👉 500 LIKES please! What do you find is the most challenging aspect of the mixing stage? 🤔

@jonhopwood3947

3 жыл бұрын

Making space within the mix for each individual instrument/sound and getting each element loud in the mix without creating mud.

@DjReka87

3 жыл бұрын

THE SNARE!!!!!

@Artersa

3 жыл бұрын

Making space for each element, knowing where to place cuts and boosts (see point one I suppose), and gain staging. I try the technique of bringing the volume down to complete silence and bringing each track up one by one, and my mix always sounds out of whack

@RDKZOFFICAL

3 жыл бұрын

Sub and voice processing

@butterfrymusic9458

3 жыл бұрын

Not squishing every thing and gain staging..also just not know what fixes what haha

What. The. Fuck. That was the BEST production video I’ve ever watched. ‘Side chaining’ a snare by using an envelop on a filter... sure why not?? Golden tip. That’s the extra 10% that takes a record to it’s peak. Great content.

This is exactly what I've been waiting for 👍

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

glad to hear that, and hope it helps!

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

Very nice of you to say! Appreciate you watching

Thanks to Tyr Kohout for his incredible work and to you for directing this new mixing series, big ups and cheers 🙌🔥

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Its our pleasure, and keep up the great work with your music!

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

Glad we could showcase our content on your music!

some wicked techniques in here, going to try that serum side chain thing now. big ups

This was the best thing to wake up to before spending a few hours in the lab! Thanks so much!

Thank you for everything your share on YT, I cant thank you enough for sharing all of these insights, I will be hitting your shop payday for sure. Thanks Stranjah!

Another one! I struggle to get my bass to sit well! Infact part of the Track, to me it feels like an after thought! You Seem to drop these videos at the right time Stranjah! Thank you 🙏🏽

Amazing stuff !!! Thanks

great video thank you both!

Excellent tutorial 👌🏻 thank you both top lads 👌🏻👍🏻❤

That last tip in serum fx is phenomenal!

thanks to you 2 !

the fine line between a punchy bomper snare and a harsh hella resonant shit boi snare

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

well said, "all snares matter"

You can zoom in on a wave form in Ableton, you don't need to hoof the gain up. Just press the [+ - ] symbols or cmd and scroll forward (pull fingers away from each other on touch pad) or highlight selection and press Z.

Some great tips on EQ and taming unwanted resonances, session organization etc. I continue to be amazed at how surgical you can get with plugin EQs (I learned on SSL consoles and rarely used plugins in my professional engineering days). Good tips for pseudo side chaining in Serum too :) From a production standpoint, I would probably start with using sample selection to avoid having to do extreme EQing like this (snare does not work, switch out the snare sample! Maybe what I find extreme is actually pretty standard these days), but from a mix engineer perspective this makes total sense. I definitely tried and applied these techniques and had success. Big up Tyr and Stranjah! Great content as usual.

Dude needed a De-ESSER!!! lmao. "But he is a professional."

Wow! Such a cool alternative to sidechaining! I use a similar technique with Ableton's Auto-Filter side chain effect but Serums effects are solid! Thanks again!

yes mate 👍 what a great video

VERY GOOD VIDEO...REALLY ENJOYED THIS...LOOKING FORWARD TO EP2...BIG UP !!!

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Should finish this series

Really agree with not using convential side chain compression, you don't notice it so much on moniters, but really makes the difference on a big soundsystem. That serum fx trick is going to save me hours, i usually draw in volume automations. Thanks :)

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

There are a number of ways to get from A-B! Check out LFO tool and Duck VST's as well.

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

Yikes! I try to avoid spending too much time on repetitive automation. I'm glad I could reclaim some time for you in the studio.

Awesome!!! These are the types of videos I’ve been waiting to see.

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear that and hope you found something helpful today.

@Artersa

3 жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH I’ve got some feedback for you guys for this video. 1) It’s moving pretty quick. The “fast forwarding” sequences can come fast without much explanation, i.e. the gate on the snare. There was not explanation on the settings used. I noticed the same thing when processing with Neutron. Folks could say that’s because it’s an advanced tutorial, but I still think there could be more explanatory work done. For example, your explicit mention of what the knobs do in Serum helps people of all skill ranges immensely. 2) Somewhat related, but explaining more on differences between EQs, why you’d use classic EQ vs EQ8, what an SSL emulation means for the average user, etc would be very useful. 3) unwarping everything at the beginning... I’m not sure why that was done. I would imagine that folks are arranging the way they need before deep mixing. Perhaps that’s just my workflow being different or very basic still. 4) that sidechaining through Serum trick was super neat. I would have never thought to have done that. I enjoyed the video, but I definitely hope that Tyr takes some more time in the next video. Big ups y’all.

Wow that serum sidechain trick!! Really helpfull video

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

That technique was a total game changer for me too.

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Yes its super clever!

Yes bro this is exactly the content we need

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that and hope it helps you improve your mixes.

Straight up wicked!..... Some amazing techniques used that I've never seen before. This is one of your best insights to date and that is saying something bro 👊

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that!

Amazing...Thank you very much!!!!😎😎❤❤🙌🙌

That was great. Immensely educational

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

That's very kind! Thanks for stopping by.

Great as usual. Many thanks!

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

awesome insight! keep it coming :)

Great work, loving these videos! You're never to old to learn more.

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! And bigup!

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree! Art is a journey and not a destination.

This series will be huge and extremely informative! :) Thanks for the great work guys

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

welcome, Tyr really wanted to get this knowledge out there, so hopefully it helps

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

Very kind of you! I hope even more people come along for the journey on this one.

Excellent!

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Many thanks!

The video hasn't even started and I smash that like button!!!

That SerumFX trick 🤯! Didn't know you could use it like that. Great content once again, keep it up STRANJAH! Looking forward to the next episode

@TheDarkInstall

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that was great. Very useful indeed.

Cool! Thanks!

Impressed especially by the low cpu usage with all that processing. Great tips, now I'm gonna save for all these plugins haha

I’m really looking forward to this one. These videos have have been a huge source of inspiration for me. Keep it going sir 👏🏻🙌

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear you are inspired by the content, I wish you luck on your journey.

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

That's really awesome, man! I love doing this stuff so do come back when the next one is out!

This is great cuz I only started producing 3 months ago and I’m useless at advanced mixing can’t wait to watch!

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Hope you learnt a few things that can help improve your mixing skills!

@roderickmusic600

3 жыл бұрын

Same with me. Every video is so helpful. Thanks stranjah👍👍👍

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

Even all these years later I still don't feel like I am where I would like to be with mixing. Learning your craft is a nonstop process. Keep learning and having fun!

@roderickmusic600

3 жыл бұрын

@@TyrKohout absolutely man. Cheers

Never used serum fx to sidechain before, great tip, gonna try that 👍

As always love your content and big thank you to Tyr! Just wondering where the rest of the episodes are? If you just haven't gotten round to making/releasing them that's calm but if they're out for general consumption I'd love to go watch them!

Thanks for that man thats a really good way to look at getting a groove on the transients. Much love

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Dope technique for sure!

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you thought so! Drum mixdowns are so important. Makes the whole thing feel right.

Great stuff! Thanks

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

As always Alan, I learn something new from each and every one of your tutorials. I am 100% going to be changing my mixdown workflow, for sure. However, when expanding the wave forms, instead of counteracting the volume with the channels fader, I will probably use a Utility. That way the channel fader remains untouched until I've finished making everything sound right. I like Tyrs use of Serum to sidechain the Snare to the highs of the percussion. I have, however discovered a plugin that I would like to share that does the same job, but maybe a little better. Duck by Devious Machines. I picked it up for $5 when it was on sale and it's what I use to do all my sidechaining. The reason I think it's better is that you can view the wave form of what you're sidechaining to dial in that "duck", then set it to the sidechain track. It also has a filter. Check it out and let me know what you think.

@bohman3231

3 жыл бұрын

Same ! Watching Tyr move that fader had me biting my tongue ! lol glad I wasnt the only one but he has some unique style so props

That side chaining technique is awesome! Have been looking for a more transparent way of sidechaining so very eager to see the next video where he applies that technique to bass! Quality video. Cheers guys!

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Yes there's a couple tools that can help you achieve this. Xfer LFO Tool as well as Devious Machines Ducking can do this directly without having to do the routing. The Serum FX way just saves you from buying another VST. Experiment and see!

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

It's one of my favorite studio secrets!

Your the man thanks for this!

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

welcome!

need part 2 #Salute

Yes Ableton mixing down is what I need

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers, and for those not on Ableton, the concepts are transferrable.

@Reguez01

3 жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH Defo love some more Alix Perez/1985 style whompy basses in Serum too though :)

@shawncartwright

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not on Ableton but tips are great.

@Reguez01

3 жыл бұрын

@@shawncartwright yeh I mean he's mostly using external plugs anyway tbh. Good stuff.

For sidechaining the certain frequency you can use something like Trackspace.

Super dope! Learnt a tonne!

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that and hope it improves your personal process.

Legend

FYI the T-Racks Classic EQ is free on their website, nifty if your computer supports it, go check it out, sounds nice.

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Wow thanks for the heads up!

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome tip!

@batteryincorporated

3 жыл бұрын

thanks dude!!

Great Video :) Some really nice tips in this 👍 Keep them coming 😊

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Will do!

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

I'm really happy to hear that! Thanks!

Big ups again Stranjah! Killing it lately.

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers sir!

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for stopping by!

@modfreq

3 жыл бұрын

@@TyrKohout Thank you!

The technique that he's using around the 15:20 minute mark is what Infected mushroom does on their music too which i find amazing since these guys don't use sidechain compression at all, they have a reaktor free plugin around on their forum called "Kick & Bass solver" which works around midi signals to highpass the mix whenever the kick or whatever you choose is punching, making it sound more natural vs normal side chain compression.

Wow. This is Platinum material. Everyone smash that thumbs up!

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you think so!

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

That's really great to hear!

this is an amazing video with awesome educational content, but I regret to inform Tyr that you can actually in fact, zoom in on a waveform in ableton live 10. That just stuck out to me. I love the video regardless. These tips are incredibly helpful

Nice video! Maybe a bit more detail on things such as the frequencies (being EQ'd) and what each plugin is (Compressor, EQ etc) would be great next time for those of us diving into the world of mixing (as the video was all so fast, don't get me wrong, concise and to the point is king!). Fantastic channel Stranjah, and big ups Tyr! Keep dat shit rollin'!

For mixing drums it can be useful to add some delays on specific hihat and percussion elements. If set up properly you can create a nice rolling or running effect. example: Kryptic Minds - Six Degrees

@calvinschatzke5899

3 жыл бұрын

But it's more a creative aspect, not a technical.

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

I agree its a technique I've explored to make hihats more dynamic and interesting!

very interesting ! will the bass mixing video come out soon ?

wicked vid, been really struggling with mix's lately

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

hope it helps your mix down's, it definitely takes time and ear training

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

It's a lifelong journey, my friend. Keep having fun and mixing!

Good stuff. Have Ep2 & EP3 come out yet? Thanks 👍

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Not yet soon :)

I am 2 years late, but where is part 2 and 3?

Would be awesome to get more videos on advanced tips for mix downs. This is the area where I need to vastly improve the most. I just struggle to get it to a point where I feel it would be ready to be mastered. The writing side of things isn’t a problem. Not enough decent mixdown tutorials out there. It would also be great if the videos weren’t ableton specific. So maybe tips on how to mixdown in general rather than how to mixdown in ableton. Keep up the good work mate! Truly legendary! 👊🏻🔥

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jon, concepts here are universal, I supposed I just had to add Ableton in the titling.

@jonhopwood3947

3 жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH Perfect! I look forward to watching it!

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

It can be an abstract thing to teach and communicating technical concepts takes a while to learn. I'm glad you feel energized by this series!

Trying to get the bass and kick sound loud together

Did the episode about bass get released? I can’t seem to find it?

How to do the serum Fx sidechain trick in FL studio??

I assume you have to add the serum SC at the end of your FX chain. If so how do I account for delay caused by plugins like Erosion etc?

I just wanna say thanks :´D

When he says you can’t zoom in, is he not talking about stretching up the bottom screen? That way you wouldn’t need to increase the level to be able to have the visibility? @4:48

My issue is low end and filling up the spectrum

5mins 36seconds into the track 'Haunted Minds' bz Nebula do they stop the turntable several times or do the just bring the tempo down over 3 seconds or so in the drum pattern please STRANJA.??

He covered a lot of important aspects. But I missed the editing of a whole drums submix.

Edit: I have just found a problem in Serum and Serum FX when it comes to automating the volume knob on the effects. It introduces some kind of artefacts in the top end of signals when it's being automated rapidly. So I can't recommend using serum FX at all for sidechaining. Hey man great tutorial however I think that teaching people to sidechain with a filter is bad practice. You are messing with the phase of the rest of your drums in that group. If you right-click the mix knob of the filter in Serum Fx you can change the level of the filter and leave it totally open. You won't hear the swishing sound under the track and it won't be brought out by aggressive compression in the mastering stage. Other than that it's a great video keep it up man your killing it!

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Good tip, I'll try that out!

@OSCOMusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@STRANJAH alternatively I would go for something like shaper box or Duck as it’s easier to rout the side chain in Ableton live 10

What happened to the rest of the series?

What is your favourite tools and VST's for mixing?

@Swancore1

3 жыл бұрын

I group my tracks into sub categories of each kind, BASS, DRUMS, MELODY, DRAMA, VOCALS, and put Utility, EQ and Ozone 9 Multi Band Imager on Voxengo Span on each group for final mix to carve out space for each. KClip and Pro L2 Limiter on Master and BX XL V2 Multiband Master Limiter as an option if needed.

@jonhopwood3947

3 жыл бұрын

Fabfilter Pro Q3, Fabfilter C2 compressor, Fabfilter Saturn 2, OZONE 9.

@DjReka87

3 жыл бұрын

Fabfilter Pro-Q 2 Ableton Utility (mono-maker) Sonalksis Tbk Filter Fabfilter Pro L Izotope Alloy Izotope Stereo Imager Izotope Trash

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

@@Swancore1 That's a very fine mixing chain you got there, good job!

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonhopwood3947 I need to get some Fabfilter plugins for sure, thx for that.

Where is part 2?

Where is the next episode?

When is the bass mixing tutorial going to be uploaded? :-)

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Later this month or February, thanks for your patience.

@stranjah hey man, what's your stem count for doing a mix? I couldn't see a cap on your website, I'd love to send something over!

@RDKZOFFICAL

3 жыл бұрын

Between 20 and 30 stems for this kind of track :)

Interesting. I like my kicks to have much more bass than that. I think it’s because I like things to be a bit dirty. A lot of DNB sounds over highpassed. I like a bit of character.

Very helpful, although a bit fast.

Using a filter to duck... that's akin to using a low-pass gate rather than a typical VCA.

Dude, you just saved me 50 bucks for the LFO tool. LOL Instead I can just use the Serum for the same thing

Tyrs microphone set up sounds over processed and compressed or something, a bit much just for speech

4:09 BEFORE 16:15 AFTER

i find it funny that some of the eq's he used in this vid i literally got them for free as a gift for downloading free sample packs from a site

3:23 like im running ableton on my nintendo switch

COOOLLL! C'est cool Ableton😀👍! J'ai recréé à ma façon sur ce logiciel l'instru de "It's a man's man's man's world" de James Brown à ma dernière vidéo, tu peux me donner ton avis?😀

Im very bad at mixing and mastering ngl

I was recently diagnosed with AIDS. :(

Tbh these kind of videos are not very useful for someone who wants to learn mixing. Instead of just explaining what you do you should try and explain the theory and reasoning behind every move you make in the mixing process. For example, why one should cut out frequencies, why one should compress stuff a certain way etc. But still appreciate sharing some of the secret sauce.

@TyrKohout

3 жыл бұрын

There isn't a catch-all way to explain concepts like that. I'll often leave resonances in certain elements because taking them out would hurt the tonality. All you're going for in a mix is a balance of all the elements. It's up to you to decide what a "balance" even means. Some engineers use very little compression, some employ limiters on lead vocals. The aim is to give you insight into what I think is appropriate in this mix. Give this project file to 10 other people and you'd have 10 completely different mixes.

@jamesblack993

3 жыл бұрын

@@TyrKohout Agree, mixing is both art and science. But having attended a couple of private mixing courses and getting the "why-s" behind why something is done has been very insightful and helped me more then just looking at someone playing around with the buttons.

Please stop saying "go ahead'.

Sorry to say, but for me, this was really hard to follow. Far too much going on and all at mach speed. Too many things mentioned, yet fast forwarded when being shown, which really doesn't help much. Tons of plugins mentioned, that many won't have and sure, the techniques can be applied elsewhere, but again, with everything glossed over so quickly, what is there really to gain, from this? We couldn't actually 'see' anything that was happening, instead, the end results were just kind of thrown on us, afterwards. I think this video was too ambitious and trying to accomplish too much, too fast and in too little time. Drums are comprised of many layers, all of which require completely different ways to be treated (as you shown and said yourself). I think this video could have been broken down into many smaller ones, where time could have been spent to better explain things and at a slower pace. Perhaps kick and snare could have a separate video from the tops and then percussion in another, etc. I dunno, just my honest thoughts. I get it, you guys are great at what you do and for you guys, this stuff comes quick and easy, but for the rest of us, we need more time and detail to help digest and learn to apply, appropriately. Not hating, just being honest. I love what you guys are doing and respect it all, so don't take this too harshly. Just a little constructive criticism to help for future videos. I really do think there is a lot to share and be gained here, but not in this form of presentation. ;)

@STRANJAH

3 жыл бұрын

Always appreciate your honesty. We may look into a longer form mix series in the future.