Simple yet very effective, following your guides saved me on hiring a joiner. Thanks for sharing your skills and knowledge, very thoughtful.

Oh my god...this is so helpful!!! :-) Exactly what I need right now. I know it's 10 years later...but thank you!

Thank you, appreciate you time to show us. Regards Phil

thanks for posting the video, I have my steel beams up and did not know the best way to fix the 2 sheet of plaster board for building regs approval, Now I do. Cheers

Simplest video I've watched on this topic, no fraff, thanks for sharing 👍🏿

you just saved me a ton of work in my basement finish bud. thanks very much!

@Bernieclark45

10 жыл бұрын

Your welcome.

Tackling this project today, thanks for the clear instructions!

@Bernieclark45

9 жыл бұрын

Good luck.

Wonderful instruction. Thank you.

Hey thanks for taking the time very helpful great job

Cheers Bern - Excellent job!

Thanks Sir Very useful, to know how RSJs are covered. I loved where you said "...in building you never have enough hands" lol

Perfect.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Great Video , Thanks for sharing...

Fantastic! Exactly what i was looking for

I did this last week, never done it before, followed your video and absolutely bossed it! Thanks so much for the upload with simple clear instructions. Top man.

@micahnsmith

2 жыл бұрын

How has it lasted so far?

@tokihokuto4349

2 жыл бұрын

@@micahnsmith perfect no problems, covered the plaster board with wood effect wallpaper, everybody mistakes it for a wooden beam. Sounds cheap but looks ace.

Thanks so much. Hard to understand the English accent but, even with that, very well done and made my job very easy.

@Bernieclark45

7 жыл бұрын

Your welcome paul. Sorry about the accent it is Portsmouth in the South of UK.

Great help thanks Bernie

I can't understand the 30 minute rule. Yet normal ceilings have wooden beams with a single sheet of plasterboard protecting them. Someone explain please.

Fantastic tips. Thanks you

Daniel. Not sure now as I have not been in touch with building regs for over a year best check with them.

do you double batton both sides of the steel beam,,,cheers

In most private dwellings the requirement is for 30 mins (depending on size and occupancy) This can be achieved with one layer of 12.5 standard plasterboard as set out in the British gypsum white book.

@Bernieclark45

5 жыл бұрын

You are probably right but I considered the walls above are an end house wall and a load bearing wall over a kitchen. Belt and braces.

You only have to cut through the paper so one cut should suffice to break the board. You will go through your knives very quickly this way. Nonetheless a good demo. thanks.

Great! Thank you What about a boxed lintel?

But how do you get the bottom ones to stay there?

Great video. What are your thoughts on how to plaster a channel beam where there is only one recess on one side?

@Bernieclark45

7 жыл бұрын

You could use a tube type adhesive and scrim tape on all edges including to the ceiling both sides. Otherwise drill and fix the carry battens.

Is that your job Bern or a home project ??

Both, I am a builder but it is a home project.

Hi, if you pulled down a load bearing wall and you wanted the ceiling to be flush from room A to room B, so it looks seamless, do you lower the ceiling or is there another type of beam you use? Thanks

@Bernieclark45

10 жыл бұрын

It depends on the direction of the joists above. If the new beam will go between the joists you can just make good the gap in the old ceiling caused by the wall removal. It is not likely that the two ceilings will be level. In that case cross batten with 2x1 tile batten screwed to the joists and then plaster board over. If the steel has to go under the joist to support them, then make down the ceiling with 3 x 2 hangers and 4 x 2 joists then board over. Remember; to conform to building regulations, you will always need to fix a layer of plaster board to the beam first before boarding the ceiling.

Hi Bern, Is every steel beam fitted subject to double skin plaster board (for fire protection) or was this for a particular reason? Reply appreciated.

@HABHBX

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, alternatively use fire retardant. 2x plaster is ok, but doubles the visual size of the beam.

Why not use pink plaster board ?. Then you dont need double plaster board ?.

A few dabs of grab adhesive on the back of each batten or even the first layer boards would not do any harm.

I cant quite see what's supporting the very top edge of the vertical pb....

Why would you use two plaster board pieces?

nice

Also do you have a video on how you put up the steel beam?

@Moxyator

7 жыл бұрын

Peter Fider execellent video and good work done. Just had this don't myself in the garage but now the Council inspector wants it fire taping and skimming ?

Hi just a quick little question is there any regulations on the thickness of the plaster board? Thanks Dan

@AbramSF

4 жыл бұрын

No. You can make the plaster board as thick as you want. Within reason of course.

You doing really good job. lik it

@Bernieclark45

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Faisal I have done some videos of building work but I am retired now so do so much.

Hi,you can buy fire rated plaster board which would require only one skin ,instead of two,saves a little time.

@Bernieclark45

6 жыл бұрын

Yes thank you Max.

@ewanhealy5891

6 жыл бұрын

One layer of fire board gives 30 minutes fire resistance, you need two layers, 15 + 12.5mm to give one hour.

@chompyb

4 жыл бұрын

@@ewanhealy5891 That's true, but UK Building Regulations only require 30 minutes of fire resistance.

@southparklion

11 ай бұрын

So 5/8" board in the US...

@Jim-fw4rx

9 ай бұрын

Yes, pink plasterboard is fire rated.

Hi Bernie. We have a small project at Southampton area. Would you mine to pop up and deal with that? Not for free of course. Many thanks.

@Bernieclark45

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Dimitris. Sorry I have not replied I have been away. I am now retired and out of touch with building regs.

Hi Bern, thanks for the video, but I thought that the first 'noggins' that you install in the beam had to be fixed with a screw or a bolt, not just tapped in. Is this correct? Regards, Pete.

@Bernieclark45

9 жыл бұрын

Peter you may be right. However the plasterboard is fix you have to be sure it canot fall away. In this case I am relying on when the ceiling is over boarded it traps the beam boarding in place. I should have mentioned that. So thanks for pionting that out.

@stevehallam6495

2 жыл бұрын

the video shows the standard acceptable method just knocking the nogs in.

How did you fix the wood infills in? Did you just wedge them?

@Bernieclark45

4 жыл бұрын

Yes just wedged in. When it is plastered the scrim tape on the corners hold it all in place

@plummetplum

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bernieclark45 Makes sense, thanks Bernie. BTW I am thinking about installing a steel for my loft, do you have a rough rule of thumb to calculate steel size to span, I've seen rule of thumbs for wood joist but not steel. I know ultimately I'll need structural calcs but need a rough size for now?

@Bernieclark45

4 жыл бұрын

@@plummetplum .Afraid not Matt sorry. Before I did mine I took the drawing to a structural engineer to check they could and would supply it. Then took the calculations to the steel supplier. All before applying for planing and building regs.

@plummetplum

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bernieclark45 Fair play thanks again Bernie.

I might drill and fix for added strength. Cheers.

@johnbower

4 жыл бұрын

If you drill the steel you will loose strength

@FreeMind5094

3 жыл бұрын

by drilling, you strengthen the framing (which is supposed to hold the plaster board only), but you weaken the steel beam (which is structural; it holds the entire roof).

You should not wedge any timbers in any RSJ steel Web thats carrying a load bearing wall. Steel expands when it gets to a certain temperature, causing movement between steel and the wedged timber (between steel web) causing the doubled up plasterboard to fall. Proper way is to screwfix timber at full length in the steel web and continue with noggins every 400 centres. Fire resistant board will give you the same properties as doubled up plaster board saving you half the work time but must be plastered.

@Bernieclark45

9 жыл бұрын

Tim Hunnisett Thanks for that Tim.

@mrgunshow1959

7 жыл бұрын

Surely it would have to expand considerably for them to fall out, I could imagine it could allow for movement and cracking but not for the boards to fall down. Is it possible to stick the wood in with an adhesive?

@Bernieclark45

7 жыл бұрын

The ceiling boards hold the face boards in; after all is set so the wedged timbers are not doing anything.

@SR-fl9xl

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Tim you seem to know your stuff, how would 1 achieve 1 hr fire protection to meet current b regs? appreciate your time.

@moro1891

5 жыл бұрын

The temperature difference, beam deflection, and etc should not be that much to cause the wood timbers wedged in the beam to fall. I rather have them installed that way than drilling into the beam web. It would be difficult to drill through that metal, plus I would'nt advise people to go on messing with structural elements. (I'm a structural engineer). Regards

Do you think jet fuel could melt those beams?

@MotoQuickShifter

9 жыл бұрын

No as It was an Inside Job lol

@Br4daform

7 жыл бұрын

The heat from the jet fuel would have sufficiently weakened the steel.

@letsgocamping88

6 жыл бұрын

Ever heard of a blast furnace?

@letsgocamping88

6 жыл бұрын

Ever heard of a blast furnace?

@Br4daform

6 жыл бұрын

The world trade furnace

Doesn't it have to be fireboard?

@Bernieclark45

10 жыл бұрын

At the time the building regs. called for two thickness of plasterboard but to be sure use Fireline board.

It is building regs that steel has to have two layers. The risk in putting steels up by DIY is to great, best get a builder to do it.

@davidelliott5843

3 жыл бұрын

DIY can do it but jobs like this need building regs approved and professional engineering calculations.

@mikee2773

2 жыл бұрын

Two layers of conventional board or one of fire rated board

How has this lasted?

@Bernieclark45

2 жыл бұрын

Still there now.

Should be pink board double tacked wouldn’t pass over here

Make some videos about building work

Fire proof board required

@christopherwright1100

5 жыл бұрын

Wrong

Always need a third hand

i always stick mine in with stick like shit

@Bernieclark45

6 жыл бұрын

That works.

in the time it took me to watch this video I'd have put the noggins in ..boarded it ..beaded it and skimmed it !!

@Bernieclark45

7 жыл бұрын

Then you did not need to watch the video.

@zx10racer22

7 жыл бұрын

So I assume you know what you're doing, bravo, you probably had no reason to watch the video in the first place. But for someone like me, attempting something similar on a DIY basis, this video has been very helpful. Thank you Bernie.

@justycrusty

6 жыл бұрын

Ronan Dunne my hero