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Trey shows you how to take your song ideas and turn them into great sounding demos easily using various Toontrack plugins.
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when we record if the tempo is 85 as yours is, we double it make it 170, so the song has more *feel* and its easier to jump to, less space between click, keeps it tighter
@EricJaegerMusic
6 жыл бұрын
As long as it doesn’t get sloppy when you play then that’s awesome. I’m learning music production so I love people’s tips
@SKATE87410
3 жыл бұрын
@@EricJaegerMusic I usually double up the tempo on slow things like that too
@joojie_boojie581
2 жыл бұрын
i also do that when making my songs, i put it into double time or set the metronome in a way where it clicks 8 times in a bar instead of four. really helps me play less sloppy especially on slower songs
@themeat8624
Жыл бұрын
I second this, it's way easier as a drummer to play to 170 than it is for 85.
Those keyboards bother me
@DanielRutter
7 жыл бұрын
Same. Organ sounds ass.
@buminbeer2
7 жыл бұрын
I have played keyboards for 30 years, it sounded too stiff and the organ is not great at all. Maybe a B3 sound, but I think this needs a killer analog Juno 106 type pad, some brass for accent and a 16th note solo arpeggio over the main part. Maybe I over think things :)
@lewis1305
7 жыл бұрын
Could've been cool if he didn't match the last part of that riff to the guitar
@zombiesateourchannel
4 жыл бұрын
But it's EZKeys.
@leightaft7763
4 жыл бұрын
This whole thing bothers me
"Just a skoach" Mate what did you just say
@JamesDeal1982
7 жыл бұрын
Andrew Baena Do you even Skoach bro?
@porphyrichemophilia7405
6 жыл бұрын
Skosch*
@95TurboSol
6 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, Musicians use this term all the time "Hey sound guy can you turn up my monitor a skoach?" I hear it all the time
@Davidchromatic
6 жыл бұрын
You guys don't even know where that originally came from. It's from a movie..
@Psychoyouth
6 жыл бұрын
Yes it's from "An American hippie in Israel" kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqqGstKvhtjWp7Q.html You have to see the movie to understand it.
You pretty much went over my workflow that I discovered myself after years of trial and error, acquiring various software (still looking for a killer software amp sim), and research. Don't sleep on this, kids. It may be a little heavy on the Toontrack stuff, but the basic concepts still apply. This is how you do it. I wish I had this video years ago. And the fact of the matter is, EZ Mix seems to make it, well, easy.The only thing maybe worth mentioning, to play off what you said about recording with a drum track (though might be overkill for simple demo recording), is additional instrument order. I find i tend to get the best results recording in the traditional order after you have the ideas down: Drums -> bass -> rhythm guitar -> lead guitar -> vocals. Having a solid, steady foundation seems to make it much easier for me to lock in those leads (and even rhythm guitar) with less takes and frustration.
@treyxaviermusic
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Yeah, once you've got the ideas down, actually tracking them is another thing entirely. Although I usually go drums - rhythm guitar - bass, just because the rhythm guitar to me is the meat of the song around which everything else revolves, and I have to make the basslines work around that, and I can't personally record bass when there's only drums. But that's me.
A really in depth view of your workflow. Very similar to my own, but I saw some tools and learned a bit more about the mastering stage that I needed to see. Thanks for this!
@treyxaviermusic
6 жыл бұрын
+Chad Blackmon no problem homes, happy to help
Feels like a 25mn ad for Toontrack software. OH WAIT
tap tempo bro!!
Awesome video, i love seeing other peoples work flow.
These are some good ideas for making song structure. I think for the most part it can set it up to give your other musicians in the band what you may want and then use the actual musicians to execute the parts. I'm not a big fan of the sound of the vocal microphone that was used to make this, but it's a demo. Thank you for sharing. I do like the sound of your guitar for this type of music though and a nice job playing it. I'm curious to know what this would sound like if this was recorded to tape on separate tracks. I give this a thumbs up.
Glad it's not just me having the issue with the click tracks and re-recording guitars. Happens to me EVERY time.
Awesome - very inspiring! We all work differently when creating and tech sometimes get in the way. How you solve this is enlightening.
Never realized the importance of a pop filter until I watched this
@AionCB23
6 жыл бұрын
Dude... just thought of something similar. Not criticizing, but helps to learn you REALLY need one.
You cant use piano chords like power chords on guitar... That was like the most unfunctional harmony Ive ever seen
@counterweight320
5 жыл бұрын
Why not?
@dRibbs808
4 жыл бұрын
@@counterweight320 there's too much going on. The notes in the chords are competing with each other. It'd be better to just play single notes with it's octaves layered on it.
thanks trey! I'm a beginner trying to set up home recording studio and compose....this vdo helped to know few imp things.... thanks again 🤘
i didnt realize how easy it was to just copy, paste and delete your guitar sound! i am completely new to recording and was under the impression you really had to be ready for a long haul once you hit record. i have been goofing around with recording for the last few months on and off. it was very challenging at first but i have been to make a few jams out it. im using the free audacity program and connecting my guitar preamp through usb (cave man style). seeing you make all this from scratch was simply amazing! GREAT TUTORIAL
@TheCoolSquare
6 жыл бұрын
Depends what you're doing. For a demo like this, it's absolutely acceptable to record in pieces and use a lot of placeholder stuff just to get ideas down. After all the purpose is just for sharing ideas at a basic level to get feedback or to share with band members. But if you're recording something as a final product, you probably do want to actually record things at once as much as possible so it sounds like an actual performance.
@xDTHx
Жыл бұрын
@@TheCoolSquare if your loop is long enough you can get away with looping it. If its short like the one in the video the looping insanely obvious. If he would have recorded it as an 8 bar loop it would have sounded more natural
Thank you! This is exactly the tutorial I needed!
21:20 - Master Fader! That reminds me, I’m pretty sure Anakin Skywalker was a Master Vader, too.
Keyboard/organ track needs deleting NOW.........
@mynameismaali4955
4 жыл бұрын
Why's that??
This guy named Mike gave me some good advice back in the day. He told me that when I played my demo for people to lie and say that it was someone other than me that was singing/performing. People are more inclined to be honest when the person they are assessing is not present. You might not get an honest response if the person you played the demo for knows it's you on the recording. In attempts to be polite they might not tell you you suck, even if you do.
be me have a laptop, a guitar interface, a guitar and a cheap amp, total under $500 excluding the laptop have no EZmix, no keyboard, no midipad, no bass, no DAW why am i even here fml
@treyxaviermusic
7 жыл бұрын
There are free DAWs out there, plenty of free amp sim plugins, and you can click in MIDI stuff with the mouse until you get a MIDI controller. You can do it!
@lemniscatusofficial
7 жыл бұрын
i do have free DAW but the free amp sims are not quite as good as the EZMix. ive tried a bunch. they have a very unusable ping between input and output.
@vomitoriumbassist
6 жыл бұрын
Hehe! Im about in this same boat.. i have my cheap guitar with updated humbuckers.. my cheap bedroom amp and my pedals i like.. my desktop pc (a couple years old), my interface the scarlet 2i4 which came with ableton live 9, i believe.. i then bought EZdrummer 2, with a deal on 2 plugin packs, made of metal, and Matt Halpern’s pack.. just learning through ableton.. its fun, but it will take some time.. this is my first attempt at recording.. and will be sticking with it.. any nice tutorials, podcast recommendations, websites etc. would be cool.. Probably going to get a couple more toontrack plugins when i get the money to..
@ronnieeuda
6 жыл бұрын
It's like I wrote this comment. I'm doing the exact same thing. Let's keep our work up! :) We have to start somewhere...
@cesarr2349
6 жыл бұрын
Track without any FX. Move the recorded part to a track with the FX enabled. Presto
Thank you for the tips and work flow - Great Job and Great Video.
You look like if Fluff was related to Shay Carl.
@tombradypack5825
6 жыл бұрын
Rogertron 85 I clicked on this video thinking it was Fluff lol
Pro Tip: In Pro Tools you can tap the tempo by pressing the "t" key while the tempo change menu is open.
@treyxaviermusic
7 жыл бұрын
yeah I may have forgotten about that one in the heat of the moment hahaha
@noompsieOG
Жыл бұрын
You can also just tap the tempo section in reaper in the time you need to use east as
dude that was wicked! well done Trey :)
@treyxaviermusic
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks homes!
@DreadfulDrummer
7 жыл бұрын
Wicked feckin dirty
@GigglingDickhead
7 жыл бұрын
*holmes
Hey i like your process, very realistic. Thanks for the video
Thanks for putting this up. Very helpful to a first timer like me.
totally helpful...it kind of alternative way to making demo in low budget.. negative comments toward making a demo out of this technique im sure all of u have all the high end equipment in your inventory or studio...as for me.. this is more than enough consider as a home studio..
Great video deffinatly rewatching this when I start on my next project, not a fan of the keys but it's your intro tune man
Awesome video! I've never seen Ez Mix or Ez Keys in use. It looks super cool.
Super helpful, thanks Trey!
Nice video! Thanks for the input
Thank you very much. This video is so helpful
Why do you mix with the click track on ? :P
@mattdavis9331
6 жыл бұрын
irok75 because he loves bad habits.
@gtizzle101
6 жыл бұрын
Why is this a bad habit?
@flatterswhite
3 жыл бұрын
@@gtizzle101 It's also a good idea to not solo tracks when mixing
This was cool... and about where im at.. except at a lot worse, because im just starting and dont have much gear.. but would love to learn how to record.. cool little vid man... thanks!
Man you got your voice on point! Great stuff!
That was awesome, i would give everything for that gear you have, ezdrummer, ez mix, axe fx, kiesel 7 string, nice bass, and everything else ....
Awesome video thank you for the info
Trey: *takes an hour to record an intro* Me: *Feeling better taking 3 hours to make a whole song*
@treyxaviermusic
3 жыл бұрын
Only 3 hours? I’ve spent weeks on one song - the correct length of time is however long it takes to get it right!
@yitzieb
4 ай бұрын
Takes me 3 hours to get a single riff down.
I know this is an older video, but was hoping you could answer a question. When you used EZDrummer and put in your own kicks using the pad, how did you select only the kick midi in the velocity line? How were you able to not select any of the othe midi notes? Thanks for the tutorial.
@treyxaviermusic
4 жыл бұрын
Click the note in the piano roll
I’d love to see how much would be involved to turn this into a finished project instead of just a demo. Great video!
I know you usually usually use electric guitar but i'm really having trouble getting the acoustic guitar to fit in the mix. It sounds off no matter what I do. Could it be that I record it in my room ?
That first organ chord hit me with some Goonies vibes.
How much would all the equipment and programs cost to do this? Minus the guitar. This video blew my mind
Thanks for this awesome video.
Nice tutorial man! Quick question, what software do you use to make the tutorials? I am having to do some software tutorials for work and was going to use OBS studio. Any suggestions? By the way, it was really informative to see someone else's creativity at work, I wish more people had your patience, editing ability and willingness to show others your work and expose yourself to some of the dipwad comments out there. I, for one, really appreciate it!
Hey Trey, I wanna get a little midi pad to adjust midi drums easier but I don't need anything to flashy. What's the midi pad you're using or do you have other recommendations?
@treyxaviermusic
7 жыл бұрын
The one I'm using is the IK Multimedia iRig Pads, it's crazy easy to use, very portable, and pretty cheap. It's also the only one I've owned, so I don't have any good suggestions for other ones to try unfortunately. But there are a few on the market.
Great video. Demo tastic. I would have done a tweak to the "to" vocal. Mute the original vocal, copy it to another track and manually select the peak of the blown "to" and edit/lower the gain on the peak about 10db. You will hear the "to" perfectly without the breath and pop.
@alexnasla
7 жыл бұрын
hmm, why copy it to another track just to tweak the gain on it? Why not just use automation?
The camera sound is better tahn the recording with the mic... :D seriosly!! No post-processing needed! Its now my ringtone man \m/
I know this is really old but for me it was super interesting and helpful. ...also Dmin -> D# -> Dmaj is a pretty crazy chord progression! haha
What if i dont had a keyboard or a pad for the drums? can I use my keyboard??? and if I dont have a bass can I modify the minidata from the guitar to make it sound like a bass???
@lukasnieder
7 жыл бұрын
Waldo Torres yes but for the bass I'd recommend you to buy the zoom g1on it has a bass guitar effect
Awesome vid. Thanks.
Interesting. I need to submit a song demo to a record label but I’m unsure what to do yet.
the way you were going, i thought you would include the click track in the final mix...
I love all your catchphrases
Interesting. Well done to illustrate a quick scratch idea
this was fun to watch
Nice no latency (or very unnoticeable).. what recording interface are you using?
I wonder how the new MacBook Pros would handle all this software.. trey how's the latency on recording guitars?
Sir in regards to EzDrummer 2 how are you exporting that into your DAW to where you can manipulate the midi notes like you did to add bass drum notes? When I try to export it simply exports as a audio file not Midi- thanks!
@MrKylederp
7 жыл бұрын
Belt Fed Riffs & Gear you open EzDrummer in your DAW and then you record midi to play it. It's not a standalone program
@JamesDeal1982
7 жыл бұрын
Kyle Ganger It is standalone actually. But yes you can also open it in your DAW and change the midi notes (drum hits) like you said
Very Townsend vocals!
@followfornothing
7 жыл бұрын
EsotericFallacies Reminded me of Dee Snider.
What are the Pickups in your Guitar? Are they Stock Kiesel Pickups?
So is your guitar hooked up to a box than to the cpu? Im trying to learn and my biggest problem now is using vst to make my effect sound decent. I actually gave up and started hooking my amp direct to my box so i can use the amps effects but there is to much latency.Id love to just be able to click a button like Merrow (LOVE) and hear it sound beast right away. also do i need special speakers? I have a basic cpu speaker set up with subwoofer. When I was using my amp I would do guitar-amp-audiobox-cpu and was using studioone. I also have ezdrummer 2. Im thinking about getting ez mix based on your video. thanks m8! any tips would be great!
@dickdanson
7 жыл бұрын
Audio interface
Are you just using like a focusrite interface into pro-tools?
bang on right, recording to a click track then adding drums later - basically you have to resort from scratch.
stupid question but is your guitar going through an interface or is it hooked right to the computer? im new to recording
@Zuperniakiwyd
7 жыл бұрын
interface. The DI signal is processed by the amp sims on the computer. Check out the Focusrite 2i2.
This was a great demo of demos! I use “EZ” too. You kept apologising in a way for your work, “I know it sounds generic now but i’ll Spruce it up later”. Dude, it sounded great, I know this was a few years back but you gotta show confidence man. If it sounds good to you it sounds good to us! Especially with how easy it is.
Superb video, this is god tier advice.
Also what is that midi pad, my alkai mpk2 sucks with it’s pads
That organ synth really fucks me up fam.
Replace the pipes with synthetic keys or just raw grand piano .believe me you'll love
This is pretty much exactly how I write songs. Neato
can you show your mixing technique for this demo
I still record my demos on a tape recording karaoke machine.
I wonder if we are kicking out to gear gods?
BOOM! Sounds like music already.......
im not a big fan of what you did with the keys, but i get the point...personally i would have placed it further "behind" the mix and drop that volume way lower then everything else...
TREY! got a question, when you added the beat the Sample name had 72BPM, does it automatically sync up to the tempo that you have set for the track in general?
@treyxaviermusic
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's just the BPM it was originally performed at. It's literally just chunks of MIDI so it syncs up.
@SteelsAL
7 жыл бұрын
Cool man, great video! Love love love the channel!
I'm using Reaper - is it that easy to edit the drums using that as you did here? I'd love to be able to make my drum kicks match my guitar like that. Right now I have to do it the other way around with whatever EZD2 beats I find are closest to what I want.
@eirikbevektg3244
7 жыл бұрын
cam507 you can edit them, just doubleclick the drumtrack
Ah cool! In my vids lately, I found Krystal Media Audio Engine freeware 99 multi-tracks with EQ, reverb, (not like Urs, Damn!) and Acoustica BeatCraft cheap drum maker a long time ago but thinking of upgrades maybe?? \m/
Chuckled at "Doom Tempos" simply because I just started a song at 54 BPM...and I fucking love Doom Metal!
That was pretty interesting. I enjoyed it :D
could you do more of this please?
very inspiring. thanks
Hello fellow Trey! I think you are amazing! Have a great day
Reminds me of the Angry Nintendo Nerds theme tune on his channel.Thanks for sharing your secrets.
@redscreen5976
5 жыл бұрын
You mean angery video game beard?
What softwareAnd website isThe guy using To make his demos
wooooooahh.. you smashed it dude!!
As you play through both the real amp and the software , have you ever felt any kind of latency or something like that through the software???
@treyxaviermusic
7 жыл бұрын
I don't have any latency problems, but I have a fast thunderbolt interface and I have the buffer set really low.
lol this demo sounds better than anything I've ever recorded lol
My producer and friends recommended that I'd leave a few mistakes on the demo to inspire the music producers of the labels and to get their attention; so I did and am almost sure that it's one of the best music demos in the world because it shows a lot of versatility artistically and I demonstrate my willingness to change and adapt to my fans and environment and to have them grow with me. My first demo was way to intimidating and did't leave much for the imagination. If I don't land a deal in the next few years I'm going to sell it to another artist as an album and just start over. Thank you...
Say I wanted to release a full album all recorded and tracked like this Ezmix ez drummer and all that stuff Since I’m just a guitarist with no other musician friends as I wanted to put this out on Bandcamp Would it still be called a demo???
@manny3095
5 жыл бұрын
You can call it whatever you want
@sleepinggiant333
4 жыл бұрын
That would be an album, in my opinion. I may be biased though, as I am doing the exact same thing Haha. I'm a guitarist recording a full length "album" by myself.
@carlsainz5332
4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Sun me too bro
What's a guitar name is that beauty please!?
Excellent!
Tats gold, thanks!
What mixing software are u using? The one you record your guitar in! It's not ez mix!
@treyxaviermusic
5 жыл бұрын
Pro Tools
Thanks Trey
What pads are thoose?
What's the name of the program?
hey guy, great job
Hey, I like this kind of video.