Dang this is so important and well done. I can really only speak for myself, but I feel like a lot of fan-trailer editors know the "what" but not the "why." We know from learning by watching trailers, like you said yourself. We imitate what we've seen, like monkey-see-monkey-do (in a good way lol). It just feels "right." But because we don't really know the "WHY," when it comes to branching off from style trailers, or just facing a more challenging trailer to cut, it can be really difficult because we don't have that verbalized-explanation of the "why" to fall back on and implement. When you don't know the "why," and the "what" isn't working, you just end up asking yourself over and over again WHY all frustratedly, and now we have this amazing explanatory video to give us the answers. Thank you Derek (again lol)!

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! This one is so pervasive but like you said, no one really talks about it. Even after years I still only sort of understood they were a thing 😜

It is so nice to find a place with other trailer enthusiasts/creators. No one around me in RL understands the drive to make trailers and enjoy watching a well put together one. I hope to learn as much as I can!

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

I’m glad you found my channel 😃

how is this not viral?? your videos are so well put-together and informative!! great work :)

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

Haha I don’t know, but I’m glad you liked it! Every share and comment is much appreciated 😁

@CuppingHustlers

5 ай бұрын

@@DerekLieu pls keep making videos! esp on movie trailers!

I love your content. Your channel has given me the structure I wanted for my passion/hobby. Very nice work. I am so grateful!

Great Video, Derek! Thanks for this!

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

This is some invaluable piece of information. Never looked at trailers like this.

@DerekLieu

Ай бұрын

You can't unsee it XD

You just made my commercial brain 10x better

@DerekLieu

Жыл бұрын

Haha, glad to help 😄

Thank you for covering this topic! Just wanted to ask about book trailer but someone already did it :D

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

I’m a writer who likes to swipe pacing ideas from movies, thanks for the info.

Great video, it's really interesting to me to learn from the editors perspective. I'd also been calling these types of moments punctuation.

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! When making fan trailers with library music or working on a project with a music budget I definitely spent a LOT of time trying to find music with drum fill-like moments just frequent enough to slot dialogue in between, but not so many that no dialogue could fit in.

@WilliamMorrisMusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@DerekLieu good to know! I hear the same thing from my trailer labels, especially for action movies, where the accents are so pronounced.

You are a genius, this video is a gem

@DerekLieu

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊

great video

That's indeed something I never paid attention to. Thanks!

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

CANNOT UNSEE 🤣

I have learned a lot from you, thank you.

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

I like how you also did accents in this video

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, all part of the plan 😉

Amazing!!

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

It was helpful, thank you.

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Thank a lot the great idea for me

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

i feel like accents are like the cool brother of b-roll XD many thanks learned a lot :3

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, that’s a good way of looking at it 😄

Dang, I never knew these had a name, I always kinda disliked them because they so often feel like cheating, but it does seem so necessary after watching this!

cool

Great video, Derek! Do Action Scenes/Fights in trailers count as accents, or would those be too long to be counted?

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

Generally they are used as accents, but if they’re a huge part of the film they could arguably be part of the main storyline. It’s kind of a blurry line. Why do you ask?

@connormcpherson8793

2 жыл бұрын

@@DerekLieu There were a few fight scenes you seemed to be referring to as accents, which confused me a bit. Usually when I think of accents, I think of a split-second cut, or something short. Fight clips can be a bit longer.

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

@@connormcpherson8793 Ah I see! Yes it’s kind of a fine line for fight stuff.

@Spacemarine658

2 жыл бұрын

@@connormcpherson8793 I think it's all gonna depend on the fights themselves too for example in the MI scene where they fought in the bathroom the accent was only a splash of the full fight scene and they even showed multiple blips from that same fight spaced out like the first one was them preparing to fight for like .5 seconds but the second accent was closer to 3 or 4 seconds it felt like but without getting gratuitous like Derek said it's a fine line

Could you make a video on how to properly do a book trailer or on how you would do it? I can't recall seeing a single one good book trailer.

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never made a book trailer, so unfortunately I’m not super sure what works best for them. What’s the best one you’ve seen?

@jonolas1626

2 жыл бұрын

@@DerekLieu I guess these ones, but I don't think they are good enough :( kzread.info/dash/bejne/q3aHpbtwj9fKZ6Q.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKtpm7CtZavXmMY.html

@jonolas1626

2 жыл бұрын

@@DerekLieu The good thing is that, since there is not a way proven to work, doing one of them would give you a huge space for creativity and innovation. I'm proposing this because I want to make one for my book but everything I got for now is good but too movie-trailer like and hard/expensive to produce

@tante4dante

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonolas1626 the problem i see/think is the issue, is that the budget is probably not that big to produce actual unique assets for the trailer, means they probably use existing stock footage... and making a whole trailer based on stock footage that is really appealing is probably a challenge

@jonolas1626

2 жыл бұрын

@@tante4dante Idk, then why make them so visual-based? Is it unavoidable?

lol I liked the Departed without the accents way better... with the accents it was much cheesier... it might be because action accents are so overdone these days...

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, in fairness it's from 2006, and trailers might've mellowed by now. I'm biased though 'cause it was cut by a friend of mine.

Make more videos on trailer editing

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

I’d love to, I just don’t have much spare time 😰 what aspect of trailer editing do you need the most help doing?

@thakrarzeel644

2 жыл бұрын

@@DerekLieu just how to not make it boring and some trailers looks like a recap video once you've seen the film or they look like compilation of best scenes😅 How to avoid it

@thakrarzeel644

2 жыл бұрын

@@DerekLieu and yeah please make more content on films Have so much content on game but less on films

@taz09216

2 жыл бұрын

@@DerekLieu I've always struggled, should I cut the music to the visuals or vice versa?. Sometimes I start and find it feels like I'm putting together a puzzle that keeps moving out of place. The most difficult part is the second or middle part of the structure.

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

@@taz09216 There's no one rule which is objectively better, it depends on you. I like to have some music in place if I can, but I've also edited with no music and then adjusted to fit music I get later. Being able to adjust and change to music or vice versa is a huge part of the job, so I think you'll always be doing a bit of back and forth.

So what I learned is accents make trailers worse.

@DerekLieu

2 жыл бұрын

lol, sure 😂