Getting into fashion through avant garde whores was probably my biggest mistake. One funny thing i remember was speaking to someone praising undercover due to jun taking punk culture and making it fashionable but essentially hating bape/stussy/supreme for doing the same exact thing with street/urban culture. They fail to appreciate fashion outside of the same 5-8 designers that they worship on meme pages and "archive" stores.

@hamdoon1158

4 жыл бұрын

fax bro

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

This is so true and it’s extremely frustrating. What’s funny is the real OG of punk in fashion is Vivienne Westwood who’s time was way before the likes of undercover. People just need to learn to appreciate all facets of fashion from streetwear to high end fashion. Everyone has something to offer, the whole elitism thing is just complete backward thinking. High end fashion is inspired by streetwear and Street culture all the time so I find it strange that people who are into some of these high ends brands think they’re above streetwear (the culture that their favourite brands get inspiration from).

I feel like fashion constantly has this aura of inaccessibility. It definitely stems from the elitist nature and history of high fashion. The lack of info sharing even comes down to how a garment is made, or the background processes of a designer/label/house. I think there is also a common idea that in order to understand 'high' culture you must be able to afford it/wear it. Almost saying "how can you know rick when you can't own ramones.". Granted regular knowledge is like that. This vid is like a confidence booster to keep soaking up all the info we can and it still renders our learning valid.

I agree fashion is very daunting.. what I do is go through an article and any name, brand, or concept I don’t recognize, I type it into a running list I have and look it up later- and keep this little Encyclopedia for myself on my computer. One thing really leads to another.

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

That’s a great process

@biscuitgames_5016

4 жыл бұрын

Please share ur encyclopedia ( Biscuitgames.naam@gmail.com). Mine is all in my head. But I am planning to make a open google docs this summer.

@dannyskippy

4 жыл бұрын

Yooo could you share your encyclopedia by any chance?

@dannyskippy

4 жыл бұрын

@@biscuitgames_5016 Could you share?

@rayna463

4 жыл бұрын

fitted out well the whole point is that the list is tailored to your interested and your own personal web of research. Me sharing the list is equivalent to you just looking up like “the top 50 designers”. The whole activity is looking through articles and researching ya know?? You learn better that way

I find fashion history to be fascinating and seeing how things repeat and modify over time. I HIGHLY recommend the podcast, "Dressed: The History of Fashion". The two hosts aren't just fashion enthusiasts but work in fashion. April Callahan works at FIT and Cassidy Zachary is a fashion historian and author. I've also found that reading a general book about popular designers so understand why people to things and how and go down the rabbit hole from there. I've also come to the conclusion that there are some things I don't "get" and aren't my jam, like streetwear and a lot of Japanese design, but I can appreciate it and understand the influence. Loic Prigent is new to me but is brilliant! His access to designer is amazing to get inside their head and atelier. I also recommend documentaries to see how an idea becomes a concept becomes a design becomes a piece of amazing construction to be bought.

@desir9226

4 жыл бұрын

Really a great Podcast

@handofmidas9609

4 жыл бұрын

what the documentaries u talking about?

@Santafefashionweek

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, looking forward to listening to that Podcast

one funny thing I remember when first entering the knowledge side of fashion, was that I labelled brands as being cars, with each to their own model,logo, design, and price range, to differentiate from eachother and somehow it still sticks with me today. interesting thing is that i can barely mention any car brands, but sure as hell can mention many fashion brands, and talk about them

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

This is actually quite interesting. Never known anyone to think of it quite this way which is interesting because ultimately it’s clearly been working for you 👌🏿

@TheGrifhinx

4 жыл бұрын

This style of learning, as in putting practically everything there could be about a field neatly into classifications, really helped me in learning a lot of fields, fashion included. And it's kinda flexible in that it doesn't have to be brands all the time. There could be a way to classify what might be approaches to designs or styles (for inaccurate example, silhouette-based stuff like deconstructed to body conscious to full Balenciaga), to classify collections (FW, SS, haute couture, prêt-à-porter, etc), and a lot of others. And then it's just branching off from there with filling in specific details per "classification".

You were my rabbit-hole into fashion, haha! It all started when my friend wore a Vetements shirt that piqued my interest, so I searched the brand on KZread and got to your video about it. And then I just binged watch everything that seems interesting. Then youtube recommended The Casual which introduced me to Japanese streetwear and then there's also Frugal Aesthetic with his entertaining meme videos lol Regarding gatekeeping and elitism, there's also this anti-hypebeast kinda group of people which I find equally annoying. Hypebeasts wear hype clothing to feel better about themselves, so these guys in turn shame hype culture to feel better about themselves. Like anything by a popular designer or brand is "overpriced crap" or something to them. It's virtually impossible to have any form of mutually respecting discussion online because it seems that people love to be on either extreme end.

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

I totally agree, it’s quite annoying because people choose to be on either side instead of just being in the middle and appreciating all facets of fashion. Which is how it would be in an ideal world

Learning about some history of fashion and knowing more about my favorite brands actually helped me quite a bit in my first and second year in uni. So the lesson is, reading helps. Lol

You are speaking the truth on gatekeeping. I've worked in fashion for years and I'm sick of it! Fashion should be fun and I am not here for any elitism in it, people just want to be seen in the latest brand and have no concept of the history of the clothes, what inspired it...hell they couldnt even tell you why they like it.

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

100% true

You’re so humble 😂

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

I promise you It’s not that. I just genuinely don’t know as much as people think. Not saying I know nothing but not as much as people think

@j.b.castro8412

3 жыл бұрын

comparing with people that know a lot less and think they’re the next anna wintour, you’re really humble. love that

The hero we deserve

I wouldn't even say those people are part of the industry, most people who gatekeep stuff like Rick, Margiela, etc. most likely don't have any interest to work in fashion and would rather circlejerk around in fit boards and insult people who "don't know anything" if anything they're completely disassociated from reality

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

100% true

yes yes yes! i was in that super strange limbo for a long time after i started modelling, i just felt so inferior because it seemed like everyone knew SO much more than me but also put their opinions of collections on pedestals which led me to believe they were facts. when i'm not wearing whacky garms my personal style is just 99% all black (sometimes high-end) grungy goth (essentially rick LOL) so a lot of the time i really wasn't a fan of any of the collections they always raved about and i thought it was just because i 'wasn't properly informed'. then i realised recently it's not that deep, start by learning about what YOU like and as you said it'll send you down a rabbit hole! ANYWAY you, bliss and luke are my fave fashion channels keep it tf up! 🖤

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

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I personally begin with big names, then writing down all the names I hear/see on shows/videos etc. Then when I love a designer I get deeper on them, then their inspirations (go back in history)...

totally agree with the rabbit hole approach. kanye and pharrell were my introduction to fashion. another way, which you touched on in a previous video, is to follow the publicly traded companies that own a lot of these luxury brands. LVMH, Kering, Farfetch, etc.. release financial reports and press releases to their investors which hold a lot of information about the brands each company owns.

Thanks for this video. It rly made me feel comfortable and welcome. I have been quite into fashion and I’ve been focusing on all aspects (including art and design) and it gets kinda overwhelming, with soo much content, that when you come across “gatekeepers”, it almost feels like you know nothing. But fashion means so much to me (I wanna be a creative director/designer myself one day) and what I think is, don’t give up on something if you love it, remember why you came in the first place.

We know you’re not an expert but appreciate the thorough knowledge you do share from what you’ve researched. It saves us time, that’s why we like, comment, and subscribe!

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

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i honestly think this is the best fashion channel on youtube

You said nothing but FACTS especially about gatekeepers!!!

Actually right before you said you would not be qualified to be a university professor.... That's exactly what I was thinking you should do. Because your teaching is really Good. That is a talent. And some people could know more but be terrible teachers and students would have a terrible time. Teachers do so much and they facilitate that creative growth and flow. I think you totally could do it. :) Even like starting out giving one course idk.

came across your channel through another video suggestion and it looks like it will be my entrance to the rabbit hole of fashion. What comes out a lot from your video is the idea of being curios and keeping an open mind. whenever i find a name i don't know i ask myself who is it,what is the style and as you say one thing leads to the next... the base to this should be a true interest (sorry hypebeasts i don't find you all that interested)

you are amazing at what you are doing!! great energy, hard work and honesty!! i love your job...keep up the good work!! blessings from Greece!!!

I love your video bro thank you for making this! Also, I like the camera upgrade and environment setup! It really brings your channel to life and it feels more personable!

This is just the history of fashion. It was burn this way!

so happy you made this, agree 100%, applaud!

This was really good and interesting to watch. Clearly we all need to not view fashion as a zone that is owned by an elite crew or something. There's a more lot to explore !!!!

this video just gave me motivation to get back into researching/learning about fashion - thank you!

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

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that's dope. Thanks for giving us your insight and process. I'd like to expand the whole process to any other field. Thats how you learn new stuff and yeah you made a great point about insecurity surrounding the gatekeepers. Some people are just knucklehead... thats life. But hey, People shouldnt be scared to ask. Asking for anything is the key to learning more and learning specifically what you want to learn. Id like to add that the goal isnt to learn everything. Learn what you're interested in, what you love. More life. Great content, like always. Keep it up.

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

You raised a very great point “the goal isn’t to learn everything.” No one can know everything but we should strive to delve deeper into things that peak our interest

When you start talking about fashion and end it talking about psychology/sociology 💘

Great information

Me gusta lo q haces!!

Thank you for making this video to address this! I've always loved watching all your videos but I've never really gotten round to taking a deep dive into learning about high fashion, because I've always found it quite daunting. I remember feeling the same way when I first started getting into sneakers and streetwear, but information about those areas was so much more accessible on KZread. However, I think this information is slowly getting more accessible on KZread as well, thanks to channels like yours, Bliss, Sugarwoman and Loic Prigent, so I'm really grateful for that. 🙏🙏 Just a question regarding elitism and gatekeeping in fashion, was it always like this? Seems like it something thats being talked about a lot nowadays. Could it be a reaction to an increased interest in high fashion because of things such as the recent archive wave? Kind of similar to how "hipsters" used to be a thing a number of years ago, and would get triggered whenever an indie artist they listened to got popular. Would love to hear your thoughts on this, I'm thinking of making a video discussing this issue.

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

You should definitely make a video on this. It has unfortunately always been like this in fashion. Luxury and high end fashion was actually built on the idea of elitism as a way to promote this idea that buying luxury made you better than someone without it. Similar to the marketing tactics of diamonds. I just have decided to talk about it because people have been poisoned by the marketing tactics and continue to partake in elitism

@richardleewz

4 жыл бұрын

​@@FashionRoadman that's really interesting that elitism seems to be built into the DNA of high end fashion. I guess trying to reduce elitism in fashion is harder than I'd thought :/

The younger Rick Gate keepers buy it because its somewhat affordable second hand on grailed, and its viewed as "cool".

In regards to the rick gatekeepers "They have this aura of elitism that surrounds them" so facts bro.

Love your channel 😍

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

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My thoughts exactly with gatekeeper types, definitely get insecure vibes from them.

can you please make a video of fashion vocabulary? like what haute couture and pret-à-porter etc means xx

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

This video goes deep into the meaning of pret-a-porter kzread.info/dash/bejne/aoKe16ekXd2wY5s.html

LMAO this is so true .. people deal with fashion as clubs .. you see that a lot in twitter

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

It's frustrating

The whole gatekeeping thing makes no sense, if you truly like the designer you wear wouldn’t you be trying to introduce new people who might buy something meaning the designer gets more money to spend on his brand

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

That’s what’s funny. They want to feel like they’re part of a small community of a few that know about the brand which I find very strange but it’s what they do.

Bro. You know a lot.

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe, but not as much as people think and I’ve started to realise how little I know as I talk to a few fashion professors now

Do you have any ways to find out more about Yohji

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

No at the moment. The information on Yohji is very limited unless you can read in Japanese

@dariansoutherland225

4 жыл бұрын

The Fashion Archive im in awe you responded hahah, thank you, i guess i’ll have to learn japanese

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

Haha one day I may dedicate my time to deciphering the information as my girl speaks and reads Japanese but till then we need to hit up Reggie Casual for the Yohji translations

@dariansoutherland225

4 жыл бұрын

The Fashion Archive Hahaha good idea

I been into fashion for long time to the point it’s not interesting to me when people brag with what they got at this time avant been a life style for me and having hypebeast and people who brag about it I just laugh and walk away

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

The whole bragging thing is a bit childish to me

@NiGoes

4 жыл бұрын

The Fashion Archive Bruh we should communicate on insta !

Joining pateron next week fam

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it ❤️

Bruh no cap I hate gate keepers you hit some key points. The know it alls killing the fashion community. I’m only like 10 months into fashion my style has changed a lot over time if you have time could you give me some advice on how I can better my page. Anyone in the comments as well any tips would be vital. Thanks Instagram @blvkrven

3:49 The way he butched CCP's name xD

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

Lool the Avant Garde whores are going to come for me 😭

@bxckdoor9113

4 жыл бұрын

@sam caldeira Trusttttt, check out david moseer. The man is a G.