This is an incredibly detailed and complete explanation of great sound...maybe the best I’ve ever heard.

I've been involved with this hobby for 60 years, still learning. The most descriptive analysis of what I listen for and try to convey to non Audiophiles.

Saved in my audio playlist. A great description of what I like to hear.

This is brilliant!!!! Well put! Thank you Mikey!

You nailed it. Now I can stop trying to explain it myself, I'll just refer them to this!

Nice video! Great explanation of great sound! Keep up the good work!

That was a well-thought description of the sound of music, Mikey. Anyone listening will understand what you mean when you broke it down and described the components. Not an easy task!

@OCDHIFiGuy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks MAN !

Well said. For the most part, I like what you say at the end of lecture.

Second time watching. Mikey, you crack me up. Great style.

Love your straight forwardness , great Video’s.

Thank you, this was great. Thank you. Also, excellent close to this video as well.

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@RobotronR6

2 жыл бұрын

@@OCDHIFiGuy thank you, it was very well articulated. Thus it was very helpful.

You killed it here, Mickey, great explanation!!!

@OCDHIFiGuy

10 ай бұрын

Thanks Sid...

One of the best videos I ever seen thank you for all the information

Thanks Mikey; your description validates my experience. I have little to compare my rig with, so thanks for that. Still tweaking the toe in.

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Right on Dave ... Cheers !

Thank you for this one. You couldn’t have explained that any better.

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was easy to understand I just took a stab and was not sure...

Good guide to great sound, thanks Joe

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Joey ! Hope you are great my man !!

@joegallenberger6032

2 жыл бұрын

@@OCDHIFiGuy ,doing well. Opened up the Vegas workshops for the fall. Liking my system with the VInni Rossi

You’re definitely right on the mark with this topic………, I’ve been trying to re-educate quite a few of my friends over the years, on how they should be hearing said frequency response, as far as separate and layering of each note. Great post. O_o scar

BRAVO! BRAVO! The best I’ve ever heard. Thank you.

@OCDHIFiGuy

11 ай бұрын

Thanks !

Great chat Mike! I hope everyone gets the opportunity to experience true hifi sound.

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

I hope so too!

Hello Mike. Just found your channel. Great information and thank you for sharing. I have been chasing hi-fi for over 15 years now. I have learned one major lesson in my journey and that is ‘good sound is all about the listener and not the gear’. To clarify, we all hear differently, both the ears and the mind’ and what one person can hear the one next to them may not. I have said to people before ‘did you hear that guitar string being picked or that cymbal and they couldn’t or didn’t notice it. Listening and hearing is very personal to each of us. The way the audio is mixed or created is on thing. How we hear it is another one entirely.

First person to explain great sound. I really appreciate that. I’ll never have a system like that but….. it gives me a reference to try and achieve. Thanks Mike

Great info!

Excellent advice from beginning to end.

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks X, hope it helped...

That's where ive been, gotta feel it in my chest, then i amplify it. Good video , love your take

It's not easy to find words to describe sound, You did this accurately, Well done.👏👏👏

@OCDHIFiGuy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you !!

So funny. I love this guy so much. Can’t wait to get my Rowland 735s. Thank you Mickey!

Mikey.. thanks for your great and informative videos. Much appreciated. What’s your opinion on KRELL gear and SACDs? Thanks in advanced!

I love your perspective on this addiction...I mean hobby.

Great explanation.

Right on Mikey, one of your best shows to date brother! Our government needs to get their leash yanked! Thanks for what you do.

Great descriptions

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Hollis you da man.

I thought that was very well done. Thanks

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks David !! Cheers !

Best explanation ever! Thank you so much Mike. I am with you with every word and I can feel you when you close your eyes and explain what its all about. Magic. I had systems years ago that could recreate a mind-blowing experience when you just sat down for a couple of hours just listening to an full album from start to end - when did that happen lately? I am to distracted right now, thinking to much about bass response in room and trying to sit in the middle trying to catch the dead center and just change songs all the time as it is something that does not involve me enough to stay... I am struggling with a new rig to get to the real involvement, but I have a path to walk... I am trying to mix cinema with "true" Hi-Fi and that is a challenge for sure! I am a panel guy so I have walked through Logans, Apogee Scintilla and now Magnepans, but I need to look through my front end (DAC and preamp) perhaps... I will keep changing gears to my last breath I guess. I am on a budget these days so its all about second hand investments, but that is part of the fun for me. Cheers!

@bradt.3555

Жыл бұрын

That's a tough mix, I have one system in my living room that's used for movies, there I have a sub. In a smaller room I have my music system, no sub. My bottom cabs have (2) 6.5 inch woofers each, It doesn't have the same extreme lows but things like a stand up bass sound so real which is not so much with the sub'd system. My stuff is all second hand. Don't need to buy new to get there. My favorite amp on my music sys was an old solid state Macintosh, when Edison blew it up I bought a new Belles and was never as happy. When the left channel went DC I replaced it with a new Emotiva, Less than half the cost of the Belles and sounds much more like the Mac. I've found one key element for realism is for your speakers to dissapear, like the sound comes from around and thru them not from them.

Hi thank for the excellent explanations. Do you have songs tracks where we are able to hear that. Thanks

Mikey, I'm watching this sh@t AGAIN, classic.

Just discover your channel, enjoy your videos, great speakers! Big planners need lots of breathing room, was wondering what’s the size of your listening room?

Absolutely agreed 👍, thanks for reminding me what I learned from Mr. Bob Robbin about RATIONAL SPEAKERS PLACEMENT......

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

You bet!

@amitanaudiophile

2 жыл бұрын

@@OCDHIFiGuy you are really great

Helping a newbie (2 years in) understand this a lot better.

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad to hear that Omar. That's why do this. To save you guys time. Because it's totally confusing. Have a great day!

Hi Mike and Happy New Year, Just discovered your U-Tube channel through our e-mail Audiophile group and thought I'd add in my .03 cents worth (inflation)! I've been a searching audio nut these past 47 years and greatly appreciate your "teachings" for those who haven't gone through that "experience/journey" yet! My music past covers 25 total years, with 10 years classical piano study, 5 years of music degree and 10 years of instrumental music teaching! I've studied and performed on every wind, string, keyboard and percussion instrument, with another 2 years of vocal performance! I KNOW what non-amplified acoustical music sounds like! After hearing a very fine "great system" setup in an audio salon in 1980 (Audio Research and Rogers LS3/5A's), I was hooked on reproduced sound! 😃 My personal journey on the "MAGIC" of 2-channel stereo has taken me a Long Time, but the journey has been worth it! Maybe due to my current components, my dedicated intimate small listening room dimensions, my genre of music, my hearing, my musical background or a Synergistic Balance of all the above, I currently have Acoustical Soundstage Depth (depending on the music/recording), that goes from 2ft (front wall behind my monitor baffles) all the way out to 50ft (through bedroom #2 and out into the West property)!! Front presentation width can be 20+ ft laterally and 50ft in height! The soundstage extends Well Beyond any of my music room boundaries (9ftw x 10ftl x 11fth)! The recorded venue appears in all its sonic glory, with dropping jaws and wide-eyed stares into the musical spacial abyss that can be easily heard beyond my stand monitors. Live acoustical recordings sound LIVE as I’m transported into the space/time of the original venue, intimately there with the musicians and all their creative art, emotions and meaning! My room/speakers/components disappear in a complete divorcing act that leaves nothing but You and the Music…Audio Nirvana Rules!!! The kicker is, this great auditory illusion happens day or night, eyes wide open or closed with almost any genre...Believe I've finally achieved my goal of, "LIVE, I AM THERE"!!! 😁 For many, may not be “their thing,” but for me (with my experiences in music study, degree, live performance, and teaching), a goal that I’ve been trying to achieve these past 47 years!!! Keep the Audio/Music knowledge coming Mike, sharing will certainly impact those who are willing to "LISTEN"!!! 😉 Ted

The best thing about having my dual Rel subs positioned near the corners behind my sweet spot... (basically almost out of view) is that when friends or guests come over and I wack some low frequency tracks on and then they automatically look at my small speakers and I know exactly what they're thinking... how the hell are those little speakers sounding so huge! Then I think to myself oh yeah that's how its done 😁

@frederf69

Жыл бұрын

American stuff is often good

Finally an audiophile channel that inspires confidence in me. I've been surfing the planet for years now, studying everything and listening to music without stopping. I would very much like to be able to count on your advice and help when it comes to tuning my system, accepting my own limitations, which are not so much of budget (although also), but of my musical preferences and my way of enjoying music. No doubt that if I lived nearby I would pay you a visit, treat you to a good Colombian coffee and try to steal a few minutes of your time. You are one of those few people with whom, without knowing you, I feel like having a conversation. Congratulations! I enjoy your channel very much.

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks JJ, call me any time my man for advice. Yo conozco HiFi ;-)

@jjarango2

2 жыл бұрын

@@OCDHIFiGuy I will. I often feel alone with this hobby in my city and I can't find audiophile experts to consult. I will certainly write to you to ask you a specific question about my cables.

@jjarango2

2 жыл бұрын

@@OCDHIFiGuy may you give me your email?

killer post , you nailed it. perhaps the only thing I missed is that in a great sounding rig the sound goes through like flowing in the air to you you are like in the middle of something .. sounds is flowing around you and thought...

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Got it , Omnipresence. Its like all of a sudden there is music ... everywhere.. like God just said "let there be music!" you dont know from where it comes or where it goes but it is everywhere and you are floating in it .. You have the sickness. Welcome to the group ...lol :-)

Good explanation Mike, I like your channel and what you are trying to do. Appears you have hung out in several recording studios and have heard alot of gear. I have yet to go to an equipment show, but Ive been in the hobby since the early 70s when my dad and his audio buddies all had multiple hi end systems in their homes. I also grew up in band and play a few instruments...It also helps to know what real acoustic and amplified instruments sound like in a variety of environments! Im 66 years old and have seen alot of live music shows in small venues with decent room acoustics. One can also look up what frequency ranges different instruments typically play at. Also like most audio geeks I have a few different systems in my house, bought and built kits, speakers and electronics...heathkit, bottlehead, pi, parts express, madisound...I have a closet full of drivers and parts! The best systems are often a mix of home made and commercial products...is often home made or built by individuals who have started boutique companies. I guess Ive been into this hobby long enough to have developed a network of like minded folks, most of which are pretty smart, all of which have built their own speakers and/or electronics. Remember the good ole days when folks would hang out at each ithers homes, just to listen to albums/music?!

@OCDHIFiGuy

11 ай бұрын

Yes, we still do that !!

Is there a list of reference tracks that you use to hear the different examples of what you were describing? Like your go to example for hearing the bass tones, or ones for width/depth of the soundstage, great midrange examples, and so on. It was an excellent way to describe all of the different parts of what to listen for. With track examples it would be a great go to reference for setting up rigs and fine tuning them. Awesome video man,

Thankyou OCD HI-Fi Guy, Very cool

This video is awesome! Question - Is that digital glare/etch almost always coming from the dac?

"I hope we once again have reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: As government expands, liberty contracts." - RR 1/11/1999 Excellent breakdown of what to listen for. Tweaking the bass to remove the boomyness is key as it’s easy to drown out the other frequencies. Your mid-freq description is on point when you describe the reverberation that you want to hear in the instrument. That’s one of the finest pleasures in listening to music when that characterization of it stands out.

I guess you can't feel people in the room with a pop or a tick! This is a great explanation wow I took the time to really do it well! I guess we like the same sound cause I like my sound as real as possible

Hahahaha brilliant! Aim to do one vid just that line of deconstructed accents. Any subject! Skat style…

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

May be fun ...lol

Mike - this is truly one of the best videos on sound and politics I’ve ever watched. So much too agree with here. I totally agree, for instance, to know if you are getting good sound from your rig you MUST listen to LIVE music as much as possible. If your friend plays even just a little bit of piano have her play a song for you - it tells you so much. Seems obvious but I’m convinced people just don’t know what to listen for and make crazy sounding systems that aren’t even close to real music. As to politics, yep, we need to get involved and start having REAL conversations about our society and not put people in boxes based on race, gender, religion, age etc. Those things are “protected” under the law but not in practice. Anyway, bravo - well done!

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Scott, I appreciate your feedback and words of support ... ! Happy listening !

Damn Straight !!!

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Now !

@RobotronR6

2 жыл бұрын

Fuckin right!

You have just described what STEREO is!

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Isnt it wonderful ??

@user-cv5db4yh6q

2 жыл бұрын

@@OCDHIFiGuy It is!!!!!

I only found this, we are the people. Ireland is rising. Thank you very informative.

Perfect Mike, thank you - - an additional comment to your description of "bass" - - my take on your explanation about the bass is excellent, but a person with less experience may not realize that bass "can" be directional in the sense of, again, source dependent, where the bass track is panned within the mix, it's not always dead nuts center, even more so with early recordings where they didn't have "panning", so early stereo stuff can be simple 3 channel - center, left, right - - and if the bass player was put in a left or right channel, that should be obvious in the imagining. So, although the sound may be emanating throughout the room as you described, "where" the bass player actually is in the image put together by the engineer/producer should be obvious in a reasonable system IMHO.

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, thats true and a good distinction, what I did not clarify was that the omnipresent non locatable bass was the subsonic stuff below bass guitar as "bass fill" , then as we go up there are the bass guitar notes for sure either left or right and the bass fill I speak of is not center either. Its right center and left all together. . Thanks for mentioning that so I could clarify ..

Lol, binaca and polo...that brings back memories

Going to RMAF 2021? Would love to hear your impressions of where the good rooms are.

@peterw2714

2 жыл бұрын

Too bad that got canceled, that sucks. I was going to try to make it there for my first time.

How do you know when its the recording or the system to blame does poor recordings still sound poor on a great system

Awesome video Mikey! I could relate to every single point. That feeling you get when your brain believes you are in that crowd is like a drug. It gives you goosebumps. When you hear that instrument sound like it’s there in the room with you it starts the emotions going. Sibilance is my biggest annoyance. I’ve managed to get my rig to a point now where most of my music collection is sibilance free but on the few recordings that I still hear it (Marvin Gaye What’s going on for example) I can’t help wondering…. does this sound free of sibilance on a better system? Or is it just in the recording and my system is faithfully reproducing it?

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

If you want to let me know song and album and album version, I can listen and let you know . most of the time you can eliminate sibilance. The first offending enemy is metal tweeters , I dont mean ribbons, I mean round dome tweeters. very very few speaker manufacturers get them right .

@r2dno1

2 жыл бұрын

@@OCDHIFiGuy Thanks Mikey that's very kind of you. Its the 2011 remastered version of the album What's Going on, Track: What's going on (standard version). Another one was Fink, Wheels Turn Beneath My Feet, Perfect Darkness which my rig seems to have under control now after many upgrades. The recording seems to make his voice sound very edgy. Greatly appreciate you taking the time Mikey. Thanks again.

@jonathandavis9507

Жыл бұрын

@@r2dno1 what were your fixes to get it out of your system?

@r2dno1

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathandavis9507 I upgraded my speaker cables from Chord SurelineX to Signature XL. This reduced the jagged edge to the vocals to a cleaner less sharp sound. It is still a sharp sounding vocal on this track but not longer uncomfortable to listen to. Also my other recordings now sound more organic and less digital.

@jonathandavis9507

Жыл бұрын

@@r2dno1 thanks! I’ll look into that.

Share 5 songs/ pieces to evaluate our systems Mikey!!!

How about if it sounds life like or real. Are does that disqualifies it as a great system?

Oh, I forgot, I listen to classical, jazz and blues. The Proacs are very defined but lack some bass so I’m adding a Rel.

Could you give some examples of great sounding rooms in past shows in your opinion

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The last 2 years at AXPONA Jeff Rowland and Joseph Audio 2 shows ago and Jeff Rowland /ViVid audio the most recent show. Oh yeah, the 2 Axponas before those at the old location Vapor Audio and Lamm and year before Vapor Audio and Jeff Rowland, It was that year where I said to myself if I get a solid state amp its gonna be a JR for sure. 3 years ago Munich the Kharma room stood out . same with the Voxativ room. most recent Florida show the AGD room was excellent. several years back when we still did the Venetian at CES, the MBL Room stood out as being amazing... And this is not always true, Ive heard bad MBL rooms as well...

The only way I could get my bass right in my room was to buy a MiniDsp 2x4hd. What a world of difference it made. Now my two 15’s and two 12’s play nicely together

Attack, evolution, finish for wine; I learned something there. Attack, decay, sustain, release for music. And yeah, all notes are complex of tones/overtones, cymbals are especially difficult to reproduce.

Love to meet you sometime. What part of the US are you in?

My new speaker needs burn-in before I can start listening. It only has 12 hours on it and is very ... bright sounding with high sibilance. These days we rarely get a chance to listen before we buy. Just hope it would settle in. New subscriber...thanks.

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jim, thanks for joining . What you describe is the main problem with audio systems everywhere, Im happy to offer some advice if you want to just call me at 404 seven six four 62 three 3

My system is so good l can tell if the drummer is using drum sticks made from ash or hickory wood........just kidding! Mikey great description on what to listen for!! Great job, what do you think of sub in the swarm (using 4 subs) configuration? I have something similar as l have two subs, plus my main speakers have built in powered subs It really seems towork for me as l have limited space for sub woofer placement in my listening room

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Anything is possible Jackie Poo as long as the subs are not making cancellations. This happens sometimes when 2 drivers reproduce the same frequency.

Great video and descriptives Mike. Your passion for equipment, sound perfection and music experience is infectious, fun and a learnin' sperience.......A single sub dillema for someone who can't do 2 or more subs in DBA...I try to keep my sub volume low to avoid boomy but if full frequency floor speakers go down to 35Hz and sub goes down to 25Hz, where should the crossover point be set.

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Beeb, :you said Learnin Sperience why do I have the feeling we would crack each other up big time ? Shiiii. OK, so the issue in your question is I dont have enough info. I would want to know the crossover points and the slopes where they sit now. and what slope is the dial for adjustment . we also want a way to high pass the main speakers when Bi-amping with a plate amp that has adjustable crossover . The idea is you do NOT want the main speakers and sub making the same frequency, so based on that alone you would set your sub at 35 with a 4th order low pass filter. if you could high pass the mains then you could try a higher number since you would not be overlapping too badly

I'm glad, I didn't blame my speakers for being bright. Instead, I've switched my Nordost knockoffs are made of silver plated copper for pure, simple silver cable. I'm sure Mike will know the speaker cable that will work.

@OCDHIFiGuy

Жыл бұрын

Probably. I have been making cables 25 years ;-)

With all due respect sir, and of course I mean you no offense, what people think is good sound is entirely personal and subjective, it's their preference. I know my mom likes the sound coming out of the TV more than my full-range audio system. She thinks my subwoofer is just noise, and I do know how to set it up right to integrate the sound with the main speakers. I imagine a lot of people like the sound they get out of a boombox, or their bass-thumping car, horrible as we might think it to be. Secondly, nothing exists in a vacuum and it's all relative, that is to say, we can only know one thing, one system from another when we hear them and compare them, and whether a person knows why and can articulate it or not, they can probably tell which system they like more. That's just a way of saying, a person knows good sound when they hear it, relative to another system, they may not know how to explain it or say why, but they know it when they hear it. But most importantly, and again, I mean you no offense, honestly, but I think most people simply will not be able to understand what you are saying, they simply cannot hear what you are describing without a great deal of experience with active listening and practice. Although it's clearly a bit exaggerated in analogy here, it's kind of like telling a blind person how to see, or rather, teaching a deaf person how to hear properly. Case in point, I tried to teach someone about soundstage and imaging, in my opinion, two of the most important and defining characteristics of high-end audio, and really, two that should be the most obvious which immediately stand out. I mean, lower-end stuff simply doesn't do it well or at all, and a setup that images well should be awe-inspiring to someone who hasn't heard it before. And although I probably could have explained it better, the person simply could not hear what I was trying to tell her about hearing the instruments sounding like they're in a certain location, pointing out the separation(as well as the clarity of the sound), they couldn't understand the idea of a "soundstage," the 3D/holographic quality of the sound emanating from the speakers, how it not only projects forward from the speakers, but also expands outward and back as well, has a depth to it. They could not sense the almost tangible presence of the sound, particularly of vocals, how it almost feels like there's someone in the room. I mean, compared to lesser setups, this should be obvious, especially to someone who hasn't experienced it before. I know for me, the first time I heard good imaging, I was completely blown away by what could be achieved by good speakers and setup, it's just a completely different experience from listening to poor speakers/lesser audio systems. Simply put, if they cannot hear such a thing as that, they're simply not going to get things like frequency response and roll-off, flat curves, balanced tonality, stuff like that. I'm not saying people cannot learn, but it is difficult to teach, and speaking frankly, a lot of people just don't care.

Hi Mike if you would like to help us make a video explaining what your talking about describing the sound to a list of songs. Name the song and artist and describe what we should be hearing ,describe the layering physically on camera stand where the instrument are and the vocalist is standing ,that way we can listen to the song on our rigs and determine if we have our systems set up correctly. Just an idea from a crazy Canadian fan!!!

@OCDHIFiGuy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Allen... There are actually CD's to determine proper setup... But I get your drift and can do something in the future...

I love Steve Guttenberg and now i found Mikey. But right off the bat im in the dog box, i dont have a dac, this from one who just inherited dads thorens🎉which way to go- right or left😅

@OCDHIFiGuy

Жыл бұрын

Call me for free consult... ;-)

This is probably the "BIBLE" on how to listen to music. Thanks... !

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching !

Nicely communicated! Music is so much more than sound. And I concur…get out and experience live music or you have no true reference for dialing in your rig. Good explanations: Except the eyes closed fart. Not sure you captured the essence in full. Lol.

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

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Thank you for sharing this.

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for listening 777!

It might be easier to explain how Dynamic Contrast exists between the different Musical Instruments as each is played. Each Instrument has a natural Frequency Range that has a distinct tonality in relation to other instruments & vocals being played that may have a more dominant tonality......... (That wasn't easier; Was it?)

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Not really, but its a very good point. Ill try and explain in a vid...

I think the cymbal reproduction is the hardest instrument to capture in a recording. There is a low frequency component that is lost in playback.

@MrBonger88

2 жыл бұрын

I find that’s where most class d amps that I’ve auditioned seem to fall short compared to class a or a/b. At least in my system.

@takeiteasy6154

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely agree with you, when I hear it in real life the cymbal has a mid low frequency as well as most of the very high sparkle sound which I don't hear in recordings. Why is this?

Long video. I started writing a comment early on that we would be better served listening to actual instruments rather than you trying to explain it but waited and sure enough at about 13:25 into it….bamm, you suggested it. A couple things, I don’t agree with you on the low bass slight concussive feel you get generally. It really depends on the instrument..pipe organ, no..drums, yes..double bass, yes, etc. A tough subject to tackle for sure. That irritating frequency that rings my ears is probably a little lower…closer to an ambulance siren. I feel you on your final topic. It’s cray cray. What piece of gear is most responsible for presenting the realism? DAC, Streamer, amp, preamp, speaker, etc? Lastly, I think we make changes that don’t necessarily make the sound better, just different, but because it’s noticeable we interpret as better. Okay, I’m done…good talk

I wonder what speakers he’d recommend. I’m into Proacs right now.

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

You can just ask me , I do read the comments... tell me the amps, the way you like to listen, do you have a dedicated room ?

@mydogskips2

2 жыл бұрын

@@OCDHIFiGuy What speakers do you recommend? jk ; ) Seriously though, I am looking for new speakers to replace the B&W DM601 S2 bookshelves I've had for the last 15 or so years, they're 6.5-inch kevlar woofers and 1-inch aluminum tweeter, speakers which I do like, though they are nowhere near as good as the Series 3s I was wanting to buy. I bought the S2s used thinking they would be close, but they're really not. Hopefully, you're familiar with these speakers, or at least the B&W signature sound, if there is such a thing. For what it's worth, I did hear/audition B&W 805s (bookshelves) in person before my local hi-fi shop closed up many years ago(before I bought my 601s) and I have to say, I absolutely hated them. It's hard to explain, but I used Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries to audition, I wanted a complex piece of music to test various aspects of the speakers, and I swear, it separated the music in a bad way like I have never heard any speaker do, to me, it really felt/sounded like there were five different speakers playing, and not in harmony/synchronization with each other, it wasn't coherent at all. I honestly believed the DM601 S3s sounded better, for me, they are probably the best speakers I have ever heard in person, but I cannot say that I have heard all that much high-end gear, there aren't a lot of hi-fi shops where I live. Personally, as a very thoughtful, analytical, and discerning/critical listener(I actually take great pleasure in critiquing music as I listen, I like to listen with the score in hand in fact and wanted to be a conductor at one time), I prefer a more detailed and revealing speaker, leaning forward and a bit on the bright side, but not too much, I do like a little warmth and definitely body, meaning a more balanced sound, not U/V-shape, good mid-range. My problem with the B&Ws is they are just a bit thin sounding, a bit etched on the top end, and at 70hz, obviously, not enough bass extension, but I did run a sub. I should let you know that I prefer a bookshelf/standmount speaker, personally, I have never heard a floorstanding speaker which I've liked, I've always thought they sounded a bit boomy/bloated in the mid-bass and not clear enough on the top end. Anyway, I have a complicated situation actually, I'm torn between upgrading and downsizing. I mean, I can't decide whether I want to upgrade my system or downsize, it depends on the day. I suppose, on the right day, my max budget for upgrading would be about $800 on speakers, maybe $1,000, but I'd like to hear some recommendations in the $5 - $600 range too. I live alone in an apartment, have my stereo 2.1 system set up in my medium-sized living room and mostly listen at moderate volumes. I like classical music, like both very large and small scale pieces(I'm a failed musician, was never good enough to make a career of it), but lately have gotten more into popular music too, mostly 80s and 90s stuff I remember hearing on the radio growing up, I am an older millennial born in the early 80s. I used to use a Classe preamp connect to fully-balanced Monarchy Audio monoblocs until one caught one fire, and I downgraded many years ago and now just use an entry-level Marantz CD player and integrated stereo amp. My sub broke a few years ago, but I was fortunate enough to get another last year, the one I wanted, a 10-inch Klipsch which is decent finally went on sale for $100 less than the usual price, but it poses a problem now because I don't know how to connect it to my amp, it only has RCA inputs where my amp only does speaker level out. I've run the sub off a cheap desktop 2.1 amp, but I'm looking for another proper "audiophile" amp. After hearing good things about Emotiva(from the Cheap Audio man and others) I'm seriously considering their BasX TA-100 integrated along with one of their flex subs. The question which I haven't been able to answer over the years is which speakers to get to replace my B&Ws. So if you don't mind my asking, here you go, which speakers do you recommend based on what I've said? P.S. I also just bought a very cheap, but what I think is also a very good DAC, it's motivated me to revisit some music and allowed me to hear previously unknown details to my great astonishment and joy; I never thought a simple DAC could make such an audible improvement in sound quality, it really has amazed me.

@MercedesGuy1954

2 жыл бұрын

Proac Reponse Three's are Speakers to die for. I actually like them more than the fours. They work better in smaller rooms. Way too many people Over Speaker a room.

Listening to ECM recordings can help the learning to listen experience. Or maybe better old Blue Note recordings...

@derreckgilmore9422

Жыл бұрын

I used to think ECM was the benchmark...I've since discovered there are FAR BETTER recordings out there.

Binaca and Polo - We must be the same age but you have more grey hair and a better rig…hahah! Well said on the politics

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chuck,,,, yeah those were the days ..lol

The only way is visit as much acoustical concerts as possible. But even then one must be able to remember how instruments can sound. Not so many people are able to do this. Then, do you wanna hear the music like you are sitting in row 1 or 30. This is so difficult.

It's all subjective...depending on whatever yer reference is ...I believe this to be a varying commodity based on yer consciousness in that moment...system is successful when recreating/creating a believeable/interesting sound space...we all listen for different things...reference is key here...a friend of mine taught me what to listen using acoustic instruments(acoustic guitar,brass instruments,percussion,etc recordings..transient rise n fall/decay ...system will only be as great as its weakest link...everything is a series of intelligent compromises when it comes to audio equipment...

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Id venture to say its part subjective.. I can put a rig together that I dont think a single person would say sounds bad. Maybe they like something tuned this way or that but the big strokes are pretty unanimously good or shitty

@davidbentley145

2 жыл бұрын

@@OCDHIFiGuy depends if you listen to something with the same bias everytime...Haven't you listened non critically to a pocket radio when an interesting piece of music comes on that causes you to whistle/listen along to???

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidbentley145 I get your point, but no matter how much I'm connecting with the music on the pocket radio, it is never going to sound as good as the big rig. Bias can't overcome such a huge difference. I do however understand the point you make. V

@davidbentley145

2 жыл бұрын

@@OCDHIFiGuy Like I said...ones reference doesn't remain the same...having studied meditation by utilizing mindfulness I have come to realize that one does not have the same states of consciousness all the time...my example : sitting passively watching TV (light comedies.etc:)One must admit that they do not bring their full attention to watching or listening to audio...it has to do with free will...just sayin

@davidbentley145

2 жыл бұрын

@@OCDHIFiGuy I know when I turn my focus to the inadequacies of that radio...then I am choosing to focus on the warts...sometimes I forget about the radio and enjoy the tunes,or maybe it will remind me of the past,or something else...don't you?Maybe the person listening to the radio had never been to a live performance,maybe that person isn't interested in quality,etc:..there are times ,for certain pieces of music that one needs the right system to satisfy the expectation...I dearly loved having the 18 inch bass drivers to reproduce the low note organ music I liked to hear...I know what yer tryin to convey Michael...Ty brother...

Thanks for your videos I espeially like the way you cut the bullshit and tell it like it is.

If it sounds good to you then it’s good batta bing batta boom

Ya tidal lol nice video

Paisano Mikey

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Aaayyyyyyyy!

Detailed explanation of how mid bass should sound but completely dependent on the quality of the recordings. Great classic rock recordings of the seventies rarely have such subtleties. And those recordings which have it are completely antiseptic sterile recordings that are only played in hifi shows.

@OCDHIFiGuy

Жыл бұрын

I dont agree... I can show you classic rock from the 70s with killer midbass.. problem is most speakers have a scoop out in their response.. Its easier to sell speakers with crispy highs and pumped up bass..

Hey uncle Mike, where's aunty? LOL

Bass frequencies are produced by bass instruments; the position & directionality of both should be clearly discernable, not smeared ambiguously throughout the room.

@OCDHIFiGuy

Жыл бұрын

Ka BAM !

It's difficult to define 'Real' in an Audioverse of infinite variables.

27:40 - word.

I'm a guitarist considered master class and when time permits I will come on KZread and see the snake oil versus truth in audio equipment. I started in the business back in the late 70's so I know a lot on studio processes ect. So sound is my living and you come on call people Assholes and fucking bastards man you got some nerve. I had subscribed to your channel because at first glance I thought hey maybe you know something and I am right you know how to be obnoxious and insulting . No need to respond I'm not listening any more !

“Yous” is so Philly

@OCDHIFiGuy

Жыл бұрын

Yous Guys ?

Very cool explanation of good sound from an emotional perspective, but where is the science. There very much is a science but also art to good sound and while I have just recently discovered your videos I haven’t seen you tackle the tools necessary to create good sound. Calling frequency response first grade lessons is slightly disheartening to hear. Frequency response and room interaction while basic is essential to good sound in my opinion. If your speakers can’t properly reproduce across the spectrum your dead in the water from the start. You just briefly touched on room interaction at the end of the video and your room is just as important as some insanely overpriced speakers for truly great sound. I did appreciate your comment on taking your mind out of the equation and just listening. Your mind is a sneaky mofo and will automatically fill in missing information to trick you into thinking you are hearing a complete source. Hence the reason you walked into a room and thought it sounded good and when the tools came out you saw that it was wrong. I come from the live sound world and one of the first things I was taught was trust your ears but confirm with your tools. Always good times in the wonderfully subjective world of audio.

Remember BINACA⁉️ Take a 🔥and…. O M G LMFAO‼️‼️‼️‼️ But YES….CLOSE YOUR EYES…. and ℒ ℐ 𝒮 𝒯 ℰ 𝒩 ❤️ Indeed!! (And you are SO FREAKIN RIGHT ON ON YOUR POLITICS TOO‼️) And 🇺🇸𝐖𝐄 𝐖𝐈𝐋𝐋 𝐠𝐞𝐭 𝐢𝐭 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤! Amen

cymbals...yes!...cymbals should have 'shimmer"...good bass reproduction needs to be felt in the low bass...

@OCDHIFiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

Why doesn't anyone ever do this with sound examples. Audiophiles talk and talk about how things sound, or they play a song and describe what they heard in words. How about give specific examples of everything you discuss so that people can "hear" rather than try to compare your words to what they hear?

@samray3461

2 жыл бұрын

Videos like what you describe are super tedious to make. The only videos I've seen like this are from HiViNyws. It is exhaustive and he breaks down what he's hearing into component parts. Great stuff, highly recommended

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