Fill up a container with engine oil put the mechanical part of the hub in it let it soak for awhile. I learned that trick from Powerstroke Help Bill many years ago. It works really well in our shop we always have lots of 15w40.

@-R_H

Жыл бұрын

I soaked mine in some 0w20 I had and it worked really well. Being a PA/NY truck from 2015 that prob never had these turned, mine were almost impossible to turn even with channel locks.

@WallyHunter1875

6 ай бұрын

I tear mine down once a year, clean, paint if needed and grease. It’s a part they say is maintenance free but that’s not true.

Good instructional video for replacing the hub assembly. I have have worked on dozens of those hubs. Fairly easy to completely disassemble the old hub and get it to work as good as a new one with a little grease. And a lot cheaper. Keep the videos comming . 👍

I personally would have cleaned the rust and done some preventative maintenance on the hubs but good video

My 2006 6.0 F350, required removal of original hub lock-outs, due to replacement of steering linkage, ball joints, and drive axle ujoints, to include replacement of driver unit hub assembly. Did not experience any issues of seizing, however, did always clean areas of rust formation and added additional grease when reinstalling. Good tip on maintenance of routine turning of hub selector. Thanks ARod

Never replaced just freed up with a little penetrating oil, it so far has worked great. Sometimes that’s all it takes, no need for replacement, the exterior corrosion on the aluminum locks your hub for you. A dozen or so work trucks over the years mostly off-roading on residential properties (landscaping) and snow plowing in the NorthEast in very corrosive conditions. So if you are not locking your hubs regularly I guess you have to ask yourself do I really need a 4X4? A very thin narrow bead of all weather outdoor low temperature silicone helps to seal and weatherproof the hub. You give good advice. Especially liked your “no hammer” comment. Will be checking out more of your channel. First Ford was a used 1975 I bought in 1980 for $1000.00 don’t remember if they were f-150’s back then. Three speed on the column. Great truck. Really liked the column shifter. More 150’s, a 250, and a few 350’s some dually dumps and a couple of pickups. My latest is a 2010 diesel. Very good truck if you know what needs to be done to make it so. Just came in the door after replacing the hub assembly on a 2006 F350 4X4. Helps to have a long reach snap ring pliers. The damn ring was the biggest pain getting it off and back on. Last thing left is putting the lockout hub back on, and was searching for type of grease for lubrication and that’s how I found your channel. Thanks for the info.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome!

Hey I'll take those old hubs! Every Super Duty we have have this issue every year with plowing/salting but you are right, I need to get on a routine and take 10 seconds and work them every week or so. We did replace a set on one of the trucks with Warn hubs and never had a problem after that.

Good video. You scare the shit out of me every single time I see you start a bolt with the impact driver lol. I always try to start mine by hand cuz I’ve seen so many other peoples cross thread them.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Cmonnnnn

@loft306

3 ай бұрын

Haha, it's called trigger control.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 ай бұрын

@loft306 precisely

Save your self $400 per hub... The silver coating that ford uses to color them swells. And makes it bind. I removed and completely dissambled the hub. Sanded the coating down to bare metal.. There better then new now. And don't ever stick again.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Keep em turned and they wont lock up. ESP warranty pal...🤷‍♂️

Terrific job. I remember having to use pliers on my 85 Nissan king cab 4x4 years ago. I just lived with it.

Pitt watched your video and went outside to check the hubs on the 2019 F350 with 49549 miles on it I bought it last week. They do not turn even with pliers! I will take it back this week to get that fixed

Was it necessary to install a new unit? Looked to me like the hub needed a slight bit of cleanup and film of grease. By the way; use the rubber end of the plyers to turn the lock outs.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Why, i am replacing them. Again, warranty pays to replace.....

Thank You. I am guilty and just installed new OEM hubs with the help of your video. $300 lesson learned.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks pal

Aaaaannnnd now im headed out to check my hubs! Thanks for the reminder! Don't ever think about something like that.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Seeeee😉

@ryan_torres

3 жыл бұрын

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks! You need to make a video of things that people forget about in the future!!

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

For sureeee

Alot of people rely on the vacuum hubs and depend on the manuals if something happens to the vacuum side. But then you have this problem. I use my manuals anytime I can they're alot less prone to failure.

I replaced my factory locking hubs with warn premium. 93 f250 7.3 turbo. Wasnt quite as easy as the newer trucks, but still didnt take long. 6 little hex screws and a snap ring on the axle. I like having replaceable bearings instead of a hub assembly

Easypeezy , now you just made me go outside and check mine. And yup still works easy.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah baby

I swapped the auto locks of my 95 f350 7.3 with the warn manual locks, so much better and finally having a nice strong four wheel drive

Thanks for the video Arod! Haven’t turned mine in over a year 😬. Headin outside now 😂

I had no idea it was that easy. Mine are getting stiff, but I can still hand-turn them and I do once a month. I lock in 4x4 high, low, even lock the differential (gravel road about two miles long) once a month. Maybe when my hubs stop turning by hand I can handle this job!

Thank you for sharing this! I'll be sure to follow your advice about turning periodically. I also appreciate many of the comments below with tips and advice.

Doing oil, air, and fuel filters in the next few minutes. Adding hub turns to my list!

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Ding ding😉😉

Had to replace them on a 99 f250. Put on Warn. Have been turning hubs since then😊

Thank you! This was a great video! Very helpful my hubs were trashed so I’m going to replace mine today 😊

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Question. Before you put in the new hub lock outs is there a reason you did not hit that area with a wheel or something to knock off that little bit of rust? Maybe unnecessary?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Not needed.....gonna happen again any ways.

I’ve had a hub turn freely but it would not disengage the axle, it was stuck engaged. It also wouldn’t come off. I ended up breaking it to pieces to get it out. The replacement was not cheap either.

Nice thing about floor shift 4x4, you're constantly locking/unlocking your hubs. Extra grease does help a lot when you're in there doing bearings and u joints.

Replace both of mine last year on my 2011 KR F350. Had to replace both front Wheel Bearing and Hub Assemblies, so just went on and replaced these since this truck spent it's first 3 years in Canada! 😲😉 Thanks ARod!! Great Video as ALWAYS!!

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️

Mine will lock into 4x4 on their own. Even switched to non vacuum hubs and still did it.

Great video and reminder, now I've got to go check mine ('04 F250 SD 6.0l). One question, I noticed that there appeared to be some minor rust(?) buildup on the inside of the housing flange(?) once you removed the 4x4 hub, is that something that should be hit with a Scotchbrite pad to remove it and then clean the residue out before re-installing the hub?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Good question. Isnt going to affect operation and is gonna happen again any way

@huntingspud3086

3 жыл бұрын

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Good to know I don't need to worry about that if I find it in mine, thanks!

The one thing I didn't check prior to signing the paperwork for that truck. Like PTT says turn those hubs!!

Good info. Also lock the hubs and drive around for a few miles to keep the u- joints loose .

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq

2 жыл бұрын

My RV is in a huge gravel lot, so I’m in the habit of putting the transfer case in 4H while I drive around there, then back to 2WD before hitting the pavement again. Even though it’s gravel, I can tell by the understeer in turns that the Auto hub locks are working too. I manually turn them in too from time to time

@curtisrandell13

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jim. Do ya have to lock the hubs? Or will putting the vehicle in 4 high or low with the switch work as well??

Any suggestions since one of mine broke and fell out and the other snapped off today, inside is all rusty. Will just lubing new ones we'll be okay?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

Жыл бұрын

Yes

Great video! I always wondered what it looked like behind the hub lock. I’m headed out to check mine too.

Good stuff concise and succinct. Thank you

I Take them off and throw em in an ultrasonic cleaner with simple green for an hour or so and they usually move again turn em a lot toss em in another half hour hit em with some compressed air, spray with wd 40 light coat of grease on internals and re-install.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Warranty pays to replace....

After replacing the second set on my 2012 6.7 I just purchased the warn hubs and hopefully all the problems will be done. I do regularly service the hubs but the Ford OEM is just not working.

Yes! Thank you! This couldn’t have come out at a better time. 🙌👍

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Finally SOMEONE appreciating my time

Yay it's friday... Did have to replace the ones on my 16... wasn't a bad fix at all. Good video bud

Thanks for the look inside! Why did you not clean out the rust ?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Clean it, itll happen again any ways. Does not affect operation of hubs.

Put warn hubs on my 01 excursion. All steel no melting when a hub went bad.

I spray garage door lubricant through the vacuum input on the hub. Keeps things nice and free. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Works for me.

@curtisrandell13

Жыл бұрын

Legit? In the vacuum port on the knuckle??

@Dieselnm101

Жыл бұрын

@@curtisrandell13 Yes I use Blaster silicone spray through the vacuum port every oil change. Then turn the hub a couple cycles.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

Жыл бұрын

I dunno bout that

Priceless info!! Thank you for helping us out!

I normally put wd-40 in and move it, but I have to replace mine, mine were stuck so much I couldn't turn em this time around, I'm hearing a popping sound when foot is on brake adjusting my steering to back into a parking space popping coming from driver's side, but it doesn't pop when driving and turning through an intersection though which is weird. It's just when I'm trying to adjust my steering wheel foot on brake to back in to parking spot, I might have to spray mine with wd-40 and move em or replace em, I have a disintegrating tail light housing that needs to be replaced as well.

I have a Aisin locking hub from1969 that works amazing , nothing compare to the garbage they make nowadays 🤦

i had the white dust come out of the hubs while turning em too!

I used warn on my 1966 f250 they worked nice

Can anyone tell me if you can find a better locker hub for a 2019 f350 4x4 then the one ford has ive done broke 3 set and the last 2 time ive barely used them

great video..mine is not under warrenty so will removing rust fix my problem?

A whole lot easier than when I had to replace the hubs on my fathers 1984 Toyota landcruser

I have a 2024 F350 that has No manual lockout hub on passenger front axle. This is how it came from factory. There is only a hub lockout on driver side. Do you know if it is possible to put a hub lockout back on ? The vacuum line is plumb to that wheel and capped off.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

7 ай бұрын

Those buzzards

Wow thanks for that information. I love your video

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks pal

Ok. Just a bit confused. Did you replace the lockout because it was rusty and hard to turn? Maybe I missed something but once you pull that hub out, you should be able to clean it up and the lube it before you put it back together. Or I'm I just hoping they work like the older lockouts?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Warranty pays to replace....

@jimletzring1685

3 жыл бұрын

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod OH!! If the pickup is still under warranty. LOL Mine is a 15 with 100k+ miles.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

😉😉😉😉

@15Jeep

2 жыл бұрын

The NEW hub assemblies on the Dana 50 (1999-2004 SD's) and Dana 60 (2005+ SD's) front axle have throw away "Unit Bearings". The OLD hub assemblies on the Dana 60 front axle have serviceable "Timken Bearings".

thanks so much for this video

What about adding some grease or anti seize on the area that corrodes a little

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

2 жыл бұрын

The area that's corroded you're not gonna get to

What type or kind or manufacture of grease should be used? THANKS!!

Well up here in Canada that hub sells for over 400 bucks wholesale at Ford , I have tried taking them apart to remove the dial and sand out the corrosion that has built up between the 2 , but I end up with a hand full of smashed butt holes.

Trying to replace and I can't get the new hub to sit fully inside. You mention a peg. Could you elaborate a little bit on what the peg looks like? Is it a pin-like thing to make sure the orientation is correct? Thank you!

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

4 ай бұрын

Hold the housing and spin the end. You ll see

@josephvideos349

4 ай бұрын

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Thank you so much! I'm not sure I understand what "the end" means. DO you mean to hold the outer rim (with the screw holes) and hold the inner knob that rotates 90 degrees to change between locked and unlocked?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

4 ай бұрын

@josephskoler5206 Yes! Very good, you'll SEE 😎

Sadly I have neglected to service these as of yet.

Where did you get the green glow FORD huhs at ?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

2 жыл бұрын

Called editing software Fred🙉

Do you clean the inside of the hub where the rust was if so with what

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

8 ай бұрын

With some scotch brite pads

Good video I'm going to go spin mine back and forth. Thank You!

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

😉😉😉

Do they still recommend to drive with them locked periodically to keep everything oily? I changed the ones on my old 7.3 to mile markers when I first got it, no one ever locked them and the thrust washer ate through, no vacuum and wasn’t working on auto.

@austindenotter19

2 жыл бұрын

Common issue.

Thanks for sharing. Seams simple but the parts are expensive. Like #1.1K+

Good video ARod thanks for the nice tips

or put back on a set of Warn hubs. I use 4x4 to much to have vacuum lines fail when I need it the most.....

I’m trying to replace mine right now and for the life of me I can’t get it to skid in past the o ring. I can feel the first set of splines line up and the second will not start. Any tips or tricks. I’ve been trying for an hour.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

2 ай бұрын

Try twisting the hub lock out

@robertphipps3589

2 ай бұрын

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod i don’t know what was holding it up but I tried twisting it, jiggling it, spinning it, every combination imaginable and even spitting on it. Then all of a sudden after two hours it just slid in. All just to do ball joints. The old one fell apart when I disassembled it.

I'm working on a 2015 f550 I replaced the driver side because it broke apart and now I think the passenger side is f up too. When turning I feel a small hop. left or right it hops. What do you think it is?

Arod! Reviving an oldie. My 18 has 4 on the floor which I ordered, with manual lockers. My 22 will have elec shift, lame... can I swap in manual lockers, and do something to the vacuum to trick the system? I use 2wd in 4lo often for trailer reversing etc, and am pissed the hubs will now be in “auto”

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmmmmm good question

Can the hubs be locked and driven some w/o engaging the 4wd transfer case to exercise the front axle and associated parts w/o damage?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

2 жыл бұрын

I suppose so, yes

"The....we don't talk about those...." 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Like always the best

I've replaced them on my 1985 6.9, 1994 7.3, 1995 7.3, 2002 7.3, 2006 6.0, and 2017 6.7

I was driving in the snow today and got out and engaged my hubs. I got sort of a growling, clicking sound as I started driving. I'd imagine that is a tell that it isn't engaging the spline properly. Is that something that just happens? Or, is there a bigger problem going on? 2012 F250 120k miles

Would have helped to clean the rust off of that inner part of the end of the axle and put some grease there too?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Literally has NO bearing on operation. Trust me people........dont worry about it.

@crbourret

3 жыл бұрын

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks, I just wasn’t sure if that’s what was making them hard to turn

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

ABSOLUTELY NOT all internal to the hub...the hub does NOT turn in the bore. It is splined. The hubs turn internal to themselves to allow vacuum to work

I have a 2020 f250 with 8000 miles on it and the hubs don’t work in auto. Maybe they take time to engage?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

2 жыл бұрын

Naw they shldnt. Still under warranty take it.

Can you leave them engaged all the time? But still do the maintenance on them.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Do u think your supposed to be rolling around with the axle shafts spinning & not in 4x4..............???

Hey PTT. I recently did my vacuum seals on my 2015 6.7. I seem to remember the kit coming with a gasket for between the auto hub and the hub. Did they get rid of these gaskets in the newer years?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Yea maybe in that kit, so when disassemble the hub components and axle shaft you'll have that. Everything here was all like u saw, one unit.

@alexhatchard6750

3 жыл бұрын

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod ah gotcha. Love your videos man. Love my 6.7 best truck I've ever driven. Do all my own work as well. Learned a lot from you. Keep it up!

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alex. I really appreciate that. 😉💯🔥 DTR would be proud R.I.P. buddy

Even though covered under warranty wouldnt it be better to put on better hubs? The ford hubs are notorious for breaking, to much plastic.

What about taking steel wool to clean up the rust ?

I changed mine on my old 6.4. The reason I changed them was while slowing down I would hear a clack, clack, clack sound and be I come to a stop a loud thump like metal breaking. I thought it was the tranny but I started with the cheaper parts first. I pulled the lockers and the splines were all chewed up on both sides. I had to clean metal shavings out the hole. What would cause this? Oh I got rid of that truck and got a 6.7 in 2019.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

6.4 thats why

@15Jeep

2 жыл бұрын

ARod is correct. The 6.4L powerstroke...park it in a bad metro area neighborhood and leave the keys in the ignition and the signed title on the seat. That said....The throw away non-serviceable "unit bearings" went out. the "unit bearings" are plastic encased...hence throw away. Much better to have the serviceable Timken bearings. Check Out DynaTrac and their Heavy Duty Free Spin Hub Kits (with either Warn Premium or DynaLoc),

Does anyone have the P/N for just that orange rubber O ring .TIA

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

Ай бұрын

Gosh I sure dont

Wouldn’t you want to take some emery cloth and try and clean up the rust and corrosion on the hub?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

I suppose, sure

@akbychoice

3 жыл бұрын

Stainless steel wire brush at high speed, transfers just enough stainless to minimize corrosion. A light film or grease and use them once in awhile.

Every time I wash my truck I work this back and forth

Good info Arod. Thanks

Good mechanicalinfo. Missing is a description of locked or unlocked hub positions, since Ford didn't make it obvious.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

Жыл бұрын

Its says locked and auto in the face if the hub...

I couldn’t turn mine (‘13 250) corroded frozen and then the cover snapped off. Ordering new hub locking mechanism for both sides. Why do I like Ford so much? It’s always something.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

2 жыл бұрын

The question lies, why have you NOT been turning your hubs, so that THEY don't freeze and do what you just said.

Is this the same procedure for bothe manual and auto lockout hubs?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

Жыл бұрын

Yea

If anyone could respond I’d greatly appreciate I have a 2018 f250 and my manual hub lock outs don’t seem to work but my front axle turns could this possibly be my problem or something else?

Should the rust be sanded off? And some lube?

Do you have to replace them or can just regrease them and clean the rust

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

Жыл бұрын

These ud have 2 replace

@lexusman1989

Жыл бұрын

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod ok thank you

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

Жыл бұрын

🤙🤙

Nice video. Question, I’ve heard some people especially in snow belt areas November until spring keeping them in the lock position so as to wear out the auto function sooner then it eventually will? Do you agree?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Keeping them locked in keeps the front axle shafts spinning. Why would someone want 2 drive around with them spinning if your not in 4x4.......

@howardriggins4010

3 жыл бұрын

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod yeah not sure either just wanted your opinion. I’ve heard of people keeping them locked if there transitioning where they’re changing terrain, but back in auto once you’re back on pavement makes since.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Yea dont run em locked

What do you do when the cover (where the 3 screws hold it down) snaps in two leaving no access to the snap ring behind the locking hub?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

2 ай бұрын

You can't pop that hub lock out, out....?

@hillbj

2 ай бұрын

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod nope and tried locking (rotating) the hub snapped the ring off

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

2 ай бұрын

@hillbj whaaaaaaaa

When installing warn hubs do you need to block off the vacuum ports and if so how do you do it.

@DanMar5858

3 жыл бұрын

I’m also interested in this. I was just looking at the replacement Warn hubs the other day.

@zacharylalonde7065

3 жыл бұрын

@@DanMar5858 ever find an answer to this?

@15Jeep

2 жыл бұрын

I would say block off the vacuum ports and vacuum lines...or remove the lines. No need to allow dirt and micro sized particles to enter the hub via the port. Also, no longer need the solenoid that activates the vacuum. Call Warn, ask them to confirm.

@austindenotter19

2 жыл бұрын

@@15Jeep you are correct.

on 7.3s my 2001 Ive heard anytime u pull that hub that gasket must be replaced due to it being a vacuum seal?? Was there vacuum inside the hb? not sure if I remember correctly Longtime ago. . Also towards the end that truck would not shift into 4x4. I know the switch was good and vacuum was good. Were there common problems in that era like a shift motor? I got stranded once and always wondered what couldve been the problem with that 4x4 shift can you talk about the vacuum system in general and shift process..

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Theres a seal on these hubs....

My 2020 f250 is making a squeaky noise while in 4 wheel drive. Doesn’t matter if I’m in auto or manual but it does need to be in 4 wheel drive. it sounds like it is coming from the driver side hub area. Does not do it in 2 wheel drive with hubs in auto.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

2 жыл бұрын

Werd

I have a 2006 6.0 Fx4 truck and the 4x4 rarely works by the switch inside if I switch it over and same hardly works if I manually turn the hubs, I replaced the hubs and still the same issue what could it be? When it does engage the truck really hooks up good on bad terrain.

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

3 жыл бұрын

Gotta get it checked out

My pass side won’t disengage the axle still moves freely just won’t let the axle go I guess . Are they serviceable at all out of warranty 2019 with 217k miles

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

2 жыл бұрын

No the hubs are not serviceable they are just a unit you pop it out and pop the new one in just like you saw me

How do you know if a hub is bad?

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod

7 ай бұрын

Gotta use a vacuuum pump & gauge to see if vacuum is being held.

What if that hub just spins around when turning by hand?

@thisguy4397

Ай бұрын

On the "we don't talk about those ".