If it wasn't for your video, I wouldn't have known how to tap on the check valve in order to get it to work. That method resolved my issue.... Thanks!

Kind friend, you may have just saved a coleman lantern. I’ve been searching the interwaves for 2 days trying to discover why my newly replaced pump assembly refuses to pump. I can’t wait for sunrise! 👍 Update: Carb cleaner only and we have a working lantern! ❤️🖐

@daleburrell6273

2 жыл бұрын

...I like happy endings-!!

Best video I've seen on this topic. Very comprehensive. I'm going to give this a try to clear the stuck valve on my old Coleman stove.

Great video. Really appreciate the step-by-step, the multiple ways to fix a stuck valve, and good video editing. :-)

I have now saved *5*, count them, *5* check valves after watching your video. Thank you so much for putting this out !!!!

Thank you sir. That 9/16th trick worked a charm!

Thanks very much that socket trick worked on my 242b valve stuck

This helped a lot. Thanks

Mighty thorough. Much obliged.

I've got two check valves 2hich leak. One from a stove one from an older lantern. Tried soaking them both in vinegar all day and it made no difference other than cleaning them up nice on the outside. I already installed a new check valve in the stove and I have one on order for the lantern. I may try the tapping to re-set the ball idea. Like you said, there's nothing to lose at this point.

I don't have the tool to deal with check valves, at least not yet so I am using repeated doses of Carb Cleaner to try fixing the check valve which is stuck in the closed position on a recently acquired 200. Air pump was expected to be dry, fixed that and I will have to do something about the fuel cap gasket. The lamp has been well used over the decades and I was not planning on a restoration, but with the time it might take to fix the check valve some partial disassembly for a citric acid soak or perhaps even an electrolysis tank for rust removal might now be in order. It won't be a museum quality restoration but I will aim for a significant rejuvenation of a venerable old lamp. Great series, I have watched a lot of the fixes and tips and tricks plus a lot of history from this channel.

@king.coleman

Жыл бұрын

If the check valve is stuck in the closed position, you might try poking it with a stiff wire or bamboo skewer to free it up.

@DB-cc5vg

Жыл бұрын

@@king.coleman Tried that but it was stuck in the open position, already at the limit of it's movement. I did several days of carb cleaner and on day 2 it started to burp some bubbles. This was encouraging so I continuted this treatment along with installing the pump plunger and trying to force carb cleaner in to the air tube so it could work from both side. I finally elected to remove the main valve and filled the fount with hot vinegar to the brim. It would slowly work it's way through the check valve. When the plunger tube was full I topped it up with more warm vinegar. After sitting overnight, several rinses with 91% alcohol to remove traces of vinegar, I can actually hear the check valve ball moving when I gently shake the tank. Will reassemble tomorrow and give it a test burn if the fount holds its pressure. No obvious way to remove the fuel pick up tube, so it got a good hot vinegar soak, followed by alcohol bath.

@DB-cc5vg

Жыл бұрын

@@king.coleman Looks like my efforts were successful. Just reassembled everything and the tank holds pressure now. I have found some pump repair kits (half way across the city), so I will pick a few up and replace the pump leather a bit later. A test light later with fire extinguisher handy and with luck all goes well. Have you ever tried cold bluing bare steel lantern parts. I'm mulling the idea of doing the side supports and bottom plate to help prevent more rust. Not sure it will stand up to the heat.

7:49 Now that is a genius little tool! I was wondering how I was going to get that out...

Thank you! 🙏

@king.coleman

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Yeah Autumn type weather can sure bring the rain.

Hello Sir Thank You for all your Amazing Videos I had question is the Ball Citric Acid Powder for canning the same as other brand citric acid powders or is one better than the other ?????

@king.coleman

3 жыл бұрын

Citric acid powder is citric acid powder. They should all be the same regardless of brand.

Get a new one? Lucky you! I have tried to get a new one for my Feather 442 stove, only to be told by Coleman UK that check valves are not available as a spare part!

@king.coleman

4 ай бұрын

A 442 should use the standard check valve that Coleman has used in almost everything since the 1940s. There may be a different part number for the 442 if the new check valve includes an air stem, which is shorter than usual on that model. I expect, however, that your air stem is fine and that all you need is the check valve. If Coleman doesn't sell them in your country, check with Old Coleman Parts.

@donpark759

4 ай бұрын

Thank you. @@king.coleman

King Coleman: I just bought the tool - works great, EXCEPT on one particular check valve from a 1957 200a. I swear the slot on its valve is too small for the tool. Have you ever come across this? I don’t want to file down the tool to make it fit, rendering it undersized from now on. And of course, that’s the lantern whose valve is faulty and the reason I bought the tool!

@king.coleman

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think the check valve itself is any different than others. Coleman used a single check valve on everything for decades, so it's not like someone accidentally installed the wrong part at the factory. The two most likely possibilities are (1) someone tried to remove it with a screwdriver and chewed it up or (2) the slot is filled with grease and debris. I've run into both and in either case, when you insert the removal tool, you should still feel when it lines up with the slot. Line it up, then tighten the nut. That should pull the tool into the slot on the check valve, whether that means squishing debris out of the way or pushing through soft, mangled brass. Even in the latter case, there's usually still enough metal for the tool to get a grip on. Good luck.

Pretty cool video. A real problem and very common I have found is rust inside the fount, from severe to a light dusting of rust with no pitting. Have you addressed any founts with rust and what amount of rust will effect the operation of a lantern. I have a 220F that has never been used. It has a very light rusting inside of the fount. You have given me some great insight on how to trouble shoot my lantern. I have some concern, I have found a couple of things already. The cup on the pump is definitely going to need oiling and I had to back off the packing nut a 1/4 turn to get the fuel valve to open. I’m really leaning towards a complete disassembly before I ever use it. I’m concerned of fouling the air tube and check valve. I’ve really have 3 choices. Test the lantern, and if it passes use as it is. Disassemble the lantern check all parts and address the rust in the fount. Spend $55 dollars send it to Coleman and get it refurbished. First option is the laziness in me. The second option is what I probably should do. The third option is the easiest but not sure if Coleman would clean the inside of the fount. Any insight would be highly appreciated.

@king.coleman

3 жыл бұрын

A mild acid solution or commercial rust-remover (like Evaporust) is usually sufficient. If it's bad, I first dump some BBs in the fount and give a good shake for ten or fifteen minutes before rinsing and soaking in rust remover. If the fount is compromised, the BB shake will often reveal it. I always follow that up with a pressure test: fifty or sixty pumps and then a dunk in water to look for bubbles. If I'm really concerned, I'll pump it until it's too difficult to pump any more and let it sit overnight, then check for leaks.

@olehemlock

3 жыл бұрын

@@king.coleman Thanks for the quick reply! The fount is in excellent condition. The fount is flawless on the exterior. Just has slight rust inside the fount. BBs and Evaporust could be an easy solution. Thanks again!

@billgriffin1505

3 жыл бұрын

@@king.coleman Maybe a dumb question but are BBs larger than the air tube opening in the fount? No chance of a BB getting stuck in there? Thanks for the great video!

@king.coleman

3 жыл бұрын

@@billgriffin1505 Yes, they are larger.

First of all...thanks for all of your informative videos. I have a few coleman lanterns and a couple of coleman stoves. When I remove the check valves for maintenance and cleaning, I've noticed that there sometimes is an oring around the check valve. Do you know what size those orings are? I'd like to replace them before they fail. Thanks in advance.

@king.coleman

2 жыл бұрын

I can't tell you with any certainty what size those o-rings are as I don't work on appliances new enough to have them. I see Basnett's refers to them as No. 57, for what that might be worth. Old Coleman Parts sells them as well: www.oldcolemanparts.com/Check-Valve-O-Ring-S36.html

@rickcadena6694

2 жыл бұрын

@@king.coleman , Thanks for the lead. I appreciate it.

I been studying up on this. Your videos are by far the Best! Will WD-40 work for cleaning check valve?

@king.coleman

Жыл бұрын

As far as I'm aware, WD-40 is not a cleaner. It displaces water and lubricates things.

@thegulagarchipelago5921

Жыл бұрын

Jip, Spot On. But I got and old lantern that's in Great condition but has some rust in the pump channel. So now I'm removing rust with WD-40 and after that will clean oil residue with petrol. Then let it dry out and try and fire it up. That ok?

@king.coleman

Жыл бұрын

@@thegulagarchipelago5921 WD-40 isn't a rust remover. I assume it's the walls of the pump tube that are rusty. If that's the case, I'd pour in some white vinegar and let it sit for a couple of hours. That will break down the rust. Rinse it out, then use a bore brush or some fine sandpaper wrapped around a dowel to smooth it out if necessary.

@thegulagarchipelago5921

Жыл бұрын

@@king.coleman Thanks much 👍 We all learn something sometime.😉

Check valve is clear and working as it should, new leather seal but still leaking. Is it a good idea to spray carb cleaner with check valve removed into the tube where the valve goes?

@king.coleman

2 жыл бұрын

It won't hurt anything, but it won't do anything to fix your problem. You say that the check valve is working, so you'll probably want to do a dunk test to determine where the leak is. Pump it up, dunk it in some water, and look for bubbles. The usual culprit is the fuel cap gasket, but the valve can also leak if the stem isn't seating properly. If you recently removed the valve from the fount, it's possible it may be leaking at the bung. You could have a compromised fount. Or the check valve may not be working after all. The bubbles will tell you where the problem is. If you don't want to go straight to the dunk test, try swapping the fuel cap with a known-good cap and see if it holds pressure.

@mikegalate5182

2 жыл бұрын

Fuel cap gasket was replaced. The fount will not hold pressure at all. What goes in, comes out immediately. I swapped the check valve, the pump and all to another lantern and no problems there. So It leads be to believe its in the fount itself. What say you?

@king.coleman

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikegalate5182 Sounds like a compromised fount. Time for a dunk test. The bubbles won't lie.

I just got a 228D in pretty good condition. Someone at some point destroyed the wings to the check valve. What drastic measures should I try to remove it? It isn’t functional (check valve).

@king.coleman

16 күн бұрын

@@Bryan1Hersey An easy out is pretty much your only option at that point.

Hi. Is there any particular reason you not using ultrasonic parts cleaner for cleaning parts?

@king.coleman

3 жыл бұрын

I've used one on occasion, but haven't found that they do a better job than boiling in mild acid solution. Most people don't have access to one and I'm trying to show people how they can engage in this hobby with what they're likely to have or have easy access to and without spending a lot of money.

@imis52

3 жыл бұрын

@@king.coleman I happens to have ultrasonic parts cleaner and I used it to clean up Petromax/Britelyt upper generator tube yesterday. I used about 3% vinegar solution @50C for about 30 min. It appeared to get a lot of carbon out from that bend tube that style of generator has. At least now air now flows through it very well. Your videos are good and they inspired me to clean up existing generator vs replacing with new one! Thank you

Could you put in a link to the removing Tool from oldcolemanparts? Kind regards..

@king.coleman

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like Mike is out of stock, so no link available at present.

My check valve is leaking air but if i close the pump handle then the air keeps inside. Is it safe if a use it like that? I am not from usa and tried to remove the check valve with all king of tools except a proper tool but is so expensive for me since i am not from US. Thank you!

@king.coleman

Ай бұрын

They don't always seal perfectly. If it seals completely with the air stem screwed down it'll be fine.

@Dionisio181

Ай бұрын

@@king.coleman Thank you! You saved my life 🤜🏻🤛🏻

12:35...I'd use a BRASS drift if I tried that-!