Awesome Video! Caden is a very well-spoken young man, and a great addition to your team.

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

You guys are great. Thanks for the coaching!

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

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Another fabulous & informative video! Excellent footage & explaining of form to execute the shot, you then take us into how to handle & play that shot!! You 2 really do a great job! 😊

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

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Thank you for your helpful tips, as always! On my practice list! 😊

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

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Thanks guys, good, good stuff. Again.

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

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Thanks for the great video. My Monday drill group will be working on this!

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Yet another great video, thanks!

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

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Great. Thanks. Love the Errr!

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

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Great video with clear instructions. All I've got to do now is practice, practice, practice, so I can deal with all the lobbers I'm playing against.

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

You can do it!

Excellent instructions!🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

Awesome!

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

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Great idea to add big green cartoon arrows for proper technique and big red Xs for wrong technique!

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

Lol

The challenge I think is trying to make the 3rd shot drop when your opponents are returning your serve hard and long and you need to turn that into a soft drop into their kitchen. The example of you swinging softly to return for the drop was good for the technique (and I can see what you're doing very clearly :-). But I often find those returns are tricky to get just right and into their kitchen.

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

It takes a lot of practice and is definitely a lot tougher on very tough returns. This is why lots of pros will go to a drive-drop as an option on tougher returns.

I can do what I call a 3rd shot driving drop to the middle very well where the ball curves downward over the net and opponents can hardly get it or very much have to hit up on it. I find the key is the timing of the contact as you address in the video. The ball is just starting to descend and you have to have good positioning. Translating that to a soft drop is a different matter due to the loose grip. I like your advice of having a target for this shot. Now it's drill, drill, drill.

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

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great video. thanks

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Another great lesson. Thanks! Kaden does take a big backswing, but it works well for him.

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

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good instruction, thank you

@BrionesPickleball

5 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

great content!

@BrionesPickleball

3 ай бұрын

Thanks !!

After years of videos, Briones lessons, his my pickleball coach app...I still glean something new every time. Getting the ball out front, but aligned near or inside the hip was not new, but that it diminishes the reaching was. Also, you both showed some lifting with the legs and a shoulder turn but didn't discuss. Thanks!!

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

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Thank you for this Jordan and Caden! I've been working on topspin. Also, along the lines of loose grip how about an instructional video on how "loose" our bodies should feel when hitting the ball? Questions: Should our shoulders feel loose which provides an arm to swing freely? Do we use body weight to swing through the ball?

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

Not a ton of forward body momentum used here. Most important thing is to be brushing and swinging up on the ball. Yes, you do want to be as relaxed as you can in your shoulders, wrist, grip etc.

@nadzoll

6 ай бұрын

@@BrionesPickleballI mentioned this after I saw a video from Zane where he talked about having a loose body when hitting. This resonates with me from past instruction I had studying the piano in college - strike using body weight then relax into rebound.

Should we also use a "laid back wrist" position for flat/no spin forehand drops? I figure that way we can disguise to opponents whether we will hit a flat drop or a topspin drop

@BrionesPickleball

3 ай бұрын

Drops are so slow, I don’t think disguising is necessary. Technique is a bit different as well.

Paddles are rated for ability to generate spin. For instance Selkirk Vanguard Control is rated for 1800 RPM of spin and other models rated above 2000RPM. In your demo speed of paddle is low spin you create seems much lower the paddle capability. So what technique would fully realize paddle top spin capability.

@BrionesPickleball

3 ай бұрын

Are you asking how to create the most spin ?

Do you recommend,,, and how to hit a topspin backhand drop? TY. Your videos are GREAT!

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

Video coming soon!

Great video! One minor but important detail that I did not hear mentioned was the grip. I assume it's continental grip?

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

Sorry about that …. Yep. I’ll have to clarify in another video. Eastern

@douglasmurdoch7247

8 ай бұрын

Usually deeper shots, from baseline or transition, are in eastern. And then one rotates over to continental as you get to the kitchen line.

@markkay4767

8 ай бұрын

The grip seems to vary from Continental to Eastern for top spin. Not a big change.

@AnnMitt

8 ай бұрын

​@BrionesPickleball do you have a video on eastern grip that you can link in this posted video?

Great video! Jordan, what paddle are you playing with in this video? Looks like the Selkirk Halo 16mm?

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

Correct!

What grip are you using? Eastern or semi western? Can this be done with semi western?

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

Eastern. Yes it can, but it would be harder I believe.

Wonderful job as usual...and Kaden did great too! One question...WHY aim at the feet? It seems to me that you're inviting someone with a 3 ft+ reach to take it out of the air rather than force them to deal with the bounce which after all is the main advantage right? Why not treat it like a normal drop target...closer to the net or forcing movement (backhand side) to gain advantage? Do you guys use this off your backhand as well or just use standard or slice drops?

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

We’ll be coming out with a two handed drop video soon. For drops in general, most high level players aim at the feet. The NVZ line is a good target to go for when hitting your drops.

Are you advocating giving up on the flat 3rd shot drop in favor of mastering this topspin 3rd shot drop?

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

No, you need both, but at a higher level, topspin will be a necessity.

at 4.5 and above, you best have topspin incorporated into most of your shots, otherwise the game will come at you fast and furious. Topspin should enter your game mindset at 3.75!

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

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This looks like a table tennis topspin shot but not a violent swing. Waiting for that rubber instead of graphite.

@BrionesPickleball

3 ай бұрын

Lol

For generating top-spin, can you elaborate on the difference between hitting up on the ball and brushing the ball? For example, do you merely have to hit up on the ball, out front, and with an eastern grip to automatically generate top-spin or is there a specific brushing motion/mechanic needed?

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

We will do more on this. In general, “brushing” and hitting up on the ball go hand in hand. To create topspin, you have to hit up on the ball.

Love the latest few videos.. really helpful, and informative - keep up the great work guys! ps: I'd love to see a video on how to defend against bangers at a 3>4 level. The "bangers" in our club tend to dominate the games by constantly driving from the bassline.. super frustrating! I've seen a few higher level players who are able to return these drives, either volleying them back, or completely taking the power out of the shot and dropping them just over the net.. for love nor money, I just can't seem to master it! any tips would be awesome!

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

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Are you working On your topspin drops?

Why is it that these instructional videos never seem to show the featured shot from the BACKHAND side. They are always forehand shots.

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

Because everyone needs to develop a strong forehand first. Backhand video Coming soon.

what about if you want to do a fast/hard topspin hit? Isn't that beneficial? You started the video by saying it's a more aggressive hit, but these hits you make seems easy to return no?

@MikeC-qr9ot

8 күн бұрын

and what is a 3rd shot drop? that was mentioned a couple times.

@BrionesPickleball

6 күн бұрын

That is a different shot and is used effectively. It depends what you want to hit your opponent. In this video, we talk about drops.

@MichelleH45

4 күн бұрын

@@MikeC-qr9ot- a drop shot is a shot you use as the serving team to drop the ball into the kitchen so that you and your partner can get up to the kitchen line. It is called the third shot drop because it is literally the third shot of the game. First shot is the serve, the second shot is the return, then you have the third shot - which you can drive or you can drop (or lob, but not the best option in IMHO).

@MikeC-qr9ot

4 күн бұрын

Thanks for explaining the 3shot drop. I guess if you hit it past the kitchen, the other team can slam it down huh

@MichelleH45

3 күн бұрын

@@MikeC-qr9ot - you can always choose to do a drive instead of a drop but if you choose to do a drive, it had better be low or else the returning team (already at the net) can just crush it and you will never get up to the kitchen.

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@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

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I still stand by my comments. I've played enough Tennis, Badminton, Racketball, Pickleball, to know how and where the comparisons are and what does n doesn't work. Jorday is an AWESOME player and coach, however, i don't feel this is the best way to ""drop-shot" even if you are highly skilled.. If you'd like to see mine or how i teach them come on out to Sun Diego and let's have a look... :)

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

Lol

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

Or you can just watch Anna Leigh, Ben, CP, Tyson or any of the other pros all drop with topspin 😊

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

Trust me, 6 years ago I never taught topspin drops either.

Thanks for the video. My only complaint is that when you or others demonstrate you have someone barely hitting the ball to you which makes your 3rd shot drop look easy. I never have someone just barely lobbing the ball back to me. They are normally low and fast.

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

Lol. This is important for learning and building up the skill. You can watch us in other videos where we are hitting the ball aggressively and still hitting the same shots. If you can’t practice and hit the ball like this, you won’t be able to do it under pressure.

yes this is a special skill but its so low percentage with perfect timing and touch involved that i believe it should never be used..best to work on a normal 3rd shot drop

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

If you are below 3.5, yes, if above 3.5, you can easily get this drop to be consistent. All pros use topspin lol

@SDPBALLCOACH

8 ай бұрын

I agree, this is NEVER a good idea. Rafael Nadal and Carlos Alcarez are the best Drop Shot players in the world and they NEVER do this... Sorry Jordan but I agree with the other comment. Kev-

@BennyBedTime

8 ай бұрын

A top spin drop is a special skill? It’s pretty straightforward 😅

@Angler180DC

8 ай бұрын

​@SDPBALLCOACH this is very poor analogy. Why in the world would you put topspin on a tennis drop shot? So your opponent can hit a winner? That world make the ball bounce up. They do use this technique in doubles though to hit down at the net persons feet. It's not a hard shot. In fact, it can be easier to control the ball.

@BrionesPickleball

7 ай бұрын

We’re talking about topspin drops here everyone, which is used by 99% of 4.5+ players today. If you don’t learn it now, you will get left in the dust. 😊

I like how after Pickleball Playbook did theirs. Briones and Cincola copied it and uploaded videos with the exact same techniques right after.

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

Lol. I filmed this over a month ago. Releases don’t work that way. It’s a lot more work than you think.

@shipwreck8847

8 ай бұрын

@@BrionesPickleball Lol alright Briones. Timing seems very suspicious. Cincola is in on it too. Good video, I don't really care I'm just having fun.

@BrionesPickleball

8 ай бұрын

@@shipwreck8847 I also came out with 3rd shot drop videos over 5 years ago before all these other channels were born Hahahaaa

@shipwreck8847

8 ай бұрын

@@BrionesPickleball I know, you're the OG.

@shipwreck8847

8 ай бұрын

@@BrionesPickleball Jordan, are you ever coming out to CA again? If so, I would like to play you sometime.