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00:00 - And So The Journey Begins
03:15 - Why Do People Want BALL Advice?
04:35 - Daniel Vega Drifting
06:46 - Maifield Hiding Handling Issues
10:09 - Joona Haatanen Lacks Wheel Time
12:55 - Elliot Boots, A Lesson In How To Drive A C-hub Car
14:18 - Davide Ongaro Adjusting His Driving
17:13 - How Ongaro Likes To Drive
18:20 - Why I PREFER NO BALLS!
21:20 - Setup Changes I Would Make
22:20 - Rear Hex
22:55 - Diffs
26:45 - Front Hex
27:38 - Rear Anti Roll Bar
29:08 - Rear Shock Position
29:49 - Rear Axle Height
31:30 - Rear Link Height
34:05 - Quick Summary Of Changes
35:54 - Please Give Feedback
36:30 - How Important It Is To Set The Car Up FOR YOU!
38:35 - Why You Are Doing IT WRONG!
40:43 - FIND YOUR MAGIC!
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  • @LIV3FAST88
    @LIV3FAST883 жыл бұрын

    Tried a couple of these ideas this past weekend on outdoor wet clay. Definitely kept the rear end more stable on power.

  • @D70racing
    @D70racing3 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate your knowledge and willingness to share it. Looking forward to more, the future is bright!

  • @jeremycolston8383
    @jeremycolston83833 жыл бұрын

    Been out of the hobby for several years, but catch myself watching you vids. I think that means I'm getting ready to jump back in. AND since you put out all this content for ALL the cars. I WILL get a JQ🤙💪

  • @liono510
    @liono5103 жыл бұрын

    Man!!! The vid was awesome, the last few mins of the vid, I have been telling my fellow racers that for years!!!! Stop copying the best in the world setup and expecting it to work! Whatever the pros do, 99% of us will need more grip

  • @jimhimesjr
    @jimhimesjr3 жыл бұрын

    Great info. My mbx8 was loose on exit. I changed my diffs to 7,4,5 and it works great. Wish this video was out last summer when I was trying to figure this out.

  • @johnjimenez6335
    @johnjimenez63353 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for these videos man! Has given me a lot of information and understanding. I am new to the 1/8th buggy racing side of the hobby so these videos really help.

  • @testedrc
    @testedrc3 жыл бұрын

    I have tried your idea regarding tire contact patch for last few weeks, it worked great for me. Very useful video thank you!

  • @jasonburks272
    @jasonburks2723 жыл бұрын

    I truly appreciate all you continue to do for our RC Community. Thank you for discussing the different types of car chassis & designs, including recommendations to setup in order to improve the handling characteristics we experience. Your videos are a tremendous help in understanding directions we may want to try and enjoy RC racing more.

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thats the idea. Thanks

  • @thatoneguy2756

    @thatoneguy2756

    Жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc or you could just run less anti squat and keep the forward drive out of the corner... your advice in this video...while accurate just sacrifices too much speed while powering corner to corner in short sections.

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thatoneguy2756 running less antisquat can help but won't cure the issue on its own.

  • @thatoneguy2756

    @thatoneguy2756

    Жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc I spent years driving c hub buggies, switched to PB buggy and find them extremely easy to drive and setup. These buggies are so good outta the box now, it's so fun to drive buggies now.

  • @thatoneguy2756

    @thatoneguy2756

    Жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc ok, so I paid extra attention to the corner exits on my pb buggy on last night's race. I do notice that I have to quickly counter steer on exits to prevent over steering. I will try some of your suggestions on next race in a couple weeks.

  • @charlesdekeadorcdriver2118
    @charlesdekeadorcdriver21183 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been running with very similar changes, 2.5 rear bar, 9/4/4, +2 rear hex only, rear link in the most upper position, and it’s been very helpful. You are spot on, keep the videos coming.👍🏻 Mugen MBX8 WE/Eco TE are my current cars.

  • @wiiska6820
    @wiiska6820 Жыл бұрын

    This was some great advise for my RC8B3.2, first time out I had a ton of on power steering, and this will hopefully calm it down. I have made a few of these changes, and now I will understand out to help the rear of the car settle down on power. I laughed about the RM comment, drive better. That's exactly what I was trying to do when over steering on power. I was adjusting the speed of acceleration out of longer turns and out of hairpins. The rear end was just uncontrollable under acceleration.

  • @alessandroandreetta3564
    @alessandroandreetta35643 жыл бұрын

    Guido una team associated ed ho provato il tuo setup... E MI SONO TROVATO BENISSIMO!!!

  • @williams9sean
    @williams9sean3 жыл бұрын

    You the man JQ, thanks for this video. Ill be sure and play with the setup on my mugens

  • @andrew6612
    @andrew66123 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff, before seeing this video I tired similar setting changes but not all, and now you have given me a little more ideas to try out. Thank you and stay safe.

  • @seanberryman
    @seanberryman3 жыл бұрын

    Another great video , followed you for years and this content is awesome.

  • @CJMoto
    @CJMoto Жыл бұрын

    The thinner center diff absolutely works. I tried it before watching this video and you were spot on. 10k in the center was absolutely too heavy

  • @waynerc2420
    @waynerc24203 жыл бұрын

    The adjustment u said to do work awesome stand up the rear shock to last hole made the car to tight on move down one hole and made the way better I change front and rear sway bar front 2.2 rear 2.6 normal is 2.3 and 2.7 setup work really good this was on a high bite track diff work really well

  • @tq5924
    @tq59243 жыл бұрын

    Your In Depth Explanation on Things is Amazing. Subscriber for Life. Keep up the good Work..

  • @G14tube
    @G14tube3 жыл бұрын

    Good Stuff, this knowledge is needed to become a better driver. TY

  • @RConmyMind
    @RConmyMind3 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are so great! So much info, keep up the great work 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @GrigoriadisNikos
    @GrigoriadisNikos3 жыл бұрын

    Yes I tried these thnigs out and it really made my car way easier to drive, i could still drive it without these changes and get competitive lap times, but with these changes i feel that i can push the car more comfortably

  • @andreasandreou6919

    @andreasandreou6919

    Жыл бұрын

    Γειά σου φίλε, αυτές οι αλλαγές δουλεύουν και στο mbx8r ή καλύτερα μόνο λάδια στο καινούριο.

  • @delawareindian
    @delawareindian Жыл бұрын

    You are absolutely correct if we had this in the 80/90s we would be much better now

  • @bharris0128
    @bharris0128 Жыл бұрын

    I tried a lighter rear sway bar and I got a bit of a chubby...but when I also increased the rear diff oil thickness, I got a blue vein throbber. Thanks for the video.

  • @carnivorwar2274
    @carnivorwar2274 Жыл бұрын

    I like this guy! Very informative and thorough.

  • @tHe_ViL1aiN
    @tHe_ViL1aiN3 жыл бұрын

    Intro and outro audio higher than main video, great video as always🖖🏾

  • @Duececutty6972
    @Duececutty69723 жыл бұрын

    This guy is a RC genius!!

  • @mundodejuegos5461
    @mundodejuegos54613 жыл бұрын

    Good Stuff JQ!

  • @bonethuggerrc
    @bonethuggerrc3 жыл бұрын

    Love the vids keep them coming much need info When I had the x8nitro I ran 7,5,3, and overdrive in the front with 2.5 sway bar and -3° rear toe shocks inside hole on arm loved it

  • @the_rcmodeler
    @the_rcmodeler2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video Mr. JQ! I setting up my Team Associated RC8B3.1e and I'm very curious!

  • @LIV3FAST88
    @LIV3FAST883 жыл бұрын

    Awesome info. I agree, we all should focus less on other people's setups and test different things ourselves.

  • @gihonda127
    @gihonda1279 ай бұрын

    Very good video, I really enjoyed the breakdown of turning and being lined up after the turns. I struggle with wanting to get on the power as I am sliding around the turns without being straight for that power to propel my car. I run a Typhon 6S BLX and with the stock sway or antiroll bars, (I watched that vid too) my rear end tends to do what that one guy did and throttle around the turn, while understeering, then have the rear end swing wide, and I have to over steer. This has helped me understand the different setups that would aid in achieving the cornering issues. I run 7000 ct in front/rear diff, and 10,000 ct in the center, still trying to see what works for me. I will continue to watch and learn from your videos. I have now subscribed! Thanks again and keep up the good analyzing and understanding these issues for us and producing thorough content.

  • @mikestoll2328
    @mikestoll23283 жыл бұрын

    Very Good information JQ thank you

  • @leonjohnson5539
    @leonjohnson55398 ай бұрын

    Thanks setup was something I didn't know a lot about you made it sense 😸🎉🎉. Thanks setup man or should I say magic ✨ man 🤠 thanks 😊

  • @selimaksoy1870
    @selimaksoy187011 ай бұрын

    thank you bro its very helpful for me

  • @rajaa111
    @rajaa1113 жыл бұрын

    Great tips and info !!!

  • @cashanovaphillips233
    @cashanovaphillips2333 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @tomato1826
    @tomato18263 жыл бұрын

    U the man JQ

  • @hysao9210
    @hysao92103 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff.

  • @afrewer94
    @afrewer943 жыл бұрын

    It would be very interesting to hear what you think about short vs long rear arms.

  • @Teamster542
    @Teamster5422 ай бұрын

    I am running the MBX8R Eco, Nitro and MBX8TR I just put 15/5/6 on my e buggy, 2.5 rear sway (2.2 front), 4 dot rear plates (highest), raised the link on the rear tower to the top … gonna take it for a spin later today. 🤝🏽 I’ll report back. Gonna try it at both The Dirt and Thunder Alley here in So Cal.

  • @Thedudeabides803
    @Thedudeabides8033 жыл бұрын

    back into RC after a 20 year break and I bought the kyosho MP10t. I didn’t k know about ball steering and I was wondering what I might be missing out on. Happy with what I got now after this video.. 👍 wonder what you would run for diff oils in the MP10t racing against a mugen? In a video I’m sure.

  • @broodro0ster
    @broodro0ster3 жыл бұрын

    I can tell you the 3k center diff on the mbx8 works on low grip tracks. I struggled to get rear grip on a dusty and very bumpy track where the rear wanted to step out on exit. No fix for it. 2k in the center fixed it. On smooth low grip track 3k is fine. And on med to high bite I run the usual 7-15k in the center. I try to find a way to test the high rear link.

  • @ShasOAunLa
    @ShasOAunLa3 жыл бұрын

    thumbs up for that comedistic usage of that teeni song :D

  • @ruirei5962
    @ruirei59623 жыл бұрын

    it is a pleasure to hear your explanations! continue like this please. Note the experience of all these years in competition and a simple and objective way of explaining! i like and learn a lot. I would like to one day see a video about Hot bodies D819 please !!! see you next time, hug from Portugal

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the HB designer can make one.

  • @ruirei5962

    @ruirei5962

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc Hb designer is not you! But ok, i understand! You cant talk about all brands. follow the plan i follow you. Stay cool mate

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ruirei5962 lol maybe one day, their design is old so maybe he needs ideas for how to improve it.

  • @buggyfanatic4708
    @buggyfanatic47083 жыл бұрын

    I'm driving an XB8 2020 mainly on hard packed medium grip track and I can confirm that rear wider rear hexes and 1 step lighter roll bar makes the car stable and "more pushable" on power ... now I better understand why 🙃 I'm curious to try your diffs and axles height advicessoon Positive feedback again ...JQ you are hitting the nail on the head 👊

  • @Gruntlebob

    @Gruntlebob

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did some changes - can only test next WE ... will share

  • @Gruntlebob

    @Gruntlebob

    3 жыл бұрын

    My interpretation The X-ray became much calmer on the rear, so it worked But it had no steering anymore So I had to add steering by a shorter rear uplink ... Need more testing to find a good balance

  • @A.Riera83
    @A.Riera83 Жыл бұрын

    You're a fkn master. Thanks for your tips, time and strenght to the rookies like me.

  • @Antonio-ly6hy
    @Antonio-ly6hy Жыл бұрын

    impressionanti

  • @BeefQueef101
    @BeefQueef1013 жыл бұрын

    Hey JQ, love the videos man very informative. I'm looking to switch to 8th scale from 10th, would you recommend balls or c-hub car for an astro track?

  • @chriswilletts8800
    @chriswilletts88009 ай бұрын

    ive just tried lighter diffs on my mayako and also got a bonner!

  • @user-ic3wt6tr6p
    @user-ic3wt6tr6p3 жыл бұрын

    Great video!! What about mugen ebuggy?? You recommend the same diff oils? especially in the center diff?

  • @baneygray8940
    @baneygray89403 жыл бұрын

    Got every tip noted. I run mugen and want to try these setups, but the nearest track is about 1000KMs away...

  • @waynerc2420
    @waynerc24203 жыл бұрын

    We try next race thanks for info

  • @MX304
    @MX3043 жыл бұрын

    On the mugen and AE aluminum rear hubs offer a middle hole. That's pretty much what we run on the AE all the time.

  • @Haulinbassracing
    @Haulinbassracing3 жыл бұрын

    xrays rear upright has an upper and lower hole for roll. As well as hole to the inside that combined with the "narrow" hole in the arm gives more "offset" that you talked about in the savoya video. would you feel this being a viable option? Just throw an mbx6 rear pivot, mbx8 arms, with some mp9 uprights on and tell everyone it was .5s a lap faster no matter what?

  • @ajojoseph6052
    @ajojoseph60523 жыл бұрын

    JQ, can you do a video on driving with one hand? Steering with just your thumb. 😜 I remember when we met during one of your test sessions in Dallas you were driving that way. You also gave me some tips for my numb fingers issue. Continue the great content creation!!

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have big hands 🤣

  • @atarit3
    @atarit33 жыл бұрын

    Yeah RC8B3E on very loose outdoor track/sand and broken up dirt watered or dry sucks with a thin center diff, thickened the snot out of it, started behaving. Car still likes to randomly bite me every lap or so....

  • @potterg04
    @potterg043 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video 👍 and great advice Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @ChrisVegas1000
    @ChrisVegas10003 жыл бұрын

    YEEEEEEHHHHAAAAAA Finally

  • @mustakimkamaruzaman9715
    @mustakimkamaruzaman97153 жыл бұрын

    Pillow Hub...more video about those hub..👍👍🇲🇾🇲🇾..5:07 what in this 7 years happen to me when about 7 years ago im playing Mugen MBX6R then now already answered..Same like that happen to me..no one explained to me like what you did bro JQ..i think 7 years ago im oversteer like that because my Nitro engine very powerfull make the car oversteer..hahahhaha🤣🤣🤣...Now im just playing C hub car including your car too JQ Racing..Thanks for the answered the mysterious thing about Hub in this 7 years..i very2 satisfied..now i dont need to think it again..The End of tale of two hubs..🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍🇲🇾♥️🇫🇮

  • @kingsleychen8129
    @kingsleychen81293 жыл бұрын

    What about the possibility of changing driving habits? I believe Mugen and a few other kits run this way because it has an advantage that we're not used to. Slide earlier into the corner like what Rally drivers do. Maybe the style of driving is too much on-road like the characteristics of C-Hub. With PBS we need to slide earlier to power over the turn like rally drivers do. Thank you so much for the info and I'll definitely try your advise to see if my driving does improve. Cheers!

  • @proraptor4146
    @proraptor41462 жыл бұрын

    Hey JQ, I tried 10 front, 3 middle, and 4 rear and it calmed my tlr Typhon down quite a bit. A lot less rear end slip on power on corner exit. I feel like I can push the car faster into corners. I hope to figure out a way to get +2rear hubs on it....The Mugen ones don't work, the Mugen pin is larger in diameter. I might try associated or tekno next

  • @carbonkidschannel7281

    @carbonkidschannel7281

    Жыл бұрын

    My tlr tuned also really aggressive on corners

  • @RcOffroad9513
    @RcOffroad95133 жыл бұрын

    Good video man, but I have to say... I have a mugen with balls, It drives very easy, but can be loose in the rear but is very good on landing. I have been racing my serpent SRX8 ebuggy and nitro buggy, and like the c-hub pretty well, but! It does not turn as good as my mugen? Just my 2 cents, good video bro

  • @yaboobaker
    @yaboobaker Жыл бұрын

    I am thinking of buying the mugen mbx8r, or is kyosho mp10 better, which engine would you recommend. I have a kyosho mp777 brand-new and a used one aswell with navarossi pxl21 engine

  • @ardesignsrc
    @ardesignsrc3 жыл бұрын

    Take a look at the soar buggy. It has a hybrid pivot ball/king pin steering. What is your take on that. What about adapting a pivot ball rear suspension. Or a hybrid of that. I thought I saw xray playing around with that idea. Taking what is using in tenth scale and trying to adapt it to 1/8.

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not a hybrid, it's still just a pivot ball. The function is the same.

  • @MX304
    @MX3043 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see a video on why the new Tekno drives nothing like a "normal" c-hub car, but also not like a traditional ball car.

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    How would you say it drives? Smooth with a lot of grip?

  • @MX304

    @MX304

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc Edgy, hard to drive. Grip is very inconsistent. Miss the setup by a little and you end up with a car that can either have tons of under steer or over steer. It still has the weird "hop" in the rear suspension that has always plagued the Teknos on rough tracks.

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MX304 Ok my bad, I assumed that they had it figured out with the new one. That's the one you mean right, long arms, narrow pivots?

  • @MX304

    @MX304

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc Yes. It is better than the old cars, but still a long way off.

  • @daveshank1921

    @daveshank1921

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a EB48.4. Its a gen behind. I dont seem to have those problems. Mine drives really good. It predictible constistent has ALOT of traction and steering. I love my EB48.4. I also own a Hyper 7 TQ and an OG RC8FT that took me a very long time to set up so it wouldnt spin the rear around all the time. Id say my Tekno drives better than the other cars I own. And I own a few diff cars. Tekno cars arent bad. Why all the trash talk. They need to be set up for YOU just like any car. Keep nitro alive. And live RC.

  • @Crewchief227
    @Crewchief2273 жыл бұрын

    To raise the rear link (I drive 3.1 Ae cars), couldn't you use instead of the bent camber link rod ends, use two straight ones? Or would that screw up your droop and suspension travel?

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    That changes nothing except clearance for the wheel. It doesn't change the geometry.

  • @Grizzman99
    @Grizzman99 Жыл бұрын

    It looks like part of the over steer is the car is pushing already mid corner then when they come on the throttle they are oversteering to compensating for the under steer then it bites on the gas and the rear of the car whips. I do agree the ball design has that tendency but I think a big part of that is some under steer so the front tires are turning hard but when the driver gets in the gas the front tires find bite and it literally pulls that rear end around. Awesome video footage and the slow motion is awesome. Also curious how much of this is driving style? When you watch the difference in the driving styles there’s two very different styles. Love the videos! Thanks for all the effort and time. Agreed I think the ball cars take more talent to drive. I think the ball design is a better design but it’s harder to drive. Also agree make the car easy to drive and as you progress you can slowly make the car faster as you go. Ryan Harris is a great example of this. He makes his cars easy to drive so it’s comfortable. I’d I can make less mistakes and run a decent lap time I can beat most of the competition. Now as you get to the better top tier drivers the car will have to be fast and your gonna have to drive to win. Videos are great again. Tuning tips are awesome and you give a reason why.

  • @xristoskalandrias2834
    @xristoskalandrias28343 жыл бұрын

    its also us mate, that got some second hand c-hub oldies like mp9. lets give it a try there.. How is it possible to get a descent setup for us? you are spot on concerning setups againt famous drivers. It is not doable.. cheerrs mate

  • @TheDeepsilver
    @TheDeepsilver3 жыл бұрын

    @JQRacingTV should anyone at this point in time still buy a Black Edition or is something else coming? Maybe do a video comparing the JQ BE with the top buggies such as the MP10, MBX8, HB and Sworkz

  • @nilsk.9517
    @nilsk.95173 жыл бұрын

    Mugen: there is a 1mm shim between suspension arm and Pivot-Ball in the front. What do you think of standard hex (NOT the +1mm), but increasing the shims to 2mm? should keep the broader track width but also the standard kingpin offset for increased steering - what do you think? Appreciate your opinion ...

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes for most steering and stability, you would want to run the narrowest hex and then shim it out to max width. I would give that a try.

  • @waynerc2420
    @waynerc24203 жыл бұрын

    Do think this work good on outdoor tracks work on indoor high bite

  • @86fourtrax1
    @86fourtrax13 жыл бұрын

    JQ, I last raced an mbx7r a few seasons ago and I had previously raced an eight 3.0. Your thoughts on the handling between these 2 styles of vehicles is spot on. I literally was trying to find a way to calm down the rear of the mugen damn near every race. Now that I have seen your vids on these differences and heard your thoughts on some changes that may have helped, your thoughts on the diff oil changes are on the right track. Standard oil setups were 5,7,3 and I would sometimes run 7,7,3 The mugen responded very well to diff oil changes. It is also funny that you mentioned adding holes in the rear hubs because I was trying to figure that out as well. (Never did)The wider rear hubs do help, just not a lot. By the way, I raced with you in 2015 (I think)when you where in Michigan at a track with a giant 2 level drivers stand. Track was pretty abrasive and I ended up bending my Losi chassis 5mm that day. Lol

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember that race, I ran IBeams, it was all Motocross style!

  • @aaronhellinger6185
    @aaronhellinger61852 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff. Lol Business model

  • @tiagocarrelo1341
    @tiagocarrelo13413 жыл бұрын

    Top

  • @petercole2339
    @petercole23393 жыл бұрын

    You are 1,000,000% correct about the Mugen car ..I always have great entry..feels great...then...Oh shit what's happening!!!

  • @b-luv339

    @b-luv339

    3 жыл бұрын

    Get a Kyosho.

  • @yaboobaker
    @yaboobaker Жыл бұрын

    I am getting a lot of over steer on power in my mugen mct2 tried everything. any input will be appreciated

  • @dreamer2355
    @dreamer23553 жыл бұрын

    Do you work much on the 10th scale scene?

  • @Brennen_Nisporic
    @Brennen_Nisporic3 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always. You made a comment about the tlr eight x in the savoya video. I have that buggy and find it difficult to drive. Spinning out on corners hard to keep straight on power. A setup video for that car would be fantastic. Thank you. Even some more info on that car would be helpful. I just got into nitro buggy and I could use some help getting out of last place.

  • @Brennen_Nisporic

    @Brennen_Nisporic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also looking forward to buying your book when it comes out. I know that will give me a greater understanding of how to tune the car to make it do what I want. Just want an easier car to drive even if I sacrifice speed.

  • @tartarelaurent4536
    @tartarelaurent45363 жыл бұрын

    Make your magic!

  • @CJMoto
    @CJMoto Жыл бұрын

    What kinda tires do you run JQ?

  • @skaargan
    @skaargan3 жыл бұрын

    This is my comment, i used tekno 2.0 car btw. The rear hub height, i prefer to use lower hub make it more grip n more side bite. If i use higher hub, the rear will be loose. We have 5 position n most would use pos2 I agree that we the regular joes cant really use the setup from the pros unless we can drive like them...

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    The tekno rear hub is not like the ones found on Xray, Mugen and AE, so it works differently, in the direction of the kyosho style.

  • @skaargan

    @skaargan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc owh yea u are right. Also i check tekno scrub radius is near to zero both front and back

  • @ericwetzel1469
    @ericwetzel14693 жыл бұрын

    So I tried 15/3/7 today at Thunder Alley in socal. Track was ran dry and anyone who has run there before when it’s dry knows it’s super high grip. Anyways, I can say that the car has great front end pull out of the turns but lacked drive. Then for shits and gigs ran 5 in the center and left the front and rear and holy hell, way too much drive and pull and basically was a freaking handful. Running 15/3/7 was ok at best. It felt as though I had to change my driving style to accommodate this diff setup. I generally run 7/5/4 and can say, I like it better this way than 15/3/7 or 15/5/7...just my .2 cents

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Try 10-3-4

  • @stanshaw611
    @stanshaw611 Жыл бұрын

    Actually I’m just facing this problem,I did some change of toe in, yea it’s more stable to drive,especially when you drive into a dusty corner or low grip corner it works perfect.but at same times,when i get into a high grip corner,the speed in corner is much slower too….

  • @katasiepen489
    @katasiepen48910 ай бұрын

    And what about my sworkz rear end ? It is Like an Kyosho rear end?

  • @OFFCODEV2
    @OFFCODEV23 жыл бұрын

    @14:16 what kind of controller is that ,I can use a controller like that instead of a wheel controller???

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stick controller, yes

  • @OFFCODEV2

    @OFFCODEV2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc damn ,I thought the other one was a requirement lol ,oh I'm going pro now 😂

  • @kennyirish5021
    @kennyirish5021 Жыл бұрын

    ah haha How'd that email turn out for you?!?!? Oh that made me laugh man. I was racing in the 2000 about eight years in central California before A-main had a track. We traveled all over the place racing was such a good time. Still have all my stuff and now I have a track at home. ;) Oh and My friends and I got a personal tour of A-Main's wear house what a candy store that was!!!

  • @richardpina7579
    @richardpina7579 Жыл бұрын

    When you talk about pivot ball I notice you group certain brands together except sworkz. Can you explain what makes sworkz different? Thanks

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    Жыл бұрын

    Explained here kzread.info/dash/bejne/gY2L2LmMZrmWddY.html

  • @bennettironman
    @bennettironman Жыл бұрын

    Hey JQ.....would this diff set up suit my 8th Nitroon high grip Astro ?

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    Жыл бұрын

    On high grip astro I recommend you go to much thicker diffs, specially front and centre. There is a carpet setup on mayako.com from Nemo raceway. You can check that for reference.

  • @JohnJones-vp1em
    @JohnJones-vp1em2 жыл бұрын

    Why are they using those kinda controllers with the sticks? Is that driver preference?

  • @CMBProjects
    @CMBProjects3 жыл бұрын

    Good video! You would like to see my homemade 49cc RC car!

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sure

  • @ridegreen78
    @ridegreen783 жыл бұрын

    I just put 10000-3000-5000 in my associated. I also put a 2.5 rear sway bar on and +2mm rear hubs on. Is there any reason why the box setup for this car has so much toe in on the FRONT wheels?

  • @sudhista

    @sudhista

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm an associated user too, I'm curious how it goes. Is the setup any good?

  • @ridegreen78

    @ridegreen78

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sudhista I’ve found 10k-10k-7k has been my favorite

  • @littleshovelperkins
    @littleshovelperkins3 жыл бұрын

    thanks, i had been stuggeling with this as well. Could somebody explain me, why a thin center diff will give the car more off power rotation? And why does a thick rear diff will give you more rear grip going into the corner? What´s the physics or mechanical thing behind this? Just to help me understand better.

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because to turn tightly, tyres need to be able to turn at different speeds compared to each other. For example, the rear outer tyre needs to turn faster than the inner tyre in a corner, its travelling a longer distance. If the diff is thick it wont allow this and the car wont turn. Centre diff is similar. Allowing the rear tyres to turn faster than front helps to allow the car to rotate as the rear end can swing around

  • @littleshovelperkins

    @littleshovelperkins

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc thanks a lot for the answer. I understand how the diffluid works in the the front and rear diff and why the tyre on the inside of the corner needs to be able to turn slower than the outside tyre. But why does a thin difffluid on the center allow the rear tyres to turn faster than on the front? Does the center diff distrubute the power uneven to front and back in general? I always thought, a thicker or thinner difffluid in the center affects front and rear in the same way, transfereing equally more or less power to front and back. Now that I know what it does, i´d love to know why.

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@littleshovelperkins Think of th efront end as inside tyre, rear end as outside tyre.

  • @littleshovelperkins

    @littleshovelperkins

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc Awesome. Thank you. I will try the setuptips soon. I practice on astro But Race often on dusty Clay. I spun out on the Exit of the corner often on clay and messed up my races a lot.

  • @tlrcamp8009
    @tlrcamp80093 жыл бұрын

    With your experience in RC cars will this concept theoretically work for the rear end of the 8X?

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    No I think they will change their design in the future.

  • @tlrcamp8009

    @tlrcamp8009

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc In another video comment section you suggested me to watch this video to help with the rear end on the 8x I believe unless I’m watching the wrong video

  • @longcao3652
    @longcao3652 Жыл бұрын

    please help me, I'm using Xray XB8, so how do you use differential oil? thank so much!

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    Жыл бұрын

    I explain it in the video

  • @longcao3652

    @longcao3652

    Жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc i'm playing this track, so is the setting the same as the movie you said? please help me, many thanks kzread.info/dash/bejne/oYR-27SdqJqYk6w.html

  • @GyuHobbyRC
    @GyuHobbyRC3 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed a great video let's be friends. 우리 친구 해요! 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

  • @ChristopheChardon
    @ChristopheChardon3 жыл бұрын

    We need a deep analysis on the buggys you dislike : TLR and TEKNO

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ask them. I don’t dislike them. It’s the people behind them,

  • @skyreadyrc5873

    @skyreadyrc5873

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc Please elaborate. Maybe add some x,y points on the Hater Index curve to illustrate.

  • @afrewer94

    @afrewer94

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc is it what they did to Lutz? I've been enjoying these videos. Thanks for making them.

  • @bobbydirtamiyer2151
    @bobbydirtamiyer2151 Жыл бұрын

    The wheel rotates around the outside of the ball, making for a more aggressive steer. The bigger the balls, the more pronounced the angles will be. Solution: smaller balls. That should fix the whole issue. A little less caster angle would help too. Awesome topic man!

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    Жыл бұрын

    You cant make smaller balls, you wont get the required steering angle. Less caster doesnt solve the issue

  • @bobbydirtamiyer2151

    @bobbydirtamiyer2151

    Жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc The steering angle is the problem though. The changes you talk about making would make any car more stable, not specifically a pillow ball car. If you want to make a pillow ball car drive like a c-hub car, you would need to address the one difference they have....steering.

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobbydirtamiyer2151 no that’s not right. Pillow ball and chub have different characteristics and require different setups

  • @bobbydirtamiyer2151

    @bobbydirtamiyer2151

    Жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc Looks like we might have to agree to disagree on this one. Great topic of discussion though and still like your video! 👍

  • @erikfink4603
    @erikfink46033 жыл бұрын

    I have seen that Mugen drivers are using 12/42, instead of the MBX8 std 13/44 diff ring/pinion. They say that it creates more sitebite/more traction, and therefore the rear, will stick more to the ground and carry more corner speed. And, to calm it down, the are going for smaller spur, to maintain topspeed. I cant see howgoing for smaller diff, can create more sidebite?? Acceleration yes, but sidebite.....

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Front and rear or just one end? Here is good info on gearing. thequagraine.com/2016/03/16/smooth-or-even-smoother-gearing/

  • @erikfink4603

    @erikfink4603

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc Front and rear. And i cant understand how diff gearing can give more sidebite/corner speed. Is it rc woodoo 😉

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@erikfink4603 ok then that link applies

  • @bricoletout
    @bricoletout3 жыл бұрын

    This is very interesting as always. That's why I sold my Sworzk and HB to buy a Black Edition to support the man behind this work.

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    WAWAWEEEWAAAAAHH!

  • @marcsangiuliano4273
    @marcsangiuliano42733 жыл бұрын

    Wow, that was really interesting! The best tinkerer I know of has a channel called 'Beavers Hobby'. He is the best I've seen. If anyone can figure this out, he can!

  • @invisiblespeedrc
    @invisiblespeedrc3 жыл бұрын

    SOMEONE PLEASE TIMESTAMP THE TIME WHERE I POINT UP AND REFERENCE ANOTHER VIDEO! Thanks

  • @bigfridge69

    @bigfridge69

    3 жыл бұрын

    5:05

  • @invisiblespeedrc

    @invisiblespeedrc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 🤣

  • @bigfridge69

    @bigfridge69

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@invisiblespeedrc thanks for the opportunity 😂😂 loving all the content 👌👌

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