Summer's coming Andy. Can't do much outdoor Pottery in Michigan in the winter. To sloppy and wet. Can't wait to apply some of the things I've learned from you

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

Spring is here in Arizona, time to plant the Bee Plant seeds.

up here we call it "Cleome"...it is an ornamental plant here in the North East, grows easily and has huge amounts of seeds

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

interesting, I didn’t know it was a common ornamental in the northeast. But it makes sense, it is a beautiful plant.

@rosalindriley5893

Жыл бұрын

@@AncientPottery I thought I recognised the flowers - we grow it as an annual in the UK and I have some seed saved from last year!

I love the length of the name "Rocky Mountain Bee Plant". I might try making it with Rose Bay Willow Herb" which is the longest "weed" name I can think of locally!

I just harvested some from Boulder, Utah. I love that I needed to figure out how to process it and that you have a video for it. Thank you for what you do, Andy!!

@AncientPottery

11 ай бұрын

At this point I pretty much have a video on any topic you could think of. Thanks

As a potter from Zuni, New Mexico I use the paint coming from the mineral rock Iron Oxide which when fired comes out to a really dark brown but when shown in light it looks like black but keep up the good work!!

I may try this as a post-firing paint, because our clay fires way too hot for organic paint. I enjoy the way it looks just as much as the mineral paints, so I hope it works out! Thanks again, Great video, Sir!

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that would definitely work.

Yeah, yeah, we know... you have a "friend" in Colorado who gets "weed" for you in baggies....

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

All you Colorado hippies. I stopped in one little town in Colorado recently and there was a pot shop on every corner.

@markgibsons_SWpottery

Жыл бұрын

@@AncientPottery I want to see the unboxing!!! LOL! I am just kidding... Glad you have a sense of humor, Sir!

@coopart1

Жыл бұрын

Sorry but THAT was FUNNY 😄

@renpixie

Жыл бұрын

Dude….😊

Fascinating.

Always, awesome stuff Andy!

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks!

@AncientPottery

11 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot Vivi

This was such a fun and interesting video to watch! I'm curious to a comparison of results from your yucca fruit vs bee weed, have you ever done that?

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Will. That video is coming.

@willorocks

Жыл бұрын

@@AncientPottery Oh cool! Can't wait for that one!

Those are really beautiful examples of polychrome pots you show here. Do you have a video of making the paint from mesquite beans?

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

Yes kzread.info/dash/bejne/h4mik6SIftfMnJs.html

I wonder if you would get a higher yield of paint from the same volume of fresh, rather than dried, bee plant? It would be interesting to do a controlled test comparing them.

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

That would be interesting

One thing I thought when you showed that map explaining that Tucson is out of the range of the bee plant is has that always been the case? Essentially, maybe 300 years ago it could grow further south, but maybe competition or climate cause it to recede a little.

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it has changed some but Bee Plant likes cooler wetter weather than Tucson has probably ever had.

I think you coined a new expression at 10:30. Forget comparing "apples to oranges". From now on I'm saying, "that's comparing beans to bee-weed"! Example: Comparing blackware to polychrome? Why that's like comparing beans to bee weed!

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

LOL

I wonder if goldenrod would make good ink.

great video. thank you for showing us. on the trails up here there is an invasive plant, Caragana, it has pods with tiny peas, they even taste like peas. the bushes are loaded with pods, easy to pick and nobody wants that plant here. i will have to try to boil it down. as of yet i don't have a proper slip to paint organic paint on but do you think it might work if i try something like that on a post firing paint job?

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

Interesting, I looked that up, "Siberian Peashrub". It might work fine. Might try some commercial bentonite if you want to try some organic paint.

Can I use the same method but substitute for yucca fruit instead?

@AncientPottery

Ай бұрын

Sure, you can use many plants to make organic paint, I have used the fruit of the wide leaf or banana yucca to make paint.

I'm not sure if there's much of a tradition of painted pottery here in Missouri but I know monarda sometimes called wild oregano for it's smell, which I believe is a cousin of the rocky mountain bee balm, grows here which may be a decent option. It certainly doesn't have the smell issue I imagine it would just make the house smell like an Italian restaurant. Additionally, I would guess honey/black locust beans would work similar to the mesquite since they are distant cousins and have very similar seeds. Do you know if tannin content has anything to do with the resulting pigment? I know some guys who do vegetable tanning locally and they use black walnut hulls or sumac teas to get the necessary tannins for the hides which stains the hide a dark brown black and I believe mesquite has a pretty good amount of tannins in it as well.

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

Monarda appears to be in the mint family so not too closely related to Bee Weed. Still many plants will work so give it a shot. I do know some people who made organic paint from black locust beans but I can't remember if I heard how well it worked out. As far as I know tannins are not an important ingredient. Another popular bee weed substitute is wild sunflowers which I imagine you have out there.

@davidpritchett855

Жыл бұрын

@@AncientPottery we do have wild sunflowers, both saw tooth as well as Jerusalem artichoke which is in the same family. I will have to look into both.

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Can i use play sand for temper?

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

Usually, but it does depend a bit on the minerals in the sand. If there is calcium, for example limestone, then it could cause pops if fired over 820 C

Andy, I'm going back to this video, since I have a pot I'm actually proud of and want to do some organic paint on. I've had decent results with my organic paint before, made from California wildflowers lol, but this time I'm afraid I've burnt it a bit. Not totally burnt, but definitely more than usual and stuck to the bottom of the pan. I rehydrated it, and it did turn into a semi resin, but I'm not sure if it will still work due to the fact that it's partly burnt already. What do you think? ...any advice is appreciated

@AncientPottery

7 ай бұрын

Hmm, I'm not sure. I don't think burning the paint will effect it's value. I burned it before and still used it, have you seen this video? kzread.info/dash/bejne/hZyOyNqsZpDgfKQ.html

@GrannyGooseOnYouTube

7 ай бұрын

@@AncientPottery yes! Just found it....went ahead and used the stuff....seems to be fine in application... I must have caught it just in time. Thanks andy!

Hey Andy, since what you are doing essentially is concentrating sugars, It made me wonder if Honey, which humans have harvested for several thousand years, might make a good organic paint ingredient? It would have been available in areas where mesquite doesn't grow.

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

Honey bees are not native to North America. So while I agree that honey would probably make a good paint, it was not being used around here in prehistoric times.

@SmorgusBorg

Жыл бұрын

@@AncientPottery Interesting. I have read that the Aztecs and Mayans had honey, but didn't realize it was so limited to those south American regions.

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

@@SmorgusBorg Not sure where the Aztecs were getting honey without honey bees

@SmorgusBorg

Жыл бұрын

​@@AncientPottery The Species, Melipona beecheii, it is a stingless bee native to Central America, Yucatan. A search for Mayan Honey, turns up several articles.

I work at a golf course in Florida and found some dark gray clay. I've been watching a bunch of your videos to help me do something with it. Is dark gray clay uncommon or is it just uncommon in your area?

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

No, we have quote a bit of grey clay around here, some of it is so dark it is almost black. That is usually caused by organic matter in your clay, that will burn out in the fire and leave you with a totally different color.

hey Andy or anyone else who knows.. I'm in southern CA near the coast in Orange County, do you have any idea what plants the natives used out here? I would like to try making my own paint, thanks, great video as always.

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

Sunflower is a popular organic paint plant.

@togrowagarden

Жыл бұрын

@@AncientPottery perfect thanks for the reply, I'll grow some this year!

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Hay hay your channel is very best but tell me in Hindi please

@AncientPottery

6 күн бұрын

I don't speak Hindi. How am I supposed to do that?

I tried to grow it from seed, without a great deal of success. Just getting a foot high and only 10 making it after 40+ germinated.

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

That’s too bad. Wild plants can sometimes be hard to grow.

@markgibsons_SWpottery

Жыл бұрын

make sure the soil doesn't dry out at all... think of it as willow, or bamboo... its always growing near the streams and creeks...

@jamescecil3417

Жыл бұрын

@@markgibsons_SWpottery My main problem was moles.

Why not just boil down corn stalks. Weren't the puebloans' known for growing corn? Doesn't corn syrup make a good black paint?

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

Sure, but probably corn stalks don't have a high percentage of sugar as other things. Then there is tradition, it doesn't always make sense.

@Jared_SW

Жыл бұрын

​@@AncientPottery Just seems more logical to use by-products of farming. Especially in Mesa Verde country. I've found small populations of bee plant, but nothing significant enough to survive harvesting at the quantities needed to produce paint. However a good corn year, maybe even boiling the corn grain much like the mesquite beans?

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

@@Jared_SW I see what you're saying. Sunflowers are a popular and abundant substitute

@Jared_SW

Жыл бұрын

@@AncientPottery I also noticed in a video where you sealed earthenware with lard, and it turned black? Could animal fats be the "organic" in some paints.

@AncientPottery

Жыл бұрын

@@Jared_SW maybe, I have never experimented with that kind of thing. Clint Swink has experimented with all manner of bodily fluids and may have some thoughts on that. In ancient times, animal fats were scarce and precious. Most wild game are very lean.