. Do you have any drills that I could use to get better at these types of shots??
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. For help with caroms and kisses (including useful drills), see the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/30-90-rules/carom/ Enjoy!
At the 10:38 mark, was there not enough angle to slide over and shoot the 13 ball in the same pocket? Or was it just a preference thing? I like the angle for the 14 to the opposite corner with some top to get a little closer to the 8 without moving anything.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Good point. I think that was possible. I honestly didn't consider it. The only danger shooting the 14 in the other corner is if you get too low on the 14, but I think either approach is fine. FYI, I could have easily gotten closer to the 8 with more draw off the 3.
@dereksegree7097
2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t consider getting too low on the 14, that would be pushing the 3 towards the side of the table with the 8 instead of away from it like the draw shot does. Thanks for the input and all of the content.
didn't get the pun of serve/swerve until 2 mins in hahaha ; just to make sure, are you putting on any spin on the 2nd ball break? perhaps right spin?
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I use a center-ball hit on the breaks, as shown by the spin diagrams in the video. For more info, see my latest "2nd ball break" video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIZlpZaPiZfbe8o.html Enjoy!
Dr. Dave, I was wondering if there was a channel out there similar to yours for bowling. I’ve just gotten into it after pool and I would like great content with in depth analysis and skills to work on. I don’t see any that provide what you do for pool. Do you know of any out there that I could follow? Thank you!!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I don't know of any. I've bowled my whole life, but I haven't really done my "homework" like I have with pool. You probably already saw my bowling podcast video already, but if you are others are interested, here's my shortened and illustrated version: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lI2Iuc6HhpywZdI.html
How long is your cue extension? And is it the same brand as your cue? I bought an aftermarket one for my mcdermott and it causes the cue to wobble so I don't use it anymore.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I is a 4" "Balance Rite." It also added a wobble to my cue, but it doesn't bother me. The tip still hits the CB where I am aiming.
@tatoo3796
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards thanks for the response. I enjoy learning from your videos.
this was a great vid for the average Joe bar pool enthusiast... great run on rack 1... I would have probably taken 10 carom off the 3 into the corner leaving cue ball upper left corner to take a either the 12 or the 14 into the upper right. if I miss the 10 carom the traffic would have likely left an unlikely run for my opponent... curious what you might think of that play.... thanks Doc!
@orthoagnostic3364
2 жыл бұрын
(also the 13 would be available for a second shot)
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Good idea. It is not an easy shot, so it is a little risky, but it would make the out a lot easier than what I faced.
Should your shoulder be hurting when you aim? I try to be conscious about keeping a relaxed shoulder and elbow so I don’t shoot the cue upwards but i still feel some tension in my shoulder. Is this normal?
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
If you are not used to keeping your shoulder up and still, it might not feel relaxed at first, but it should feel natural with more practice.
What do you use as markers on the felt? Thanks 😊
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
See: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/training/teaching/
Solids for Rack 3 7, 2, 3, 6, 5 1, 8 in the side. Hey Doc, I know me, Anytime shooting a 3 ball combo has just too many risks factors. I think also with your cb control you would have cleared either solids or strips. Just my 2 cents. As always great video and thank you for teaching us all.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Agreed. Solids are also run-able here, but access to that 1 is a little tight. I personally wouldn't want to save that for late in the game. Short side shape on the 1 off the 3 would probably be the safest approach.
@vcoolpool
2 жыл бұрын
Again you are correct. 3 to 1 would've been better. And like you always said, deal with problems early in the rack. I'll set it up to see for sure. Thanks again!
Hi Dr Dave, are bar boxes 7 foot by 3.5 foot? I'm currently looking to buy a pool table in Aus, but the only affordable ones are the British style 7 foot tables.
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
The most common size is 7'. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/table/sizes/
I remember several years back, 30 or 40 I started playing that Yahoo pool which was a lot of fun. I did pretty good at it but I soon realized these guys had these amers. Yep The key was going four or five rails and making a ball I said that's enough for me there's no chance of winning and I was not about to download an amer. Keep 😅
Video is also a built in game of name that tune.
10:30 why not roll through the 15? sets up for 13 side with a little draw. straight through the 14 to the bottom left gives you a much more open angle, but more green for the shot.
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good plan to me.
A critique - I know this is a weird one but here goes, you're a better player than me. I'm a solid player, a AA where I live (population of around 50k) and there is no doubt in my mind you're better than me. By the time I drop the 8 ball on an ERO I've usually moved on from plan A and have ended up on plan C... or D, lol. Because of your shot making ability and cue ball control some of the patterns you play are beyond my abilities and I would assume a good percentage of your viewers. That being said I have still enjoyed this series of videos because it shows me some alternative ways of looking at racks and knowledge is power in this game. The best example of this I can point out in this video is at 4:53. I completely understand why you made that shot but I honestly wouldn't have tried it. It crossed my mind to draw into that cluster off the 5 ball while looking at the rack during the pause in the video but I quickly considered it a low percentage shot and looked for a different route. I wouldn't have been confident enough in my cue ball control to hit the 11 ball as precisely as you did to break out the 6 ball that perfectly. Instead I would have worked to the bottom side of the 6 ball for position in the upper corner. My thought process would have been to try getting position for the 6 ball off the 4 ball or 3 ball. After the shot you made on the 5 ball that rack was easy I just wouldn't have been confident enough to draw into the 11 ball like you did.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think your idea to play for position under the 6 is a better idea than moving the 11 like I did. The bump wasn't necessary, and it could have caused trouble.
Your ability to read a rack is really really good. Can a person learn this skill? Or is a mix of intuition and knowledge? Do we gain intuition through experience?
@DrDaveBilliards
2 ай бұрын
A little knowledge is very helpful. See: 8-BALL BREAK "CHEAT CODES" and How to Read a Rack kzread.info/dash/bejne/nZ91ztCtgdWsn5s.html Amazing 8-BALL "CHEAT CODE" ... 2nd-Ball-Break with a Side Gap to Pocket the 8 kzread.info/dash/bejne/h4OFxbBraZzbp6g.html For more help and info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/8-ball/
@stuartcarter944
2 ай бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards thanks for the thoughtful response and the links. You rock, man!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 ай бұрын
@@stuartcarter944 You’re welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
Have you tried the same think on a UK bar box ? The pockets are a lot tighter and the cue ball is smaller than the object balls. Makes for a different break and trickier runouts.
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
I look forward to trying. I guess that’s just another reason to visit the UK.
@domhall952
Жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards the configuration I mention is the one used by the Ultimate Pool series. Broadcast in the UK by Sky and Viaplay. Would be great to see you take on some of the champions ☺️
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't give a champion much of a match. I am a professional instructor, not a professional player.
@12:54 how did get the 8 in? The video was a little too fast it looked like an amazing shot but couldn't see how it was exicuted.
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I cut it really thin with fast speed and rattled it in.
Rack 3 was the only one I called accurately until the 3 way
12:41 what a huge foul😂
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
... not under "CB Fouls Only" rules. So there. :)
What type of break is best for bar box? And for 9ft? What does Dr.Dave like?
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
All of these questions about the 8-ball break (and more) are answered in the videos and info here (especially my recent videos): billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/8-ball/ Check them out.
Any thoughts on the "take what you make" agreement?
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'm not a fan, because I prefer that when people play pool, they should follow the WPA "official rules of pool:" billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
It would help if at the "what would you do here" point you showed an overhead view of the table. From the foot, it is hard to tell whether some balls "go".
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Even better, I should show close-up shooter POV views of all important ball positions and lines. Unfortunately, this sort of thing is not as easy as it sounds when I am at a bar with no camera man and with only one camera high up on a tripod on tables. I also didn't know which run-outs I was going to use, from the many breaks I was hitting.
Hi Dr Dave .what shaft are you using ?
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
12.4 Predator Revo