How to Lay Tile Over Concrete
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Transcript:
If you're planning to install ceramic tile over concrete, here's a method of material you'll surely want to know about. Developed by master tile setter, Armen Tavey, it's designed to give you a professional quality job that will look great and last for decades.
Creating attractive tile floors and walls like this over concrete and wallboard is quick and easy, using the “Tavey thin skin” method. To begin, apply the adhesive or glue directly to the floor using a knots trowel.
In this example, we're going to go to the wall with the same adhesive. While the glue is still wet, lay this fiberglass reinforced paper on top of the adhesive. The joints can be overlapped or butted. The paper bonds securely to the glue and the glue adheres to the concrete underneath. Paper is also applied to the wall, ensuring that regardless of the condition of the wallboard, the tile that will eventually go on top, will be securely and permanently bonded. For the wall tiles we're using a premixed mastic applied with a knots trowel. Check the instructions on the mastic container for the correct trowel knot size. This two inch square tile comes in 12 x 12 mats that are simply pressed into the mastic. Notice that Armen Tavey, creator of the “thin skinned system”, starts at the bottom and works upward to prevent the tile sheets from sliding down when they're placed on the wall. Specially designed spacers created by Armen are inserted into the joints between the sheets, ensuring that the grout lines are straight, even and uniform. Their open design keeps the tile corners visible for perfect alignment.
The floor tiles are going to be installed using thin set mortar. The powder is emptied into a bucket and first mixed to blend the dry ingredients. Then Armen slowly adds water until the mixture is smooth, lump free and about the consistency of sour cream. The mortar is applied to the reinforced paper as a thin skim coat that conditions the paper for a heavier application that will follow. After the skin coat dries, a second coat of mortar is applied using a knots trowel. The trowel is held at a consistent angle and the notches leave ridges of mortar that are uniform in height ensuring that each tile is fully supported by the mortar underneath. The tiles in this case, six inch squares, are pressed into the mortar bed, now notice how Armen slides the tiles from side to side, flattening the mortar ridges underneath and distributing the cement evenly across the back of the tile. A few taps from a mallet further ensures a good bond. Since they float, Armen often keeps his tile spacers in a bucket of water. Here, as on the wall, the spacers ensure joints that are consistent and straight. By cutting a spacer in half, it can be used around the edge where the floor meets the wall.
With all the full tiles in place, it's time to cut those that will fit around the toilet flange. First Armen traces, then cuts out a paper template. Then he applies a couple of tape strips to a piece of tile and draws the shape onto the tape. Using a tile saw, he makes one large cut, then several smaller ones up to the line. Finally, for the finishing and smoothing, he uses the blade as a grinder.
Sometimes the thin set mortar can squeeze up between tiles, leaving no room for the grout that will soon be applied, the dried mortar can be removed with a utility knife or grout saw. Vacuum any dust off the face of the tile and out of the grout joint. After the thin set has dried for at least 24 hours it's time for grout. The dry ingredients are mixed together to evenly distribute the color pigments, then the powder is added to a small amount of water and stirred. More water is added to the mixture until it's smooth and thoroughly blended to the consistency of pudding. A sponge rubber float is used to apply the grout. Armen first forces the material all the way to the bottom of the joint, completely filling it, then he tilts the float up on edge and moving diagonally from corner to corner removes any excess material from the face. If the float is not kept on the diagonal, it can scoop out grout previously put into the joint.
Virtually the same technique is used on the smaller tiles. The grout is then left to dry, about 45 minutes to an hour, until the material is firm in the joints and a dry haze is visible on the face of the tile.
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Step by step, straight up to the point! Thank you Ron!
Very good tip cutting sponge for inside corners. I suggest pre cutting tiles around toilet before mixing the mortar especially if you are working with speed set adhesive. Excellent spacers!!!! I have been looking for the clip and wedge system for LFT . I am not sure that Tavy makes that kind...
Great video and thanks for the tips. You could also use burlap to scrub and clean the tile after the haze sets in. I do this with smooth brick to clean them as a bricklayer.
Nice work Ermine!
Excellent!
What tile can be installed outside? Covered screen porch & patio. How are cement steps covered?
How would you handle putting tile on a concrete wall? My concrete wall has a Brick pattern to it.
why did i even go to highschool? im building a dog kennal with my Dad and our business in about to blow up. thanks for the excellent tips. the client want a mosaic of a german shepard and this helped so much.
question: how do you call this new way of method tiling the floor? because in our country we still used the old fashioned way like manually putting cement underneath the tiles.
Thanks
use a hand grinder with a diamond blade for those round cuts.
I’m installing told you my patio. I have a Behr water based stain currently. Do I need to remove it before doing this process with the paper? What kind or brand is that paper?
For wood floors like in bathroom floor and wall do I need backer board or just use the paper and mortal sorry if spelled wrong also in shower surround do I use the paper and mortal as well the project I would like to work on is kitchen floor concreat (subfloor ) bathroom floor (wood subfloor) and shower surround I would like to tile my entire bathroom floor and walls I was told at Lowe's I need backer board for the walls i am using ceramic tile that look like wood for the floor and for shower and bathroom walls i would like to use ceramic tile any advice is appreated I'm just learning to tile I'm in the process of tiling my kitchen backsplash with subway tile
@zoemaravilla3850
4 жыл бұрын
Gea J if your tiling over wood sub floor yes you need backer board or durock. 1/4” or 1/2” depending on what floor you got when outside the bathroom. Bathroom walls you could tile right over Sheetrock if your doing a tub sorround and if your tiling over concrete you don’t need nothing just make your you sweep clean and vacuum the dust
What if the Concrete is polished and has sealer on it? Do you need to sand or strip off that stuff to Ruffin up the concrete?
This doesn't apply to outdoor concrete, right?
What the hell happened at 6:40? His wall tiles are VERY uneven. I'd be pissed if that was my wall he worked on.
@Puda
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s HORRIBLE. Grout is also terrible at the bottom. The fact that the toilet flange has a BIG gap tells a lot about the work being done. But happens a lot with pros!!! That freaks me out every time! I had a pro who did my basement bathroom and it’s not perfect but okay work. I have seen photos of other works he has done (after the fact) and that’s pretty much what you are seeing at 6:40 I swear, finding good tilers is a freaking struggle. Hiring someone else for another job I have. I just can’t take the risk. Fingers crossed, new tiler will do a good job. Also, you can only see the uneven tiles AFTER the grout is in!!! So it makes things awfully difficult to control!
my patio cement is uneven so how can I put Mexican tiles on it?
@mochissin84m84
4 жыл бұрын
Fix it .use self leveling
I’m still looking for Rons response 👀
Why were so many tiles un-even, and the spacing out of whack on so much? Why was the curved cut so ragged and badly done? Why was there a giant gap around the drain just filled with grout? Why wasnt the thin set cleaned out of the gaps BEFORE it dried? This looked like a truly awful job to me.
@Puda
2 жыл бұрын
I think that’s because it’s truly an awful job…
What's up with the missing tile on the front of the toilet flange?
@jocaingles8464
4 жыл бұрын
I believe it's for water drainage
@Guillotines_For_Globalists
4 жыл бұрын
@@jocaingles8464 Water drainage for what? He filled it in with grout.
@mfallstar
4 жыл бұрын
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists the front of the toilet base sticks out much further and covers that up, he was just simplify the cuts with one pass on those two tiles.
@Guillotines_For_Globalists
4 жыл бұрын
@@mfallstar I understand that it will be covered but my OCD would still like to see the tile tight to the flange.
@mochissin84m84
4 жыл бұрын
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists f your ocd ..you dont need it ..if you work in construcction this is a normal thing
that is pretty awesome. I didn't think it would be that easy. Really don't want to buy a tile saw though =/
@saiga12
7 жыл бұрын
You can use an angle grinder with a diamond wheel if you want.
@stevenr10155
6 жыл бұрын
Just get tile cutter. A lot cheaper.
@mikewa2
6 жыл бұрын
Buy the tile cutter, do the job properly
@keonlam7557
5 жыл бұрын
@@saiga12 n ,
A Tile Sponge ......Really ,Would it at all be possible to use a regular sponge ?😂 Also how much did it cost to tile that small area given the shear amount of materials ?
The state of it, dear god
If i lay tile like this i wont charge a dime ! Plus Grout lines are Terrible! 😮
This is more of a marketing campaign for said products than a thorough explanation of the process of tiling a bathroom. You didnt explain tiling around the toilet flange which is Probably the most important part
Sorry, I don't understand the function of the paper.
😂 🤦🏻♂️
Yeah use a hired professional in my case
Ya gotta be kidding me. You are putting all your faith in the PAPER sticking with GLUE to a floor and wall ??? The paper, glue bond fails and down comes your tile.
@Guillotines_For_Globalists
4 жыл бұрын
The master tile setter designed this setting. ARE YOU QUESTIONING GOD?
@heatto162
4 жыл бұрын
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists ya....he's a hack and is system is stupid and unnecessary!
For the love of God, don’t do ANYTHING you see in the video prior to actually applying mortar.. everything before that is just a crap commercial for stuff that won’t serve the purpose your expecting.. don’t buy glue.. just clean it. If your surface is uneven or going over wood use durok or any other backer board.. not paper...
@richardpatrick7701
5 жыл бұрын
Hey I agree with you to a point, as long as they make these and the diy'er watches them I'm making a ton $$$ fixing and doing it right. By the way there are so many don't do it this way in the video😉
@AZTECPRIDELOCOS
5 жыл бұрын
Steven Riordan i agree for a show yes but not for something that you will be steping every day Hell no i wouldnt use glue and paper
Crack, crack goes your floor tile...
Looks bloody awful . What a mess
@Puda
2 жыл бұрын
That guy is not using a ruler so there is no way the tiles would look even. Like no way on earth. It’s an absolute lazy job.