How to Play & Beat Armor King | 8 Min Guide
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0:00 A Large Man
2:45 Pressuring with Mids/Throws
4:00 Master of Grappling
5:29 Trickster
6:44 Punishment
7:24 How to Beat Armor King
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META is temporary, STYLE is eternal!
@rockybalboa1929
3 жыл бұрын
Thats is an epic quotes man.
@nameputhpong9041
3 жыл бұрын
@@rockybalboa1929 indeed
@Fhrag161
3 жыл бұрын
Not in the meta just means I gotta get bettah
@flyingfrogofdeath9616
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome quote ahahah
@SonataNoKami
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks fam
Considering the nature of the game, this is the BEST T7 video series every created. Bandai Namco (all fighting game creators for that matter) need to hire content creators such as yourself to either consult or contribute directly into the development of future fighting game, this stuff needs to be available as part of the game.
@ministerquik
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Kenlac92
Жыл бұрын
a simple community highlight on the main menu would do wonders for people learning the game, finding guides and content, becoming better players, etc.
@GrogedUp
10 ай бұрын
Imagine a MAIN MAN SWE section Has all the character guides
I just like how Armor king hands are designed. One is clearly ready to punch and another is like how a grappler should work It really shows it's playstyle to players
@yanirahowell8011
2 жыл бұрын
Those bootiful hands ✋
He is Stone Cold, Goldberg, Shawn Michaels and a sprinkle of Rey Mysterio. Basically my favorite wrestlers combined.
@knightfall7983
3 жыл бұрын
He looks like tekken’s version of undertaker With all of these wrestlers moves
@yves1531
3 жыл бұрын
And undertaker y algun otro
@jetblaksuit
3 жыл бұрын
I see Armor King as his own wrestler just using some of the moves of the great ones
@Ascendify5
3 жыл бұрын
U forgot undertaker😁
@yves1531
3 жыл бұрын
@@Ascendify5 or kane xd
Guide on how to play and beat AK. How to play: as soon as they start to break your throws get good at the game. How to beat: learn to breaks throws and then sidestep right and duck.
@legend0945
3 жыл бұрын
You should teach in universities.
@AzimusVonQuaq
3 жыл бұрын
@@legend0945 I guess I should 🤣
@zachary3879
3 жыл бұрын
Thing is, his throw mixup is good since it's ambiguous. I think u have to guess if the person is applying the mixup he showed early one on. His main weekness is tracking. If he had a rly good tracking move, his main weekness would be his ws punishment. I think overall, hard grinding with armor king can cover most of his weaknesses. Rage drive is kinda meh though
@skorpeion1509
3 жыл бұрын
"get good" in a game full of overpowered, gimmicky bullshit playing a character that has literally no above average tools outside his throws.
@chrisedwards3640
3 жыл бұрын
@@skorpeion1509 fundamentals
It seems like every one is forgetting about AK's punch reversal, which is actually really good and will help alot vs. punch heavy characters - especially in close combat.
@zeedan1412
3 жыл бұрын
He also has crouch throws which can be used when the opponent sidesteps and ducks then the throws are useful
@Adam7180
2 жыл бұрын
The parry won't work with Hwoarang, works pretty well with Steve.
@SonataNoKami
2 жыл бұрын
@@Adam7180 b1
This video series is extremely helpful, please keep it going!
My main is AK. The other day i played a salty guy that message me and said that i only beat him because AK is a paid to win dlc character 😂
@Shock420
3 жыл бұрын
Bro what pack is that guy smoking ak is probably the most balanced dlc character
@miltakis12
3 жыл бұрын
would like to play with 30 armor kings in a row than one time with leroy or fahk or zafina or julia.
@FrankencteynGamingTV
2 жыл бұрын
Hell nah, Bro. I'm a Bryan main & I'd say AK is a DLC character, but he's definitely NOT broken. If he wanna talk about suck ass DLC characters, I'd say Noctis and Leroy.
Justin Iglesias has one the best Armor kings I've ever seen and man,his utilisation of AK's stone cold stuner is just pure art .
@qwertyonefuck
3 жыл бұрын
Versus lil majin
Worth mentioning that chain throws have build in mix-up. Its ont only 2 break, its actually 1 break as well depends on Armor Kings input (cd 1+4 or 2+3) so mix-up dangerous than you think.
@beroberoberoberobero852
3 жыл бұрын
also worth mentioning sometimes they will use another move before that to buffer the input of 1 or 2, if you start recognizing this situation you can break the throw by recognizing the last limb he used i'm awful at throwbreaks if it wasn't for that i'd be eating them all, lol
@theodorematsouliadis5124
3 жыл бұрын
@@beroberoberoberobero852 This really isn't mentioned enough,thank you for shining some light on this.
@justaotter2085
3 жыл бұрын
@@beroberoberoberobero852 armor king cd mixup and kings cobra clutch mixups are harder to see imo
Superb guides and really a new take on it all. Great stuff TMM.
Wavedash lookin hella crisp
Always finding myself back at this video! Love it.
These 8 minute guides are really good.
There is a reason why alot of Kazuya mains have AK seconds and vice versa. The game plan for both of them is to wait for your opponent to miss and then take them apart piece by piece.
@Metro605
3 жыл бұрын
Kaz doesnt need to wiff punish when he can do 50/50 mix up all day triggered from simple knockdown
@handianus
3 жыл бұрын
They are somewhat similar but IME Armor King players are way more defensive. Not relying on big 50/50's anywhere as much. Because AK has better pokes but not the crazy big moves that Kazuya has. Kazuya's oki is also way more annoying and unga-bunga (not saying it's easy to do all the really good moves kaz has, but they have great properties for what they are). Kazuya is not a poking character (even if kazuya players use EWGF like it was a poke) in comparison. Meanwhile armor king has great basic pokes, it's just he has to be more careful than a lot of other poking-oriented characters in continuously throwing them out.
@NLookabill94
Жыл бұрын
I'm a Jin player and I have armor king as a secondary. The character is just too cool
Main man your timing is impeccable I literally picked up AK yesterday!
@thelegion4799
3 жыл бұрын
Bad idea brother, at high ranks if you want to win with ak you have to camp and use df1 and d4 only... pretty sad (i use him too but now i want to move to other character)
@REPHLEX94
3 жыл бұрын
@@thelegion4799 what rank are you with AK?
@thelegion4799
3 жыл бұрын
@@REPHLEX94 I stopped doing rankend from january because i do not want to tryhard. I'm purple rank.
@REPHLEX94
3 жыл бұрын
@@thelegion4799 i see Me too
As an Armor King main, thank you!
I'm here for the weaknesses
@ShayzenDG
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly I’m so tired of seeing him tbh
@wildhynagames7911
Жыл бұрын
Dlc power lol... No one will ever admit armor king is legit broken
@sirm.a.r.s4640
Жыл бұрын
@@wildhynagames7911 Explain. I'm literally curious as I deal with Kunis with absurd movement or Marduk with just frame breaks on grabs
@kingkocoa4467
3 ай бұрын
@sirm.a.r.s4640 he’s not, these guys are just ass
Amazing tutorials as always
0:46 OH ARMOR KING’S GOT THE STUNNER!
@thelegion4799
3 жыл бұрын
*WOW*
Nothing boils my blood in Tekken quite so much as a "just guess" throw mix-up.
Thanks mate - i LOVE Armor King
cant wait to see you playing ak with new buffs!
Armour king is so fucking cool man
@foreveruseless1292
3 жыл бұрын
He is indeed
@ezzreacts9791
3 жыл бұрын
yes he is
@Jabermania
3 жыл бұрын
He's learning from you Stone Cold
There should be an own 8 minute "How to play against Armor King Guide" video. Just a few seconds is not enough.
Thanks I kept getting hit with shining wizard cause I thought it was a 2 break for some reason
Yo main man love your videos, can u please make the 8 min guide for Hwoarang in the future? I'd like to learn him in a short way thank you.
Im a noob at tekken just started playing. But your videos make sense. Trying to improve
In my eyes, the dark upper is just an Armor King Electric
@maxmercurythemm827
3 жыл бұрын
Frame-wise though, it's just regular WGF so don't go thinking it's too safe.
@Oli-ts5gp
3 жыл бұрын
@@maxmercurythemm827 I just mean it looks like one yk
@maxmercurythemm827
3 жыл бұрын
@@Oli-ts5gp that's true (and kinda lame) though; weird that there was a unique animation, but now it's locked behind ki charge :/
TMM PLEASE GIVE ME SOME 8 MINUTE LEE CHAOLAN THE SWAG KING GUIDE IN MY LIFE
The stunner was literally the only reason why I picked up AK,
Hey mainman, don't know if you looks at the comments on youtube but would you recommend king or armor king for a begginner?
Armor king: as a -2 low on counter hit Noctis : first time?
You forgot about the power of his back 1. It’s a high that is combo starter on counter-hit. I think it’s like 10 or 11 frames.
Please do one of these from King, green rank Kings are the actual BANE OF MY EXISTENCE
@ministerquik
3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@chrisedwards3640
3 жыл бұрын
Seriously there are SO many
@JTxTX
2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisedwards3640 lol a lot
@sirm.a.r.s4640
Жыл бұрын
Honestly at that level, just pace and space. Keep distance and let them hang themselves, they do running grabs be ready with a 1+2 break. Low parry the spam. King is very well rounded, low levels he can be a great scrub killer, high level he can have crazy setups and solid pokes and of course, absurd mixups due to grabs
Kunimitsu next 🤗
Thank you TMM For this content!
Cant describe how much I love the 8min series
TMM .. How do you go about choosing which character to showcase
Do you have any tips to go against Steve or Josie? I struggle with those characters
@JTxTX
2 жыл бұрын
Ya take your time and you take away one of their mix up they keep doing. If you do that they'll have change up to something you'll have a better chance against.
@sirm.a.r.s4640
Жыл бұрын
Be defensive and take your time. They both are counter hit hunters with solid pokes. Keep distance don't press.
Goddamn I hope to get my wavedash as you someday tmm
@boudou04
3 жыл бұрын
Mix box helps a bit.
@OtterSC2
3 жыл бұрын
Mixbox makes it so easy and I highly recommend it over a stick, I was a v early adopter and have never looked back
@foreveruseless1292
3 жыл бұрын
@@OtterSC2 yeah I play on pad, maybe I'll try mix box in the future someday
@OtterSC2
3 жыл бұрын
@@foreveruseless1292 if you're on PC you can just play on a mechanical keyboard for the same experience, only real reason for a mixbox is to play at tournaments and the arcade buttons are satisfying
i love king hes been my main since tekken 3 was new but i cant get into armor king there styles are close but its like he feels off any explaination im curious
Need the geese guide🙏
Main man you have to play tekken unlimited tag tournament 2 on arcade that games is wayyyy balanced from the original tag 2
MMSWE we do know you love the Mishima’s and higher tier characters. But please show some love to the “lower tier” characters.
Please do Lee next
Do a Negan guide
Marduk next????👀👀
Didn't know Tekken embraced the idea of meaty attacks.
People say he's mid tier, I really can't agree. As a Kazumi main, I find him really hard. That long range clothesline is od
@Adam7180
2 жыл бұрын
If you have the execution, you can make him work.
"SSR like mad " - Nobi
Yes love armor king. I'm so damn good with him lol
Really helpful. But not many weaknesses he has
5:47 Would someone tell me this input?
Lei Wulong next plsss...
I play gigas I can’t out poke him, or side step his moves consistently, what do I do?
@Adam7180
2 жыл бұрын
Try to keep Armor King out. His pokes is much stronger than Gigas's, and try to not whiff anything, Armor King can't capitalize on Gigas if you don't whiff anything.
what about a king video of this series?
What does his breath actually do?
I wanna play Kazuya but he's too hard so I might settle with AK for now lol
Almost guilty gear strive beta. Pls cover it
im just waiting for the steve video
What's the music
Steve Fox next?
Geese or Dj please!
I hope there will be steve 8 min
Hwoarang up next
breath seems way to difficult to utilize to be a staple for him.. idk
I will reduce it to one sentece: Just duck lol 4Head This should do the job.
Kuma please!
Geese
1:09 by crouch cancelling?
@Mike-ds2ev
3 жыл бұрын
You don't have to crouch cancel dark upper, but you do get more damage that way. It's a difference of 7 damage compared to hopkick
@soulist8224
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-ds2ev that’s only for ak right? Mishimas has to crouch cancel if they want to do ewgf after crouching?
@Mike-ds2ev
3 жыл бұрын
@@soulist8224 ak has to crouch cancel to do a dark upper from crouch aswell, but since he has a hopkick, you can do that instead for ease of use
@josemota9188
3 жыл бұрын
@@soulist8224 i mean, they need do crouchcancel if they want to ewgf but is not recomended since its very hard to do and they can just ws2. Heihachi pre s3 needed do cc ewgf after a high whiff or a blocked sweep if he wanted to lauch. Tmm showed cc dark upper to show its possible and how whiff punishment works with ak (and to show off a bit cause masku), in this situation hopkick or ws1 work fine. But is important to note that dark upper gives a better combo than the previous two (80 damage with no walls if you can do the bigboy cd1 combo)
@Mike-ds2ev
3 жыл бұрын
@@josemota9188 if you include burning knuckle combos, he can get 92 from dark upper and 83 from hopkick garunteed
i have 250 matches and never seen a armor king on ranked
4:14 Actually, GS and HD don’t have the same animation. Same for King’s GS and MB. They look similar but you can learn to break and distinguish them on reaction.
@bridyboo3967
3 жыл бұрын
?? they all use both arms
@BoONeo
3 жыл бұрын
The only slightly different looking is GS where he shoves his arms abit further
@Alpdude
3 жыл бұрын
Shining wizard uses the same animation as GS, right? GS animation is where he crosses his arms, also his elbows have a different position.
@senor6909
3 жыл бұрын
@@Alpdude If you set the computer to do GS or iSW in practice mode you won’t see a difference. However, humans don’t work like that. SW and GS are both telegraphed unless you use macros. Let me explain what I mean: If you come from a running stance, SW will come out smoothly but with GS you will stop for a brief moment before executing the throw. Or if you do the throws after a 1,2 jab string for example, GS will come out immediately while with iSW you will come a few steps forward. It’s not easy to distinguish between these 2 throws but they are not a true mixup if you practiced breaking them properly. But honestly you won’t find a lot of players who know what I just explained above.
@beroberoberoberobero852
3 жыл бұрын
@@senor6909 thanks for the explanation, that's how pro players break it consistently then, you can recognize which one is before the arms are out
The character I hate fighting against the most
@ssjgodgoku924
3 жыл бұрын
Even more than Marduk, Miguel, Claudio and Noctis?
@ezzreacts9791
3 жыл бұрын
Me an Armor King main: haha...HAHAHAHA!!!!
@straightlead8
3 жыл бұрын
@@ssjgodgoku924 I forgot about Marduk. Cladio... Meh. Noctis... meh
@beemoviejazz317
3 жыл бұрын
@@ssjgodgoku924 mig?
@crazy911wman
3 жыл бұрын
Learn fundimentals budy. Ak is one of the most honest characters in tekken
Where do we step him? Right?
@tompoole2521
3 жыл бұрын
Generally yes, sidestep right
@Ryujin7
3 жыл бұрын
@@tompoole2521 thanks
I like armor king and can I play you one day MainmanSwe but the thing is I don't have Tekken 7 or season 4 sorry but I have a pretty good heihachi in Tekken 5
ARMOR KING COOLEST IN THE GAME
How do you punish his drop kick?
@tompoole2521
2 жыл бұрын
Db4? Tricky as some characters (like AK) can punish it while others can't depending on their pick up and okizeme options. If you can, go for okizeme as it will give you momentum as he has to get up into your offence
Dark upper can deal even more damage if you do cd1 1 cd1 db24 into fff2+4
4:36 This is one of the stuffs I personally think should be changed in the upcoming games.
Umm now i’m confused, if in the beginning of the video you said that he’s a character that utilize spacing to poke his opponent from far away, well when are we going to use those wavedash mix-ups?
@blazerker1640
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know either but if I have to guess, you do it after you get decent oki?
@bridyboo3967
3 жыл бұрын
i think in general you can apply mix ups when it's "your turn". Like guy below said, after a knockdown, after 2,1 (gives +7), after block punishing, or if he "respects" you (you wavedash empty and he does nothing). Or when you need to do a comeback, when you're low on health and you have to take risks to win, that's also a good (albeit predictable) time to use mixups.
@BoONeo
3 жыл бұрын
Just cause a character is good at one thing does not mean u only do that thing the whole time u still gotta mix things up
@davidparry5310
3 жыл бұрын
Breaking open turtles.
@son600
3 жыл бұрын
You poke and whiff punish your opponents until they start hesitating. Wavedash block > they whiff > whiff punish. When they start being scared to press you can utilize your wd mixup. But in general his wd is riskier than normal mishimas because you have to get really close to your opponent compared to a hellsweep.
Can you do feng or nina please :)
@ChristsKeyblade
3 жыл бұрын
Has he even played feng before?
@United-tr6pv
3 жыл бұрын
@@ChristsKeyblade yeah he had a 30+ streak
@ChristsKeyblade
3 жыл бұрын
@@United-tr6pv then I'm down for a feng guide for sure
This video backs up my opinion on AK. He may not be broken, good or anything like that, but his whole kit just works too well imo. Being a spacing oriented grappler with insane whiff punishment? Not the simplest shit to face as a DLC character ^^
@exodia275
3 жыл бұрын
How will u say his kit works "too" well when he isnt even top 10? He has glaring weaknesses
@toto_feather8732
3 жыл бұрын
I'm saying, that this kit works too well in itself for *me* to call him a bad/weak character, regardless of his frames etc. Also, him being a DLC character, makes it a nuissance to lab him for quite some people ^^
@exodia275
3 жыл бұрын
@@toto_feather8732 I didnt know frames didnt matter to form a good or bad kit. That's an outworldly new criteria to rate things. However I do agree that labbing dlc characters is a problem in general (ofcourse), but even in that I think there are even more problematic chracters such as ganryu and zafina that are crazy obnoxious that require more labbing than armor king.
@toto_feather8732
3 жыл бұрын
Well, don't get me wrong here. I'm not calling AK an obnoxious problem or anything, especially when there's characters like Geese, Ganryu, Zafina or Fahk... Anyway, remember when Eliza was considered bottom tier, because of "bad frames" ? Hm.. People just tend to cling on frames etc too much imo, when their whole kit's utility is something completely different ^^
@bridyboo3967
3 жыл бұрын
Idk what you mean by "too well" but yes he's a complete character (other than lacking a ws 13 punisher) i agree. He is a good character, is he OP? no and I think both of us can agree on that. And being a DLC character is an issue with bamco's business policy not balance or an advantage, bamco could leave Leroy as broken as he is today on release, but if he were lab-able without purchasing it, Leroy would still be regarded as Broken even if he was lab-able.
Rko
I can do all of this except dark upper into cd1 lol.
@god-speedspiderman9228
3 жыл бұрын
Its not that hard
@tompoole2521
3 жыл бұрын
Practice! Hopkick into CD1 is possible too and the timing on that is very tight.
Usual Mainman intros : Half the video + cringe dialogues Mainman intro in 8 min guides: 5 sec
Giving Peter Mao a run for his money.
No mention of the ridiculous B 1+4? Blasphemous.
@davidparry5310
3 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean b+1+4?
@UndefeatableKing
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidparry5310 I do, thanks for the correction.
Armor King is such a bad matchup for Bryan, he just punishes Bryans 3+4 consistently
@boudou04
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
Strong mids? I would like to disagree
@boudou04
3 жыл бұрын
I disagree too
you have this, and this, and this, bruh you never even say what the input is lmfao
Oh god. He's throwing that BS out there about why people do wave dash. I can see it in his eyes it's BS.. If you're doing it to look good, do it, just know you might be punished. I don’t know why people listen to TMM tips and stick to it instead of using your own judgement.
@Adam7180
2 жыл бұрын
People use wavedash to realign, and of course, it comes with risks, they can actually launch when we are wavedashing.
You forgot to say he's just a clone
@Adam7180
2 жыл бұрын
No, he is not.
@Jabermania
2 жыл бұрын
@@Adam7180 why
@Adam7180
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jabermania he is really different from king.
@Jabermania
2 жыл бұрын
@@Adam7180 why
@Adam7180
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jabermania play him, and compare him with king. He is much different
horrible guide
@steins3699
Жыл бұрын
its 2 years old