Magnificent. The earlier beta-rules were already promising, and this just seems even better. I am so ready to be invested, especially after a certain other companies "Epic" game absolutely biffed it, with everything from fiddly, unnecessarily complex models, to horrible stock issues. Once again, Mantic steps in to heal my hobby sanity!

I want a fantasy style game at this scale.

@hypnonavy

5 ай бұрын

Kings of Warmaster? I'm down.

@DasBilligeAlien

5 ай бұрын

You can just play kings of war at this scale. Miniatures there are plenty.

@mordoten

5 ай бұрын

Warmaster Revolution is alive and thriving! :-)

@anab0lic

5 ай бұрын

@@mordoten yeah, I've been meaning to take a look at that.

@AndreasRugtvedNeumann

5 ай бұрын

There are plenty of them. Current Kings of War rules works really well at a smaller scale games with some basic unit conversions. Just search for Kings of War 10mm or Kings of War 15mm to find these conversions and other articles. There is also YT content on this topic, and even a FB group called Kings of War - Small Scale.

This is a huge step up from your previous video tutorials! Congrats on getting the audio and energy of the presenters fixed. The lighting is also a lot better. So far things seem clear enough. I'm interested in the game but am still not sure I can fit it, that said, I'll probably still get it as a wonderful little painting project. The minis look great so far.

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind feedback.

@Nardio

5 ай бұрын

Please do a tutorial playthrough for the new Kings of War Chill of Twilight Ambush Starter set. While we plan on playing it ourselves on our channel, it would be great to have an official how to for newbs like us. @@manticgames

@ERBarratt

5 ай бұрын

That's all Andy B!

@Clewerly

5 ай бұрын

Yeah much improved, just needs higher res cameras now! Screen casting the video to my TV gets grainy with saturated colours. But excellent progress which has been called upon for a long time!

@Nardio

5 ай бұрын

Agree about the camera and lighting. But at least it's watchable thanks to the even audio and presenters being enthusiastic. It shows they are trying and that makes me want to invest in what they are selling. I really hope they go back and redo and update some of the previous intro and tutorial videos to better promote what they are selling. Next the website needs a lot of love. It blows my mind that there aren't photos of the minis from different angles or a 360 view of the minis. @@Clewerly

Massive improvement to previous “How to plays”. I wasn’t even so tempted by the game, as this scale isn’t really my usual thing, but the smoothness of gameplay has got me reconsidering that. Super excited to see more content for the game.

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the very kind feedback and glad it’s piqued your interest.

Mantic to me is almost like a team I support! In the face of insurmountable odds, in the face of monoplising tyrants, they continue to produce. Mantic! Mantic!

I really like the production quality of this. I’m undecided on the game and I think I want to see more of the up close model images when the kickstarter drops. I know my friends are already in. I have been enjoying Deadzone though and excited for the Matsudon coming this summer

Im very much looking forward to this one. This is like waiting for Christmas morning on steroids!!

If the goal of placing order tokens at the same time and facedown is to add mystery and trying to “read” the opponent why not make it more meaningful? Would it not be better to not actually reveal the order until the unit actually activates? I think this would add a lot of tension and mind games. It would also serve the dual purpose of easily keeping track of which units have activated.

@mattjgilbert

5 ай бұрын

This is in the rules as an optional game mode called "Fog of War" :)

@pancakeonions

5 ай бұрын

I had initially thought that's how it was going to work - you reveal your order token when you choose which unit you'll activate. But I'd be curious to learn why the design team opted for this (reveal everything at once) too. Either way, this game looks very interesting!

Great vdo. Looking forward to seeing the Veermyn. 10mm is a great compromise between mass effect and good detail on sculpts so I am happy you chose that scale.

It really is a very clean, simple to pick up, and slick ruleset. You guys ably demonstrated this in the video. Good job!

Bravo, Mantic. This is a GREAT play through video - battle reports should model themselves after this one! I watch these batreps to get a sense of how to play the game, and how the game feels. You guys did an EXCELLENT job of doing that in this video. more batreps of this style, please!

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Thank you and glad you enjoyed it 👍🏼

This looks great, the rule design is elegant and the way the tokens are used is a brilliant way to keep track of the games progression.

Can’t wait for forge fathers and veer-myn unlock!

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Forge Fathers are part of the initial 4 factions so they’re available from day one!

This video absolutely sold me on the game. I am pretty darn stoked now!

Video set up is a huge improvement over previous videos, really taking it to the next level.🙂

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Thank you.

Much improved! Great work andy! I’d love to see you bring in some KZread gamers to play more of mantic games on the channel with this new level of quality focus👍

Epic, best scale ever for a proper battle. Look forward to playing this :)

My getting-older fingers would love chunkier orders tokens, so that they're easier to pick up on the table. Even if they are kickstarter add-ons

Good video to watch guys, impressed by the step up in quality and the positive impact having Andy join the team. Keep up the good work 👍

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Thank you - much appreciated.

Looks really cool, can't wait to see the Kickstarter! It'll be very interesting to see what sort of things might exist at a scale beyond Firefight :)

I'd like to see the vehicles on bases. With the infantry bases being so large and thick, it looks weird having the vehicles resting on the table.

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

There’s no reason why you couldn’t do that (in terms of how the game plays). We’ve had feedback both for and against so I guess at least everyone has a preference and they can then do it how suits them.

@Andy2D6

5 ай бұрын

@manticgames That is good. If there isn't any rules advantage or disadvantage to basing them.

@thedourkin

5 ай бұрын

+1 for vehicle bases. Having the jetbikes on bases but not the hover tanks is also an odd inconsistency. The hover tanks also have a higher height value than the infantry but are actually lower in profile when placed directly on the table.

@michaciemniewski9791

5 ай бұрын

I hope to base mine for sure. I think this is something we should ask during KS. Extra bases to base vehicles.

@ScottWilliams-cv3fv

5 ай бұрын

Thought the exact same buddy, my inner OCD demon was getting a cob on 😂 game looks slick though

Lovely game, nice and quick play! Well done!

Great job! The game looks incredibly fun. I will definitely be filming some videos of this once I can get my hands on it!

well I'm sold now, gonna have to back it

Looks great - looking forward to the campaign & hoping for an STL pledge 🤞since that was one of the considerations in the survey. That’s mostly so I can get the minis in hand sooner than waiting for physical miniatures

@telleryoutube4458

5 ай бұрын

agreed STL life

Love the ruleset, the way tokens are used makes things really clear and is elegantly done. Backing the KS, hope we make that Veer-myn stretch goal as thats my pick for an army!

I'm very excited and looking forward to it!

Absolutely loved this! Great video. Do you get any terrain in the box?

It's nice to see Andy in his new role!

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Hey thank you!

I love anything that fits in a small case well done 👏 chaps

This looks great! Can't wait for Valentine's Day!

Think this will be a great game to introduce my young son to tabletop wargaming.

Much better quality! Needs some close up shots and perhaps an overhead view of the entire table? Some dedicated camera for a dice tray too. But very good work Andy!

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Working with what I've got at the moment. There was a camera view of the entire table but it was cropped in a lot of times just as the minis in this are so small its hard to see.

@pancakeonions

5 ай бұрын

haha, @@manticgames Keep pusing for more cameras, better quality, etc. This professional quality stuff really does make a big difference! This is great, and VERY nice to see. Well done.

Just backed it! Can't wait.

Looks very promising! My friend and I debated the aparent lack of a morale system (would've been cool if you could break a dug-in unit just by shelling it for a few rounds), but the system overall looks really smooth. Can we look forward to a Kings of War demo batrep produced to this standard? Something tells me right now is a promising time for that. ;)

Love this! Great job!

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

Looks fab. Would be great to see multiple weapon profiles, optional wargear, campaign rules etc as the game develops.

I enjoyed the dave 5+ Even if you correct the typo later, I’m keeping that!

I have started to adore games at this scale so am very very tempted...

And just like that I guess I'm playing a new game.

Nice looking. I think keeping the Orders hidden until activation would help make a tense game.

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

This is an optional way to play we’ve included on the rules called “Fog of War”

As always with Mantic's games: really accessible...great game!

Looks awesome!

This will be epic!

Looking forward to the Kickstarter even if my wallet isn't!

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

There’ll be pledge levels for all wallet sizes!

@Nardio

5 ай бұрын

Yep, most of my spare cash has been spent of Valentine's stuff, so the timing is painful.

Cant wait for this!

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

It's getting so close I can taste it now! ;)

It would have been nice to not need separate to-hit and damage rolls, I get that it's because of the way the unit stats work but it seems a bit dated these days. Despite that I'm pleased with what I see, Mantic are always a step ahead of their Nottingham neighbours in terms of common sense game mechanics. I also really like the dynamic objective idea, that's a nice touch.

@hasbean2000

5 ай бұрын

I can live with that, I'm not clear why we also need saves?

@ryano1808

5 ай бұрын

Because only having one roll would either have to solely put the outcome on the attackers offensive ability, or the defenders defensive ability. It's necessity to consider both to have interesting unit differences.

@kudosbudo

5 ай бұрын

@@ryano1808 Battletech does that without having the player make a defensive roll. Defence is done with a combination of position, terrain, distance and mechs movement speed so the taget number is variable. The reason i bring up battletech Alphastrike is because its basically the same scale as this.

Okay, good. I needed someone to take my money since Games Workshop can't anymore (what with me not making six figures). Very good, since you don't actively hate your customers.

This looks great! I hope there is going to more diversity than FF with super sized machines?

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Make sure you check out the Kickstarter when it goes live to see just how much choice and variation there is 👍🏼

Thank you so much 🔥🔥🔥

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

You're very welcome!

Myself and a number of those in my gaming group are really looking forward to Epic Warpath. Admittedly the four factions being offered at launch aren't really my cup of tea but I can still see myself picking up a basic force to sink my teeth into the game.

Looks fun!

Men looking at sheets. I love it already!

Is there any chance of seeing the data sheets for the units involved in this video?

Great video. Is it just me or are the vehicles on the same size.especially compared to the jet bikes and infantry

Very nice!

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Blast seems very strong, otherwise looks great! I wonder though the commanders in warpath are quite combat oriented but here they seemed to hide a lot.

Glad to see that the competition is catching up. GW has enjoyed a monopoly for way to long

Fingers crossed we'll see a Veer-myn stretch goal for the kickstarter.

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Oh it'll be there alright! We just need some amazing folks to help us unlock it!

@Nardio

5 ай бұрын

Agree!

Are the infantry and tanks the same scale?

Looks good

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Hey guys we missed! Get another!

Be nice if you have multiple starters, 1 plague Vs enforcers, 2 veermyn Vs dwarves etc as an option.

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Wait until you see what we have planned - it will super easy to customise exactly what you want 👍🏼

Incooooming !!!

Please Mantic Games, make Kings of War at the same epic scale. Epic Warpath is definitely a success, so make it also for your fantasy flagship, I bet it will be also a success.

In hurry to play Warpath!

42:00 "effectively pinned" is probably a poor choice of words? Held in place??

@6:03 Infection effect: "The unit has the *Dave* (5+) until the end of the round." Tell me more about The Dave. Lol. ;-)

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Our “S” key has been infected … Dave, however, is fine 😉. Good spot!

@danroberts007

5 ай бұрын

Also: I wonder what they keep in the "A4" bunker? 🤔

@mattjgilbert

5 ай бұрын

It should also be 6+ :)

Needs more rats ;D

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Rats incoming … if enough people pledge!

I miss large pics of the miniatures

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

We’ll be showing you more close up shots as we get nearer to launch

You folks gonna be selling STL's for this game correct?

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Come and check out our Kickstarter on Valentine’s Day and you’ll be able to see what physical product and STL options we have.

Shame that the kickstarter has closed.

AAAAAAANDY!

Game seems to lack sci-fi flavour. Apart from a couple of commands and some stat differences “The Plague” are not dissimilar to the other side. The advancing infantry and armoured vehicles could represent a generic 20th century conflict.

Alright chaps, will the new halo employ these mechanics or is it more skimish? Im a confirmed Deadzone player but loving warpath epic, and might be dipping in. Its a bonkers Mantic world this year, my wallets going to get a bit bruised😂

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

As Ronnie mentioned in our video recently its a "normal sized, Skirmish Sci Fi game" ... that's all we can say right now - stay tuned!

Special dice...instant pass.

Looks commendably efficient, but also pretty sterile and lacking in the way of excitement and immersion. 3 strategic abilities per faction isn't enough to carry a game in this regard. Resolving indirect fire was the only part that seemed tactilely satisfying, but also a lot of work for not a lot of damage. Needs more spice!

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

We're sure that with the other factions, their strategic abilities plus the 2 universal abilities there's enough to keep the vast majority of folks interested without becoming overly burdened in complexity. We want to make it as accessible as possible and then we can layer on extra stuff later as required.

@hasbean2000

5 ай бұрын

I can't agree with this. The alternative is something like Dystopian Wars which is a good game ( I have a couple of fleets ) but can also be migraine inducing with the number of special rules and interactions. People have been playing historical wargames for years with very few "special rules" for "factions" and there is no reason that such games cannot be hugely tactical and exciting.

@timunderbakke8756

5 ай бұрын

May I recommend you look at the other UK miniature company if you want overly complex faction rules. And I’m not saying that to throw shade. It’s just a difference in design philosophy.

@captainferrite

5 ай бұрын

@@timunderbakke8756 I didn't say I want complex faction rules, I said the game lacks excitement and immersion outside the faction rules. I'm not currently seeing anything in the way of satisfying payoffs like a Surged flank charge is in KoW, nor the tension of a hero lying in the mud in Vanguard hoping they get to activate and stand up before someone steps on their neck. (and these games are themselves very tame in comparison to the wider market)

@hasbean2000

5 ай бұрын

@@captainferrite personally I think you need to be invested on the outcome a bit more than is possible to do in a see it played video in order to see how narrative develops fromm the rules? But I can understand if it seems a bit dry, SF wargames can often look that way in comparison to fantasy and although this isn't hard SF it's not fantasy dressed as SF either so likely to appeal to a slightly different audience.

Gameplay looks abit dull but the stream and audio is good setup . dont think its a game for me looks to slow and low impact, guess il wait for halo!

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Not every game is for every person - we get that. Thanks for the feedback on the video 👍🏼

WTF! What are those tanks??

Looking really good, solid foundation. But where is the shock and awe. What makes this game really "pop" and stand out. Needs something something to really make gamers want to play.

@manticgames

5 ай бұрын

Wait until you see what’s going to be available in the Kickstarter and just how much you get if you pledge - that will really be the icing on the cake!

Audio is great, but what's with the awful video quality!?! Even at 1080p it's shocking =\

If this game had been released 5 years ago it would have been tolerable, if a little derivative. Now it is just derivative.