How to make a "Scarf Joint Headstock" for your Cigar Box Guitar

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What "IS" a Scarf Joint you ask...??? A scarf joint is an angled joint between the neck and the headstock. A cut is made through the neck blank at the desired headstock angle and the off cut forms the headstock. Scarf joints are the strongest method of angling headstocks. You can easily reinforce this headstock by adding at least a face plate veneer, which also hides the joint from the front of headstock. To further reinforce and hide the joint an additional back strap veneer can be glued to the back of the headstock. Additionally you can completely enclose the joint by adding headstock ears each side of the nut to completely hide the joint from view.

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  • @tracymcdougal6381
    @tracymcdougal6381 Жыл бұрын

    Nice,I had to look up how the master made the scarf joints.😂😂😂😂

  • @amgauctions29musicgearandm31
    @amgauctions29musicgearandm31 Жыл бұрын

    You have inspired my inner creativity again, Thanks Del !!!

  • @dougc314
    @dougc31410 ай бұрын

    Another use fir those little sheets!, thanks.

  • @genomitchalinni8106
    @genomitchalinni8106 Жыл бұрын

    🎵 Hardwood splinters, in your eyeballs, hurt! Wear Safety glasses. ". 🎶

  • @genomitchalinni8106
    @genomitchalinni8106 Жыл бұрын

    "Sweat on the brow? Much cooler than New Mexico".

  • @tracymcdougal6381
    @tracymcdougal6381 Жыл бұрын

    I gotta try it that way.

  • @sixstring001
    @sixstring0013 жыл бұрын

    Put a piece of wax paper to keep clamps from sticking. To keep from slipping, drive two small nails in one piece and cut nails off, almost flush. The nails barley sticking out will bight in the wood and stop the slipping. Your the best out here. 👍👍👍

  • @charlesmccoy6078
    @charlesmccoy60788 ай бұрын

    Extremely helpful video. I used to watch a KZread channel presented by Moses at Burrell Guitars and he covered different ways to form the headstock. Sad to say that he passed away. He seemed like a great guy. So, again thanks for your dedication to keep making video content. Chuck McCoy from Eastern Kentucky

  • @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    8 ай бұрын

    hey Charles!!! thank you ☺️

  • @avalon3309
    @avalon33093 жыл бұрын

    Sprinkling a little bit of table salt on the glue will help keep that scarf joint from shifting

  • @genomitchalinni8106
    @genomitchalinni8106 Жыл бұрын

    That's a real cool jig, if you plan on making more than one CBG.

  • @tipptoggy
    @tipptoggy Жыл бұрын

    Just a quick note on the scarf angle for the jig . A 14 to 15 degree angle has a Tangent of almost 1/4. So if you draw a right angle triangle with that ratio of 1 to 4 for the opposite and adjacent sides it will be right every time.

  • @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    Жыл бұрын

    smart

  • @alonzofineart2428
    @alonzofineart24284 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the added tip regarding the wings.

  • @SouthernFireGuitars
    @SouthernFireGuitars4 жыл бұрын

    I like that veneer you get in the boxes sometimes, comes in handy for all sorts of CBG stuff.

  • @guitararnie6092
    @guitararnie60923 жыл бұрын

    What a simple, yet brilliant scarf jig. Will use one on my next build for sure. Many thanks for sharing your hard earned knowledge.

  • @kennethbrown818
    @kennethbrown8184 жыл бұрын

    Aaauummm,,read the reviews an no one caught it or made a comment,,,,I'm just saying. Del,you forgot ur safety glasses.., sorry for I'm a old hand at wood working clear back to 1976,,in highschool,,..very nice video tho,I'd never thought about veneer but you know all those tote lids I see on the side of the road, color head stock with plastic.keep up the great work,dark tan OUT

  • @chrisboucher7848
    @chrisboucher78484 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! I'll be making my first scarf joint on my next build! Stoked man. Thanks

  • @lorinthunell4617
    @lorinthunell46173 жыл бұрын

    Del, you are the man! I've always wanted to have a cigar box guitar, so now I have the know how to give it a shot. Thanks from Heber , Utah

  • @genomitchalinni8106
    @genomitchalinni8106 Жыл бұрын

    I used to retrofit old mills and lathes. Convert them to CNC. Sounds like a song, don't it?

  • @douglas_kmg365
    @douglas_kmg3654 жыл бұрын

    That veneer is great stuff to keep handy. I use it mostly for shimming things like bridges and nuts, small gaps around the neck, fret slot filler, you name it.

  • @bobbyleon6243
    @bobbyleon62433 жыл бұрын

    OMG you've made my day with those cedar sheets

  • @ronmiller7916
    @ronmiller79164 жыл бұрын

    I use small cauls wrapped in shipping tape between the wood and the clamp. The glue won't stick to the shipping tape, well, 5% of the time it sticks a little.

  • @eml5086
    @eml5086 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @gamehunter3985
    @gamehunter39853 жыл бұрын

    I never knew it was called a scarf joint. That's the only way I know. I like the idea that your using the thin piece of wood for veneer, that's a good idea, I'll have to start incorporating that into my projects. I'm working on a neck now and I'm using that wood as a inlay, so far so good. I made the design in the shape of leaves and dug out the neck using just a cheap dremel. I shaped the wood using scissors and sandpaper. I usually try not to get fancy, but this one is for someone special. My cigar box supply is getting low and are getting hard to find these days, so I started making my own boxes out of wood that I find on the side of the road. Some of the wood already has designs on them, especially if it comes from antique furniture so that makes things even better and less work for me. I hope everyone knows, once you make your first cigar box guitar, you'll get addicted like I did. I'm at the point I don't know how many I've made over the years. I don't care as long as people get enjoyment out of them. Again, thanks for your video's, you do awesome work.

  • @johntaev4345
    @johntaev43453 жыл бұрын

    What a cool idea

  • @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    3 жыл бұрын

    i stole the idea from KP

  • @genomitchalinni8106
    @genomitchalinni8106 Жыл бұрын

    Great idea to stain the fretboard first before assembly.

  • @tonysansom
    @tonysansom2 жыл бұрын

    Tamar Hannah (3×3 Custom) recommended your channel when she built her CBG. I've really enjoyed watching your work and learned a lot too: I had no idea that a scarf joint was as simple as a single cut! And, yes, I've got the bug 😀

  • @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    2 жыл бұрын

    beware... this is an addicting hobby... your life may never be the same 😫

  • @bobjohnston4325
    @bobjohnston43254 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I veneer my headstock tops with the same veneer. I found that contact cement works great without clamping. I prefer the water based contact cement for less vapors and easier cleanup.

  • @michaeldavid6652
    @michaeldavid66523 жыл бұрын

    great video! I was kind of afraid to try a scarf joint but you make it look not so bad. Gonna give it a shot, on a scrap piece first.....

  • @allanwood3562
    @allanwood35624 жыл бұрын

    Nice one Del, I picked up a couple of handy details there that I won't have to "discover" on my ownsome. Keep well mate.

  • @romainvilleneuve
    @romainvilleneuve4 жыл бұрын

    awesome dude 👍👍👍👍

  • @clawhammer704
    @clawhammer7043 жыл бұрын

    Formica makes for great fretless fingerboards and headstock top cover. I use them when making fretless banjos for old time. Slick as can be..

  • @genomitchalinni8106
    @genomitchalinni8106 Жыл бұрын

    Trademark Glass slides while the getting is good.

  • @Francois_L_7933
    @Francois_L_79334 жыл бұрын

    Since you always use the same angle, you could also make a gluing jig.

  • @stevesstrings5243
    @stevesstrings52434 жыл бұрын

    I built the same jig! It certainly saves time and gives reproducible results! I have some of that same veneer. I think I will try it on a headstock as well!

  • @tylerlee549

    @tylerlee549

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can’t you just build the jig to be an easy 90 degrees and adjust your miter saw angle 13 degrees off square?

  • @stevesstrings5243

    @stevesstrings5243

    3 жыл бұрын

    I suppose you could. Although I am not sure I can consistently set my saw to 13 degrees.

  • @tylerlee549

    @tylerlee549

    3 жыл бұрын

    Steve's Strings hmm, good point!

  • @tomsniff2029

    @tomsniff2029

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do you have plans of the template of the jig

  • @RayHdownUnder
    @RayHdownUnder3 ай бұрын

    Thanks Paul - great explanation using the scarf joint. My question is when do you thin down the head stock from 3/4" thick to the thickness to housing the tuners?

  • @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    3 ай бұрын

    typically when i cut the back angle

  • @jimbucket2996
    @jimbucket29964 жыл бұрын

    What if you have 2 CBGs? Is that still 3 strings too many? Tip if you want to try it: Use contact cement on the veneer and headstock face. Wait until the shine is gone and stick em together. Rub with pressure using a roller or dowel etc. Wait a few minutes to dry. Flip headstock on its face and score around headstock a few times. Flip back over and fold scored edges down with a flat stick. The excess will fall right off. It should take you less than ten minutes. I've done lots of veneer/laminate work. That's how I do it. Make sure you don't buy the fume free stuff and take a few good huffs before you put the lid back on the cement.

  • @jfrankcarr
    @jfrankcarr4 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried more extreme, lute-like, scarf joint angles? I've done a few, mostly 1 or 2 stringers, with 45 and 60 degree angles just to get a different look.

  • @dkehrerproductions
    @dkehrerproductions4 жыл бұрын

    I do all my builds with scarf joints .

  • @larrylawrence1553
    @larrylawrence15533 жыл бұрын

    Does the thickness of the headstock matter with the installation of the tuners? Will the tuners be long enough for the thickness of the headstock? Sorry for the double question, most all the other videos show cutting about an 1/8” off the thickness. I really like your videos, very clear and concise easy for an old man to understand. Keep them coming, oh, I really enjoy listening to you play.

  • @rakridge

    @rakridge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes thickness matters. It's not rocket surgery but they have to fit. If your headstock is the same thickness as your neck. In most cases it will not. I know this was a year ago but someone else might have this question

  • @schullieringer
    @schullieringer3 жыл бұрын

    Trying to figure out how to use such a jig on a regular table saw. Or is that not possible?

  • @ronmiller7916
    @ronmiller79164 жыл бұрын

    Ever try the scarf joint reversed? Where it's hidden under the fretboard? No joint in the middle of the headstock and no need for a veneer to hide it.

  • @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yup... I mentioned it in the video

  • @ronmiller7916

    @ronmiller7916

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@PuckettCigarBoxGuitar yeah, I must be missing it.

  • @ronj5485
    @ronj5485 Жыл бұрын

    but yer saw.. has angle mesurements... why build a jig ?

  • @towpathguitars
    @towpathguitars3 жыл бұрын

    Just tried my first scarf joint. Let the glue soak in a bit, then clamp. Also just a little less glue. Clamped in the middle and I'm set. Do you make the angled part thinner for the tuners like a straight neck?

  • @davidskimin3471
    @davidskimin34714 жыл бұрын

    Hey Del, great video, I made a jig like yours only 15 degree. I found the wood kept tilting on cuts though, meaning the joint edge wasn't straight, had a few kick back moments as well. I finally found that if you mount the jig onto a square 10mm plywood board it gives a steady surface to support the side of the piece your cutting. Davy

  • @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dude!!! Why didn’t I think of that !!?!? Great idea!!!!

  • @duanevigue1603
    @duanevigue16033 жыл бұрын

    Why not cut the scarf joint the other way, into the neck, so you have a whole headstock? Like on a Les Paul?

  • @Juampi1975
    @Juampi19753 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!! Could you tell me how many degrees is the angle to cut??

  • @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    3 жыл бұрын

    Roughly about 13

  • @genomitchalinni8106
    @genomitchalinni8106 Жыл бұрын

    Now, I need to pause your video for a PSA. Tony Iomy, lost his finger in "Wood Shop". Be careful.

  • @TheRedhawke
    @TheRedhawke4 жыл бұрын

    I just put a shake of salt on my glue to keep it from moving.

  • @9jmorrison
    @9jmorrison Жыл бұрын

    There was a neck swap here.

  • @rwbimbie5854
    @rwbimbie58544 жыл бұрын

    Tablesaw Its not just a Saw, its also a Table

  • @simonhopkins3867
    @simonhopkins38674 жыл бұрын

    Miter glue with activator, super glue, brads and PVA... Sorry I'll show myself out. 😉

  • @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    @PuckettCigarBoxGuitar

    4 жыл бұрын

    Too funny... but I dolike the brads idea!!!

  • @ice_n_sticks3431
    @ice_n_sticks34313 жыл бұрын

    Spanish cedar sheets

  • @gmannikonov4250
    @gmannikonov42503 жыл бұрын

    ШЫКАРДОС!!!

  • @scottyonbass4003
    @scottyonbass40033 жыл бұрын

    "I never have problems until I turn the camera on!" Straight, unadulterated application of Murphy's Law! 😄

  • @genomitchalinni8106
    @genomitchalinni8106 Жыл бұрын

    Is that called The Fretboard Jig? Just taking notes, Master of Disaster.

  • @markevans911
    @markevans9114 жыл бұрын

    Dowel pin that puppy!

  • @eddiederosia731
    @eddiederosia7314 жыл бұрын

    Why did you cut your hair?

  • @ericshaffer9823

    @ericshaffer9823

    4 жыл бұрын

    Somebody did. And trimmed the beard too! A hopeful sign from CovidQuarantineLand. Great sounding guitar, that one!

  • @genomitchalinni8106
    @genomitchalinni8106 Жыл бұрын

    Never drink Dot 3 Brake fluid again! Or I shall unsebscribe! ( Just kidding. Just don't do it.).

  • @genomitchalinni8106
    @genomitchalinni8106 Жыл бұрын

    The Gibson neck is overrated. Depending on the customer.

  • @genomitchalinni8106
    @genomitchalinni8106 Жыл бұрын

    Yea, but that a Gibson, not a true Box Guitar. F that.

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