Further explanation for some of my placements For Sister Location’s placement, something I forgot to mention was that Michael was described by PJ Heywood as a younger character than William (www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/s/p9DLMEPxGY), meaning that Sister Location cannot happen around FNaF 3 because at that time Michael would be in his 50’s, which would be as old, maybe even older than, William. Also I guess I did kinda treat FuntimesMCI as fact, theoretically Michael *could* be talking about the AI of the Funtimes recognizing him, even though we have no confirmation Mike saw the Funtimes before SL it’s not much of a stretch to assume he did. Furthermore, I guess Follow Me doesn’t really have to happen before SL, it could happen after, I guess. Of course FuntimesMCI cannot be true if that’s the case (MoltenMCI still can be), unless you want to argue William got the remnant of the MCI at another point in time. While possible, Henry’s insanity speech seems to imply Follow Me is when William collected the remnant. But, with all that said, I still stand by my placement for Sister Location in the timeline, although I suppose it being before FNaF 1 is possible. FNaF 4, I guess I should explain why I think the recent dream thing matters. It would just be kinda weird to say Mike is having nightmares with Nightmare Fredbear in them, if it wasn’t supposed to be FNaF 4. It should also be noted that a secret code in the logbook reveals the date 2017 (or 2015, if you believe FNaF 1 is in 1992), which is most likely supposed to be when the logbook takes place. This is also used as evidence for FNaF 3 being in 2015/7

@alexmosch8943

2 ай бұрын

For sister location being before FNaF 4, i have an easier answer. We know that the BV was subjected to the experiments in the FnaF 4 fake testing house chamber thing. Since Michael was scooped in sister location, he was subjected with part of BV's memories of the FNaF 4 fake house and the experimets themselves, prompting him to experience those nightmares. Nightmare Fredbear was on his dreams because he literally killed BV by shoving his head on Fredbear, so he represnts his guilt.

@zetorocks811

2 ай бұрын

@@alexmosch8943nah that doesn’t really matter since the nightmares are brought up by Shadow Freddy, who would know about the experiments

"Then you'll want to play security breach" Very bold assumption there Zetorocks

@ItzLazarus.

2 ай бұрын

Fr

Pretty sure FNaF 4 is in 83. Scott confirmed this like 2015 maybe 2016ish.

@zetorocks811

2 ай бұрын

I’m only talking about the main gameplay

@elliotsturtplus340

Ай бұрын

@@zetorocks811fair enough but it’s still debatable, if fnaf 4 gameplay either takes place as a prequel or a sequel since there isn’t any proof to say it isn’t a prequel or any proof to say it is a prequel. It’s more or less speculation for sister location though I don’t entirely agree since there’s a hint and reference on hand unit with a post it note saying Mike, which weirdly enough was the main characters name in fnaf 1 however, in five nights at Freddy’s 2 it’s not exactly confirmed if Michael was the night guard plus it is heavily theorise that Jeremy Fitzgerald is a separate character that possibly was the bite victim, and we know that Michael can’t be the victim for obvious reasons and there is no Post-it note on hand unit that says Jeremy so I think due to the connection with Mike in both five nights at Freddy’s 1 and five nights at Freddys sister location suggest that Michael goes to the sister location after he went to Freddy Fazbear pizzeria, obviously with some time sorta time skip

@ZVrazy

Ай бұрын

@@elliotsturtplus340cope

@GreenArrowAlt

Ай бұрын

@@elliotsturtplus340 fnaf 4 takes space between 1983 to sisterlocation, as we play as micheal after the bite of 83, but before he gets scooped

@zetorocks811

Ай бұрын

It takes place after 1 too, because it of the FNaF 1 phone call

To basically explain what I think he’s talking about. I think he’s talking about the timeline that takes place within the gameplay and not the mini games itself. Obviously the mini games are going to take place in a different timeline. Of course they are the mini games of the crying kid it obviously take place in 1983 as that a flashback sorta thing simler to the The mini game sections in five nights at Freddy’s 2

The chronological order for the fnaf games are: Fnaf 2 Fnaf 1 Fnaf 4 Fnaf Sl Fnaf 3 Fnaf 6 Pizzeria sim UCN Help wanted Security breach Help wanted 2 Security breach ruin

@arso0628Stuff

2 ай бұрын

You speedran explaining 8 minutes in 5 seconds

@IrtazaFNAFPro

2 ай бұрын

@@arso0628Stuff no I'm not the guy that made this video

@arso0628Stuff

2 ай бұрын

I know, I just worded it wrong

@manhanerdom

Ай бұрын

So wrong 😭

Groovy, we have the same game order belief’s.

So, here is myopinion on the timeline. It might not be 100% correct, but eh. First up is FNaF 4. FNaF 4 technically takes place in Sister Location (due to what we know from Dittophobia). However, this could take place from 1984-1993, so a pretty big gap. Next is FNaF 2. FNaF 2 takes place in 1987 due to the check. Next is Sister Location, taking place around 1987-1991. Because of what you said about Michael talking about in his speech about them thinking he was William. This couldn't work with the Funtimes because the Funtimes wouldn't try to kill Michael if they knew he was William. Next is FNaF 1, taking place around 1993 because of the calculations with the check we get. Next is FNaF 3, taking place in 2023, because of the phantoms of the FNaF 2 animatronics and FNaF 1 Chica. Also cuz the minigames resemble the FNaF 1 map. Then, there is Pizzeria Simulator, taking place in 2023 because of the HRY thing. Also cuz most of the animatronics from before end up here. UCN takes place next, taking place from 2023-???. We know UCN takes place almost instantly after Pizzaria Simulator because of what we know from the book "The Man in Room 1280". William was severly burnt and was taken to a hospital, where he was having intense nightmares of Cassie tormenting him and keeping him alive. More evidence backs this up with OMC saying "Leave the demon to his demons, rest your own soul..." and sometimes when one of the Mediocre Melodies saying something along the lines of "I'll keep you here forever".

Wait but isn't fnaf4 taking place in 1983? or am I dumb?

@MapBotTheElsagateKiller

Ай бұрын

From what we know from the Tales from the Pizzaplex book "Dittophobia", FNaF 4 takes place inside Sister Location somewhere between 1983-1986

@Smiley_404

Ай бұрын

The minigames take place in 1983, and wether it takes place in 1983 or 1993+ depends if you believe Michael is the player or Crying Child is the player, personally i believe Michael is the player because of the logbook and the distorted phone call.

@elioridacow

Ай бұрын

The minigames are 1983 but the nights are during FNAF 1 it's Mike having nightmares when he goes home after his shift in the first game

I am already disappointed in the first game you place down, FNAF 4 is obviously the first one being in 1983, 4 years before FNAF 2.

@That-One-Guy-2067

2 ай бұрын

But overall good video!

@Commanderkoblad

2 ай бұрын

​@That-One-Guy-2067 he is talking about the main gameplay not the minigames

@Sploobicious

Ай бұрын

Yea you can hear the fnaf 1 phone call in fnaf 4 so it would be after

@UpStartTugBoat

Ай бұрын

Plus FNaF 4 is a simulated environment that connects itself to Afton’s Bunker so the 1983 date in the FNaF 4 Minigames could be the passcode that William uses to check on the experiments.

Good job man

An awesome video indeed

I always prefer to play games and watch movies in chronological order! For me I would start with FNAF 2 and then play each nights in FNAF 1 AND FNAF 4 since I believe the theory that Michael is having nightmares after his shifts in FNAF 1 then I play Sister Location next and then FNAF 3 and finally FNAF 6 and then I ignore the other games because I simply headcanon the rest as not canon even though it is

Good video! I dont disagree with the placement of SL, but I kind of disagree with your reasoning? Mike said they didn’t recognize him “at first,” implying they eventually did recognize him, just as William instead of Mike. I think a more broad argument you could make is that the Mike cutscene shows SL leading up to either FNAF3 or FNAF6, meaning it has to be after FNAF1 either way, since it takes place before those games.

Oh and about the odor thing that is actually proven that it was just an excuse Fazbear Entertainment used to fire you, I suspect that they tried to cover up the murders to keep they're place from closing down and on the dates of FNAF 3 I personally think 30 years after FNAF 2 closed down so I'd say 2017 but to be fair I only have little to go by

FNaF 1, FNaF 2, FNaF 3, FNaF 4: The Final Chapter, FNaF World, FNaF 5: Sister Location, FNaF 6: Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria Simulator, FNaF 7: Ultimate Custom Night, FNaF 8: Help Wanted, FNaF: Special Delivery, FNaF 9: Security Breach, FNaF 10: Help Wanted 2. The real chronological order. :P

I think it’s: 1.FNaF 4 3.FNaF 2 4.fnaf 1 5.FNaF SL 6.FNaF 3 7.FNaF 6 8.FNaF HW 9.FNaF SB 10. FNaF HW 2 11.FNaF SB: Ruin

I agree with whole timeline of this video except stitchline because you see the puppets mask in the blob without tears but in stitchline he would be at the bottom of a lake and if tales is in the games it would be start being built in late 2024 so it does not give enough time for stitchline. So I personally believe splitline one the reasons i believe splitline games is because of into the pit game.

I agree with this order 👍

I think that u should play sister location first because they complain about odor in all the games and he wouldn't stink unless he was rotting. and the only reason that he was rotting was because he got scooped so u should play sister location first (in my opinion)

@zetorocks811

Ай бұрын

Expect the animatronics are already stated to smell awful, so him tampering with the animatronics would also make him smell awful

But somethings not right... I don't really believe that fnaf 2 plays before fnaf 1. It doesn't really make any sense. What about the withered animatronics? Of course you could say that the Withereds look different than the animatronics from the first fnaf game. But Springtrap also looked different in the sixth game than in the third game. Phone Guy also says certain things that apply to the first game. (Springtrap isn't really a big deal inthe first or the second game it was just an example!)

@zetorocks811

Ай бұрын

The bite of 87 is referenced in FNaF 1

Bro the bite of 83 happened in the restaurant of fnaf 1 so if we are talking about the stroy fbaf 1 was first

@Vorcupine

Ай бұрын

who told you this misinformation

I've got a really cool FNAF 1 theory I've been pitching for 2 years. Are you willing to listen for a few minutes? It ties up a lot...maybe even Phone Guy

@zetorocks811

Ай бұрын

Sure

@kalkuttadrop6371

Ай бұрын

@@zetorocks811 FNAF 1's location is the ONLY time in the whole series where Guards being murdered at night by animatronics was a regular occurrence. It's easy to forget that as it was the first game in the series, but it's true. FNAF 2's location only ever had 3 guards. The first guy was William and he got out after a Week. Second guy was Jeremy who survived the Nightshift(but probably got his frontal lobe nibbled off on the following Dayshift), and the Third Guy was Fritz who is probably Micheal. There's also some notable revelations here I'll get back to in a minute. FNAF 3, one guard, probably Micheal(though some fringe theorists think it's Henry), they live. FNAF 4, no guards. FNAF SL...this one is actually kind of hard to say, FNAF 6, one guard, Micheal, dies but not because of animatronics. FNAF 2 also establishes via Phone Guy that this is the first time this sort of thing has ever happened. Guard 1's reports were thought of as impossible and it's only during Jeremy's week they start to figure out a theory(the bare endoskeleton thing) and offer up some solutions. This tells us the original location that was open for a bit after the murders either didn't have nightguards(makes sense enough, no big crime, no need) or the Puppet hadn't gotten to them yet. It also tells us Guard fatalities are something they're actively trying to avoid. But in FNAF 1? There's a whole procedure for it. Body removed, property cleaned and bleached, carpets replaced, missing person report within 90 days. A institutional solution for it combined with Phone Guy's "Most people don't last this long" implies MANY guards at this location have come and perished before Micheal arrives in 92/93(doesn't matter, but TLDR 93 has never been proven. Matpat picked it because of the Aurora Chuck E Cheese incident, the tax data said it could be anywhere from 1991-1996, and the Faz Fact that referenced it was cut and might not be canon. But that would have the work week go from Tuesday to Monday which is stupid. Meanwhile in 1992 the November dates line up perfectly with the work week. Minor detail, worth mentioning though). This means that not only have a ton of guards died, but there's a procedure for it, meaning the company is both aware and doesn't care. But why? This isn't hugely profitable 2030s Fazbear entertainment sweeping a few missing kids and staff under the rug, this is 1990s floundering Fazbear. Why waste so much many dealing with dozens of dead guards...unless...gathering dead guards is the goal. Let me ask another question. Who is running the show in the 1990s? Henry is out the timeline from the mid 80s until right before FNAF 6, maybe he's hiding in guilt, heck, I personally buy the theory he was framed(explaining the newspaper clipping saying the suspect was convicted) and spent a couple decades in jail, starting on the FNAF 6 project right after getting out. But even if he was here, Henry would never allow any of this to happen. And I already explained above why the faceless corporate overlord types, or even Miss Afton if you wanna bring that up, wouldn't do this. The profit motive isn't there. The location is a crumbling mess and the cleanup procedure is massive and expensive. That only leaves our boy William Afton, who is alive at this point, was free as recently as 1987, and we have zero evidence he was charged for the DCI/SAVE THEM incident. William Afton was running the FNAF 1 location and funding the cleanups of stuffed, dead, guards. But why? Well, for years the fandom has talked of William doing remnant experiments, soul experiments, maybe even agony experiments. That's how we get the theory the original 5 souls may have ended up in Funtime Freddy and Ballora and eventually in Molten Freddy and The Blob. But would William really have stuck to the same handful of souls, especially as he seemingly didn't want to mess with his daughter? Why not get a larger sample size, recreate the suffering? But kids are too risky to go after, he's done that twice and gotten away by the skin of his teeth. People care about kids, but what about poor working class blokes? Transients? People no one would notice if they suddenly were to vanish. I'm of the belief the FNAF 1 location, Bear themed restaurant and all, is a honey pot. It's a trap. It would certainly explain things like the door design and power supply. Transients, Desperate people, poor workers down on their luck, read a newspaper ad, dead in a few days, stuffed and ready for testing. This theory predates the Movie, but the Movie absolutely backs it up with him encouraging people to take the job. The location may have closed in 92/93, but the FNAF 2 ending and Phone Guy lines suggest it may have opened up far sooner than that, within a year of the FNAF 2 location closing. Dozens of men could have died there before the place finally closed at 'years end' a few weeks after Micheals run. And seemingly it didn't work. Maybe because the suffering wasn't enough. Maybe these men lacked the hope to hold on that the kids did, drained by a terrible life prior. Or maybe it's simply because The Puppet had cottoned on and wasn't going to help bring anyone back. Not anymore.(We know they were at the FNAF 1 location, both from the timeline and the FNAF 2 cutscenes, yet we never see them. Curious). So eventually as the place shut down William decided to take a closer look at the originals. Break them up, study their bits, perhaps reuse them. What made them special? And it would explain why that original remnant kept being re-used, the circumstances were specific and it was so hard to get more. They were no longer needed as unintentional killers. And Sister Location? Which most people place next to FNAF 1 in the timeline(either before or after depends). While it's not as blatant, it's the only other location with HINTS of prior guard fatalities. Plus the two technitions. Curious then this is the one place we know was fully a William operation. That's the main theory. All above. FNAF 1 location is a trap to lure in guards to get stuffed and use for remnant experiments. It didn't work, so William eventually scrapped the animatronics to study directly after it closed. Ok, here's the bit of a stretch part. Phone Guy. The eternal enigma. Leading candidate to be the Purple Guy for over a year. We know he was innocent, and in hindsight it was kind of obvious from the start(The FNAF 2 phonecalls very clearly tell us it's the Dayshift Guard/Former Nightguars, and they aren't the same person as Phone Guy. Heck they trick Phone Guy). But he's definitely sketchy. He helps hide what's going on in the FNAF 2 location, covers up Springsuit fatalities, organizes the saferooms being sealed, and knows very well what's happening to all the guards at the FNAF 1 location. He's not a killer, but he is a diehard company loyalist who has been complicit in and helped cover up numerous crimes. Bit of a toadie. And we also have evidence William has blackmailed and threatened people more than once. He got the Funtime Designs past those execs who knew what they were for. SOMEONE was arrested in the 80s for the MCI and it clearly wasn't him. (Henry is the prime theory as it explains a bunch of other things, but back in the day a popular option was 'the guy in the foxy costume from Foxy Go Go' or 'One of the other bullies from Fnaf 4). This coo-coo banana pants theory is that Phone Guy was essentially strong-armed into being William's igor and right hand man in running the FNAF 1 location, handling the logistics of the new hires and managing the clean ups. Phone Guy is a toadie to start with(as shown above) and William could easily threaten to either frame him for the DCI/Save Them, or just leak all the audio of Phone Guy covering up various deaths on behalf of Fazbear over the years(probably edited to relieve William of any blame). The tapes were in the same room as Springbonnie, he has access to them. That would explain why Phone Guy, while not being THE killer, is clearly involved in so much nasty business. Toadie to William to the end, especially when being credibly threatened. It would also explain why in FNAF 1, despite towing the line and never fully telling you to 'leave and never come back' or something sensible like that, he does TRY to give subtle hints to either help you out or warn out without crossing the line. His previous deeds were very impersonal and detatched, he was the middleman, not the cause. Now he's directly involved like never before, he can't write off the blame in his mind anymore, "only following orders" is a lot harder when you're there in person and leading people to their deaths directly. (BTW, great title for a Phone Guy theory video. Only Following Orders). So he's trying desperately to get some warnings out in-between dismissing them and legal jargon and lying to you about the cause of the malfunction. This would also explain his fate. While Phone Guy had nominally been a guard since the place opened(as indicated by his FNAF 2 dialogue), it was obviously more of a training role, head guard, served only on paper in a lot of ways. He wasn't doing it weekly for all those years. But I'm guessing his disobediance and evidence of trying to sneak out warnings eventually came to Williams attention. Which combined with the fact all the Stuffed Guards were not working out in the experiments and William was probably getting angry...he sent Phone Guy to do things in person, and ensured he'd never come back. Heck if you really want to get crazy you could say Phone Guy's death is what finally prompted the place to close 'by years end'(so right before the X-Mas holidays in either December 92 or 93), as without him William couldn't manage the logistics anymore, thus he resorted to utterly destroying the originals for further testing until he eventually got himself into a position to be killed(whenever that was, probably 1994ish).

@kalkuttadrop6371

Ай бұрын

@@zetorocks811 so...

@zetorocks811

Ай бұрын

@@kalkuttadrop6371 pretty good theory

@kalkuttadrop6371

Ай бұрын

@@zetorocks811 Ok, feel free to use it then. I'm tossing it out there blah blah I relinquish claims blah blah commons whatever. Use it if you want, just don't go word for word(MOSTLY because mine is badly out of order due to being updated with new info a lot)