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@samcardinale9321

6 жыл бұрын

Yes we need to quit being a throw away seciety! thanks for your youtube post

I have a stainless fork with a wooden handle. I tried a chisel and a drill, both of which broke. So I resorted to pouring some bbq lighting fluid in it and now have a delightful garden candle for an hour or so!

I love the bit about straightening the tines. That will be very handy. Thank-you.

@iCultivate1

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your feedback 😄. I am glad you found the information useful.

I got the stump of the wooden handle out by putting it in a very lively chiminea fire. And fire would work, then let it cool down. You chaps should know that!

@iCultivate1

6 ай бұрын

A good suggestion! Yes, fire is a method I have used, but there have been times I have wanted it done faster. A good method though :)

To put a taper on your handle: I tried clamping the handle in my vice and using an electric planer but this was too aggresive (maybe had the blade showing too much), also i had to keep loosening the vice to spin the handle around, this was the most tedious part of the process. I tried using the hand plane but had the same problem having to constantly turn the handle in the vice. I then took my hand plane and clamped it upside down (after a quick sharpen of the blade) in the vice. I then grabbed the handle and just run it backwards and forwards over the blade. After each cut i slightly rotated the handle in my hands. This method it only took me 10 minutes max to taper the handle. To finish off i used sandpaper to smooth out the cuts. I had five garden tools to fix which is why i had to figure out a quicker way to get the job done. This was by far the easiest method. If you have any better ideas let me know as i had looked at buying a spoke planer but at a cost of £20 for this one off job, i couldnt really justify it and needed to find another solution. So if you aint got a spoke planer but you do have a hand planer and a vice you are good to go.

@iCultivate1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for contributing this! A great recommendation.

Very helpful video :D I'm one of those rare few of my generation that believes in fixing things rather than replacing them, I've got several shovel heads and other tools that need re-handling and just salvaged some garden hand tools from my neighbor's scrap pile earlier (gonna fix em up as a gift)

To remove the broken shaft from the socket I drilled a pilot hole the inserted a hexagon headed wood screw (approx. 3/8 dia. X 4 long) in the hole. Tightened as far as it would go leaving the hex. head to grip in a vice. Tap the top of the tines with a mallet. The stump came easily.

Glad I found this helpful video. I'm terrible with tools. I bought several about 15 years ago and by now all the metal parts have come off. The metal parts are perfectly good and still useable so I hate to throw them away and am glad to know they can be fixed. I'll sand all the wooden handles and put some linseedoil on them, and take better care of them so I don't have to do this again..

@iCultivate1

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear this was useful 😄. I appreciate you taking the time to tell me 😄

While you are at it, put some linseed oil on that old handle after you have run some sandpaper over it.

@iCultivate1

4 жыл бұрын

Good suggestion. Thanks for contributing to the conversation 😀

My tip is, if you have to drill out a fork handle & you usually do, ram the fork tines into the ground, it holds it in position perfectly, as you drill it out.

@iCultivate1

2 жыл бұрын

A good suggestion - thank you for taking the time to share it.

Nice video thanks I have a collection of broken spades, rakes, forks etc I collected over the years thinking one day I will fix that. I think that day might be tomorrow!

@iCultivate1

5 жыл бұрын

It’s a great weekend activity, and very therapeutic on a rainy day 😄

Great tips my friend! Chuck

@iCultivate1

7 жыл бұрын

+Fensterfarm Greenhouse thanks for the feedback, Chuck 😀

You will rip your hands on the heads of those bolts. use a rivet, a mild steel nail makes a passable rivet. As for puting an implement into a fire to burn old handle out as sugested below. Ive seen a good number of tools wasted by doing this as it can (not always) alter the structure of the metal. But iCultivate is right repair your tools, not least because it is hard to buy tools of the same quality as the old ones

As another suggestion, I've used a flat wood bit set to get the old wooden handle out.

@iCultivate1

4 жыл бұрын

Good suggestion - thanks for contributing to the conversation 😄

@c-lospompa7376

3 жыл бұрын

@@iCultivate1 just burn it

I like to fix stuff too I just replaced the handle on a 15 lb sledge for my son now I had to order a garden fork handle for his garden fork and I'll replace that

@iCultivate1

2 жыл бұрын

It is always good to fix things rather than just throw them away! I am glad you also do this 😊

After removing any rivets, nails, or screws securing the tool head to the handle, screw in a thick eye bolt (you may need to drill a pilot hole) so you have a place to secure a grip (with hand, rope, or chain). Then if you heat the metal collar with a blow torch, the metal will expand and you should be able to pull the two pieces (the tool head and the handle) apart.

@iCultivate1

3 жыл бұрын

Great tip. Thanks for sharing 😄

By far the best way to remove the old wood, hammer in a length of threaded bar to the old wood and apply heat to the socket/ collar until the wood is well "SSSSSMOKIN" . I use 12 inches of 8mm bar and heat the collar of the spade head in the flame of a gas BBQ as don't possess a blow torch. Clamp some mole grips to the bar and with your boot on the spade simply tap out with hammer. Tried drilling first and what a palaver.

@iCultivate1

2 жыл бұрын

Great tip!

I would like to have seen how you got the broken m it out of the shaft of the fork and whether it was riveted or screwed, if it riveted how did you repair ? Thanks

@iCultivate1

Жыл бұрын

This handle was riveted and I removed it with a chisel. But when it is almost impossible to remove, a better way is to actually burn it out - literally put it in a fire and allow the handle remnants to burn. Hope this helps :)

@careyostrer6193

Жыл бұрын

@@iCultivate1 thank you

@iCultivate1

Жыл бұрын

@@careyostrer6193 you are very welcome 😀

Good advice, lots of tools have many years left in them but are not repaired which is criminal. Old tools are often far better quality than cheap new ones.

@iCultivate1

7 жыл бұрын

+UK Tony I couldn't agree more. My way of thinking is to repair, recycle and repurpose if necessary. Never buy new if it can be at all avoided.

@totallyfrozen

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree. I try not to throw anything away that isn’t trash. I even keep old, rusty pieces of steel pipe around to use as sacrificial anodes for removing rust via electrolysis. Once you pull all the rust off an old tool, it can be brushed, cleaned, oiled, and set on a new handle. Then you basically have a new tool.

An old time way is to use steel rivets in the handle. Drill part way through on one side, go to the other bore through to meet. Cut rivet stock from a bolt, put through hole, small washer on each. Use a ball peen hammer to peen the end of the rivet bolt down tight. For a hay fork with a steel shaft that goes into the handle first soak the handle overnight in a bucket of water. Next day heat the end of the fork shaft up with a torch until it is orange. Gently tap into the wet handle socket letting the steam escape as you go. Taps in really easy, let dry and it will lock in for many years. Broken shovel handle - heat up the sleeve with a torch - tip shovel up and handle (or ashes) will fall out.

@iCultivate1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks sharing :)

thanks !

@iCultivate1

3 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome 🙏

My garden fork isn't like yours; mine has a tang that's rectangular in cross section and tapered when viewed from above. I don't even know what keeps it in the handle should I manage such a mortise because the ferule and tang don't have holes that indicate some thru bolt or rivet ever secured them. Any suggestions for such a late-arriving question?

@charlesroberts3910

2 жыл бұрын

Drill handle and fit it on thang with for and ferrule on tap too end of ha due on hard surface like concrete . In retina will make it seat itself . I dampened mine and our a generous amount of gorilla glue on handle . Whe dry enough drill side hole and add a pin or screw to secure it

Brilliant

@iCultivate1

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it has been useful 😄

I agree with repairing old tools. When repairing at least s digging fork make sure the transition between wood and metal is smooth or youu will cut your hand to pieces when digging. Be careful of bolt and screws for this reason, old rivets were the best as they were smoothed over. Modern tools are expensive and awful.

Köszönöm. Éppen ez a problémám, hogy esnek le a nyélről a régi kerti szerszámok.

@iCultivate1

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful :)

Would throwing the fork in the fire burn the wood?

@iCultivate1

6 ай бұрын

Yes, using fire is a method recommended by many :)

I like to fix stuff too I burned wood out with a torch already

Where did you purchase the handle? I'm not able to find any.

@iCultivate1

3 жыл бұрын

I have mostly purchased handles from my local hardware store. Hope this helps 🌱🌱🌱

Great video. I decided to burn the timber out of the handle in a fire. After 20 ' in coals the sooty ash fell out.

@garygorsuch

4 жыл бұрын

Handle from Home Hardware $24. New fork $60. Hardwood very difficult to drill out. Angle grind the rivet top off then drill out the rivet. Use Penetrol to oil timber then paint with two coats of enamel. Store tools in dry shed.

@iCultivate1

4 жыл бұрын

Great suggestions - thanks for contributing 😄

Does anyone know where I can find a cordless fork or even a plug in one will do. These old school forks are bad for your back. 😉

@iCultivate1

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha ....... I am on the lookout for a cordless crowbar, so please let me know if you find one ;)

One surefire way to remove a handle is to put the entire thing in a fire... then all ya need to do is grind off the pin - or whatever is originally used by the factory to secure it to the handle.

@mike-cl7pb

2 жыл бұрын

It ruins the temper of the steel

Where did you buy your handle?

@iCultivate1

4 жыл бұрын

You can buy handles from a general hardware store

the hard part is getting the old rivet out, id put the implementin a bonfire to get the wood out fo the implement, but cutting out or drillingout the rivet is the wirst part

@iCultivate1

6 жыл бұрын

You are very correct - thank you for the comment.

@buzoff4642

4 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking, drill the rivet out, before vacating the wood. But I've not tried it yet. I don't want to go buy a cold chisel for this task alone, to knock the rivet off, being a Yankee tightwad. It's a total wicked bummer to keep buying tools for a one-off purpose and have them in the cellar. I've asked a few organizations if they want to start a community tool shed, but no bites yet. One of the libraries check out basic hammer, screwdriver, etc., on their library card, but nothing scarcer.

Rather than using a chisel or drill to remove old handle, an easier way is to put a blow torch on the metal and burn the wood till it drops out. :-)

@iCultivate1

5 жыл бұрын

Great idea .... thanks for contributing 😄

@mdotguy

5 жыл бұрын

Would that weaken the metal?

@cnoconoir

5 жыл бұрын

@@mdotguy I suspect the would would drop out due to a combination of the metal expanding, and the wood losing moisture and shrinking a little. This would happen way before the metal lost any significant strength. They are usually quite a soft steel in any case, so there wouldn't be much work-hardening to lose.

@mike-cl7pb

2 жыл бұрын

@@cnoconoir No they are carbon steel which has been forged on good quality tools. A little heat can be used to char/loosen the timber but it's not a professional way to do it once the rivets are drilled and knocked out a few holes drilled in the wood make it come out quite easily. I can't believe the number of numpties suggesting heat/ burning evidently no knowledge of metallugy what so ever

Easiest way to remove the broken part inside is to burn it out build a fire around fork or spade and you will be left with charcoal just bang it out .

@iCultivate1

2 жыл бұрын

A good suggestion, thanks for contributing :)

I have a broken garden rake but the part that goes into the handle is just round.

@iCultivate1

3 жыл бұрын

You may have to use a chisel or file to shape the handle so that it fits.

@littleredhen3354

3 жыл бұрын

@@iCultivate1 Thank you! I ended up just banging the handle down onto the rake and it's wedged in there really well.

i only buy old garden tools if possible, the steel if much better than the new stuff

@iCultivate1

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Some of my best and favourites garden tools were bought at flea markets - good advice 😊

removing the old piece from the fork/spade is the difficult job & you didn't even show how you did it..!!!

@iCultivate1

4 жыл бұрын

A fair comment. I have a spare handle for the next time I need to replace one and will show how I do this next time. For the moment though, I hope the video encourages people to not throw away broken tools and consider repairing them.

@SeanMoylan

4 жыл бұрын

@@iCultivate1 great!

@bernocreely4601

4 жыл бұрын

You can also chuck it on the bonfire and burn it out!

@iohin

3 жыл бұрын

Can you just tell us how you do it?

@bradlane3662

11 ай бұрын

He did say that you would have to figure that part out because each case is different. It is difficult. I've actually soaked the old wood in oil and burned as much out as possible.

I like the video, but it might better be labeled How to remove the ‘shaft’ on a garden tool. To me a handle is the grip. Shaft is the wooden section between implements and ‘handles’.

@iCultivate1

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback and of course you are correct, but I believe most people refer to the shaft as the handle, particularly for those spades, shovels and forks that have a long “handle”. But I do definitely see your point 😊

One time I burned the handle out

@iCultivate1

2 жыл бұрын

Your method of burning the handle out is a good suggestion. Thank you.

The handles come with only a basic taper which will not fit your particular fork or spade.The hard part is shaping the end of the new handle so that it fits into the implement but this is not shown. The video makes it look too easy and only shows the final and easiest part of fitting a handle.

@TwoFingeredMamma

Жыл бұрын

I placed a hand planer upside down in a vice. Then I run the handle over the planer blade, slighly rotating the wood in my hand after each cut.

They don/t make things like they used to.

@iCultivate1

Жыл бұрын

Sadly, you are very correct!

Put your fork in fire to burn the wood first hope this will help

burn it out..

@iCultivate1

3 жыл бұрын

Always effective :)

Hmm. All self-evident, teaches not very much. The stump of the old handle is easy to burn out by placing it in a bonfire. Remove the old rivet with an angle grinder. Do "not" replace the rivet with a bolt, you will shred your hands when you use it.

@iCultivate1

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your reply. I am always surprised by what is “self-evident” to me, but not to others. I guess the purpose of these types of videos is to help those who do not already know these things - they are of no value to those who already do know. Good suggestion about the bolt. Thanks again for contributing 😄

@buzoff4642

4 жыл бұрын

"Don't replace the rivet with a bolt." Why do people keep saying that? I've yet to use (or see anyone else use) these tools holding them that far down. Can you give an explanation?

@ericsmith8996

2 жыл бұрын

If your shredding your hand on a bolt yer' breakin' yer' back to go that low on Handel shouldn't need to get that low down for yer' leverage I used a hazel but or cherry branch for my Handel , it's not exactly straight but it's hardy and tough and screws kept loosing up on me so used nut and bold method I also made the Handel 5' long instead of the shorty that way I can stand up straight instead of all hunched up screwing ' up my lower back I'm 6' tall so it helps me maybe not if your short. My problem is some "Root Fork" heads have a loose sleeve and when you remove the sleeve there is what looks like extra fork tine that fits into a hole on the base of handle the "tine?" almost to small to get a hole thru it to get a big enough screw in it to give it strength and also a challenge is the sleeve has a bend like a shovel there fore Handel has to also and hole has to be drilled at end of Handel just exactly depth and width on a curved end of Handel !? The one he repairs is something I can and have done , I'm a landscaper and use often but these type of "Root Fork" head and sleeve is a job for an experienced craftsmen with a goddamn wood shop and all tools of the trade at his disposal we the people are working hard to repair , reuse , recycle but are the companies working even harder to get us to throw them away ??? Sometimes it sure seems they aren't workin' with us to make it easy to replace things

No mention of how to remove the old handle stub, or shape the new handle. Utterly useless video. I burn the old stub out in an open fire and use an electric plane and engineers blue to reshape the new handle

Not a helpful video. You HAD a broken fork with wood still inside it and you failed to demonstrate how to extract it. One cannot replace the handle without removing the existing wood! 😒

@iCultivate1

Жыл бұрын

I am sorry you didn’t find this information useful, but as mentioned in the video, there is no one method to remove the old broken handle, it will depend on the situation. The video is mostly about fixing the new one in place once the old handle is removed. One method that many people mention is actually burning the old handle out. Perhaps you can try this.