You can get Crusader Kings III and start raising your own armies using this link: play.crusaderkings.com/Invicta

@timrobinson513

3 жыл бұрын

Invicta I’d love to see a video on how armies were controlled in the field. How did the common soldiers know what to do? How were they paid? Did they have well known words of command? Did armies train as a whole? How were they supplied etc...

@jorgenoname6062

3 жыл бұрын

the new voice is more official I guess you could say but I miss the original tbh not that I'm hateing just a bit resistant to change I guess

@IronMoose95

3 жыл бұрын

Thats a crazy good sponsor

@mathgasm8484

3 жыл бұрын

I pre ordered it months ago its quite fun.

@petermills3814

3 жыл бұрын

Hey ladies + gentlemen at Invicta... as a die-hard fan of your great series for 5 years or so now, as an idea and request for later on = can you please do a part 3 or 4 video about this raising of Medieval armies series throughout from the Byzantine Empire?, of their armies and how they themselves organized their forces throughout their eras differently as time progressed from the late 300's to 1453 AD pretty please!. The Byzantine Greek Eastern Roman Empire is a playable faction in Crusader Kings, and most of us fans love this great civilization, and I personally think it would be a great addition addon to your series if mentioned = unless you've already got it planned already right now in development for a later episode, then that's great anyway and looking forward to it all. I'm just saying in case you accidently forget, so don't mind it too much ok = it's just a reminder that Byzantium was there during those whole periods as well and we would love to know more about them from this type of history series. Anyway, thanks for these great videos about history that you all put so much time and effort into them all = it's really appreciated by all of us! 😃😉😊😎😍😘🤩👍❤✔X

press “raise levies” in the military tab

@sovietstar6703

3 жыл бұрын

Aways remember to press “Disband” after

@crazydinosaur8945

3 жыл бұрын

@@sovietstar6703 it some nice money u have, would be a shame if someone forgot to disband your army

@WellBattle6

3 жыл бұрын

CrazyDinosaur Yourself. It’s always your own god fearing fault.

@MrRushSkies

3 жыл бұрын

Raise vassal levies at your own risk.

@Sovietube

3 жыл бұрын

@JS the Canuck lmfao

So you're telling me that armies don't just stay permanently mustered inside towns for over 200 turns?

@TheStapleGunKid

3 жыл бұрын

Nah cause if they did that, their general would get the "procrastinator" debuff.

@Root174

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheStapleGunKid Heh. In Shogun 2, generals can develop the trait 'An eye for the ladies'. Which, if I recall correctly, lowers the movement range of the general's army.

@TheStapleGunKid

3 жыл бұрын

@@Root174 Despite playing hundreds of hours of Shogun 2, I don't remember that. But I certainly remember the procrastinator Debuff from Warhammer 2. So infuriating because as your empire gets large, you have to lave armies at strategic points along your border.

@Root174

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheStapleGunKid Well, it only happens if you keep a general in one region for a little too long :P . I vaguely remember that generals could develop a similar trait in Rome Total War, but it's been a while. Which reminds me: if you use a general too often in Shogun 2, then he can develop the trait 'Delusions of grandeur'. Which lowers the general's loyalty. I've had that twice thus far (one for each of my two playthroughs).

@benlex5672

3 жыл бұрын

If you are Byzantine, then yes. Otherwise, no.

Never know when this sorta thing could come in handy

@daviddosani7500

3 жыл бұрын

We’re more than ready when the time comes around

@spaceytracey1237

3 жыл бұрын

Like now. In some parts of the world anyway. Coming to a town near you soon.

@crose1466

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I’m waiting for the world to end to use all the knowledge I’ve accumulated to form a city-state and kingdom.

@napolien1310

3 жыл бұрын

After WW3 apparently

@apollodivine

3 жыл бұрын

Time to raise some legions

You first need to build a mead hall and then warriors hall and then just click recruiting and raise armies

@daliberista4344

3 жыл бұрын

@Publius Vorenus Sextus don't forget the single scout equites unit who single handedly slew the general and his elite retinue

@jamesboulger8705

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@ThePhantom712

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@stjarnar

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the smell from the mead hall will serve as bait to attract the warriors to stay at the warrior hall. Legit tactic back in the day. 10/10

@ahmadalraisi2217

Жыл бұрын

What game

The Romans sure made logistics look easy

@TEverettReynolds

3 жыл бұрын

With unlimited slave labor, anything can be easy. Seriously, slaves also help keep the economy grounded with the minimum price for labor being $0 (think minimum wage). Once the supply of slaves dries up, costs go up, and before you know it, you are in the Middle Ages where you go broke trying to build and supply an army.

@y.z.6517

3 жыл бұрын

@@TEverettReynolds Slaves are poorly nurished and very hard to moltivate (read writings from slave owners in history). In agrian society, there was little surplus. Even moltivated laborers often starved in farmine. Keeping slaves fed was not easy. A country with people working for themselves tend to gain much more in taxation.

@alganhar1

3 жыл бұрын

@@y.z.6517 Roman slavery was more complex than the modern view of slavery. There were different levels, a slave in some of the hideously dangerous mines around the Empire for example could probably expect a rather short, brutal life. Other slaves however were highly valued, any slave with a trade for example. These would generally be well looked after, and even permitted to sell some of what they made for their own personal profit. Educated slaves were also highly prized, indeed, educated slaves could in fact become VERY powerful and wealthy in Roman society. The strange relationship Romans had with their slaves can be seen in Roman cemetaries. Often the slaves are buried in the same complexes as the families who owned them, just as interestingly a large proportion of them were buried free, in that they had been freed at some point but chose to remain with the family they had once served as slaves. The number of inscriptions detailing former slaves buried alongside Roman citizens is actually both extensive and remarkable. The point is the Roman system of slavery was very different to the one we are most familiar with, and while obviously brutal and terrible in many respects, was actually far more lenient in many others than more modern examples of slavery. Emancipation of slaves was typically fairly common in Roman society, in fact the Ancient Greeks used to comment on the Romans prediliction for freeing slaves that had pleased them. Another thing to bear in mind, is that slavery was pretty much universal at thise time, it was something that EVERYONE pretty much indulged in, it was not limited to Romans. More than half the population of Athens at its height were slaves, Spartans were in a distinct minority in Sparta, the Persians kept slaves, the Ethiopians, the Egyptians, the Gauls and various Celtic Tribes, the list goes on. Pretty much the whole known world during the Ancient Period was, to some extent, dependant on slavery.....

@y.z.6517

3 жыл бұрын

@@alganhar1 Sure, my point was that paying $0 wage does not mean costless. If you expect anyone to work hard and find solution with his own initiative, you have to convince him that doing so will benefit himself. At the first glance, mistreating slaves who will die soon in a dangerous mine may seem to make sense. Until you realized that slaves who are under stress will make far more mistakes, meaning that the mine will collapse more often. That means the mine needs to be dug again, and the lost slaves and tools need to be bought again. In addition, slaves who are expected to die soon will do anything to run away. That means that you need to hire more guards who are expensive to maintain.

@y.z.6517

3 жыл бұрын

@@alganhar1 A common practice for managing slaves who were expected to die was to let them indulge themselves with alcohol and hoes. Slaves enjoying immediate pleasure are more likely to forget their stress and remote danger. Roman gladiators, for example, were paid 7 times more than legionary soldiers.

Uh, a Swadian recruit is just like 10 denars.

@bificommander

3 жыл бұрын

Then you just spend some time strolling around the country side beating up half-naked bandits with clubs and, presto, your recruits will turn into knights in full plate.

@f0rk16

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh I've been paying 40 denars for Sarranid recruits

@agustintrivino9365

3 жыл бұрын

@@f0rk16 disregard the Sarranids until you can fund your own crusade

@GanjaMasterBlaster

3 жыл бұрын

Well All you really need are Rhodok Sharpshooters

@agustintrivino9365

3 жыл бұрын

@@GanjaMasterBlaster heavy cavalry goes swooosh

Call the banners Summon the elector counts *WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!* That's how you do it, humie.

@carloreytansiongco8741

3 жыл бұрын

Medieval Humans: You must pick up arms because it is your moral and social obligation as a vassal to your liege. Orks: Oi, I hear dis Nob be goin to a proppa fightin. We can’t be missing the acshun! We can’t be missin da LOOTIN! Vikings: How is that weird?

@Sorutirei

3 жыл бұрын

We didn't hav enug TEEF, Boss!

@jascrandom9855

3 жыл бұрын

DEUS VOLT!!!

@matthiuskoenig3378

3 жыл бұрын

@@carloreytansiongco8741 *vikings: lets go steal stuff and hope we don't run into soldiers other scandinavians: naa, lets go conquer remember folks, the vikings were just a bunch of sea bandits. they didn't want real fights. norse/danish/etc did launch invasions but they weren't vikings when they did so.

@carloreytansiongco8741

3 жыл бұрын

Lord Solar Matthius confirmed Vikings are just sea orks. While actual Scandinavian invasions are all just a big WAAAGH

This really puts into context the logistical insanity of the Crusades

@robertjarman3703

3 жыл бұрын

The Peasant's Crusade did more damage to Christian kingdoms like Serbia and Hungary and even the Byzantine provinces in the north than they did against the Muslims in Anatolia where they were ultimately defeated. Although that fact, that they were so easy to defeat, made the said Muslims complacent and were oblivious to the real army that was professional and would actually be able to seize Jerusalem.

@forickgrimaldus8301

3 жыл бұрын

The 1st Crusade should have not even be successful at all as logistics was a Bich to the point where they have to relay on pillaging anatolian cities there is even a case of cannibalisim in one instance so when the Crusaders eventually reach Jerusalem the result was almost inescapable when the Fatimid garrison did not hand over the city.

@forickgrimaldus8301

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertjarman3703 It was thanks to some hermit named Peter.

@Cyricist001

3 жыл бұрын

It did delay Muslim expansion for a time, giving Europeans time to prepare.

@forickgrimaldus8301

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cyricist001 just remember that Islamic expansion was not unified under one Caliph or Sultan but like any religious/political movement divided by states so them fighting each other already did slow the expansion however a European at the time would shake his/her legs because the Islamic world was bigger and more advanced than Europe with the Seljuks looking like they can burn down the Byzantines and reach Europe proper. So the real way the crusades helped curve the expansion was to push back Islam with the Crusades to the Holy land in the east and the Reconquesta in the west which would not expand into Europe until the Ottomans showed up.

So basically, popular media depicts assembly of a medieval army as a ruler tapping ~ and typing "spawn_rohirrim 6000" into the console.

@skyworm8006

3 жыл бұрын

It depicts it more like modern national militaries and the king a dictator of a nationstate. I think the reality is more interesting and fairer than the modern style.

Hey the muster of Rohan wasn’t just a random line in the books. It took a whole chapter!

@milankadar4864

3 жыл бұрын

And "summon the banners" is explained in details in the books for example it took Rob a month to assemble a rushed army

@Jalil8171

3 жыл бұрын

Big caveat. In the BOOKS! I think narrator was mostly referring to depiction in movies. The Witcher books also details a lot about mustering armies. When Temeria is prepping it's army against Nilfgaard and the whole ordeal Jarre goes thru to get enlisted and just ends up in the PIF (poor fucking infantry) is golden 😂

@requiemaeternam3406

3 жыл бұрын

In the books Gondor got an absolute tons of allies with parades going on for days. The only fantasy series that i’ve seen showing almost accurate logistics(if you don’t count magic) is the Wheel of Time. In Lotr armies simply eat out of thin air.

@colinsanders9397

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, that'ss not just a regular chapter; its a Tolkien chapter.

@incanusolorin2607

3 жыл бұрын

Requiem Aeternam As far as I remember the parade of the armies of the Southern Fiefs marching into Minas Tirith only took a few hours and people were even disappointed about how few soldiers arrived. So there weren’t tons of allies. Actually, I think the Lords leading those armies should be considered vassals of the Lord of Minas Tirith, not allies. Also, there is mention of large stocks of provisions in Minas Tirith, the daily food rations were reduced when the siege started and all useless mouths were sent away from the city beforehand, so the armies were not eating out of thin air. I’m not saying LotR is realistic, just trying to clarify some points, ok?

Kingdom Come Deliverance is a good example of small scale warfare and large. Large scale being sigismunds invasion, and the smaller scale being the battles fought by the lords against what the game calls bandits, but could be seen as an actual army under the command of the Robber Barron Istvan Toth.

@soundgfx7166

3 жыл бұрын

ah yes, KCD I love that game even if it constantly shits on my face with realistic gameplay.

@benjaminmcclelland2464

3 жыл бұрын

@Super Aventail those types of smaller conflicts were common between lords. It was interesting when they talked to Konrad Kyeser and he wanted to build a bunch of fancy rockets like what they used at Nicopolis to siege Talmberg, and the lords looked at him dumbly like he was an idiot for thinking small lords like them had access to explosives.

@EroticOnion23

3 жыл бұрын

Basically like modern day gangsters and mafia war, small scale hit and run...

@awaeelnaw

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this, I was wondering what games include this kind of content 😁

@requiemaeternam3406

3 жыл бұрын

So glad they changed the name of high tier bandits in Men at Arms. Just real life if you see 3 shining bushes you run away asap.

That’s why King Arthur went around recruiting local knights and explaining how to know if someone is a witch

@rinck17

3 жыл бұрын

Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?

@rohitrai6187

3 жыл бұрын

Anarcho-syndicalist communes

@microwaveenthusiast7410

3 жыл бұрын

She turned me into a newt

@velveteensallet949

3 жыл бұрын

@@rinck17 An enlightened man who learned that the Earth is in the shape of a banana.

@MrDalisclock

3 жыл бұрын

@@microwaveenthusiast7410 considering you can type i can only assume you got better

A small detail from LotR (this might be in the extended cut) I liked was that we see Theoden ride through the camp where his armies are mustering and is informed how many men have arrived from different areas.

@jessepigram1039

3 жыл бұрын

It is in the theatrical release. It is a nice touch. Tolkien was a meticulous man (for clarity, I'm not saying Tolkien wrote the film, rather this detail, or similar, was in the books)

@untruelie2640

3 жыл бұрын

@@Madhattersinjeans The movies are crap when it comes to details. Tolkien had been a soldier in WW1 and was a skilled linguist and historian. He was indeed quite meticulous when it came to small details. In the book, Théoden is already gathering his forces (due to Gandalf's advice) in Dunharg, when the messengers of Gondor arrive to request his help and he isn't hesitant at all.

@MDP1702

3 жыл бұрын

@@untruelie2640 The fact that he had to think about it was actually a nice touch in the movies. I'd say this is one example where a change wasn't bad.

@untruelie2640

3 жыл бұрын

@@MDP1702 I beg to differ. It is more of a needless dramatisation in my opinion. Théoden had a gondorian mother (according to Tolkien) and did grow up in Gondor; he had been a loyal ally of Gondor during his entire reign. Asking the dramatic question "Were was Gondor when the Westfold fell?" does complete injustice to his character and pretty much ignores his backstory. The alliance between the Rohirrim and Gondor was the backbone of Rohan's foreign policy for over 200 years; the land Calenardhon (Rohan) was given to them under the explicit condition that they would be allied to Gondor under all circumstances. (Not to mention the fact that Gondor was in no position at all to send troops to help Rohan in its fight against Saruman's army, because it was already occupied with defending Osgiliath, Cair Andros and its coast.) There are other great injustices to characters and events in the movies. Denethor, for example, is not reluctant to ignite the signal beacons of Gondor; they are already burning (!) while Gandalf and Pippin are still on their way to Minas Tirith and even before the gondorian messengers arrive at Dunharg. The movie completely ignores Denethor's skillfull and rational war conduct in order transform him into a cheesy antagonist. He only descents into madness and hopelessness, after Faramir is wounded.

@MDP1702

3 жыл бұрын

@@untruelie2640 *Théoden had a gondorian mother (according to Tolkien) and did grow up in Gondor; he had been a loyal ally of Gondor during his entire reign.* Which you don't know if you watch the movie and is thus irrelevant in terms of the movie. *Asking the dramatic question "Were was Gondor when the Westfold fell?" does complete injustice to his character and pretty much ignores his backstory.* Actually I personally think that asking this question, being upset that Gondor didn't help at all and still going to Gondors aid is a much more intriguing character than just the typical loyal vassal/ally. *The alliance between the Rohirrim and Gondor was the backbone of Rohan's foreign policy for over 200 years* 1. People that didn't read the books, but just watched the movies didn't necessarily know this. 2. This gives even more reason for Theoden to ask why Gondor didn't send any help. *the land Calenardhon (Rohan) was given to them under the explicit condition that they would be allied to Gondor under all circumstances.* I know, people watching the movie don't. And if they are allied, then where was Gondor when Rohan needed them? Seems like Theodens question still could very much apply. *(Not to mention the fact that Gondor was in no position at all to send troops to help Rohan in its fight against Saruman's army, because it was already occupied with defending Osgiliath, Cair Andros and its coast.)* And? Theoden might not be completely aware of Gondors truly precarious situation and nevertheless Gondor could have send a small detachment of troops, even just symbolically. And Theoden might have said the question more out of a feeling, not knowledge. Afterall he almost immediately decides to help Gondor. It sounds like they might have messed up Denethor indeed. But I still think the "Where was gondor" followed by a small pause and "master the rohirrim" was not necessarily a bad change. I think both this and the book version might have worked well. Though from what I hear the book version seems a little "bland". Personally I stopt reading the first book when I was maybe a third or less in. I didn't really like it. Maybe it is because of the older nature of the writing/language, though I didn't like the story much too up to that point. I think it was a good choice not putting Bombadil in the movie for example.

Writing a middle ages novel. The hard part for me is being able to keep everything realistic without bloating the story with history terms and jargon. This is VERY valuable information for me! Thank you.

@suisiwara2036

3 жыл бұрын

Yoo bro im kinda curious about ur novel. Is it a webnovel? If so where can i read it

@Jaymo00

3 жыл бұрын

@@suisiwara2036 thank you for the interest!! Ive had it saved on a google doc for years. Slowly been evolving and changing as i get older. Its tough to get substantial work on it because i am so busy with college. It’s nowhere near done but i am determined to finish it one day. I dont want to make any money off it im doing it just for fun. Might release it online when it’s completed

@Jaymo00

3 жыл бұрын

@Jeremiah Boyd thank you much appreciated! I feel you. Writing books are so time consuming its been a work in progress for over 7 years now i think. Sometimes i feel like i will never finish but i just do it as a creative outlet not for my income. I just tell myself “i want to finish my story before i die” hahaha

@suisiwara2036

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jaymo00 i feel you. I started a novel when i was in grade school i havent finished it too :/. Anyways ill wait for you to release your novel

@siddheshkakade2888

3 жыл бұрын

You guys are inspiring me to write one as welll

Recruiting armies is the easiest thing. Just have enough money and spawn complete armies in a few rounds in total war

@lazy_nyt

3 жыл бұрын

True. Hard part is maintaining them for longer period and having patience in amassing which takes forever lmao

@miguelmontenegro3520

3 жыл бұрын

Screw levies. Imperial Red Coats are the best

@sztypettto

3 жыл бұрын

One round in TW (Rome, Attila, Britannia, Medieval) is a season. That's 3 months.

@matthiuskoenig3378

3 жыл бұрын

@@sztypettto medieval 2 had 2 years per turn.

@sztypettto

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthiuskoenig3378 , thanks for the correction. Been almost a decade since I played.

I appreciate you giving our savior, the Prince of Altdorf, Sigmar’s Heir, Son of Emperors and Emperor Himsef Karl Franz a spotlight.

@solwen

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure this action has his consent.

@SerbyTPA

3 жыл бұрын

@@solwen He is Franz. They will obey

@forickgrimaldus8301

3 жыл бұрын

Well his empire is based on the holy roman empire (but much more organized and have more solid boarders) and is a bit closer to a real king as he has to deal with his many lower ranking counts (electors) as they can basically veto his moves. In some cases even revolt or in Marianburgs case secide

@theZXDgames

3 жыл бұрын

@@forickgrimaldus8301 Marienburg bought it's independence from a lousy emperor of old though

@forickgrimaldus8301

3 жыл бұрын

That just demonstrate the power of the elector counts though as the emperor at the time of the secession is so weak

When everything is going so well Notification: Your King gains the trait *generous* you lose 90% of your annual income

@linhhoang1363

3 жыл бұрын

when 'supposedly' nice traits become annoying

@theycallmedoorway9913

3 жыл бұрын

i swear, charitable and kind are the worst personality traits in ck2

@what-oy8il

2 жыл бұрын

@@theycallmedoorway9913 not in ck2 they not

@veryangryduckpl2122

2 жыл бұрын

King without traits is better than king with 7 virtues

I heard my neighbor watching this so I'm assuming he's planning on something. Nevertheless I will join his army and liberate some land!

@cerridianempire1653

3 жыл бұрын

or loot some gold hopefully I'm in the rear

@colinsanders9397

3 жыл бұрын

This is medieval warfare, boy! We don't liberate land. We subjugate it.

@cerridianempire1653

3 жыл бұрын

@@colinsanders9397 or loot it at least

@dubuyajay9964

3 жыл бұрын

Arrange a political marriage with his family while you still can.

@cerridianempire1653

3 жыл бұрын

@@dubuyajay9964 but what if he dies

That "summon the elector counts" was unexpected and brought shivers to my spine

@latter-daysaintbatman2679

Жыл бұрын

I already knew the quote was going to be included as I had expected that scene from the Kingdom of Heaven.

Interestingly enough, Canute the IV of Denmark actually got overthrown because he assembled his levies, in their longboats, and held the trigger for too long, as his levies were peasants, they had a harvest to handle. The levies eventually elected his brother to try and reason with him, that brother was then shipped off to Flanders for "unknown" reasons, and even though Canute the IV did disperse his levies from their anchorage, he did make it clear he was going to assemble them next year. Unfortunately, he did hand out fines to the peasants that had gone home and this was 1085, Danish peasants were fairly powerful back then, he stayed at a Royal Farm in northern Jytland and the local peasants rose up in revolt. The end would happen half a country away, in the city of Odense on the island of Fyn, King Canute the IV was killed on the very altar of Saint Albany's Church (The First one, not the present one) after being chased all the way from start of the revolt. His brother would take over as King, Olaf "Hunger", and yes, that's a king who's was called "famine", as such, people got the idea that Canute the IV was a martyr and God was pissed, Canute the Holy was what he became after this, his skeleton can be seen today at the Church of Canute the Holy in Odense. A few more notes, Olaf the Hunger's burial site is unknown, a theory is that he was essentially a human sacrifice, the old days of the Norse wasn't that far away at the time, and that his body parts were spread all over the country, as a form of blood price to regain favour from the God(s). Interestingly enough, both Canute and Olaf were illegitimate, add in another two half brother who were also kings, their father King Svend Estridsen did not keep it in his pants.

@cccpredarmy

3 жыл бұрын

You really talk about Danmark? Or... KHORNES REALM??!!!

@r.u.s.e3586

3 жыл бұрын

This is interesting history!

I always just mass clicked "train" on the zerglings and hoped for the best.

@justdracir8197

3 жыл бұрын

We found our next Overmind guys.

@sirBrouwer

3 жыл бұрын

there where no trains in the middle ages. that is where it went wrong.

@epicfail5473

3 жыл бұрын

You mean "Morph"

@firejuggler31

3 жыл бұрын

Zerg was always my bane. Best chance was to build the Supply Depots in a narrow part of the most likely line of approach, then hope the Zerglings get delayed.

@eyesofstatic9641

3 жыл бұрын

@@firejuggler31 My turtle brethren!

Ck2 thought me that medieval warfare is ez. Just: >Become the Irish emperor of Alba >Make an antipope >Raise up 2 of the biggest merc armies in the map and sail them near rome >Press antipope's claim on the papalcy >win, since the pope's raised army is at 0 moral >use new pope vassal to make claims on all catholics that are not your vassals >profit

@bajlozi6873

3 жыл бұрын

I never bothered with antipopes but this makes sense...

@romyarmada9580

3 жыл бұрын

Stonks

Two months to mobilize? No wonder countries were fretting about being first to mobilize right up to WW I.

@guardiadecivil6777

3 жыл бұрын

victoria 2 captures this feeling perfectly where if you mobilize your economy collapses, rebellion appears imminent and you increase the chance of a great war happening where every nation who will fight in it will see a shitton of their populations or even their empire falling apart but hey at least you got like a shitton of farmers to send as meatshields

@pretzelbomb6105

3 жыл бұрын

It took even longer to mobilize once World War 1 came around. Train schedules and standing forces helped a little, but artillery pieces and airplanes require a lot more logistical support than a guy with a spear. And that’s not even mentioning the titanic quantities of ammunition and rations required for the average soldiers and even more support for specialized equipment like trench mortars and machine guns. Replacement parts, cleaning kits, gasoline, tires, horse feed, whetstones, telegraph wire, medical supplies, gas masks, and more all had to be sourced and supplied en masse before you could even THINK about declaring war. War is hard and exponentially expensive.

@artruisjoew5473

3 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile in Ancient Rome: logistical preparation for a small scale campaign can be done in a week, legion can move out immediately afterwards. Took Europe a millennia to re-learn what it destroyed.

@darter9000

3 жыл бұрын

@@artruisjoew5473 I do think having a far more centralized government helped the Roman Empire. Having no need to negotiate with nobles does seem to help mobilization.

@alganhar1

3 жыл бұрын

@@pretzelbomb6105 Many of those weapons did not exist in 1914, or existed in small numbers. Gas masks, did not exist, Gas was not used until 1915, arguably the french were first with a tear Gas attack, but the Germans were first with a fatal agent at Ypres. Trench Mortars were not developed until 1915 - 1916, the most useful being the Stokes Mortar, which is the basis of all modern mortars. Heavy artillery was rare even in the German Army in 1914, and they only had more of it than anyone else because they knew they were going to have to go through the Belgian Border Forts, which would need a seige train. Pretty much everyone else relied on Field Artillery..... Aircraft as well were relatively minor logistically in 1914. Of course, all these would change during the war! But other than those little nitpicks, pretty much spot on, as you mentioned (and so many forget) the mobilisation timetables of all the major powers with the exception of Britain (which traditionally had a very small, professional Army) was wholly dependant on train timetables. Indeed, both France and Germany had literally planned out their entire rail networks with war against the other in mind. This is why you see so many rail lines in those days running parrallel to the borders with other lines meeting them from within, this was done for easy movement of troops from one part of the country to another to meet potential attacks. This, and the fact that the only exploitation arm, the cavalry, was obsolete is actually a large part of the problem the Generals faced. An attack could only proceed at walking pace, but the defenders could quickly train in reserves to plug any gap. The logistics issues only got worse as the war went on, modern warfare was essentially born in the Trenches of WWI. In 1914 an infantry platoon in every major army was fairly large, and was comprised of 100% riflemen. In contrast, by 1918 a British Infantry Platoon consisted of two rifle sections (a section is the British term for a squad at the time), each built around a Lewis gun, a gun section built around two Lewis guns, a Grenadier Section, and a heavy section which was made up of rifle grenadiers and a couple of 3 inch mortars. This is a combined arms unit that looks in many ways similar to a modern Infantry platoon. Of course, though these extra weapons gave the platoon more firepower, it also meant far more equipment had to be supplied to each platoon. The real logistics explosion however was artillery shells! There are photographs of dumps of expended shells that number literally hundreds of thousands of empty brass shell cases. These would be shipped back and recycled! They were shooting so many shells that they literally had to recycle the brass cases to keep up with demand.

The Roman's really had it made for awhile there, Discipline and their theater of combat via land or sea is incredible to read about. Sure many armies could fight and conquer... the Roman's always brought hammers with builders to fights to Campaigns. Tools and logistics are what made Rome admirable and effective.

@joshuaiam485

3 жыл бұрын

@Black Solid true caesar and his many wall building's won him countless battles..even when the odds were impossible..

@VarietyGamerChannel

3 жыл бұрын

@Black Solid No, this would have been the babylonians.

The game Dragon Age: Origins covered this very well. Despite looming doom they had their own issues and needed time to assemble, and even then you only get a limited amount of troops to handle it while lords keep a force behind to defend themselves

Instructions unclear: accidentally cause the apocalypse. Sent for Mongols, Templars, Samurais. Send everyone. HELP!.

@lastone9744

3 жыл бұрын

The Knights of Europe come to your aid!!!

@witchhunter6755

3 жыл бұрын

Rome laughs at your desperate situation

@dariustiapula

3 жыл бұрын

@@witchhunter6755 *Suddenly demons in the middle of the Vatican*

@Sin526

3 жыл бұрын

@@dariustiapula *"the SLAYER has entered the facility"*

@MK_ULTRA420

3 жыл бұрын

I told the Pentagon the apocalypse has crude oil and is trying to sell it for a non-USD currency. There problem solved.

I think Karl-Franz is an odd choice. Although it's true that the electoral counts are his feudal subjects, the different imperial provinces employ standing, professional armies, which they send to aid their emperor. Karl-Franz himself commands the troops of his own province

@enriquecabrera2137

3 жыл бұрын

Ok... And?

@ValerianLincinius

3 жыл бұрын

@@enriquecabrera2137 nothing in particular. I just mentioned that their example regariding Karl-Franz is not that well choosen :)

@enriquecabrera2137

3 жыл бұрын

@@ValerianLincinius ok

@Archris17

3 жыл бұрын

The Empire is actually a really fascinating example of worldbuilding for how they go into detail about each province keeping a standing army and how the Free Companies feature in the Imperial army. Old GW really put in the work to make it feel real.

@enriquecabrera2137

3 жыл бұрын

@@Archris17 it was a proper example since a lot if not MOST empires did their army building that way. But turbonerd Valerian apparently didnt likenit because it wasn't super ultra specific enough

Something new? Something medieval? Hell yeah!

@facundocadaa9020

3 жыл бұрын

I believe that if something is medieval it won't be something new

@benm5913

3 жыл бұрын

Don't you get too excited there. You're supposed to keep doing early modern stuff. P..Please?

@sirBrouwer

3 жыл бұрын

something blue

@facundocadaa9020

3 жыл бұрын

@@sirBrouwer I got that

Finally! I've researched this topic a lot and I can see how much work you guys have done, plus it's so great to see the information consolodated this way. Please, we need a part two soon. Keep up the good work.

I am so glad you adressed the issue of "unwashed pesants witch pitchforks", because it was insulting to the memory of all those people, who died at war... Including pesants. In my country, quite a big portion of pesantry(just below 40%) were "Kmiecie"(plural. Singular: Kmieć- don't know, if other nations have equivalent of those). Those were free men, who paid taxes directly to the king, not to some local lord and had a land to their name(about 20 hectares- some had over 25, some just over 17, but fucking about with this would take too much time). Those people often had time to train at least some time, and money for decent equipement, if they wanted to pursue military career- if they could be presuaded to fight, they could prove to be very good infantry- even in later times, when most armies had professional soldiers

@Vlad_Tepes_III

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not entirely certain which country you're from, but in England (and in similarly Anglophone countries as well, I suppose), that type of combined professional soldier and wealthy land-owning peasant would be called a yeoman. These were the people who would wield the famed longbows the English were famous (or infamous, depending on who you ask) for using to devastating effect against the French in the hundred years war. It would be intuitive to assume that almost every feudal culture would have elites even among the commoners, who, unlike most other levies, would be wealthy landowners in peace and bridge the gap between lesser trained levies and the professional warriors of the military aristocracy.

@heretyk_1337

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vlad_Tepes_III Well, i am slav, and we brought our own castes, then adapted them to fit feudal World better. And frankly, before XIIth century, word "kmieć" meant "prince's dignitary". But after XIIth century, when class of town and city dwellers was properly established- something between nobles and peasantry, as far as rights and priviliges were concerned, at least over here- "kmieć" meant basically a wealthy peasant. I guess every country has it's own little nuances- still it is good, that myth of unruly, pitchforks wielding, unwashed, cowardly rube is going away, one video at the time :)

@MK_ULTRA420

3 жыл бұрын

@@heretyk_1337 The perception of unwashed peasant soldiers fighting with pitchforks probably comes from media since costumes for armies can get very expensive or it's done as a joke like Monty Python.

@heretyk_1337

3 жыл бұрын

@@MK_ULTRA420 I'll be a paranoid one here, thank you very much, Mr. CIA Program(just fucking with you) But i think that myth comes from bit different source... If you watch ANY kind of historical drama, or even fantasy that is somewhat rooted in history, like "Game of Thrones", what will you get? Clegry i corrupted, and they do nothing but fuck nuns, drink wine, and lie through their teeth. Knights and nobles are always arrogant, they care not about their subjects, they even shoot for sport/rape/feed those subjects to the dogs/ do some other terrible shit for the fuck of it... They supress them, keep them uneducated, use them for their nefarious purposes, vent frustrations on them from time to time and try to keep the World within the norm... Peasants are stupid, cannot read, or count, are cowered in shit, no matter what they do(they could be writting, they will still have dirty hands...), and only thing, that separates them from farmyard animals is, that it is them, who hold the string attached to said animal's mouth piece, and not the other way around... They shovel shit from one heap to the other all day... AND THERE IS ALWAYS BRAVE, NEW HERO OUT THERE, TO CHALLENGE OLD, STIFF ORDER, AND TO CHANGE THIS TRAGIC WORLD INTO SOMETHING MORE AKIN TO OURS, WHICH IS, OH!, SO FAIR... Because admitting, that there were wealthy merchants, coming out of paesants' ranks, who climbed the ladders on ther own, or that free person could become a noble or city dweller- that there was upward movement in society, much like it happens today, just then it took some brave thing to be done-, or that lords very often fought to defend their people(some did it from the goodness of their hearts, but even if not, it was surely done to keep thier workers alive- mutually beneficial relationship), or that in times of drought or flood some nobles would give away food from their storages and wouldn't require commoners to work their fields, so they could tend to their own damaged propety, EVEN IF law fully allowed them to exploit their peasants further(in my country that would be XVIIth century, not medieval times, but example still stands), or that a knight, caught in act of raping, or killing a member of peasantry, for the fuck of it- would be tortured publicly(or at the very least, had to pay hefty sum of money and was tasked by some clergy representative to do something to wash away the blood)- admiting to all of that would require Hollywood to: 1. Actually caring about telling truth. 2. Realizing, that world was as complex, as ours is. 3. Get their heads out of their asses, and realizing tha: wealthy= bad, poor= good mentality from Vietnam War Era isn't exactly applicable to people living from 500 to 1000 years ago, with mentality so much different, than ours, that we could kind off think about them as of different planet inhabitants... When i tell people, that castes gave people stability, assurance in life, and certain freedoms in some aspects, while taking it in others- people look at me, like i just fell down from the Moon. Y'know, because they SAW THE MOVIES, AND IN THOSE MOVIES IT WASN"T LIKE I SAID... Because, as we all know(SARCASM): we are smarter, than people in medieval times, because we have computers...- to which i respond with "do you know, how to make computer? Toaster? Toilet paper? Penicillin? Any other miracle of science, that you are so keen to point out to me? Anyway- it is long rant, but i trust, you will get the point :)

@DogseatDogs

3 жыл бұрын

@@heretyk_1337 The irony is the top heads of Hollywood were and still are delusional dirtbags who either believed in their own self-rightousness or didn't care anything at all except money. So they propped themselves up and put all others down to maintain power that they had. Edit: Almost like the same evil feudal lords they depicted in their films.

While I'm not huge on the writer and some content, I feel the Witcher books did a surprisingly decent job on showing off aspects of the mustering, rallying and disbanding

I hear "Summon the elector counts!" i press like!

Well from what i know, during the ancient Egypt war campaigns and the famous Alexander the Great conquest, they didnt had much issues with gathering the army. Egypt and Greece had trained military forces, they were on stand-by and lived their lifes up until a war broke. The Roman empire, that was there long before the Medieval era, already had an army that served as one on daily basis, so no farming or doing any other things for them. The idea was to pass a law where ALL able men are to be trained, and when needed called to arms something that is still used today "Hollywood" movies such as Games of Thrones (which is not a Hollywood movie), shows it well. Every city\castle have soldiers, who work as peasants on daily basis, but when needed they instantly recruited by the local lord. the lord provide them with weapons\armor. While some landlords provided supplies like food. They then joined up and form a part of an army, that joins with others into a larger army. Untrained peasants are BAD fighters, so every lord wanted his peasants to master the art of war at least to some basic form. and it is much cheaper to train a peasant then to give an untrained peasant cheap weapons, and he will then just instantly die, loosing all the equipment, and the lord himself loosing a men who now can no longer work the fields

YES! I was having a debate about this recently! Thanks for the great video!

@8888stealth

3 жыл бұрын

Ya win?

THANK. YOU. SO. MUCH. I was always wondering how did raising of an medieval army happen and now you answered that question for me. Again, thank you Invicta!

Thank you for these videos. You are doing a noble thing by making all of these complex systems so much easier to understand and the art is attractive. The sponsor even goes along perfectly with your topic.

Studying how armies work so that I can make a comprehensive war setting in my DnD campaign. 😌✨

This is very valuable information. I definitely needed to know how to raise myself a medieval army.

The quality of the video is just astonishing. Great work !

What an incredible channel you’ve built. Keep up the amazing work and thank you.

Your content is Netflix worth dude, the production quality is top notch.

Knew this was Paradox-sponsored before I even opened the video, great that Iove both Invicta and Paradox Games ❤️

An extremely informative video on a topic I never put a lot of thought into in spite of being a fan of this kind of thing, thank you Invcita.

Animation and narrative are really awesome, good job for the music also, great video!

You recruit them from villages then you go fight bandits, also having a good amount of skill on training helps

This was so very interesting Though I'll have to re-watch it tomorrow to truly get the gist of it

Man the art and music in CKIII is SO GOOD. Glad you got to use it for this video.

Thankyou so much for this video! I wanted to learn about this and you came in just at the right time!

Love the art and looking forwards to your next episode, but to defend Theoden, it did show the army mustering in the mountain valley, it didn't take long because the Rohirrim were at a time of war and waiting to be called to arms.

Thanks for this video. I'm working on a low fantasy novel that has a lot of armies and campaigning (albeit set in a pseudo bronze age instead of medieval), so this is pretty helpful.

This was a very well designed and informative video! Thank you!

Love the background music, perfect choice for this history essay, well done sir!

Any plans on making a video or videos on how during the medieval time supply lines armys marching paths where choosen, and tactial war targets? LOVE! this kind of stuff :)

"However discusions of this will have to wait for another video." Nooooo I want it now!

YES I VE BEEN WAITING THANK YOU!!!

Great content. Glad I found your channel while researching the HYW.

Absolutely love representing armies as figurines.

Digging the art style :))

Im am so glad there is someone making this content.

Would love to see more about the logistics of medieval warfare, or more exact compositions of armies by country. That sort of thing. Great video for history buffs and writers!

I’ve been looking for this video for some time. Never found it. Well, now I did.

Perfect timing. I was just about to raise a modern army.

Very interesting, great video, absolutely amazing! I would love to watch more of these types of videos.

Very well laid out and informative. Thank you.

All ready bought the game, absolutely amazing!!!

BY THE COMET. *SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS!* (Elector Counts boop out of nowhere)

Loved this video. Your content just keeps getting better and better!

Thank you! I've been needing this for a while!

1241AD mod for Warband was pretty interesting in setting a difference between permanent retinue and village levies

Oh boy you have no idea how long I've been waiting for technology to invent a means to explain this to me, and for _Invicta_ to be born, so I can fiinally learn this; I'm talking since 1412 A.D. ..... Now I can finally raise an army. 😄

Added this to my writing playlist. Thank you.

I'm fully immersed in the History of Byzantium podcast, so I appreciate starting the episode with a reference to how different they were from the rest of Europe!

France has a standing army since the late medieval era. Charles VII made an ordinnance to raise a standing army that help him to win the war.

@VarietyGamerChannel

3 жыл бұрын

It was smol. Very smol. Teeny tiny. Like a skeleton crew of 2000-3000 that would then be supplemented later. Nothing compared to rome's standing force of over 20 legions/600,000 troops or ming china's 1,000,000 full time troops in the 1300's.

@Dylan-pj7rv

2 ай бұрын

​@@VarietyGamerChannelFrench standing army in late Medieval era was of 9.000 men-at-arms, full professionals. Which for european standards was a significant and costly army to maintain, so it's useless to compare with the Romans or China

It surprises me how many similarities i found related to M&B: Warband and Bannerlord

This is my favorite history content right now! What a change from Total War playthroughs!

Thanks, I’ll be needing this

this seems like it might be very useful in explaining how the draft works in the US and the difference of conscripts, draftees, reserves, and compulsory enlistment.

raising army need lots of gold and food me : *typed "Robin Hood" and "Cheese steak jimmy's"

I don't usually subscribe to every channel i come across,but this channel for my attention And is interesting,plus explains in depth You earned my subscription for life

The voice, the animations and art, realy explains in details, music...All of it. Thank you so much! Very useful for my DND campaign :D

I love that he included summon the elector counts 🤣🤣

Excellent video I’m also curious as to how the soldiers of this time period would be trained. I suspect that in many kingdoms and empires the quality of training might have been inferior to Rome during its prime, but that the quality of soldiers supplied might vary even among villages. How were various medieval units trained, such as heavy Calvary or archers, and who would be responsible for training them?

@kskaiseraaron

3 жыл бұрын

It would've been a lot of self teaching and sustainment. Squires learning and training under Knights. Possibly a concept similar to the modern reserves where the "peasants" were equipped and paid to train occasionally. There is evidence that often the fyrd (levies) would be somewhat equipped and allowed to keep those weapons as a result of military service when called upon. Furthermore, as far as the skirmishers and archers, hunting was a major way of life and many bowmen would've mastered their craft hunting. My two cents worth anyway

@JustGrowingUp84

3 жыл бұрын

@Zach Juarez I'm curios too, I could find extremely little information about it, especially about lower class soldiers. Rich people usually used the services of a master-at-arms, who would train nobles and their retinue. Wealthy nobles could even afford the services of a personal trainer. From these masters we have a plethora of combat treatises starting from the Late Middle Ages - check out Wiktenauer for many such treatises who are translated into modern English. As for lower class soldiers, as far as I can tell, it was either their father, or a veteran from their village/town, or a during a campaign a veteran soldier or even a master-at-arms could train the levies (not during marching, obviously, but during camping, sieges etc.). However, a lot of this info is conjecture, assumptions and guessing. I don't know of any source from that time that clearly tell us the situation and gives us details, when it comes to who does the training of commoners... :(

@EroticOnion23

3 жыл бұрын

The Brit longbowman trained every Sunday after church iirc

@mirrormask7946

3 жыл бұрын

@@kskaiseraaron Makes a lot of sense. That's actually quite a logical explanation. Most of these peasants, who volunteered for service, had a considerably large family, who took care of the land(s)/craft/business, while they did some soldiering for a bit of extra cash. (By wages paid to them, AND, preferably by looting enemy/neutral lands, as they paid more, on their way to, and from battle.) More the loot, better the savings for home, and better the equipment they could afford, for the next battle.( better equipment translated into better pay.) After a few battles, (if they managed to survive long enough, and were lucky enough to get lots of loot), they naturally developed better combat skills, and had much better gear. Guess, what that means? It means, that, the next time they go to battle/war, their status would automatically be increased from a member of a peasant levy, to that of a MERCENARY. Now, obviously, mercenaries had far better pay, and had much less to worry about regarding sharing of loot, since, they were less in number, and didn't have to pay a bigger share to the lords, who led the peasants, since mercenaries were generally granted a much higher degree of freedom. Thus, more pay, more loot, more share. They basically got rich. THAT IS, if they survived long enough for, and after that. (Which was rare.)

@aflucero82

3 жыл бұрын

@@mirrormask7946 holy crap this is actually a well thought out explanation. Thanks for this.

cant wait for the new videos!

Love the artwork and voiceover/acting! Great video

I’m excited for the later time when you’ll eventually deal with the Chevauchee. And realise that chivalric knights being trained for “martial warfare” includes them being very cool with “raiding weakly defended villages and falling back from real engagements”.

@davidespiritu4667

3 жыл бұрын

Waste not, want not. It wouldn't do for you to be unable to have your cavaliers sweep the foe from the field because your best riders are lying in bed from infected otherwise non-serious injuries received in what amounted to a backroom brawl that wouldn't have decided anything. Bravado doesn't win wars, after all. Chivalry is in using your chevaliers well, and that includes burning the enemy's food stores and not giving them the satisfaction of fighting back.

@matthiuskoenig3378

3 жыл бұрын

your udnerstanding of chivalry is rather poor. chivalry is what ever a knight thought was honourable, it is not a monolithic ideology. and in somecases did include not fighting/burning civilians. in other cases it invokved following orders or doing what was nessisary for victory. romanisised chivilry comes from stories written to discourage 'barbaric' forms of chilvry that allowed the killing of innocents. also 'martial' warfare is redundant, marital means related to fighting and warfare.

I never played paradox games (too complicated and expensive for me), but boy oh boy, do I appreciate an influx in ed-vids every time they make a new game

@warlock2872

3 жыл бұрын

Understanble for the expensive part. But some paradoxe game are not that hard. Eu4 is really hard, but CK is not that hard.

@guardiadecivil6777

3 жыл бұрын

the new games are pretty easy to understand granted your literate and have basic common sense, also yeah paradox's way of handling DLCs is pretty dogshit so just buy the base game and pirate a version with all the DLCs included

this is the gold standard for historical informative yt videos.

thank you for the tutorial!

He forgot the magic words, " WAGHHHHHHHHH"

@artruisjoew5473

3 жыл бұрын

You don’t summon an ork army for war. The war summons the orks.

@ryanf4106

3 жыл бұрын

OI. YOUZ CALLED FER A SCRAP YA GIT?

@hellacoorinna9995

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanf4106 "Yew fuggin wot, skrub?"

@hellacoorinna9995

2 жыл бұрын

@@artruisjoew5473 Orkz got mentul powahz wot fingz werk koz dey figga dey werk... In da foocher, derez onlee War, innit. Orkz luv a bit've a rumble,yeah? Ergo... Orkz iz wot makin fingz konstant war. Frink Maahk, Fink.

“Bring me my men!” -Karl Franz.

Extremely informative. I had no idea,so much had to be done, and the expense,enormous

That was very informative. Subscribed.

I love the fact that almost every commenter here is a fan of Crusader Kings, Total War, Warhammer or all of the above.

@human6310

2 жыл бұрын

The heretical isekai warhammer or the euphoric dying imperium?

Me at 8PM: One moe video, then an early night. Me at 2AM:

Thanks mate, worked like a charm.

Man this is fascinating. I would love to see more stuff like this.

can this man please do nursery rhymes or bedtime stories? Holy shit that voice is soothing.

expectations: an army reality: a whole city marches

Cool video, i added it to my playlist about medieval and ancient military logistic.