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6 жыл бұрын

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3 жыл бұрын

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3 жыл бұрын

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3 жыл бұрын

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3 жыл бұрын

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The people suggesting a Front mount IC, probably have never modded a Subaru. Unless you're going with a bigger turbo, don't do FMIC. It will introduce a fair amount of lag. The more ideal setup would be an upgraded (or STI) top mount intercooler.

@LuRyLaMa

6 жыл бұрын

+1

@UMAD666

5 жыл бұрын

If going over 400HP definitely u need a FMIC

@esko23q

5 жыл бұрын

500HP-600HPyou will need fmic

@esko23q

5 жыл бұрын

@@UMAD666 400HP i have a friend running a PW top mount handles it fine. 500-600HP and up fmic is needed.. 400HP not so

@that_blobeye_sti

2 жыл бұрын

@@esko23q yea I run 400 on my top mount lmao

Mickey I'm a plumber and when I see mechanics cutting hose, I always think; they would love a "pex cutter" for nice clean cuts. I don't know if you have ever tried one but they are cheap and you can pick one up at any plumbing supplier or most likely a decent hardware store. They are incredible sharp and support the hose or pipe for very straight cuts. I'd recommend the Milwaukee tools' cutter if you want to go high end. It's important to twist the tool as you cut but they would beat a pair of scissors all day.

Just now seeing this and plan to install on my blobeye. Appreciating the well made tutorial 4 years later!

@Teo5k

Жыл бұрын

lol i’m installing it on my hawkeye rn

I may not have a build in progress but throtl has become one of my favorite automotive KZread channels since you guys started the channel. I love the concept and bringing people together through the automotive aspect is one hell of a great thing.

I wouldn't go for a FMIC, but I would upgrade to the STi top mount one. Better performance (it's a bit larger, so it flows more air), and retains the stock location. FMIC introduces too much turbo lag to justify getting one.

@fittrailslayer

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@RedditReaper

6 жыл бұрын

ETS fmic!

@rylor3487

5 жыл бұрын

is the 04 05 sti hood scoop air splitter the same size as the wrx splitter?

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@throtl

6 жыл бұрын

Ahhh and our most unique drop yet...August 17th ;) Get ready...

I am really enjoying these wrx vids and Mickeys vids

Glad to see ya Mickey, as been missing you on TJ Hunt channel; so, glad your at least on Throtl with Evan & crew😊. Hang in there & keep head up when feeling down, things get better. Also love learning new things from you about diff after market performance parts(never used GrimmSpeed Brand) , as YOU make it interesting & fun; not boring & dull. THANKS‼️ Cheers, A #mickeyandrade

Going FMIC might get you some hot boi points but that's about it. Yes, it might look better to some BUT going FMIC is going to increase turbo lag with that tiny TD04 turbo and the install of one is definitely an all day or multi-day install (lots of cutting). If you go FMIC, you should at least get an STi VF39 from that generation. If you want a better intercooler, hit up your boys at Grimmspeed. They make a really nice TMIC that's good to ~500hp. It's a much simpler install, pretty much a straight swap. I run it in on my '04 STi with a larger 20g and have no complaints. It would also be the perfect time to change the Y-Pipe to a silicone one because after 14 years I wouldn't be surprised if the factory plastic one had seen better days.

If you want to go front mount, upgrade the turbo. The old stock tdo4 won't be able to fully utilize it. If you stay stock turbo then go with a better top mount like and STi version or a Grimmspeed TMIC. The turbo will work well and they are good for power in the future. I would also say if the plan was to track the cat or go big power right away then front mount and slightly better turbo like a 20g hands down. It would be a happy medium. That's just my 2 cents! Love the vids guys! Keep this up! The positive vibes, the installs and overall informational content you provide is good for every beginner or advanced car nut!👍🏾👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾😎😎

From all the other videos ive seen, the middle port is the clean return to intake

I do like the video's with Mickey, 1 he tends to know or have a pretty good idea of how things work, 2, is very good at putting techno babble in to english, 3, he shows what he is doing clearly and also talks us through each step while he does it so we see how why and any changes to to say the rout of a pipe and why, if it is looks wise he says so if it is because it will screw up he says so and why it will screw up. Mickey Spec Mickey Teach. Mickey the question I have is this unit that you need a wheel brace or a 19mm socket to undo is $200 a catch can is around $26 - $35 can you say hand on heart that it is worth the extra spend.

I love how Mickey is so descriptive in the videos, will definitely purchase this item for my subie

I’ll never not love Mickey’s dad filming and exhales!

Fmic's are cool but Grimspeed makes a nasty top mount!

Throtl and TJ's channel is the only car channel I'll sub to and watch great

@grandpoobah3475

6 жыл бұрын

Moutain Man coins and antiques I watch them I also like mighty car mods and boostedboiz. Roadkill was one of my favourites but it got canned

You guys are the best man. I love this channel so much. You guys are such a huge inspiration to me and motivate me to want to start vlogging aswell. Bin saying I’m gunna join vip again and this time I will thanks. And that wrx is looking so hot rn. Almost as hot as mickeys FD. Love them hot boy wheels on it

You are going to need hose clamps on all 3 of those hoses directly off of the AOS itself. Ask me how I know haha. You said they aren't pressurized, but I had a boost leak while getting tuned coming directly off of the AOS itself. We did a smoke/boost leak test and it was leaking from the zip tie. You need hose clamps at least on those 3. Lastly, if you want to change the stock intercooler then just upgrade to an sti one, the oem sti top mounts are good to 450 awhp.

@ChathamGang

5 жыл бұрын

William Bittner they top mounts from an STi are basically useless after 370-380whp.

The WRXs small turbo doesn't push enough boost to warrant a front mount. Stock turbos with FMIC usually lead to huuuuge amounts of lag.

Agree with the comments below. In the UK you can very safely push the 2.0l engine to 350-400 on the top mount. Really only do FMIC become beneficial is for big power gains. My Litchfield JDM ran 360bhp/350ftlbs on the top mount. A friend of mine has over 400+ on a top mount but his is a 2.5l forged engine

Tech you could get a fix it ticket for a FMIC, but cops are WAY more likely to bust you for exhaust, or a huge intake if you pop the hood for them. I’ve never heard of anyone getting a ticket for a FMIC. Anyway, with the heat you guys are having, def go front mount, your B.A.Ts will be way lower the just upgrading a top mount. Loving the channel bruv, keep up the great work!

The way you put the videos Mickey is really great and the music to. Thanks

Well I love the look of the front mount on a Subie and delete the hood scoop...I had one on my WRX in San Diego, CA!

I had buddies swapped to front mount and didn’t have issues getting their inspection passed. I had a bigger top mount and called it a day in my subie.

ayy mickeyy lilttle tip for hose cutting a pvc pipe cutter works really awesome on cuttiing those hoses at mickey spec..

Honestly I love these vids, but I think that IAG makes a better AOS. Still a great part for a subie. (I own an 05 sti)

@Georgeee123

6 жыл бұрын

IAG is the only way to go. Grimmspeed failed with this specific aos design. I’ve had it and almost cost me my engine.

@thatsjimmii

6 жыл бұрын

Street Legion what’s your thoughts on IAG vs Crawford?

@Georgeee123

6 жыл бұрын

ThatsJimmii to be quite honest IAG put a lot of time and effort into perfecting this aos and it really shows. There is no longer any oil trapped in my intercooler with all that blow by. So here’s how I see it based on what I have and people I know personally, who are running certain Aos’s. IAG top of the list because again design is flawless, Crawford second because they weren’t even suppose to have these for resale and was only made to take care of a problem on the track. So some thought was put into it, and my friend has one and has nothing but good things I say. Perrin third because it’s affordable and designed works alright lol. But grimmspeed NEVER.

@Georgeee123

6 жыл бұрын

And let’s not forget killer b products. Heard their AOS is top of the line, although I haven’t owned one im sure it’ll live up to the hype. Plus that thing looks sick lol.

@thatsjimmii

6 жыл бұрын

Street Legion Hey, by any chance do you have an Instagram with your car, it sounds like your car has gone through a lot and that’s pretty cool. Mine is literally thatsjimmii on there

Def go with a fmic. Perrin makes nice fmic kits. They have the stealth series in black. Looks absolutely sick. Some of the ppl commenting saying fmic result in lag and what not. Yes to a certain degree it’s true but it’s all down to the tune. Plus with a fmic it leave so much more room to play with if u decide to go big in the future. If not fmic then definitely an upgraded tmic. Even a stock sti ones are not really an upgrade. Something like a processwest or turboxs tmic are one of the thickest ones on the market.

I dont know what my first mod should be. This car is turning out to be amazing, also I think you should leave it to the person who wins the car to decide whether or not they should front mount

I'd rather go with a bigger top mount like a Process West or ETS. Bolt-on and makes the bay look a lot better too. Another great vid guys! Loving the content!

Get the Grimspeed TMIC and the upgraded throttle body to TMIC hose or the Inlet Hose! Look great and support greater power for the future!

For the love of god, do not get this for your subaru and get a proper AoS like IAG or even a catch can

@jhonatanfreite7450

6 жыл бұрын

Dylan Miller had it on my 05 for years. Didn’t cause any issues or CEL. Actually reliable

@dylanmiller2583

6 жыл бұрын

you must not track your car then

@fl4tsubie526

6 жыл бұрын

I cringed when i saw them open the box.....that AOS is terrible

@therealdaveyfx

6 жыл бұрын

Any reputable shop would stay away from this AOS. IAG street series on mine.

@caseyfellers2316

6 жыл бұрын

Why is this one bad compared to others?

Nice work Mickey

STi top mount for a good budget intercooler or Process West top mount if you want to go full send. A FMIC is just going to get you more turbo lag with no real benefits on a stock turbo.

Same thing as an oil catch can basically but instead of emptying a catch can it just empties into the oil filler. Nice little rig.

You connected the first hose you cut for the AOS wrong, it was supposed to connect to the center of the AOS not the left side

@justincash1027

5 жыл бұрын

I was going to mention as i just installed one on my own car, glad this was in the comments -- maybe we can get it bumped for anyone watching for an "install" video

If you dont go with a bigger turbo id suggest the fmic but with smaller charger pipes then what you might want so the added length in charge piping doesnt cause more lag

Love this channel... All about cars and it awesome... For me just upgrade TMIC and no need FMIC.. since turbo is stock, FMIC will only create lag not performance...

I can’t wait till I can actually start working on my bug eye that engine bay looks so nice compared to mine

Best thing to do is get a bigger top mount like a grimmspeed, process west, or even just an STI top mount for the car it will run better and not have as much lag as a front mount with the stock turbo.

Love the videos guys keep up the great work !🚗

Throtl heart could save my week♥ :c

so it's basically a catch can that puts the oil back in the pan autonomously?

Front mount prevent issues with heat soak in warmer climates where temps reach high 90s or more

I think you installed the hoses wrong. The one in the middle goes to the hose connected to the intake manifold. The other two on sides go to the hoses that come from the valve covers. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.

Same I’m not really a fan of top mounted intercoolers because it’s hard to upgrade also I think the new Toyota sequoia and tundra have that too now

Get the STI Top mount IC and also the STI hood scoop you wont get more turbo lag but wil get cooler inlet temps

Front mount is a must!

Yes I think a front mout is the best and it also looks better

Nice Mickey. 1 handed beast👌

I think because a front mounted intercooler is a matter of opinion rather than function it’s something that should be left for the winner to decide whether or not they want it because I know if somebody who is really big into the Subaru scene or is a big ej fanatic wins they’re probably just gonna switch it back to the top mount intercooler

Glad he said he was gonna throw some zip ties on the connection for air to oil separator at the end of video I was getting a little worried lol

No front mount, just upgrade the top mount.

Dude had to have been buzzin when he filmed this

I thought it was a Cobb acceport 😂😂😂 love your videos

Front mount intercooler is the way to go !

Go front mount prevent heat soak make that lil wrx happy

They make decent top mount upgrades as well.

Front mount for the win!

I agree it needs a front intercooler

I've had 2 grimmspeed AOS go out on me, I would honestly stay away from those. Id recommend the IAG AOS

Do a Grimmspeed top mount ic. Better than a front mount, and looks efficient.

Front mount intercooler a must

yes that needs a front mounted intercooler. i agree 150%. Mspec

Go front mount always looks so much better on anything no matter what

@zakwrx701

6 жыл бұрын

X0xKARNAGEx0X not on a stock turbo it will create sooooooooo much lag

Yes front mount intercooler

Yes to front mount inter cooler. Also debadge the trunk

Mickey do the front mount intercooler and whoever wins it give them the stock air cooler so want to comes time to do smog it’s a easy enough switch over 👍😊

If it stays on the West cost go big front mount, if it goes up north where there’s snow keep the top mount. But you guys wouldn’t know who wins it, unless I get lucky, OOOOHHHHH YEAAHHHHHH!!!🤩. If that’s the case stay front mount 👍

Be aware also if you change the intercooler to a bigger core or front mount or run an atmospheric blow off valve it will require tuning.

Mickey is a G man fr

Frontmount intercooler to clean up that engine bay just a little.

Gotta say: Those are some workin' man's hands!

Stay top mount, just go to a bigger core. On Subaru's especially a WRX. Switching to a front mount intercooler without upgrading the turbo will cause significant turbo lag.

yes put a fmic plz. and make a video on it.

Process west make a beautiful top mount but vertical inter cooler

really looking forward to the end product wrx.

Bigger turbo then front mount. As front mount on a tiny tdo4 is overkill I got mine when i had my tdo5 hybrid fitted by oma performance tuning

Yes front mount

Oversized top mount to stay carb compliant. Front mount won’t pass visual unfortunately

I do agree with the top mount inter cooler....it's an eye sore. Could you maybe get a diff top mount one, if not able to do front mount? Maybe that's a better idea, especially if it keeps it within carb compliance etc.....mJust a thought! Cheers, A👍🏻👍🏻😄

Front mount for sure

Please do a front mount

Yeah do a big front mount

Go with the mishimoto front mount

WRX are very touchy about mods. A lot of mods require tunes. A FMIC would need a tune for sure.

Can you do an update on this piece? I'd appreciate your input on this air/oil separator unit, I'm considering this but I have heard horror stories of gunk from condensation and stuff.. thank you sir

@Georgeee123

6 жыл бұрын

brian cholick don’t do it. IAG is the way to go if you’re in the market for one. And yea the horror stories are true my friend. I was in one lol.

@BC-tn5ss

6 жыл бұрын

Street Legion my man. Thanks for some assurance on my decision. I heard the IAG was the best.. my EJ20K loves that blow by 😎

@Ryj1987

6 жыл бұрын

I personally run the Perrin on my 04 STi but have heard good things about the IAG. There is a "street" and a "competition" version. I've heard the competition is the better choice.

@Georgeee123

6 жыл бұрын

DuhMayor perrin isn’t bad since it also uses a swirl pot design similar to the IAG design. The IAG street is what I personally have, comp version vents to atmosphere and is more geared towards high horsepower race applications.

@Georgeee123

6 жыл бұрын

Oh and killer b let’s not forget those guys. They make awesome stuff as well. Heard their AOS is top notch, although I haven’t owned one personally. I’m sure it’ll live up to the hype.

The grimmspeed AOS isnt capable of passing CA emissions, so you might as well Full Send It - mode. For a street car, having a front mount on the wrx isnt going to make that much of a difference unless you live somewhere hot or plan on sitting in traffic a lot. If someone wants a front mount for making big power, theyre going to have to do major motor upgrades looong before the need for a larger intercooler. The slightly larger STi top mount intercooler is a good OEM+ upgrade, and still passes CA smog. Will still require a tune of course.

Should definitely do a front mount!

Already put a bunch of STI stuff on .Throw the STI top mount on it and call it a day.

Bigger Top mount if the turbo is staying standard.

no one noticed that he routed the center port on the AOS to the crankcase vent and not the intake?! The center port, or “cleansed hose” goes to the intake

I think a front mount would be a great addition to the WRX!!!!!

Front mount! I have a 04 wrx same color and all have the motor out putting it in this wkend and im really dreading that intercooler its a bitch! Wish I could drop the motor in with it on but I can't

man, I just dont know about the Grimmspeed AOS, I mean look at the Perrin, IAG and CRAWFORD AOS comparred to this GRIMMSPEED. It just seems like its more of a gimmick than pure function!! I don’t know, just the feeling I get!! I mean it’s a hell of a lot easier to install the grimmspeed vs the other 3 but I just feel like it wouldn’t be all that effecient.

For sure a front mount intercooler...might get a little more lag with the factory turbo but temps will be fantastic and you'll free up some engine bay room

I don’t like the idea of draining the catch can vapour back into engine but I know nothing so it’s probably alright

Definitely put a front mount on it

Go with a big tmic and swap the turbo to a vf39 and the wrx will be good to go

Front mount inter cooler