How To Prevent LSPI From Destroying Your Engine!

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Low Speed Pre-Ignition (LSPI) is a type of detonation that can destroy direct injection engines, especially turbocharged DI engines. I this video, Lake Speed Jr explains 3 ways to prevent LSPI from destroying your engine.
Step 1 is using the correct type of oil. API SPI spec motor oils are formulated and tested to prevent LSPI.
Step 2 is keeping your fuel injectors clean. A Poly Ether Amine based fuel additive works the best at cleaning fuel injectors in Direct Injection engines.
Step 3 is letting your engine warm up before driving. LSPI occurs more frequently at low engine temperatures when the Moto oil is thicker. As the engine warms up and the oil thins out, the risk of LSPI goes down considerably.
For more information about LSPI, check out this link from Afton Chemical (one of the world's leading oil and fuel additive suppliers): www.aftonchemical.com/resourc...
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  • @DavesAutoCenterCenterville
    @DavesAutoCenterCenterville19 күн бұрын

    Lake you are such a good man to teach us about important things like this. You’re doing awesome stuff. Thank you 👨‍🔧

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    19 күн бұрын

    I appreciate that!

  • @brandonboulton2776
    @brandonboulton27762 ай бұрын

    The previous owner of my KEI truck didn't care for the engine much. Had carbon deposits cause pre-ignition in my truck. Mangled the connecting rod, shattered and melted the Conrod bearing. Barely limped home, but she did. Lake Speed Jr. has become my go to for information on keeping my new engine, the last one. Close to swapping the new engine in, and I'm going to do it ALL 💯% right.

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @brandonboulton2776

    @brandonboulton2776

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TotalSeal any recommendations for a brand new Suzuki F8A crate engine that's been test run? Shipped from overseas of course. I'm assuming they didn't do a proper load break in. Just a test stand run. I'm leaning towards an hour running on Motul break in, then flush and run liquid moly 10w40 synthetic.

  • @brandonboulton2776

    @brandonboulton2776

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TotalSeal And you are very welcome. I genuinely appreciate you making these videos. I'm finishing up my dream truck and I want to hand it down after I pass. You're a key part to that. Thank you.

  • @themotoroilgeek

    @themotoroilgeek

    2 ай бұрын

    @@brandonboulton2776that’s a great idea. Go with that plan.

  • @arthurdeniziot2523

    @arthurdeniziot2523

    Ай бұрын

    Non direct-injection+turbocharged engines like the one in your key truck arent prone to LSPI. The failure of your engine was probably something else.

  • @theshed8802
    @theshed8802 Жыл бұрын

    Never thought that I'd seen you talking about direct injection motors Lake, but I did enjoy your pearls of wisdom.

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @josepeixoto3384
    @josepeixoto338410 күн бұрын

    Best explanation of all; i was in the wrong, i thought that cold oil would be scraped down , better,by being thicker, but you say otherwise, you say that thin oil,hot oil, is scraped down better?

  • @ACDGarage_Racing
    @ACDGarage_Racing Жыл бұрын

    Awsome video a always lake, the information you provide is always top notch . Keep em coming buddy!!

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @hughobrien4139
    @hughobrien4139 Жыл бұрын

    The way a piece of this advice was explained certainly changed my mind.

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @chalkster4723
    @chalkster4723 Жыл бұрын

    Another fantastic explanation. Great video.

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @Hipsters_N_Hippies
    @Hipsters_N_Hippies Жыл бұрын

    Thank you again, I’m learning a lot through your videos. if this honest content keeps coming, I’m going to have no choice but to back this company. I’m already considering the dry assembly lube I seen on Danny’s video. #1 because I’m going to need it someday. And #2 also because this content does not seem like it’s trying to sell me anything. You you guys do let me know about products and services that you can offer, But you’re giving me the knowledge free and letting it up to me to make the choice. And in my book that honesty goes a whole lot further than you think. I’m not a wealthy man by any measure, and I usually research things for months if not years. But I really do feel like I can have some trust in a company if they’re this open with me. I don’t have a lot of money at all sir, but I know I might need that dry assembly lube someday. I really do believe it to be a good product. And for once (when I’m able to) I would like to purchase something from your company to personally invest a few dollars towards you. Thank you for the transparency openness and honesty.

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment! We really appreciate it. The goal of this channel is education, so we are glad to hear it is being received.

  • @markhatcher4325
    @markhatcher4325 Жыл бұрын

    it's cool to learn something new everyday thank you !

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @johnnystanley4469
    @johnnystanley4469 Жыл бұрын

    Good info, thanks for sharing

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @chrisedgington9633
    @chrisedgington963322 күн бұрын

    I only run Amsoil ss and 93 octane in my Chevy cruze direct injection

  • @JC-gw3yo
    @JC-gw3yo Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for tackling this problem, but the direct injection engines are just a problem no matter how we look at it

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    They certainly have their pros and cons

  • @tracylewisperformance2270
    @tracylewisperformance2270 Жыл бұрын

    There is a patented crankcase evacuation system for street use that combats this as well.

  • @tracylewisperformance2270

    @tracylewisperformance2270

    Жыл бұрын

    I would like to send you a system to test that addresses each of these issues and as an unexpected benefit, sizable fuel economy increase by eliminating most detonation causing KR: kzread.info/dash/bejne/a6qlpLeidKu_c5M.html

  • @shJin-ce8vp
    @shJin-ce8vp Жыл бұрын

    Love it

  • @fordtechlife
    @fordtechlife Жыл бұрын

    Got You brother Appreciate you 🙏 👊🔧🚗💪🇺🇸

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @kx454
    @kx454 Жыл бұрын

    Lake, have you ever thought of producing/developing apex seals for Mazda's rotary (Wankel) engine? There is still a large market for apex seals as the engines are very popular, and are lacking good, consistent, aftermarket seal options. There are a handful of aftermarket seals on the market, but nothing is backed with the resources Total Seal has at their disposal. There is also room for improvement with their corner seal/side seal designs as well.

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the idea. That is not something we considered.

  • @bigrich7026

    @bigrich7026

    Жыл бұрын

    Redline assembly lube for oil soluble areas. Neo synthetic for press fits and seals. From .4hp to 4000hp on my resume. Having the proper tools is as important as the knowledge to use them. Patience to put something together and measure and take apart and put together to measure..over and over. Most don't have the patience..that's where the difference lies. Had to be perfect before it left my hands. Over 1000 motors built with no mechanical problems other than customers bad tunes and trying to out think us (swapping pistons without measuring ...ouch...) lol.

  • @kx454

    @kx454

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TotalSeal No problem, as a rotary guy I am always trying to bring more people into the community. They are some of the most fun engines to wrench on once you figure it all out.

  • @worldsinsider
    @worldsinsiderАй бұрын

    Hello! Thanks for the video! Can you please tell me if the LSPI problem is common for Porsche V8 engines with an alusil cylinder block? My engines are also direct injection, but the manufacturer’s approvals for automotive oil only include SN. As far as I know, LSPI appears more often on modern small engines, right?

  • @richardusjames9780
    @richardusjames9780Ай бұрын

    Based on your explanation, does 0w20 oil will have better lspi protection than 5w30? Due to oil thickness theory? Because it is thinner oil

  • @LA_Commander
    @LA_Commander4 ай бұрын

    It seems like most all oils I've seen at the store are SP rated now, which is good since I have a TDI engine. However, what about my older port fuel injected car, how do I get oils that have the detergent levels we used to have in them?

  • @Funkydood
    @Funkydood23 күн бұрын

    How about Top Tier gasoline, Lake, will that make a difference, too?! Finally, what's your opinion on Berryman's B-12 Chemtool?!?!!!

  • @elroz1675
    @elroz1675 Жыл бұрын

    #1 well, the VW502 that my car needs - and 5W40 oil - do not seem to list SP. Only SN and SN plus. But steps 2 and 3 I can definitely do! Thanks.

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    SN Plus will work for DI engines.

  • @elroz1675

    @elroz1675

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TotalSeal thanks!

  • @danteerskine7678

    @danteerskine7678

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@TotalSealMotul "technosynthese" and 100% Synthetic Ester engine oils are all rated API SP

  • @metzmatu8409

    @metzmatu8409

    3 күн бұрын

    The API SP standard is fully backward compatible with previous API specifications, including API SM, SN and SN Plus. ILSAC GF-6A is suitable for vehicles that previously used GF-5 lubricants, while GF-6B is only compatible with engines built for this specific engine oil category.

  • @ArtGomez-g4f
    @ArtGomez-g4f11 күн бұрын

    You do not want to put the engine under any load right after you start it. For one there us more blow by due to lack of piston expansion and the fuel system is way rich at this moment plus you want to accelerate and this requires more fuel than just idling. There is also a lot less pressure above the piston if all you are asking is for the piston to make it around until the next power stroke.

  • @freeworld848
    @freeworld8489 ай бұрын

    Thank you sir for this amazing video. Bought a vehicle with M274 turbocharged inline 4 engine at over 50k miles. Treated with high PEA cleaner and started using only 93 octane top tier gas. Also just replaced the oil with Mobil 1 FS 0W-40 *SP* version. Planning to keep oil change intervals at every 3k miles. Is there anything else I can do further to prevent LSPI?

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    9 ай бұрын

    Excellent! Those are the right steps to take.

  • @Dusty_Bottoms_
    @Dusty_Bottoms_28 күн бұрын

    How does API SP differ from Dexos rating?

  • @dingpongchi632
    @dingpongchi632 Жыл бұрын

    Hi my MY 15 WRX FA 20 recommended to use SN grade oil for this direct injection engine in the user manual, should I switch to SP grade or stay what ever recommend by Subaru?

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    Switch to the SP spec oil. It is better than the SN for your application.

  • @aciddiver1978
    @aciddiver1978 Жыл бұрын

    How often should i use liqui moly direct injection additive?

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    Every 3,000 miles works well

  • @aciddiver1978
    @aciddiver1978 Жыл бұрын

    My car opel insignia 2018 is recommended dexos1 gen2, api sn. Not sp. Is that wrong?

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    The Dexos 1 Gen 2 spec is actually a higher spec than API SP, so use the Dexos spec oil.

  • @domkraggp9944
    @domkraggp9944 Жыл бұрын

    Or Api sn+

  • @slfrules1
    @slfrules113 күн бұрын

    Can LSPI lead to head gasket failure? The 1.5T GDI in the Accords have been steady failing at 100k at the thin spot between bores. Never known a dealership to put anything but bulk synthetic blend in anything unless the customer is paying a serious upcharge for it.

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    11 күн бұрын

    Yes

  • @slfrules1

    @slfrules1

    10 күн бұрын

    Thanks! I'll let them know the SP barrels we get shipped should probably go on the floor with a hand pump instead of pumped into the bulk when they're taking up too much space... Maybe this time they won't act like i'm pooping in their cheerios

  • @AKoehnFishing-xf4wj
    @AKoehnFishing-xf4wj5 ай бұрын

    Could a Catch Can help with this?

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @bigrich7026
    @bigrich7026 Жыл бұрын

    Really not sure if this is important. We have never used zero gap rings in any, nhra,scca,Rolex,score,superkart and many other..motors..just saying. bore diameter doesn't affect ring tension? Bore diameter is not affected by temperature? Pistons measure the same cold and hot? So the ring touching the cylinder and the piston? Both of different materials at different sizes doesn't change ring tension?

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    This video is not about zero gap rings. It is strictly about direct injection engines from the factory or modified and how to prevent LSPI from occurring in those engines.

  • @bigrich7026

    @bigrich7026

    Жыл бұрын

    Not zero gap. Total seal which is gapless. Sorry I mixed terms that seem to mean the same mathematically. Im used to tuning end gap for my purposes. Think I'm in the wrong section..only injected motors I have ran are turbo diesels Cummins, Duramax and power stroke,.toyota gas motors and blown Donovan's running 90-100% nitromethane. Everything else has been carbed .None of which have ever done what your showing nor have any others in my life..not saying it doesn't happen..again I feel. Im in the wrong section..yes your explaining how it happens..I live in Pacific Northwest now..freezing temps..don't hear of this. Maybe not cold enough Your in Phoenix...? Christopher creek! ❤️

  • @user-fl7uf9hz9v
    @user-fl7uf9hz9v Жыл бұрын

    Is this just occurred in DI? What about indirect injection? Will it suffer from lspi as well?

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    Just DI engines or high compression racing engines.

  • @LujinCustom
    @LujinCustom Жыл бұрын

    If my Toyota engine calls for 5w-30, can I run a thinner oil? 5w-20 or 0w-20 etc?

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    We would not recommend doing that without doing used oil analysis to make sure the thinner oil is not causing increased wear.

  • @truracer20

    @truracer20

    14 күн бұрын

    For 1 your Toyota engine isn't direct injection, for 2 your owners manual will list the oil grade the engine requires. If you have an oil cap that calls for 5w30 then use 5w30, if the cap calls for 0w20 then only use 0w20. THE#1 RULE is only use high quality full synthetic and keep it topped up and changed regularly. Oil isn't only for lubrication, it also carries away HEAT, so do your engine a favor and let it idle for a couple of minutes after any had driving before shutting it off. Toyota engines that receive timely and proper maintenance have no problem going 300K plus miles with the recommended oil. Synthetic blends WILL cause sludge, that sludge WILL plug the top end oiling circuit that oils (and cools) the valve train as well as the timing chain, that sludge WILL FORM inside of the VVT camshaft phasers as well as at the filter screen for the VVT oil control solenoids which feed the VVT camshaft phasers (on VVTi 4 cylinder engines), that sludge WILL FORM in the oil control ring groove of the pistons and WILL cause irreversible cylinder wall damage, that sludge WILL FORM inside of piston oil squirter's leading to premature cylinder wall wear as well as exacerbating the sludge formation in the piston ring grooves ( the piston squirter's not only lubricate the cylinder wall but they also COOL the pistons. Conventional oils and synthetic blends are more prone to coking. Coking happens when oil remains on or in hot components after the engine is shut off, it chars and becomes ashy similar to burnt facts on baking dishes and grills. It doesn't just wash off, it accumulates. Modern engines have more latent heat when they are shut off, they have much closer tolerances, and they are using motor oil as a hydraulic oil to an exponentially higher degree than old school hydraulic lifters.

  • @AashimGupta15
    @AashimGupta159 ай бұрын

    What are some of the fuel additives that work with direct injection engines?

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    9 ай бұрын

    PEA based are the best.

  • @davidbaldwin1591
    @davidbaldwin1591 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I've grenaded a cold engine or two.

  • @lorinkramer5805
    @lorinkramer5805Ай бұрын

    The additive you mentioned, to the gas or oil? An additive name?

  • @TFSGEO

    @TFSGEO

    14 күн бұрын

    To the gas. And i believe Gumout Regane or Techron both have PEAs.

  • @edogsx
    @edogsx Жыл бұрын

    Hi and congratulations for the video! I know that the LSPI has been attributed to the calcium in the engine oil and that the new API SP class has reduced the calcium content by increasing the magnesium. Since both of these additives serve as an alkaline reserve, to reduce the risk of LSPI would it be correct to prefer oils with a low TBN value whit more frequent drainage intervals? Also because the use of "Long Life" oils in GDI engines with prolonged drainage intervals, favors the accumulation of petrol in the oil and therefore the LSPI ...

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment and question. There will be a video on the @SPEEDiagnostix channel regarding TBN and API SP oils soon.

  • @edogsx

    @edogsx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TotalSeal Thanks for the answer, I had analyzed the oil of my Suzuki 1.4 turbo GDI and after 3200km it already contained 4.5% volatile fuel ... I use a MID SAPS (HC) 5w30 oil with a TBN of only 6.5. One thing I didn't understand is how the TAN went from 1.7 of new oil to 1.3 of used oil, maybe you have an explanation?

  • @edogsx

    @edogsx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TotalSeal I have seen that even DRIVEN motor oils generally have quite low TBN values ​​compared to brands like AMSOIL which have very high TBN ...

  • @themotoroilgeek

    @themotoroilgeek

    Жыл бұрын

    @@edogsx that’s a high level of fuel dilution. In regards to the TAN change, that is within the error of the test method, so most likely it did not change.

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@edogsx Yes, the Driven products are typically lower Calcium formulations, which leads to that lower TBN value.

  • @walterbrooks3539
    @walterbrooks35398 ай бұрын

    Do any brands of gasoline already have PEA already included?

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    8 ай бұрын

    Most Top Tier fuels have some PEA. The Shell V Power does have PEA

  • @JHKCF

    @JHKCF

    Ай бұрын

    @@TotalSeal. Is Shell V Power enough or should I still use additional additives? Just one treatment every 3k miles is sufficient? You don’t mention using proper octane, would that also contribute to pre ignition?

  • @themotoroilgeek

    @themotoroilgeek

    Ай бұрын

    @@JHKCF The V Power fuel is great stuff. Using a bottle of PEA based detergent additive once a year won't hurt. It's a little extra insurance.

  • @johnnienitro6812
    @johnnienitro6812 Жыл бұрын

    Sorry to see you dealing with so many brain-dead millionaire's guys. Good Luck! Thanks for this for sure!

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    We are happy to help!

  • @markholroyde9412
    @markholroyde9412 Жыл бұрын

    No shit Sherlock "let the engine warm up" LOL. Info my Dad told me in.......1978

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    You might be surprised how uncommon common sense is these days, especially when it comes to anything mechanical, LOL.

  • @markholroyde9412

    @markholroyde9412

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TotalSeal I know, I have to work "near" dopey snowflakes born after 1990,.... every fkn day, sends me insane LOL

  • @TotalSeal

    @TotalSeal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@markholroyde9412 LOL

  • @avinii

    @avinii

    7 ай бұрын

    … but not idling …

  • @user-wi7xo5ry4t

    @user-wi7xo5ry4t

    4 ай бұрын

    How about driving at a slow speed as soon as you turn on the engine to quickly warm up the engine?

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