The Steward Of Gondor forges his armor before his last battle. (Colourised)

I love how he takes us into the details of it and what it was like instead of just telling us he shows us. There needs to be more things like this from historians

@qus.9617

4 жыл бұрын

Experimental archeology. Check out Irving Finkel's videos from The British Museum or Tom Scott youtube channel. He shows people how to write cuneiform.

Everytime I see Jason in his videos I always see a young Stewart of Gondor, but with love for rediscovering his Middle Earth roots

@casperthodsen5881

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@stupendouspineapple

5 жыл бұрын

Steward*

@gaiusjuliuscaesar7761

5 жыл бұрын

Oh my god yes! Thought that the first video I saw

@rogerexwood6608

4 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Hewitt Hail Jason,, son of Ecthelion 😆

@VladStValentine

4 жыл бұрын

No hate, I legitimately love that you thought Denethor's title was his name. I now wish it had been Stewart of Gondor, with a quaint British accent. "'Allo! Stewart 'ere. Right, now which one of you gents is the king?"

I love these blacksmith videos. When I was a kid, after I went through the "I want to be an astronaut" phase, I went through a "I want to be a blacksmith" phase 😆And to be honest I still harbor that dream. One of these days I'll get myself an anvil, but they are indeed difficult to find. Also you should definitely do a pottery/ceramic video! It's honestly a bit of an art hidden in plain sight. I've been able to create oil lamps (vegetable oil of course) out of nothing more than gravelly dirt, by using natural methods to filter out the clay, and then firing it in a fire pit, which does indeed get up to the proper temperature if you use small enough cuts of wood

It's always a treat to watch someone who knows their trade at work. Whether it's a smith, a tailor or a chef, there's a fluidity and economy of movement to it that only comes of years of practice... poetry in motion!

Now, after watching the sword making video and being halfway into this one, do I realise that my dad would love this and I could've watch them with him. 🤦‍♀️ He's a blacksmith and history is one of the things we bond over.

12th century combat mentality: we need swords and metal armor 17th century combat mentality: we need some winter coats and cannons

@MrChet407

4 жыл бұрын

Metal armor protects from cannons

@TheGungunn101

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrChet407 No it doesn't. The reason people stopped using armored suits was that guns and cannons made them obsolete. There's no reason to wear a heavy suit of armor if a gun will kill you anyway. It's better to be light and mobile.

@TheSevenJr86

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGungunn101 He was being sarcastic.

@dovahkiin2

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGungunn101 i thaught that too, but its actually wrong. Armor could stop fireweapons (there comes the saying bulletproof). The reason it stopped being used is because armies got bigger

@junetalon8796

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGungunn101 You're right if you're talking about 20th century guns. People in plate armour were still fielded in WW1.

Your blacksmithing skill has increased! Your blacksmithing skill has increased! Congratulations! Your blacksmithing skill is now master rank! See your guild master to start your epic tier armour quest!

@Ignisan_66

4 жыл бұрын

Is that from Skyrim?

@b1rdmanjr1000

4 жыл бұрын

Tom Bombadil I believe It’s a World of Warcraft reference.

@wu1ming9shi

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ignisan_66 Heh, you wish it had a quest like that.

What might interest you is, that in regards to craftsmen, in Germany it is still fairly common (as it has been for centuries) for carpenters to travel around the country to learn new skills they might not have learned during their apprenticeship. They are easily recognised by their clothing which is very distinctive and has changed little over the past century or two, though with roots even further back. So, while the clothes might be relatively 'modern' this practice has been around since late mediaeval times since otherwise it would have been impossible for these men to ever become master-craftsmen and have their own business. And oddly enough, in recent years this tradition has become quite popular again after it was in decline for some decades. With that said, this used to be the case with all crafts for the same reason, though to my knowledge only carpenters still do so, but I might be mistaken there. I have, as yet, only ever come across carpenter-journeymen, but that quite often. Oh, and until roughly twenty years back, unless you were a master-craftsmen, you still couldn't open a business in any craft and while you didn't need to go on a ramble any longer you could only become a master of a craft after several years of experience, usually around five.

@wolf310ii

5 жыл бұрын

today "real" masters are rare, because you can start with the master right after the apprenticeship and so there are a lot mid twenty "masters" with little experience, these "masters" are more manager than craftsmen

@MrChet407

4 жыл бұрын

Oh like school!?

Haha recently discovered this channel, this guy is living the dream! These videos are better quality and more educational than entire tv channels

@justinhaller569

3 жыл бұрын

Word!

Me: *makes cardboard armor* Also me: you know, I’m somewhat of an armorer myself

@MarcAmengual

4 жыл бұрын

xddd

@combobulous7044

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@darklordvule2841

4 жыл бұрын

Same hahaha the cardboard army for live XDDD

@zainiadnan2335

4 жыл бұрын

Ah finally, representative

@jakupharrison8051

4 жыл бұрын

I'm making card board armor of Jim Lake jr's Eclipse armor from Trollhunters for a convention.

It's my man from Greenleaf Workshop! He has his own KZread channel which is absolutely awesome.

@toompyfloyd4074

4 жыл бұрын

i didnt realize who he was until he started talking!

@bobvines00

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, subscribe to his channel!

@GreenleafWorkshop

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. :)

@SuperFunkmachine

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dron/iaOdgnpP0PQ1lofmAHUhrA.html

@brianbooda

3 жыл бұрын

He has the best tutorials on armor making! I've learned so much from greenleaf.

always respect a blacksmith their knowledge & skill require years of practice & observation its an art yet require strength (hammering) back in the day

@LordFrito

3 жыл бұрын

I'm learning blacksmithing. Been taking classes the past year and watching all kinds of videos to absorb all the knowledge I can

@LuqmanMal

3 жыл бұрын

@@LordFrito do your best sir 👍

@sharonr2121

3 жыл бұрын

crazycoleton, hallo! Although this is unrelated to the topic of your comment, God loves you, and He died for you as Jesus Christ! Please turn entirely to Him while you still can, because time is running out, but don’t be afraid! Have a good day!

I blacksmith and bladesmith so I can see how and why the plates are moved that way and I would still find making any piece of armour quite a daunting prospect, I love the reference to a breastplate being mangled till its not..so many things look like that as you work them (especially when drawing out) Its the difference between blacksmith and Farrier, wheelwright and cooper, there are similarities but the detailed skill set is incredibly varied. Fascinating stuff. I would love to see more.

This is art: it's like making a sculpture on a body, following the exact body shape of an individual. Way more tricky than even car design, which is based on basic functionalities and only the speed in one direction. It shows here how it is much more a mind and eyes work than hands. If I was not afraid to break my joints, it is a work that I would be enjoyed to do, as plastician artist.

I'm so glad this was in the recommended tab. The quality is absurd, so informative. And while some things may not be entire historically accurate (I mean, your guess is as good as any), just hypothesizing around it, and talking/showing is so interesting. I cannot stop watching these for the life of me, and I love it.

@ModernKnight

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

Graham's videos are great. Thank's for doing the collaboration.

He speaks of the steel plate as though it's liquid. I know he sees things I'll never see. A master craftsman.

Another wonderful and informative video,thank you. I know some are older but it doesn’t change the quality. When I have worked with a hammer and anvil it’s interesting how you can tell by the sound how your blows are falling, weather you are spending the metal or bending it. Blacksmithing is a absolute art from.

You go out with a rod and reel - quite early, usually - and then you catch yourself a bunch of medium to fair size knights, using maybe a local virgin or a piece of a dragon for bait. Quick bump on the head with a heavy object - short sharp shock - and they're usually out pretty much right away. Then you peel'um and stack all the scaly bits for later. It's usually best to rinse them off, thoroughly, on the inside, especially if they're fresh out of battle, or some squire left them stewing, horseback, in the noon-day sun for too long. If you are fortunate enough to come upon one of the latter on your own, they're usually rather dazed and confused and pretty easy to dispatch. Ever so often you can walk right up to them, bash'um and clean'um right there. The useless bits you can just discard or use to bait more dragons for knight-bait - in that sense it's the gift that keeps on giving. Just watch out for the spare squires, some of them pack a fairly mean punch if you let them catch you unawares, although generally they're one-trick homies. So - when you have a nice pile of clean metal bits, you simply super glue them to yourself in no particular order - it's a personal expression we're after not some standard, run of the mill setup. FInd your own voice. You own metallic voice - clangy and jangly as it may be. If it's you it's you and you should learn to appreciate and make the best of that and usually the crowd will follow. That's it really. You can stick a feather or potted plant or carefully excavated mole hill on there if you like, just for an effect, but it's all down to personal taste really. Lakes with swords sticking out of them - don't bother, it's usually too involved to get into and not worth the hassle.

@kylereece1735

5 жыл бұрын

whynottalklikeapirat I don’t understand. Please explain

@whynottalklikeapirat

5 жыл бұрын

@@kylereece1735 I am describing the process of how to make yourself a suit of armour, in answer to the title of the video. Go ahead and try it out.

@kylereece1735

5 жыл бұрын

whynottalklikeapirat what about when you say you catch yourself a bunch of knights with a fishing rod

@whynottalklikeapirat

5 жыл бұрын

@@kylereece1735 That's how you first get them. Then you pry off the useful outer bits and use the rest to bait dragons. Dragon bits are useful for baiting knight, you can put it on the line and dangle it in front of them. It's irresistable to most. Best time is an hour or two after breakfast, lunch or maybe dinner when they feel rested, confident and energetic. The ones that come out at night - don't bother. They tend to be weird and unpredictable and have this strange smell about them like they live in a confined, subterranean space, like a basement or some such, and don't get out much. They are usually to thin or too fat and just generally feel off. No wholesome reason for them to be out and about at such an hour ... When I sit in hiding with my rod and reel and wait for knight - I like to listen to stuff like that old Joe Cocker Live version of "when the knight comes", that disco thing "Knight fever" or the whole "on the Knight" album by Sting. "A knight at the opera" by Queen is good too. It's just to keep myself motivated, so personal preference. I listen on my headphones of course and you need the well isolated ones so you don't startle them or make them suspicious so they won't charge in. They can be a little frisky, especially the juveniles.

@kylereece1735

5 жыл бұрын

whynottalklikeapirat haha ok

Fantastic. Thank you so much. I am embarking on making armour and chain mail for 12 inch dolls for a medieval scene I am working on, as one does over Easter! It has given me great insights. 👍

i would love to see more videos with Graham.

Thank you for bringing us this channel.

Fantastic show, I love every single episode!

Given that much of the craft of metalwork was a trade secret, I wonder whether there were systems of measurement that were commonly used that have been lost to history.

I love this vivid and sensual and practical approach to the subject.

This one of the more fascinating videos. Please, give us more on armorers! It's not a lost art, but rather rare, instead.

Me and my mom were recently wondering how the ring-armour was made. I mean, the one that is made of LOTS of joined rings, and goes under the plate armour.

@Eowyn3Pride

4 жыл бұрын

Chainmail?

@Schattendragonfly

4 жыл бұрын

@@Eowyn3Pride Yes, that's the thing. I didn't know the name you gave so I googled it and that is what I meant, thanks :)

@Sakkehattu

4 жыл бұрын

​@@Schattendragonfly​ Get metal wire -> bend it around a circular pole, so it forms into rings -> cut the rings apart -> flatten the ends of the rings -> link the rings together -> rivet the 2 ends of each ring together. That's it in in a simple, short from. Here's a video that shows it step-by-step: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qKiHxNFveNzcZdo.html

Being an armourer was certainly an important trade. And low to medium grade armour was available and less expensive. High end armour was fitted and hand made and was expensive. Presentation armours were hand made but never destined for combat. Armour was important as both art and craft.Great video.

Very nice. This is so interesting to watch. Really great presentation!

Love your videos. Thanks for sharing your passion with us.

This was great! I wouldn't mind watching you do this for the whole suit of armor

3:10 I actually wanted to know the other 2 ways you became a blacksmith.

Aah sweeping the floor, trades have not changed that much over so many years

Beautiful to watch a craftsman like this at work

Enjoyed seeing this, thanks for doing it. I had an uncle who did blacksmith work here in the U.S. but nothing like armor, mostly farm implements.

Loved watching this.

@ModernKnight

5 жыл бұрын

crystalheart9 Thank you! Glad you're enjoying it!

Great! Thanks for this!

Genuine question but did medieval armourers actually start making plate armour from what was already a steel sheet or was it just a lump of steel that they had to flatten out first? I mean these days I would guess the modern day armourer would just pop down to his local steel supplier and but whatever gauge of steel he needs to work from.

@thesleepingpower

5 жыл бұрын

there are drawings of sheet metal rollers from Da Vinci's notebooks dated ~1480, with the first description of a sheet metal "rolling mill" showing up a few years later. The early designs were powered by water wheels, and so that means that most smiths probably had their sheet metal delivered from a riverside mill that specialized in making steel sheets. Prior to that, they probably still delegated the tedious work of hammering billets into bars or sheets to their apprentices because human nature being what it is, what skilled artisan wants to do all the hard work themselves? www.metalworkingworldmagazine.com/a-short-sheet-metal-history/

@marcdedouvan

5 жыл бұрын

​@@thesleepingpower exact and not for lazy reason: like for cymbals, the rolling process gives a particular grain in microscopic structure, giving more resistance to hits: it creates breaks in structure which anihilate too pure vibrations. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eGam2rCwicbZfps.html Moreover, cymbals imitate antique oriental shield meant to repel arrows and spears, not reverse. The use as war instrument itself is inspired by the hiting of soldiers in pace by their weapon to show their number and frighten the enemy until immemorial times (bronze age is prehistoric even in Britain). That sort of shield was still used by the turks, at the age of cannons and riffles like the janissaries, who play also cymbals, the first, on battlefield. Modern official reconstitution: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dmR628hvY9Svj6g.html the shield was tied in the back to protect cavaliers from arrows when fleeing ambush.

@GreenleafWorkshop

4 жыл бұрын

At the moment the general concensus seems to be that they would have bought plate ready to go and sometimes even partially formed (depending on the size of the armourer's business and time period). Creating consistant, large sheets of steel is an art in itself. :)

@elizabethjansen2684

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcdedouvan absolutely fascinating

What an amazing channel. Thank you sir for your amazing videos.

@ModernKnight

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy our work, thanks for the positive support!

Hence the expression. "Going at it hammer and tongs" Making the sheet stock would have been a crafts all in its own.

you know it will be a good video when it starts with tea

A suit of armour made specially made for me? A big dream

@maximilianfranz2158

5 жыл бұрын

Aah, it's a shame these dreams are ridiculously expensive.

@GreenleafWorkshop

4 жыл бұрын

Quite pricey for bespoke suits. But sometimes not as expensive as you might think and they can be built up over years. :)

I love these videos, just found your channel this morning. WELL DONE!!!

I appreciate the most the videos about the professions. How much time does it take to finish an armor, to copy a book, to make some tapestry in medieval times? Please keep up creating these great documentations!

Very educational. Thank you.

@ModernKnight

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

if there’s a zombie outbreak, I would like to team up with this guys

"Just plonk 'im onto here. Give 'im a stout tap right here, yeah like that, a couple of whallops" Being this Guys apprentice must be one heck of an experience

I was thinking how it's similar to tailoring in fundamentals. Your taking a flat thing, and turning it into a 3D piece by piece curvy thing that has movement and functionality. 😁❤👍

You become an apprentice by not drinking tea in front of the boss

good to know there are still medieval craftsmen

I would gladly pay for this quality program

Excellent as allways big yin 😁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Graham, you are my hero. Definitely had to see this. Missed it back in the days and now I'm catching up. Thanks for all your practical lessons and wisdoms. You're the best!

if those little taps shape that armor i cant stop imagining what a battle axe will do to shape it

@user-vz7mu4su9n

5 жыл бұрын

Moral of the story: don't wear an anvil under your armour.

@milky6191

4 жыл бұрын

It would be hardened after the shape is formed so it wouldn't be this soft

@catzkeet4860

4 жыл бұрын

those "little taps" are before the steel is tempered and hardened, and are neccessary. Theyre making armour, which has to be a specific shape and size. Theres no point in whalloping away at it, other than at the very start while roughing out the shape. From then on its precision that counts. It would be pretty hard to shape steel that was already hardened so heat is used to anneal the metal and make it workable. Then cooling in a specific way will harden the steel to the requirements of the smith, and THAT is one of the great mysteries of the Smith....knowing when and HOW to quench his metal to achieve the temper he needs for a specific purpose.

Apart from the weight, other restrictions of a suit of armor are joint articulation and how well the parts are tailored to fit the wearer.

I was initially surprised that the hinged side would be on the outside, subject to the most abuse. The only explanation I can come up with (thank you Churchill) is that the fastenings are even more vulnerable, say leather straps and buckels.

I wish i knew how to smith, this is so cool

@elizabethjansen2684

3 жыл бұрын

There are still blacksmithing classes if you look for them.

Really interesting.

Jason, when are you going to get your company, Rebellion, to make a medieval sword fighting game? It would be awesome!

10:52 Ah yes indeed the cooter.

I just thought of this - blacksmiths or amours had to think in three d...although they didn't call it that then.

Excellent channel good work sir

@ModernKnight

4 жыл бұрын

thanks

The reference to the greenleaf workshop's website misses an "n" in the description.

This is SO much different from what they show in movies and such with the smith whacking the metal so hard it seems that he could almost cause an earthquake. lol

With this knowledge we shall go on a new crusade

Loved it, what a great guy!

Alas, Sir Anthony of Stark hath built this within a cavern! with a casket of trickets!

Please do a video on Shardplate and Shardblades now that the Desolation is here

Amazing videos please keep them up!

I wanted to see where the metal plates came from or how it was made back then.

*"Yeah"* _Jason Kingsley OBE, 2018_

Very well-made video again. :-)

@jasonkingsley2762

6 жыл бұрын

oxysoxos thanks, we recorded a lot more, as graham and I can chat for hours!

I live in the north of england, is it possible for one to learn smithing in their own time? I would love to have this skill in my hands and to escape the modern world and the 9-5

@GreenleafWorkshop

4 жыл бұрын

Check out David Hewitt at White Rose Armouries. He taught me over a few years. I also teach one off courses at West Dean College down south.

"If you speak to half a dozen armourers, you'll get a dozens ways of taking measurements". Sounds to me like they're quite proficient.

How long would it take to get a rod of steel to look like your starting product though. It must take quite a lot of skill to get steel flat like that, without damaging it. Especially if you consider that medieval steel probably had more impurities in it on average

So you've talked a bit about how someone in medieval times might've become an armourer, but I'd like to know how Graham and others got into doing it! Is it a family path? Was it just something that started as a hobby? Do they have "regular" jobs (and what are they?) or does armouring bring in enough that you don't need another primary job? Also what was that place (or was it places?) that you mentioned? I couldn't quite make it out. I'm so intrigued!

@GreenleafWorkshop

4 жыл бұрын

Give me a shout iver on my channel. This is a video I've been meaning to make for a while. I'll try and do it soon.

love your channel!

Imagine how much daggers you have to forge first in order to become this good.

@zackgreen7380

4 жыл бұрын

*horse shoes

@zackgreen7380

4 жыл бұрын

and hooks, and scribes, but no daggers.

@burawea3551

4 жыл бұрын

@@zackgreen7380 I'm not sure, but I think this is a skyrim reference

@zackgreen7380

4 жыл бұрын

@@burawea3551 the pros use Elvin bows to level up 😎😎

So is there no, or little gapping for clothing to keep someone warm while inside the armor?

@ModernKnight

5 жыл бұрын

Historically you wear a ‘strongly built’ doublet over linen shirt underneath this sort of armour.

If you close your eyes... imagine it's Joe Wilkinson talking 😂

So a question: in this the smith starts with plate metal. For armor, or tools like saw blades, how did Medieval people go from a chunk of smelted iron to good sized flat plate metal with the tools available? For example how would a big flat plate for a saw blade for a water-powered sawmill be created? I’m guessing that’d be too big to just hammer flat like a smaller plate? Got me thinking…saw blades for a mill is actually a non-trivial bit of technology.

@ModernKnight

2 жыл бұрын

making plates and bar was a different industry often done with water powered hammers.

You want a design similar to the rogue cuirass or steel merc cuirass. Shoulders are important for movement

@ModernKnight

Жыл бұрын

I tend to look at historical examples as a primary source.

I am curious as to just what was the hammer scale used for that made it valuable?

@ModernKnight

2 жыл бұрын

grinding and polishing things.

@Jagdtyger2A

2 жыл бұрын

@@ModernKnight Thanks, I have done black smithing and blade smithing but never thought about using scale as rouge

If...some one wanted an armourer to build him a suit , would armourers "only" make a harness that is purely historic in design?

@jasonkingsley2762

6 жыл бұрын

rubberdc in my experience most will make whatever you want, though they usually have long waiting lists, often over a year or more.

@TheMichaellathrop

5 жыл бұрын

No there are plenty of armorers who are generally considered more sport than historical, and of course if you want have any artistic expression your self you will end up deviating somewhat from the historical pieces.

@GreenleafWorkshop

4 жыл бұрын

I've built somebfantasy pieces for people. It just takes time and figuring out. Sometimes you need to be historically grounded so it will fit and move. But the rest is iften just decoration and style changes.

This is the first time I've heard someone describe a human arm as a banana

Just wondering how they make the sheet metal plates for the armor.not founded yet.

@ModernKnight

11 ай бұрын

professional hammerers, it was a separate profession often done with water powered hammers.

I need those 2 stakes...

quick question: is it cold forging? or? is cold forging armour better?

@ModernKnight

3 жыл бұрын

all the armourers I know work mostly with heat.

"Its just like a Bananna"..

How did they get the sheet metal in the first place?

Ya breastplates are just a mangled mess tell there not, I don't know why that makes me laugh I think it falls into the category of it's funny cause it's true.

Armor pieces were likely made with the help of anvils and other metal formations (like these 5:07, 8:34) But how did they make those things in the first place, and did they even exist back then? How is an anvil made in medieval times?

@RhodokTribesman

2 жыл бұрын

A team of guys hammering it into shape with dies or a mill hammer most likely. Same thing for the plates of steel used to make the armor

Very curious how much of that smithing was done cold.

@ModernKnight

Жыл бұрын

quite a lot of it, though it gets heated up to prevent work hardening on occasions.

This is probably an "out-of-the-blue" question but what was dentil health and overall physical hygiene like in Medieval times?

I don't think they had sheet metal when that style armour was made. If they did, how did they make the sheets??

@ModernKnight

3 жыл бұрын

it was it's ownindustry. sheets were hammered out by hammer men, and coud be varied in thickness to suit the job.

I bet that guy can arm wrestle ....politely of course lol

So whats the different between a smith (black, sword, gun) and an armourer. Because there are firearms armourers as well

@ModernKnight

4 жыл бұрын

Specialisation mostly. Blacksmiths are, arguably, generalists, or were in medieval times for their local community. Silversmiths, goldsmiths, tinsmiths etc. Specialised in specific materials.

@adeladd7638

4 жыл бұрын

In the case of firearms I think armourer is a bit of a misnomer as there is no armour involved,they are in charge of arming people so really armers,but armourer carried over from the past. The construction, maintenance and repair of firearms is done by gunsmiths.

@SuperFunkmachine

4 жыл бұрын

@@adeladd7638 Gun's are a shift from watch makers an most of them used to be jewelers /sliver/tin/goldsmiths. There's a chain of skills that lead to gunsmithing.

While most of us play 2d MMO, He is playing the 3d version.

@mrnarason

4 жыл бұрын

You be role-playing?

What would a medieval peasant wear to battle if he was drafted? If he was a blacksmith would he have been required to fight or would he have been kept in his profession to supply the war effort??